[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the TM secrets...mantras, puja, etc.

2015-07-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
1.Don't violate the law. Members of Yahoo communities are not above the law, so 
don't post anything that violates the laws of your country, state, province, or 
city.  Don't try to trick people into sharing their personal information, post 
illegal images, or steal anything like copyright or trademark material. Don't 
threaten, harass, impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's 
privacy. Don't post content, share software or collect fees in violation of 
export or import laws. 
 

 
 Yabut; certainly this sensitive TM info that Edg is threatening to dump here 
on to FFL is all over the internet to be found; but the legal departments of 
both Yahoo! and the TM movement itself could proly have some things to say 
about Edg using a Yahoo group to divulge trademarked content. Edg as I recall 
him saying here is a TM teacher trained especially through the TM movement by 
MMY to teach TM? It sounds like a morass of legal trouble for Edg to move 
forward on such a threat to the group. 
 However, as a moderator of Yahoo-groups sworn to uphold the Yahoo-groups 
guidelines I await further consultation on this from Yahoo, the TM movement and 
our list owner. In the meantime publish the TM mantras and other trademarked 
things at your membership peril. Do notice that the folk-precedence set by our 
list owner over posting of such material to FFL is the removal of such content 
and possibly the removal of membership from FFL as needed to enforce this.  FFL 
does have its own standards too.  However, in the Yahoo-groups guidelines this 
kind of rates along there with, 'profanity' and other things. -Your obedient 
servant in service to the Yahoo-groups Guidelines,  JaiGuruYou! 
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote :

 The FFL archives are liberally sprinkled with links to minet.org, which 
contains all the TM secrets. Rick has not asked that stuff like that not be 
posted, and the Yahoo Holy Writ, which Doug has pledged to uphold until his 
last dying breath, certainly has no rules against it. So, go for it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote :
 
 It's a fair question -- an example question -- it's me doing science here.  I 
try out some words and see if that gets me banned.  Test and then measure the 
results!

If the answer is that I can post this kind of material, well, hey, isn't Doug 
much more liberal than I thought!   

 See?  
 

 I'm trying to get Doug to tell us his boundaries.  If he refuses to delineated 
his power, then we know that he's just making this shit up as he goes 
alongjust like I'm doing with this keyboard.

I refuse to be cinched up by the Emperor's New Leash.  IT'S NOT FUCKING THERE!

The TM program drives anyone insane.

BAMjust fucking words on a screen.  If some asshole takes my online opinion 
as truth, then he doesn't deserve the truth.

Fuck Maharishi up the ass with seven artichokes on a kebob.

BAM!.just fucking words.  I can do this all day, right?

You too, right?

IT'S NOT THE WORDS, it's the intent behind them that Doug is trying to throttle 
here.

If I mean the words, h boy, I'm in trouble then.  

But see?

Who can tell if I do or not?

Is Doug a mind reader?  Or is my creative writing off limits here?





 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 And exactly what purpose would that serve, other than allowing you to live up 
to your carefully cultivated image of the Big Bad Boy?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Just the kind of title that Doug would check out, right?

Am I allowed to publish the mantras and the meaning to the puja and checking 
notes and instructions how to do the puja and choose the mantra?












  




[FairfieldLife] Re: Somnophilia

2015-07-11 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Cosby can't hold a candle to England's Jimmy Savile. 
 

 That could be the next line of his defence!
 

 I'm amazed at how Savile, a psychopath and a necrophiliac, among other things, 
got away with it for so many years.  
 

 If you'd asked me before the whole hideous story came out I would swear that 
Savile was one of the good guys. Seriously. I had no doubt that he was as he 
claimed, a devoted charity worker who wanted nothing more than to help kids 
fulfill their dreams.
 

 He had a kids show called Jim'll fix it where we all used to write in with 
requests like I want to ride a horse at Ascot or score a goal at Wembley, I 
wanted to operate a Dalek in Dr Who I recall.
 

 But my letter was never chosen and Jim never fixed it for me. Turns out that 
my Mum, who was posting our letters to Jim every week, was throwing them away 
because she'd always thought he was a bad 'un and wouldn't have let us alone 
with him for a second.
 

 The plot thickened when my Dad revealed that he'd known him before he was 
famous as they were members of the same cycling club. He didn't trust him 
either. Bit of a sinister weirdo apparently.
 

 We kids couldn't tell, but many people did and Savilles laywers came down 
heavy on anyone who dared even mention it. And he was a good friend of the 
royal family.
 

 Unbelievable what he got away with really.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Bill Cosby.  What do you think?
 

 I think he's an asshole but I thought that long before these stories came out. 
Now I think he's a hideously creepy and dangerous asshole.
 

 It also sounds like someone trying to establish an excuse before a trial, some 
trumped up medical condition that will get him a few years less in the cooler.
 

 Is Bill Cosby a Predatory Somnophiliac? 
https://www.yahoo.com/health/is-bill-cosby-a-predatory-somnophiliac-123640068647.html

 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/health/is-bill-cosby-a-predatory-somnophiliac-123640068647.html
 
 Is Bill Cosby a Predatory Somnophiliac? 
https://www.yahoo.com/health/is-bill-cosby-a-predatory-somnophiliac-123640068647.html
 Somnophilia is a clinically diagnosable fetish. And a new motion filed by 
Cosbys first accuser uses this word as a possible reason to why he allegedly 
drugged and ...


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/health/is-bill-cosby-a-predatory-somnophiliac-123640068647.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Acropolis Now!

2015-07-11 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks, this posting is really sensitive to some issues and respectfully said. 
Though, there are a lot of folks around here who do in fact have [objective] 
experience of 'ritam' aka, the 'siddhis-like' in practice or formula otherwise 
by Patanjali with cultivated transcendence as MMY brought out. One could feel 
sorry for you and others that this was not your experience. “I have given you 
the key to the universe and you want an advanced technique?” -MMY May 1977 
 

 
 Compelled by enough spiritual experience on their own the meditating community 
of Fairfield, Iowa is proly not going to go away any time soon. I am going to 
copy out some of this posting as summary to add to material of particular 
experiences with the culture of the movement being collected by a sub-committee 
of the Mental Health Alliance as data-points about people's cultural experience 
related to mental health. It is progressing well. With enough data-points one 
can see to develop and implement better 'actionable' policy in facilitating 
organization to the benefit of individuals and the well-being of the 
organization. Metrics count that way in data, -JaiGuruYou!

 

I'm delighted that is of interest to you. I'm fascinated by the problem of 
mental ill health as it's so debilitating when it strikes and undermines your 
ability to live your life how you want. A contented experience of our inner 
self is fundamental to good living and when that goes wrong in some way it 
means your entire life has gone wrong.
 

 I'm interested in what problems people in the FF meditating community present 
to their doctors, whether it's things like symptoms that develop after learning 
TM or TMSP, or whether it's that they learned TM to help cope with pre-existing 
problems and it didn't work.
 

 And also the prevalence of certain conditions and whether they match the 
distribution of similar conditions in the wider country. For instance, it used 
to be that doctors in the UK would get more depressed housewives suffering lack 
of self esteem and anxiety about life. Since then there's been greater equality 
between sexes and decent career prospects so that doesn't happen so much. These 
days the greatest problem doctors are presented with is socially alienated 
young men. The suicide rate of men under 30 in the UK is horrifically high. 
Another thing I'm interested in is whether a community that is based on shared 
beliefs and a common goal has fewer cases of depression caused by the same 
feelings of social isolation? But that's more a sociological question and 
probably not within the scope of what you are doing.
 

 One of the things I think will have to look closely at is the TM model of 
stress and stress release. I think that it's wildly inaccurate and isn't even a 
simplified version of what does happen. The trouble I'm sure you have is there 
are going to be a lot of people in the TMO who learned TM to self-prescribe a 
hopeful cure for things that have plagued them their whole lives. A reason it 
falls down is that the sort of mental process that causes, say, anxiety attacks 
isn't a stress it isn't something that can be meditated away using Marshy's 
model of stress getting trapped in the nervous system and being simply 
released by deep relaxation. 
 

 There are many causes of anxiety states but as an example; I knew a purusha 
guy who learned TM because he was extremely shy with girls - to the point of 
panic attacks when alone in a room with one. He thought, and I doubt he was 
alone, that if he spent a few years in this deepest state this stress would 
get released and his anxiety would normalise. It didn't of course, because 
anxiety like his isn't a stress even thought it is stressful. Problems like 
his are caused by picking up signals in childhood that turn out not to be 
useful when we grow up. Maybe his parents were embarrassed about sex and he 
picked up on it and unconsciously saw it as something to feel guilty about. 
Upon reaching his teenage years he would be overcome by conflicting desires and 
the learned responses that his brain tells him are correct because that is the 
only thing it knows to do, but actually they cause tremendous fear.
 

 There are plenty of people who tell you they know how to deal with things like 
this but the only real way I've come across is by understanding the purely 
physical process of an anxiety attack and then gradually confronting the thing 
that triggers the problem. This works because when it's making you anxious your 
brain is trying to help you by repeating the response it learned to provided 
last time. It does this with everything you learn just to stop you having to 
concentrate when driving a car for instance. So when you start a process of 
retraining this system you learn that all you've got is some unhelpful 
programming, the brain doesn't discriminate between what is good and bad for 
you it's concern is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the TM secrets...mantras, puja, etc.

2015-07-11 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The puja was culled from a number of different well known pujas and 
shuddhis.  This is quite commonly done.  The only unique part would be 
the lines about SBS.  BTW, at Jyotish symposiums they would invite local 
Hindu temple priest to come an perform the Navagraha Puja.  Nope, the 
priests didn't have it memorized, they read it off pages.


The mantras have been around for ages and published elsewhere. They too 
are public domain.  Part of my point about posting the link to Sir John 
Woodroffe's Introduction to Tantra Shasta was that it was published 
before Maharishi was even born and contains a lot of concepts that TM 
uses.  Not that Woodroffe invented them either but was documenting that 
knowledge.  Nor am I implying Maharishi took them from that book. He 
wouldn't have needed to being in the ashram environment.


Similarly I have made reference numerous references to Swami 
Shivananda's Mind It's Mysteries and Control because it was published 
in the mid 1930s and contains many of the concepts used in the practice 
of TM.


However out of respect for other's intellectual property I would suggest 
drawing the line  spilling once again the beans about TM mantra 
specifics and specifically checking notes.  Besides as Alex points out 
they've already been spilled so why bother?


On 07/11/2015 05:23 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


**1.Don't violate the law. **Members of Yahoo communities are not 
above the law, so don't post anything that violates the laws of your 
country, state, province, or city. Don't try to trick people into 
sharing their personal information, post illegal images, or steal 
anything like copyright or trademark material. Don't threaten, harass, 
impersonate, or hurt others, and don't invade other people's privacy. 
Don't post content, share software or collect fees in violation of 
export or import laws.




Yabut; certainly this sensitive TM info that Edg is threatening to 
dump here on to FFL is all over the internet to be found; but the 
legal departments of both Yahoo! and the TM movement itself could 
proly have some things to say about Edg using a Yahoo group to divulge 
trademarked content. Edg as I recall him saying here is a TM teacher 
trained especially through the TM movement by MMY to teach TM? It 
sounds like a morass of legal trouble for Edg to move forward on such 
a threat to the group.


However, as a moderator of Yahoo-groups sworn to uphold the 
Yahoo-groups guidelines I await further consultation on this from 
Yahoo, the TM movement and our list owner. In the meantime publish the 
TM mantras and other trademarked things at your membership peril. Do 
notice that the folk-precedence set by our list owner over posting of 
such material to FFL is the removal of such content and possibly the 
removal of membership from FFL as needed to enforce this.  FFL does 
have its own standards too.  However, in the Yahoo-groups guidelines 
this kind of rates along there with, 'profanity' and other things. 
-Your obedient servant in service to the Yahoo-groups Guidelines, 
 JaiGuruYou!






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 
wrote :


The FFL archives are liberally sprinkled with links to minet.org, 
which contains all the TM secrets. Rick has not asked that stuff like 
that not be posted, and the Yahoo Holy Writ, which Doug has pledged to 
uphold until his last dying breath, certainly has no rules against it. 
So, go for it.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote :

It's a fair question -- an example question -- it's me doing science 
here.  I try out some words and see if that gets me banned.  Test and 
then measure the results!


If the answer is that I can post this kind of material, well, hey, 
isn't Doug much more liberal than I thought!


See?

I'm trying to get Doug to tell us his boundaries.  If he refuses to 
delineated his power, then we know that he's just making this shit up 
as he goes alongjust like I'm doing with this keyboard.


I refuse to be cinched up by the Emperor's New Leash.  IT'S NOT 
FUCKING THERE!


The TM program drives anyone insane.

BAMjust fucking words on a screen.  If some asshole takes my 
online opinion as truth, then he doesn't deserve the truth.


Fuck Maharishi up the ass with seven artichokes on a kebob.

BAM!.just fucking words.  I can do this all day, right?

You too, right?

IT'S NOT THE WORDS, it's the intent behind them that Doug is trying to 
throttle here.


If I mean the words, h boy, I'm in! trouble then.

But see?

Who can tell if I do or not?

Is Doug a mind reader?  Or is my creative writing off limits here?







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

And exactly what purpose would that serve, other than allowing you to 
live up to your carefully cultivated image of the Big Bad Boy?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Just the kind of title that Doug would check out, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Speech Zones

2015-07-11 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 It's quite amazing that both salyavin and Curtis, intelligent as they are, are 
still complaining loudly about the imaginary notion that Doug is out to ban 
people who express negative opinions of TM. It doesn't matter how many people 
tell them what Ann does below (highlighted in red); they simply can't hear 
it: The problem on FFL has not been criticism of TM, it's been gross incivility 
and misrepresentation, primarily by TM critics toward TM supporters. That's 
what Doug was appointed by Rick to correct, and so far that's what he's done by 
bouncing three of the guilty parties. 

 If Doug starts to censor negative opinions of TM, you're not just going to 
hear complaints from the TM critics; TM supporters won't stand for it either.

Me: When I was studying Brazilian Jiu Jitsu we used to use a trick to get 
someone to extend their arm so we could lock it and win the match by forcing 
them to tap out. When we got on top of them we would push on their throat. This 
would cause a reflex from them to try to push us away by extending their arm. 
So to attack the arm we went for the neck. This is what made is such an 
intellectual sport, like body chess. 

You and I are interpreting what happened that lead to Barry and Michael getting 
the boot. By hitting Barry with an outrageous accusation of violating the Yahoo 
guidelines by criticizing David Lynch, Barry reflexively extended his arm. It 
was an outrageous claim and a trumped up charge and it inspired an emotional 
response from Barry about Buck's unsuitability as a moderator in the context of 
an appeal to Rick to stop him before he did what he ended up doing.


NEW MATERIAL STARTS HERE:


 

 A: Gee, and this after your lecture about not getting emotional when 
badmouthed. 

Me: I am not sure what you are referring to here. I didn't say that Barry was 
forced to react in that way, it was his choice. I was making a case that it was 
predictable given the outrageous charges of saying something bad about Lynch. 
Buck and Barry know how each other tend to post.

A: Barry could have made his objections known with civility; he chose not to.

Me: We agree on this.

A: Sorry, but reflex doesn't cut it in this context, and you wouldn't propose 
or accept it as an excuse for someone whose views you didn't share losing it on 
an Internet forum.

Me: If you are calling me on the imprecision of the analogy if we focus on the 
idea of a reflex, implying that Barry HAD to get all uppity with his new 
master, I concede your point. The analogy is not good as stated. And if by 
implication my point unfairly made it seem as if Barry was forced, that would 
be wrong. I believe it was calculated either by foresight or opportunism by 
Buck who has had a goal for years to clean Barry off his forum.

The analogy realigns again if I include that we trained ourselves to have 
unnatural reactions so we did not thrust out our arms when someone pushed on 
our necks. Then we learned how to bait our opponent by sticking out our arm and 
when they predictably went for the arm, we cold reverse the position by knowing 
where they would move.

The exchange between Barry and Buck had all the elements of two opponents 
giving their best move. And since ref Rick wasn't looking, Buck won the match. 
(I get it that you would disagree with that parting shot.)


END


 
It is not as if  Buck has not been very clear about his view of speaking ill of 
the TM teaching. He has spent years and pretty tirelessly promoted the idea 
that he views it as on a par with terrorism. After having labeled people who 
left TM as quitters and other terms mostly used in religious contexts, he has 
weighed in on free speech. He is not a fan. Drone strikes were used as images 
to express his opinion about apostates. So it kind of makes sense that people 
who were in his target demo would feel the laser sight, and low and behold,
 

 (lo and behold = look and see)
 

 he got the two most vocal critics of TM off the site. Coincidence? Not for me.
 

 The two most vocal were also the two most uncivil.

Some of the worst offenders of this new policy moved to another site before we 
could really test if this rule would be selectively enforced or not.
 

 Actually the three who were bounced did. None of the others who have shown up 
there have been big offenders. (Well, maybe Edg.) Salyavin is still here as 
well as there. 
 

 So with all the civility appropriate to the new FFL: I believe that your 
opportunity to stand up for the principle of free speech here was missed in 
your sense of personal satisfaction that an old rival got canned.

 

 Yeah, you said that before. Wishful thinking. Too bad  you haven't got a 
better argument than one based on mind-reading.
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Acropolis Now!

2015-07-11 Thread feste37
Truly excellent post, Salyavin, I agree with what you say. TM of itself does 
not resolve childhood traumas, in my experience, and the TM model of stress 
release is inadequate to address such issues. I think many long-term TMers are 
aware of this and have sought out other means of addressing those things. Lots 
of people here in Fairfield are involved in a process called shadow work, 
which gets down into those deep-seated issues and helps to resolve them through 
a kind of enacted psychodrama. I did some shadow work and got a lot out of it 
regarding issues that had been with me since  an abusive childhood but which 
decades of TM had not budged in the slightest. On the other hand, I think there 
are quite a number of people on the MUM campus here who still hope that 
enlightenment will somehow come to them one day and all their troubles will be 
over, and still others who know this will not occur but who do not have the 
tools or the knowledge to address serious long-term psychological damage 
incurred, as often as not, in childhood. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks, this posting is really sensitive to some issues and respectfully said. 
Though, there are a lot of folks around here who do in fact have [objective] 
experience of 'ritam' aka, the 'siddhis-like' in practice or formula otherwise 
by Patanjali with cultivated transcendence as MMY brought out. One could feel 
sorry for you and others that this was not your experience. “I have given you 
the key to the universe and you want an advanced technique?” -MMY May 1977 
 

 
 Compelled by enough spiritual experience on their own the meditating community 
of Fairfield, Iowa is proly not going to go away any time soon. I am going to 
copy out some of this posting as summary to add to material of particular 
experiences with the culture of the movement being collected by a sub-committee 
of the Mental Health Alliance as data-points about people's cultural experience 
related to mental health. It is progressing well. With enough data-points one 
can see to develop and implement better 'actionable' policy in facilitating 
organization to the benefit of individuals and the well-being of the 
organization. Metrics count that way in data, -JaiGuruYou!

 

I'm delighted that is of interest to you. I'm fascinated by the problem of 
mental ill health as it's so debilitating when it strikes and undermines your 
ability to live your life how you want. A contented experience of our inner 
self is fundamental to good living and when that goes wrong in some way it 
means your entire life has gone wrong.
 

 I'm interested in what problems people in the FF meditating community present 
to their doctors, whether it's things like symptoms that develop after learning 
TM or TMSP, or whether it's that they learned TM to help cope with pre-existing 
problems and it didn't work.
 

 And also the prevalence of certain conditions and whether they match the 
distribution of similar conditions in the wider country. For instance, it used 
to be that doctors in the UK would get more depressed housewives suffering lack 
of self esteem and anxiety about life. Since then there's been greater equality 
between sexes and decent career prospects so that doesn't happen so much. These 
days the greatest problem doctors are presented with is socially alienated 
young men. The suicide rate of men under 30 in the UK is horrifically high. 
Another thing I'm interested in is whether a community that is based on shared 
beliefs and a common goal has fewer cases of depression caused by the same 
feelings of social isolation? But that's more a sociological question and 
probably not within the scope of what you are doing.
 

 One of the things I think will have to look closely at is the TM model of 
stress and stress release. I think that it's wildly inaccurate and isn't even a 
simplified version of what does happen. The trouble I'm sure you have is there 
are going to be a lot of people in the TMO who learned TM to self-prescribe a 
hopeful cure for things that have plagued them their whole lives. A reason it 
falls down is that the sort of mental process that causes, say, anxiety attacks 
isn't a stress it isn't something that can be meditated away using Marshy's 
model of stress getting trapped in the nervous system and being simply 
released by deep relaxation. 
 

 There are many causes of anxiety states but as an example; I knew a purusha 
guy who learned TM because he was extremely shy with girls - to the point of 
panic attacks when alone in a room with one. He thought, and I doubt he was 
alone, that if he spent a few years in this deepest state this stress would 
get released and his anxiety would normalise. It didn't of course, because 
anxiety like his isn't a stress even thought it is stressful. Problems like 
his are caused by picking up signals in childhood 

[FairfieldLife] It's good to hear everyone again...

2015-07-11 Thread laughinggull108
Although I'm still able to post at FFL, it's good to hear the banned voices 
again here at FFL-FSZ, as well as others who simply stopped writing at FFL. I 
may not agree with everything that these voices have to say, but it's 
everyone's right to express themselves, just as it's everyone's right to read 
or not read what others have to say, as well as contribute to the conversation 
or drop out of the conversation.
  
 Raunchydog once wrote that unless you have some skin in the game, you have 
no right to enter the conversation...I don't agree. Maybe those that have no 
skin in the game can offer the most objectivity to the conversation at hand.
  
 There has been mention of hypocrisy recently by at least one of the writers at 
FFL and The_Peak (I think it may have been Ann or back_formore, and maybe 
others) and I don't think these people can really see themselves. What a shame 
but I know, like the rest of us, they're just trying to find their way.
  
 Truly, it's good to hear your voices again!


[FairfieldLife] Re: Acropolis Now!

2015-07-11 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re stress and trauma: Doubtless the usual cause of psychological problems is 
because of inappropriate conditioned behaviour. But I wonder if in the case of 
sexual issues that imprinting isn't more significant. 

 What's that then? Imprinting is a learning pattern which occurs at a 
particular life stage. What is important to grasp is that imprinting is 
instantaneous and apparently independent of the consequences of behavior. 
 

 If this idea holds water then sexual imprinting is the process by which an 
adolescent boy or girl (at the point that sexual interests flood the system) 
learns the characteristics of a desirable mate from an accidental linkage 
between lust and some feature of the environment at that critical point. So if 
a boy's first stirrings were linked to a boot-wearing meter maid(!) then that 
could establish a fetish for that cue. What's noteworthy is that imprinted 
(unlike normal conditioned responses) can't be eradicated by the usual 
therapies. Hence sexual preferences are notoriously difficult to modify later 
in life no matter how distressing someone may find them.
 

 (Tim Leary and his acolytes claimed that LSD sessions could undo imprinted 
behaviour patterns. Maybe he's not the most convincing authority to cite. But 
maybe his suggestion is worth following up.)
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Truly excellent post, Salyavin, I agree with what you say. TM of itself does 
not resolve childhood traumas, in my experience, and the TM model of stress 
release is inadequate to address such issues. I think many long-term TMers are 
aware of this and have sought out other means of addressing those things. Lots 
of people here in Fairfield are involved in a process called shadow work, 
which gets down into those deep-seated issues and helps to resolve them through 
a kind of enacted psychodrama. I did some shadow work and got a lot out of it 
regarding issues that had been with me since  an abusive childhood but which 
decades of TM had not budged in the slightest. On the other hand, I think there 
are quite a number of people on the MUM campus here who still hope that 
enlightenment will somehow come to them one day and all their troubles will be 
over, and still others who know this will not occur but who do not have the 
tools or the knowledge to address serious long-term psychological damage 
incurred, as often as not, in childhood. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Thanks, this posting is really sensitive to some issues and respectfully said. 
Though, there are a lot of folks around here who do in fact have [objective] 
experience of 'ritam' aka, the 'siddhis-like' in practice or formula otherwise 
by Patanjali with cultivated transcendence as MMY brought out. One could feel 
sorry for you and others that this was not your experience. “I have given you 
the key to the universe and you want an advanced technique?” -MMY May 1977 
 

 
 Compelled by enough spiritual experience on their own the meditating community 
of Fairfield, Iowa is proly not going to go away any time soon. I am going to 
copy out some of this posting as summary to add to material of particular 
experiences with the culture of the movement being collected by a sub-committee 
of the Mental Health Alliance as data-points about people's cultural experience 
related to mental health. It is progressing well. With enough data-points one 
can see to develop and implement better 'actionable' policy in facilitating 
organization to the benefit of individuals and the well-being of the 
organization. Metrics count that way in data, -JaiGuruYou!

 

I'm delighted that is of interest to you. I'm fascinated by the problem of 
mental ill health as it's so debilitating when it strikes and undermines your 
ability to live your life how you want. A contented experience of our inner 
self is fundamental to good living and when that goes wrong in some way it 
means your entire life has gone wrong.
 

 I'm interested in what problems people in the FF meditating community present 
to their doctors, whether it's things like symptoms that develop after learning 
TM or TMSP, or whether it's that they learned TM to help cope with pre-existing 
problems and it didn't work.
 

 And also the prevalence of certain conditions and whether they match the 
distribution of similar conditions in the wider country. For instance, it used 
to be that doctors in the UK would get more depressed housewives suffering lack 
of self esteem and anxiety about life. Since then there's been greater equality 
between sexes and decent career prospects so that doesn't happen so much. These 
days the greatest problem doctors are presented with is socially alienated 
young men. The suicide rate of men under 30 in the UK is horrifically high. 
Another thing I'm interested in is whether a community that is 

[FairfieldLife] Goodbye global warming?

2015-07-11 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The earth is 15 years from a mini ice-age that will cause bitterly cold 
winters during which rivers such as the Thames freeze over, scientists have 
predicted.

 

 http://tinyurl.com/pznt35q http://tinyurl.com/pznt35q

 



[FairfieldLife] How do I post

2015-07-11 Thread Mail Uzer mail_u...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have only posted a few times.
How can I post...audio files, mp3 or link of other websites and or 
youtube links?
mail_u...@yahoo.com




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Chicken soup, Alex, chicken soup. 

 Well, actually, I say skewers of Doug prepared six ways!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 What, it's not enough that you get to bask in our crude, unfettered, bad boy 
glory?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 FFL-2 Award's Ceremony 

 MC-BW (and selector of the awards): Thank you, thank you.  Really, thank you.  
Okay, thank you.  Yes, yes, thank you. (applause finally dies down)
 

 I really didn't expect to receive all these awards, but I feel obligated to go 
along the choices of the selection committee.
 

 There's been a lot of talk over the years about my Lurking Reporter.  
 

 But now, I feel it is only right to give an award to someone our moderator has 
designated as FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter.  So, as a display of Potlatch to 
our esteemed moderator, the 2015 Award for FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter, goes 
to ..seventhray.
 

 Now, come on people, show some appreciation.  Can't we get one person to clap?
 

 Oh well, Ray, please accept this award. 
 

 
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Do I get an award at the FFL-2 Award's Ceremony?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 I am truly honored to have you as FFL-2's first official lurking reporter.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:
















[FairfieldLife] Hmmmmm, is this a FFL instruction manual?

2015-07-11 Thread Duveyoung
These will be useful in certain comment threads http://imgur.com/gallery/rjE84

 
 
 http://imgur.com/gallery/rjE84 
 
 These will be useful in certain comment threads http://imgur.com/gallery/rjE84 
Imgur: full of all the magic and wonders of the Internet.
 
 
 
 View on imgur.com http://imgur.com/gallery/rjE84 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:


[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am truly honored to have you as FFL-2's first official lurking reporter.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:




[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What, it's not enough that you get to bask in our crude, unfettered, bad boy 
glory?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote :

 FFL-2 Award's Ceremony 

 MC-BW (and selector of the awards): Thank you, thank you.  Really, thank you.  
Okay, thank you.  Yes, yes, thank you. (applause finally dies down)
 

 I really didn't expect to receive all these awards, but I feel obligated to go 
along the choices of the selection committee.
 

 There's been a lot of talk over the years about my Lurking Reporter.  
 

 But now, I feel it is only right to give an award to someone our moderator has 
designated as FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter.  So, as a display of Potlatch to 
our esteemed moderator, the 2015 Award for FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter, goes 
to ..seventhray.
 

 Now, come on people, show some appreciation.  Can't we get one person to clap?
 

 Oh well, Ray, please accept this award. 
 

 
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Do I get an award at the FFL-2 Award's Ceremony?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 I am truly honored to have you as FFL-2's first official lurking reporter.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:













[FairfieldLife] Re: JENNIFER ASTON TM CHANGED EVERYTHING

2015-07-11 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
She is a long-time yoga practitioner it seems so she has form. Still, another 
celebrity endorsement - with no embarrassing over-the-top claims for TM's 
benefits - is to be welcomed. 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote :

 Transcendental Meditation Changed Everything Says Jennifer Aniston - Press 
Release - Digital Journal http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2608623

  
  
  
  
  
  
 Transcendental Meditation Changed Everything Says Jennifer Aniston - Press 
Release - Digital Jou... http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2608623 I'd say a 
little over a year ago I started doing TM [Transcendental Meditation] and 
that's really changed everything.


 
 View on www.digitaljournal.com http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2608623
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2608623 
http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2608623

 

 Jennifer Aniston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston

  
  
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston
  
  
  
  
  
 Jennifer Aniston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston Jennifer Joanna Aniston[2] (born 
February 11, 1969) is an American actress, director, producer, and a 
businesswoman. She is the daughter of actor John...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston






[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Do I get an award at the FFL-2 Award's Ceremony?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 I am truly honored to have you as FFL-2's first official lurking reporter.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:






[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FFL-2 Award's Ceremony 

 MC-BW (and selector of the awards): Thank you, thank you.  Really, thank you.  
Okay, thank you.  Yes, yes, thank you. (applause finally dies down)
 

 I really didn't expect to receive all these awards, but I feel obligated to go 
along the choices of the selection committee.
 

 There's been a lot of talk over the years about my Lurking Reporter.  
 

 But now, I feel it is only right to give an award to someone our moderator has 
designated as FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter.  So, as a display of Potlatch to 
our esteemed moderator, the 2015 Award for FFL-2's First Lurking Reporter, goes 
to ..seventhray.
 

 Now, come on people, show some appreciation.  Can't we get one person to clap?
 

 Oh well, Ray, please accept this award. 
 

 
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Do I get an award at the FFL-2 Award's Ceremony?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 I am truly honored to have you as FFL-2's first official lurking reporter.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:











[FairfieldLife] Say hello to The Bomb

2015-07-11 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Trinity was the code name of the first detonation of an atomic bomb, 
conducted by the US Army on 16 July 1945 at Alamogordo so the 70th anniversary 
of the birth of our nuclear weapons age is just a few days away. It should be a 
sober event. Pity there aren't some things we can disinvent but maybe the fact 
that the Cold War never became heated is owing to The Bomb and M.A.D. and we 
should give thanks . . .

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru2PWmGIoB8 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru2PWmGIoB8

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Goodbye global warming?

2015-07-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 The earth is 15 years from a mini ice-age that will cause bitterly cold 
winters during which rivers such as the Thames freeze over, scientists have 
predicted.

 

 Man, am I confused. So we are in the early but terminal stages of global 
warming and at the same time we are going to experience a mini ice age. Great, 
just great. Do I order more sunblock or get out the down anorak (parka in North 
America)?
 

 http://tinyurl.com/pznt35q http://tinyurl.com/pznt35q

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

2015-07-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Yes, that post from t3rinity in 2008 really captures who Barry is.
 

 And that is, is that he is really, his own cult.
 

 Perhaps that's the reason he talks about cults so much.
 

 If you subscribe to some things Curtis has written, you should always be 
suspicious of the topics people constantly bring up, especially it they make a 
repeated, and concerted effort to distance themselves from the given subject or 
behavior in question.
 

 You see it all the time with politicians who champion anti gay legislation.
 

 Those are one to look for as being closeted gays.
 

 With Barry, everything is hunky dory so long as you go along with his opinions.
 

 But you veer off, and don't correct in time, and... his 
cult pattern emerges.
 

 And since we're sorta on the topic, even though you have often referred to Sal 
Sunshine, as stupid, I would not go that far, simply out of courtesy, but she 
sure is clueless as to any kind of social cues.
 

 Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen anyone as happy and gabby as she is, even 
if she does excel at making a fool of herself.
 

 Oh, one other thing.  I did get a big laugh out of Barry fashioning himself as 
some sort of humanitarian after someone posted that personal information about 
him.
 

 As he seems to be gearing up for an awards ceremony at some point, it sounds 
like for the 10th plus year (in a row), he is going to be the recipient of the 
Inadvertent Irony Award  (-:
 

 What, have you been away for a day or two honing your comedic skills? Did 
someone tune up your funny bone? Have you taken an advanced course in the 
ability to humorously and succinctly sum up the human condition in an FFL post? 
You are fast becoming my hero. Keep it up. I can only imagine our friends are 
starting to miss the attention of their greatest admirers who are no longer on 
the same side of the tracks.