[FairfieldLife] Swedish humor about intregration...

2016-04-05 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 Blond chick singing Swedish anthem on a black guy...
 

 https://youtu.be/dCDMGu-xi30 https://youtu.be/dCDMGu-xi30

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re "Because these people earned this money, it is theirs to spend it any way 
they like.":  

 Exactly!
 

 Mind you, I think the same applies when I hand over money to a pan-handler in 
the street.
 

 Once the cash leaves my hand it is his to do with as he chooses. I'd prefer it 
to go on food and shelter but if it goes towards booze so be it.
 

 The UK government is annoyed about Poles in Britain sending allowances to 
their children living in Poland. But if they brought the kids over to the UK it 
would mean an additional drain on school places, health care and housing. Not 
sure the government has got its sums right. 
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except  I was thinking more 
in line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds 
reasonable.. They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican 
government actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal 
immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help 
to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to 
their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow 
of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*.
 

 Because these people earned this money, it is theirs to spend it any way they 
like. If Americans willingly hire illegals to work then they know what the hell 
they're doing - they're hiring labor that might be the only ones willing to do 
the job that needs doing for the amount of money they are willing to pay. It 
takes two to tango. Once that money is earned, the earner can do with it as 
they like - if that means sending it to other family members or whatever it is 
they are doing then that is their right. Plus, monitoring who is sending what 
and how they are sending it would be impossible. Not to mention, Trump is going 
to deport all 8 million illegal Mexicans as soon as he sits in the Oval Office 
so how is he going to keep the illegals who he already kicked out from sending 
money to a place where he already deported the illegals to? It just keeps 
getting funnier and funnier.
 
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  

 

 Exactly.
 

 

 


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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 
   
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except  I was thinking more 
in line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds 
reasonable.. They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican 
government actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal 
immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help 
to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to 
their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow 
of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*.
 

 Because these people earned this money, it is theirs to spend it any way they 
like. If Americans willingly hire illegals to work then they know what the hell 
they're doing - they're hiring labor that might be the only ones willing to do 
the job that needs doing for the amount of money they are willing to pay. It 
takes two to tango. Once that money is earned, the earner can do with it as 
they like - if that means sending it to other family members or whatever it is 
they are doing then that is their right. Plus, monitoring who is sending what 
and how they are sending it would be impossible. Not to mention, Trump is going 
to deport all 8 million illegal Mexicans as soon as he sits in the Oval Office 
so how is he going to keep the illegals who he already kicked out from sending 
money to a place where he already deported the illegals to? It just keeps 
getting funnier and funnier.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 
   
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, I saw.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 8:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
 Better get your wings on and zip over to WI.  Bernie and Ted took the 
place.  Might want to fly by Trump headquarters too.  :-D 
 
 On 04/05/2016 12:21 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    I'd like to be a fly on the wall in her suite or headquarters. "That 
fucking *kike* did it again!"
  
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
      Wanna see Hillary blow her stack (once again) if Bernie takes WI 
tonight.  :-D 
 
 On 04/05/2016 11:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
     BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take  advantage of 
the system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass as much  power 
as she can.
  
 
 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any  Lower?
  
      Trump will say what he figures  conservatives want to hear. Not that 
he would do any of these  things.  Analysts have pointed out  that he has 
leaned more liberal in the  past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will  say whatever she thinks liberals will  want to hear.  
But she's actually more  right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been  saying for years.  For some things he and Trump 
are  on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting  election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM,  Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
   
     Plus I think Melania made  it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally,  meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been  thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded  like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So  easy to combine "punishment"  with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens  more easily because Melania 
didn't address the abortion  comment directly.  
 
 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation  better. Cruz explained that since Trump  
really is a New York  liberal, he thinks that is how  conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and  
evangelical voters. Rush  Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the  day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43  AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point occurred when  he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be  punished. As if having an abortion for  most 
women, isn't bad  enough! I bet he was trying to court the  Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
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[FairfieldLife] RE: In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 The European Transcendental Satsanga, and the forming of the Western 
ashram-like village:
 Mysticism and spiritual community growing through individual spiritual 
experience, to living room 'satsanga' gatherings, to meetings, to intentional 
community...
 


 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Interestingly as it has happened in time, as many of these spiritual communal 
villages located in America liquidated their communal assets at a point in 
their own histories their meeting houses often followed a different path from 
the productive assets of the villages. 
  Subsequent to sale their central artifact of mystical heritage as their 
village meeting houses have often ended up outside the bounds of what may have 
become their modern museum interpretation, the meeting houses even coming in to 
the hands of denominational forms of institutional religion. Such seems a 
life-cyclical fate of transcendentalism.
 

 One of the best ironies now in this 'meeting house' history is the Harmonist 
brick meeting house in Economy, Pa. now being owned subsequently by a Lutheran 
church, the church of persecution of these transcendentalists fleeing from 
Europe. http://www.stjohnsambridge.org/ http://www.stjohnsambridge.org/ . 
  A close second, the old Zoar brick 'meeting house' being presently owned by 
United Church of Christ goers. Both of these old meeting houses presently 
sitting outside the bounds of and not necessarily included on tour 
interpretation of these old communal spiritual villages within the respective 
State Historical Society museum presentations. 
  Also, the original brick meeting house of the Community of True Inspiration 
at the hamlet of Ebeneezer in New York (current day West Seneca, NY) is now 
operated presently as a Catholic Church is another example of transcendentalism 
spiritually forgotten and overlooked for religious form. From Ebenezer, NY The 
Community of True Inspiration as a spiritual communal group subsequently 
settling as the Amana Colonies in Iowa. In present day Amana several of the 
meeting houses are in the hands of the present day Amana museum collection of 
buildings for interpretation. 
 


 

 #
 
 Excerpts from:
 The German Pietists:
 Spiritual Mentors of the
 German Communal
 Settlements in America
 Victor Peters
 Professor of History
 Moorehead University
 Moorehead, Minnesota
 

 Published in:
 Communal Societies, The Journal of the Communal Studies Association

 
 http://www.communalstudies.org/communal-societies-vol-1-1981 
http://www.communalstudies.org/communal-societies-vol-1-1981
 

 

 Paracelsus, 1493-1541
 The dream of a New Jerusalem where there are no rich and poor,
 where there is no war and violence, and man is "whole" in body, mind,
 and spirit - the formation of the communal colonies in America was
 nothing less than an attempt to realize, with God's help, this dream. In
 Paracelsus we find a harbinger, a religious-social precursor and advocate
 of this new, God-sanctioned order.
 

 His full name was Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, but he
 called himself Paracelsus. Of Suabian-Swiss background, Paracelsus
 grew up with the rich folklore and folk-wisdom of his homeland. Like
 his father he became a physician, but he was also a naturalist, a chemist
 and philosopher.
 Like the German-American communalists, Paracelsus held that this
 new order could come about only through "an inner renewal of man."
 

 

 Kaspar von Schwenckfeld, 1489-1561
 Schwenckfeld was a contemporary of Martin Luther. His talents
 and productivity at first impressed Luther, but when Schwenckfeld advocated
 radical doctrinal changes, Luther turned against him. Schwenckfeld
 was born in Silesia and died in Ulm. He spent much of his life
 being hounded from state to state in his native Silesia, in Thuringia, in
 Hesse, and in Alsace. Although he never founded a church, he had many
 followers and some of these emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1734, where
 they did organize as a church. Known as Schwenckfelders they held services
 in a family setting and did not observe the rites of baptism and
 communion until the end of the 19th century.
 

 Schwenckfeld's beliefs and writings strongly influenced Bohme and
 the Pietistic movement. He preached Absonderung (separation), a term
 used by critics of the state church. Contained in this term was the belief
 that the Separatists were the "true church," while the state church was
 "Babel." Schwenckfeld also believed very strongly in divine inner inspiration,
 which superseded even the Bible as a directive in a person's
 life. He opposed baptism and communion as empty ceremonialism, and
 taught that simplicity in life as well as in church service was "the best
 adornment for the spirit." Though Schwenckfeld espoused the cause of
 education, he opposed speculative philosophy. According to him, man
 should not seek beyond the Scriptures for the meaning of life. Positive
 experience and the inner illumination of the spirit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Better get your wings on and zip over to WI.  Bernie and Ted took the 
place.  Might want to fly by Trump headquarters too. :-D


On 04/05/2016 12:21 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in her suite or headquarters. "That 
fucking *kike* did it again!"




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

Wanna see Hillary blow her stack (once again) if Bernie takes WI 
tonight. :-D


On 04/05/2016 11:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take advantage 
of the system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass 
as much power as she can.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that 
he would do any of these things. Analysts have pointed out that he 
has leaned more liberal in the past.


Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to 
hear. But she's actually more right leaning.


Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and 
Trump are on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting 
election!


On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder.


Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion 
comment. When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt 
a woman who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 
10% harder.


And of course, this combining also happens more easily because 
Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly.




*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives 
think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to 
conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much 
nailed it the day after Trump said it.




*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for 
most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea 
Party fanatics.






*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was at a conference not long ago where papers were given by scholars who 
recently have translated old German texts, letters, pamphlets, and tracts of 
satsang-like spiritual groups that were in Northern Europe. Some of these old 
texts were of the Community of True Inspiration, from their own long line of 
mystics going way back who existed in satsanga 'separately' through time while 
the Roman and Orthodox Churches and then subsequently the institutional 
Lutheran churches were each doing their religious persecuting thing. In these 
works of the separatists were overlapping writings from around Europe from 
spiritual luminaries of different decades and centuries. 
 
 
 This is recent scholarly work translating this material by American born and 
reared scholars raised speaking German within their families. A best of both 
mother tongues?  Their translations make nice reading as these scholars are 
fluent in both German and English. 
 

  From this material it is evident that those spiritual folks who surfaced by 
generation or so as leaders or spokespersons by force of spiritual experience 
are like more powerfully transforming people we could recognize today like 
Ammachi, Meera, John Douglas, Janet Sussman, Connie Huebner and such folks. 
Different than just religionists each have Quietism running through the 
cultural DNA of their spirituality and teaching.  
 

 

yifuxero writes: 

 Thanks for the followup discussions!  I had to google Lollardy to find out 
more.  In that it's associated with Wycliffe and many Lollards were his 
followers; it appears that relating to the eventual development of Quietism, 
Wycliffe may have been in some ways a setback.  His "Bible" only viewpoint help 
set many free from the clutches of Catholicism and present day Evangelicals 
rank him as one of the greatest of all-star predecessors to the antinomianism 
we see today in say, the Southern Baptists.
   Unfortunately, there seems to be no strain of Self(Gnosis) revelation in 
Wycliffe, unlike Fox who in my book was one of the greatest of the 
Enlightenment pioneers.   Hencesegue to modern practitioners of meditation 
that have inherited the Quietist inspiration.
 

  The concept of cultural DNA is fascinating and makes the Provenance question 
all the more difficult to simplify in something like an unbroken linear tree 
(as may be found in Shankara's Tradition or  among the Patriarchs of Jerusalem 
Orthodoxy.
  Such topics no doubt may provide fuel for a host of Phd dissertations, but 
there's one aspect of transmission such scholars would rather not touch upon 
due to political or cultural correctness:  That is - by way of example - that 
a. as in the case of individuals such as Fox, direct revelation from some 
aspect of "God" is possible and may lead to new Movements of great importance.  
Likewise from the Indian subcontinent there are many examples of great Saints 
having no particular Guru.  b. Similarly, a whole wave of  people can incarnate 
and be ready for an appearance of somebody like MMY; and it would be difficult 
for anybody to come up with logical antecedents or an explanation even from 
cultural DNA.
 

 Simply put, a. individuals and groups can receive direct experiential 
revelation through interior means and such pioneers are ready for the new 
knowledge because they have prepared for it in previous incarnations.  This 
idea would be completely taboo among Ivy League scholars. But imo there would 
be no other way to explain why MMY came to the West and people were already 
prepared for it!  Why? Because they incarnated to meet up with that particular 
Sage in space/timewith no antecedents necessary.
 There were of course antecedents to TM such as Yogananda's Kriya Yoga but that 
Movement was insufficient to explain the later development of the TM Movement 
with its many adherents.
 It's not necessary for us to look for the Teachers of the Buddha, Jesus, 
Shankara, or Ramana Maharshi. They had direct experiential revelation.   (of 
course, in many cases both aspects can coexist)...external teachers and 
internal revelation.
 Thanks again!
 Lollardy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 
 Lollardy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 Lollardy (Lollardry, Lollardism) was a political and religious movement that 
existed from the mid-14th century to the English Reformation. It was initially 
led ...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, experienced Spirituality and its supporting ideas were much more fluid 
than we might suppose moving across Europe evidently going way back in time. 
People and their 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, experienced Spirituality and its supporting ideas were much more fluid 
than we might suppose moving across Europe evidently going way back in time. 
People and their experiences with spirituality it seems have traveled back and 
forth across Europe from early times and evidently the separatist communities 
that facilitated these people and the insight of their practices traded back 
and forth too through time.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Does TM have any European antecedents? 
 
 
 ..we can isolate the Silence/Transcending aspect of TM, and for the same of 
discussion, forget the Puja part.  Then, TM would definitely be in the Quietist 
camp, since there's no imposition of any religious images (they may or may not 
arise spontaneously). 
 
 
 The Quietist Movement arose in the Catholic countries: Italy, France, and 
Spain..
 
 
 A parallel type of thinking and practice arose through George Fox, but many 
rudimentary antecedents can be found, for example, some practices of certain 
Gnostics, Cathars, and Meister Eckhart. 
 
 
  ..But all of this is heretical, ..eventually tried for Heresy and died in the 
Inquisition prison. 
 
 
 But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct 
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages, 
the 1370s.  

 Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
 
Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ This information 
was originally presented to the meeting for a “Quakerism 101” course by Eva 
Hersh on 4/13/2003. It was later revised by other members of Ho...
 
 
 
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http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The spread of the Antinomian tradition, as begun by the Lollards, was by 
means of extended kinship, intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As 
will be seen, the Lollard movement, which continued right up to the English 
Reformation of the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform campaign that 
harbored an ingrained Antinomian frame of mind. As such, Lollardy was as much a 
radical stance from which even more radical views and beliefs evolved over 
time, as it was a sect with a definitive theology and program of action. It 
comprised, therefor, many dissident attitudes about the nature of true 
religion,, the character of a “real” church, and the correct role of the state 
in relation to it. In short, it was a conveyor of religious and political 
radicalism. The means of dissident transmission was by families within great 
kin networks, part of a much broader process of what might be called a 
“cultural genetics"."


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.
 

 Yes, Jai George Fox!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Kinship, therefore, was a determinant of far more than mere bloodlines: it 
was a radical cultural transmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural, 
religious, and political traits. It continually revealed repetitive familial 
continuities and ancient customs of significant proportions. Tracing long lines 
of familial descent show that kinship connections almost invariably portended 
the descent of radical religious tendencies, and thus of radical political 
positions. 
 ..Thus, this continuous, repetitive congeries of familial patterns was not 
only accidental, it was an historically definable and demonstrable phenomenon, 
a marvel of great historical significance."
 

 Renegade Yankees 
 The Antinomian Tradition and Agrarian Resistance in the Colonial American 
Northeast, 1636-1809
 by Donald Alan Smith  
 

 

 Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration.  

 But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of 
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
 

 Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
 

 All three were targeted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism 
would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more 
respect.

 

 Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon
  


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MD, as one Western transcendental meditationist remarkably you evidently are 
part of a long line-bred tradition that came out of European separatist 
spirituality. This dissertation I am reading describes this as like the 
genetics of cultural familial DNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as cultured 
from generation to generation. 
 ..In your case the English Lollard antinoniam line to New England af

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-05 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for the followup discussions!  I had to google Lollardy to find out 
more.  In that it's associated with Wycliffe and many Lollards were his 
followers; it appears that relating to the eventual development of Quietism, 
Wycliffe may have been in some ways a setback.  His "Bible" only viewpoint help 
set many free from the clutches of Catholicism and present day Evangelicals 
rank him as one of the greatest of all-star predecessors to the antinomianism 
we see today in say, the Southern Baptists.
   Unfortunately, there seems to be no strain of Self(Gnosis) revelation in 
Wycliffe, unlike Fox who in my book was one of the greatest of the 
Enlightenment pioneers.   Hencesegue to modern practitioners of meditation 
that have inherited the Quietist inspiration.
  The concept of cultural DNA is fascinating and makes the Provenance question 
all the more difficult to simplify in something like an unbroken linear tree 
(as may be found in Shankara's Tradition or  among the Patriarchs of Jerusalem 
Orthodoxy.
  Such topics no doubt may provide fuel for a host of Phd dissertations, but 
there's one aspect of transmission such scholars would rather not touch upon 
due to political or cultural correctness:  That is - by way of example - that 
a. as in the case of individuals such as Fox, direct revelation from some 
aspect of "God" is possible and may lead to new Movements of great importance.  
Likewise from the Indian subcontinent there are many examples of great Saints 
having no particular Guru.  b. Similarly, a whole wave of  people can incarnate 
and be ready for an appearance of somebody like MMY; and it would be difficult 
for anybody to come up with logical antecedents or an explanation even from 
cultural DNA.
 Simply put, a. individuals and groups can receive direct experiential 
revelation through interior means and such pioneers are ready for the new 
knowledge because they have prepared for it in previous incarnations.  This 
idea would be completely taboo among Ivy League scholars. But imo there would 
be no other way to explain why MMY came to the West and people were already 
prepared for it!  Why? Because they incarnated to meet up with that particular 
Sage in space/timewith no antecedents necessary.
 There were of course antecedents to TM such as Yogananda's Kriya Yoga but that 
Movement was insufficient to explain the later development of the TM Movement 
with its many adherents.
 It's not necessary for us to look for the Teachers of the Buddha, Jesus, 
Shankara, or Ramana Maharshi. They had direct experiential revelation.   (of 
course, in many cases both aspects can coexist)...external teachers and 
internal revelation.
 Thanks again!
 Lollardy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 
 
 Lollardy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 Lollardy (Lollardry, Lollardism) was a political and religious movement that 
existed from the mid-14th century to the English Reformation. It was initially 
led ...
 
 
 
 View on en.wikipedia.org 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lollardy#/media/File:WycliffeYeamesLollards_01.jpg
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Spiritual Awakening Isn't Reserved For Buddhas And Prophets

2016-04-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Congrats!  That might get you a couple more viewers or a couple thousand 
or more. ;-)


On 04/05/2016 04:08 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/buddha-at-the-gas-pump-rick-archer_us_5702af9de4b0daf53af0450a 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Does TM have any European antecedents? 
 
 
 ..we can isolate the Silence/Transcending aspect of TM, and for the same of 
discussion, forget the Puja part.  Then, TM would definitely be in the Quietist 
camp, since there's no imposition of any religious images (they may or may not 
arise spontaneously). 
 
 
 The Quietist Movement arose in the Catholic countries: Italy, France, and 
Spain..
 
 
 A parallel type of thinking and practice arose through George Fox, but many 
rudimentary antecedents can be found, for example, some practices of certain 
Gnostics, Cathars, and Meister Eckhart. 
 
 
  ..But all of this is heretical, ..eventually tried for Heresy and died in the 
Inquisition prison. 
 
 
 But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct 
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages, 
the 1370s.  

 Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
 
Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 
 Early Quaker History 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ This information 
was originally presented to the meeting for a “Quakerism 101” course by Eva 
Hersh on 4/13/2003. It was later revised by other members of Ho...
 
 
 
 View on homewoodfriends.org 
http://homewoodfriends.org/2015/02/17/early-quaker-history-2/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The spread of the Antinomian tradition, as begun by the Lollards, was by 
means of extended kinship, intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As 
will be seen, the Lollard movement, which continued right up to the English 
Reformation of the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform campaign that 
harbored an ingrained Antinomian frame of mind. As such, Lollardy was as much a 
radical stance from which even more radical views and beliefs evolved over 
time, as it was a sect with a definitive theology and program of action. It 
comprised, therefor, many dissident attitudes about the nature of true 
religion,, the character of a “real” church, and the correct role of the state 
in relation to it. In short, it was a conveyor of religious and political 
radicalism. The means of dissident transmission was by families within great 
kin networks, part of a much broader process of what might be called a 
“cultural genetics"."


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under 
different names.
 

 Yes, Jai George Fox!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Kinship, therefore, was a determinant of far more than mere bloodlines: it 
was a radical cultural transmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural, 
religious, and political traits. It continually revealed repetitive familial 
continuities and ancient customs of significant proportions. Tracing long lines 
of familial descent show that kinship connections almost invariably portended 
the descent of radical religious tendencies, and thus of radical political 
positions. 
 ..Thus, this continuous, repetitive congeries of familial patterns was not 
only accidental, it was an historically definable and demonstrable phenomenon, 
a marvel of great historical significance."
 

 Renegade Yankees 
 The Antinomian Tradition and Agrarian Resistance in the Colonial American 
Northeast, 1636-1809
 by Donald Alan Smith  
 

 

 Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration.  

 But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of 
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
 

 Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
 

 All three were targeted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism 
would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more 
respect.

 

 Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon
  


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MD, as one Western transcendental meditationist remarkably you evidently are 
part of a long line-bred tradition that came out of European separatist 
spirituality. This dissertation I am reading describes this as like the 
genetics of cultural familial DNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as cultured 
from generation to generation. 
 ..In your case the English Lollard antinoniam line to New England affecting 
radical religion and politics. There were other transcendentalist spiritual 
lines that migrated directly out of Europe also which affected our American 
radical (transcendent) spirituality (equality) and political sensibilities 
(rights) as to the proper role of church and State in our culture.

 I would nominate you for a Maharishi Award in recognition of you and your 
family's long relationship with this.
 

 -JaiGuruYou!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Why Spiritual Awakening Isn't Reserved For Buddhas And Prophets

2016-04-05 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/buddha-at-the-gas-pump-rick-archer_us_57
02af9de4b0daf53af0450a 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm thinking Hillary is facing the same problem. Fewer and fewer people are 
liking her as well.The difference is, Cruz has a reputation of being anti 
establishment. That's why the Republicans don't like him. He wants to upset  
the system that  they've worked out with establishment Democrats. Hillary 
embodies the System.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 4:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
 Hillary would love to run against Cruz because he has a rat's chance of 
being elected.  People just don't like him.  He's a creepy guy.
 
 On 04/05/2016 12:41 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Trump would have Hillary crawled up in a fetal position in a debate from a 
brutish attack on her character. It would look like Rodney Dangerfield and Don 
Rickles at the same time attacking her.  
  Now Cruz and Hillary in a debate would be very interesting. I think Cruz was 
captain of the Harvard debate team.
 
From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     That's funny about Trump leaning left and Hillary leaning right, never 
thought  of it that way. 
  
  Bernie vs. Trump would be a good contest. But Bernie vs. Cruz would in some 
ways be even more fun.  
  
  If it's Hillary vs. Cruz, she'll eat him alive! Hillary vs. Trump...ugh, 
it'll be a long,  tedious summer! 
  
  
   
 
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"! 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
      Trump will say what he figures conservatives  want to hear. Not that 
he would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that  he has leaned 
more liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say  whatever she thinks liberals will want to  hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying  for years.  For some things he and Trump 
are on  the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting  election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share  Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
   
     Plus I think Melania made  it worse when she commented that he treats  
everyone equally,  meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been  thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded  like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So  easy to combine "punishment"  with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens  more easily because Melania 
didn't address the abortion  comment directly.  
 
 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation  better. Cruz explained that since Trump  
really is a New York  liberal, he thinks that is how  conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and  
evangelical voters. Rush  Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the  day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43  AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point occurred when  he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be  punished. As if having an abortion for  most 
women, isn't bad  enough! I bet he was trying to court the  Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Hillary would love to run against Cruz because he has a rat's chance of 
being elected.  People just don't like him.  He's a creepy guy.


On 04/05/2016 12:41 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Trump would have Hillary crawled up in a fetal position in a debate 
from a brutish attack on her character. It would look like Rodney 
Dangerfield and Don Rickles at the same time attacking her.
Now Cruz and Hillary in a debate would be very interesting. I think 
Cruz was captain of the Harvard debate team.



*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:20 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

That's funny about Trump leaning left and Hillary leaning right, never 
thought of it that way.


Bernie vs. Trump would be a good contest. But Bernie vs. Cruz would in 
some ways be even more fun.


If it's Hillary vs. Cruz, she'll eat him alive! Hillary vs. 
Trump...ugh, it'll be a long, tedious summer!






*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"! 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things. Analysts have pointed out that he has 
leaned more liberal in the past.


Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to 
hear.  But she's actually more right leaning.


Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and 
Trump are on the same page. Now that would be a very interesting election!


On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder.


Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. 
When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman 
who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.


And of course, this combining also happens more easily because 
Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly.




*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives 
think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to 
conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed 
it the day after Trump said it.




*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for 
most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea 
Party fanatics.






*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html

















Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, yeahwhen a man loses his temper, he's tough, he's a leader, he's 
strong and there's no need for him to apologize and he isn't eviscerated in the 
media.  There is already so much emotional reaction out there towards her, 
simply because she's a woman.  I said awhile ago that she needs to lighten up, 
stop personalizing it, and crack jokes.  Keep cool and stay on message with 
respect to what "we" can accomplish together with her at the helm.  Leave all 
the BS and the "I'm the one who can beat the Republicans" behind. She's going 
to be judged by a different behavioral standard; an unfair one and a 
hypocritical one, but that's the reality of it.  Sexism is alive and well.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'd like to be a fly on the wall in her suite or headquarters. "That fucking 
*kike* did it again!"
 
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 
   
 Wanna see Hillary blow her stack (once again) if Bernie takes WI tonight. :-D 
 
 On 04/05/2016 11:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take advantage of the 
system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass as much power as 
she can.

 
 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he would 
do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned more 
liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and Trump are 
on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long mailto:sharelong60@...sharelong60@... 
mailto:sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

 

 Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

 

 And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 
 
 

 From: "Mike Dixon mailto:mdixon.6569@...mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"; 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is 
a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.
 
 
 

 From: "Share Long mailto:sharelong60@...sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... 
[FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"; 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  

 

 

 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife]Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    Yes, I think you're right; her tone gave her away.  She *was* talking about 
his political posturing. He doesn't know anything about foreign policy.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

She wasn't talking about his approach to foreign policy, although you would 
have to wonder.She was talking about his political posturing. It's been very 
effective for him so far. He makes people so uncomfortable with his counter 
attacks, that many just want to avoid dealing with him. It worked with Cruz for 
a while but now Cruz just laughs him off as Donald being Donald and points out 
his policy(or lack of) and political  vulnerabilities.  What else do you expect?


  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 *times* 
harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign policy.  He 
basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, didn't even 
mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his vocabulary is very 
limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate the emotion of how he 
thinks so many men *feel* about women who get pregnant—all their fault.  He has 
brought Melania in to help smooth the waters with respect to that major gaff—by 
her presence as a supportive wife and attractive female.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


   From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




   From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Trump would have Hillary crawled up in a fetal position in a debate from a 
brutish attack on her character. It would look like Rodney Dangerfield and Don 
Rickles at the same time attacking her.  
Now Cruz and Hillary in a debate would be very interesting. I think Cruz was 
captain of the Harvard debate team.

  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    That's funny about Trump leaning left and Hillary leaning right, never 
thought of it that way. 

Bernie vs. Trump would be a good contest. But Bernie vs. Cruz would in some 
ways be even more fun. 

If it's Hillary vs. Cruz, she'll eat him alive! Hillary vs. Trump...ugh, it'll 
be a long, tedious summer! 




  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
 Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned 
more liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and Trump are 
on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly.  
 
From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a  New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and 
evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point  occurred when he said that women who get  
illegal abortions  should be punished. As if having an  abortion for most 
women,  isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying  to court the Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  
 
   
 

 
 
 
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I think you're right; her tone gave her away.  She *was* talking about his 
political posturing. He doesn't know anything about foreign policy.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 She wasn't talking about his approach to foreign policy, although you would 
have to wonder.She was talking about his political posturing. It's been very 
effective for him so far. He makes people so uncomfortable with his counter 
attacks, that many just want to avoid dealing with him. It worked with Cruz for 
a while but now Cruz just laughs him off as Donald being Donald and points out 
his policy(or lack of) and political  vulnerabilities.  What else do you expect?

 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 
   I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 
*times* harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign 
policy.  He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, 
didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his 
vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate 
the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get 
pregnant—all their fault.  He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters 
with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and 
attractive female.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

 

 Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

 

 And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.
 
 


 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  

 

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html


 













 


 












 


 













 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, it's ridiculous that his team never prepped him on the abortion issue. 
Jeez, it's the hot button of American politics.
Actually HuffPost had a very thorough article about Trump and abortion. It 
noted that pro-lifers also disagreed with what Trump said.


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    Share, Trump's comment about *punishing* women who have abortions ,as I 
said earlier, was meant to be *pandering* to conservatives and evangelicals 
because he thought that is what they wanted to hear. It became clear to him 
later that that is not how conservatives and evangelicals think, so he back 
peddled. I seriously doubt that he ever would have considered such a thing 
since he *used* to be pro choice. Well, Pro- life doesn't go along with that 
either. However I'll bet a dime to a doughnut hole that publications like 
Huffington Post and Saloon.com etc.are desperately trying to dig up some 
comment, some where, to indicate that is exactly what pro-lifers believe.


  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    The thing is, the abortion issue is so emotionally charged for so many 
people that we aren't even aware of our strong feelings about it. I've felt 
positive about Trump until I read that "punishment" comment wrt abortion. My 
reaction, which took me unawares, was instantaneous and irrevocable. And, for 
me, his backpedaling made it worse. Melania ignoring the comment made it worse. 
All in all, a PR nightmare. And I think he knows it.  


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 
*times* harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign 
policy.  He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, 
didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his 
vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate 
the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get 
pregnant—all their fault.  He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters 
with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and 
attractive female.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


   From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




   From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html






  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in her suite or headquarters. "That fucking 
*kike* did it again!"


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
 Wanna see Hillary blow her stack (once again) if Bernie takes WI tonight.  
:-D 
 
 On 04/05/2016 11:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take advantage of the 
system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass as much power as 
she can.
  
 
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
      Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that 
he would do any  of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned 
more liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and Trump are 
on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
   
     Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he  treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion  comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had  an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania  
didn't address the abortion comment directly.  
 
 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any  Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation  better. Cruz explained that since Trump  
really is a New York  liberal, he thinks that is how  conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and  
evangelical voters. Rush  Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the  day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43  AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]  Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point occurred when  he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be  punished. As if having an abortion for  most 
women, isn't bad  enough! I bet he was trying to court the  Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  
 
   
 

 
 
  

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's funny about Trump leaning left and Hillary leaning right, never thought 
of it that way. 

Bernie vs. Trump would be a good contest. But Bernie vs. Cruz would in some 
ways be even more fun. 

If it's Hillary vs. Cruz, she'll eat him alive! Hillary vs. Trump...ugh, it'll 
be a long, tedious summer! 




  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
 Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned 
more liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and Trump are 
on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly.  
 
From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a  New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and 
evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point  occurred when he said that women who get  
illegal abortions  should be punished. As if having an  abortion for most 
women,  isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying  to court the Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  
 
   
 

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Wanna see Hillary blow her stack (once again) if Bernie takes WI 
tonight. :-D


On 04/05/2016 11:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take advantage of 
the system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass as 
much power as she can.




*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has 
leaned more liberal in the past.


Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to 
hear.  But she's actually more right leaning.


Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and 
Trump are on the same page.  Now that would be a very interesting 
election!


On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder.


Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. 
When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman 
who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.


And of course, this combining also happens more easily because 
Melania didn't address the abortion comment directly.




*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives 
think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to 
conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed 
it the day after Trump said it.




*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 
 [FairfieldLife]" 
 
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 
 

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for 
most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea 
Party fanatics.






*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 
 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 


*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html















Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
BINGO! Pretty much anyway. Hillary just knows how to take advantage of the 
system in place. She's out to feather her own nest and amass as much power as 
she can.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
 Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has leaned 
more liberal in the past.
 
 Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to hear.  
But she's actually more right leaning.
 
 Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and Trump are 
on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!
 
 On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 
  
  Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.
  
  And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly.  
 
From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a  New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not 
knowing any better, he thought he was  pandering to conservative and 
evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump 
said it.
  
 
  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
     I thought his lowest point  occurred when he said that women who get  
illegal abortions  should be punished. As if having an  abortion for most 
women,  isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying  to court the Tea Party fanatics. 
 
  
  
  
 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18  AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy  Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  
 
   
 

 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, Trump's comment about *punishing* women who have abortions ,as I said 
earlier, was meant to be *pandering* to conservatives and evangelicals because 
he thought that is what they wanted to hear. It became clear to him later that 
that is not how conservatives and evangelicals think, so he back peddled. I 
seriously doubt that he ever would have considered such a thing since he *used* 
to be pro choice. Well, Pro- life doesn't go along with that either. However 
I'll bet a dime to a doughnut hole that publications like Huffington Post and 
Saloon.com etc.are desperately trying to dig up some comment, some where, to 
indicate that is exactly what pro-lifers believe.


  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    The thing is, the abortion issue is so emotionally charged for so many 
people that we aren't even aware of our strong feelings about it. I've felt 
positive about Trump until I read that "punishment" comment wrt abortion. My 
reaction, which took me unawares, was instantaneous and irrevocable. And, for 
me, his backpedaling made it worse. Melania ignoring the comment made it worse. 
All in all, a PR nightmare. And I think he knows it.  


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 
*times* harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign 
policy.  He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, 
didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his 
vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate 
the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get 
pregnant—all their fault.  He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters 
with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and 
attractive female.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


   From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




   From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html






  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
She wasn't talking about his approach to foreign policy, although you would 
have to wonder.She was talking about his political posturing. It's been very 
effective for him so far. He makes people so uncomfortable with his counter 
attacks, that many just want to avoid dealing with him. It worked with Cruz for 
a while but now Cruz just laughs him off as Donald being Donald and points out 
his policy(or lack of) and political  vulnerabilities.  What else do you expect?


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 
*times* harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign 
policy.  He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, 
didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his 
vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate 
the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get 
pregnant—all their fault.  He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters 
with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and 
attractive female.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


   From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




   From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Trump will say what he figures conservatives want to hear. Not that he 
would do any of these things.  Analysts have pointed out that he has 
leaned more liberal in the past.


Similarly Hillary will say whatever she thinks liberals will want to 
hear.  But she's actually more right leaning.


Bernie says what he's been saying for years.  For some things he and 
Trump are on the same page.  Now that would  be a very interesting election!


On 04/05/2016 10:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats 
everyone equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder.


Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. 
When I heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman 
who'd had an abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.


And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania 
didn't address the abortion comment directly.




*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump 
really is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives 
think, not knowing any better, he thought he was pandering to 
conservative and evangelical voters. Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed 
it the day after Trump said it.




*From:* "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get 
illegal abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for 
most women, isn't bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea 
Party fanatics.






*From:* "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html











Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The ones here legally , we already know who they are because they have green 
cards and legal status and further more could and probably would be exempted . 
It's estimated that there are at least 11 million here undocumented. More 
realistically, probably more than 20 million have made the journey el Norte.
I would think banking laws would require anyone authorized to to wire or 
transfer funds to Mexico or Central America to enforce it. Most of it is done 
electronically anyway. Business transactions could be exempted as well.
OR. Mexico could pay for the wall and prevent any interruption of the 
status quo. They create the problem, they pay for the solution.
  From: "Dawn maya_moon_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    This makes no sense. The people sending money to Mexico could be here 
legally OR illegally. There is no way of knowing without asking for ID or 
paperwork. Who will enforce this? Also, many 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation 
Mexican Americans send money to relatives in Mexico.  Another thing, some 
religious organizations might send money to other religious organizations or 
even charities in Mexico.  Does Trump plan to seize this money also?  


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except  I was thinking 
more in line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds 
reasonable.. They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican 
government actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal 
immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help 
to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to 
their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow 
of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The thing is, the abortion issue is so emotionally charged for so many people 
that we aren't even aware of our strong feelings about it. I've felt positive 
about Trump until I read that "punishment" comment wrt abortion. My reaction, 
which took me unawares, was instantaneous and irrevocable. And, for me, his 
backpedaling made it worse. Melania ignoring the comment made it worse. All in 
all, a PR nightmare. And I think he knows it.  


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 12:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 
*times* harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign 
policy.  He basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, 
didn't even mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his 
vocabulary is very limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate 
the emotion of how he thinks so many men *feel* about women who get 
pregnant—all their fault.  He has brought Melania in to help smooth the waters 
with respect to that major gaff—by her presence as a supportive wife and 
attractive female.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


   From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




   From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think what she said was that "if you attack him, he will hit back 10 *times* 
harder."  She was probably talking about his approach to foreign policy.  He 
basically backed off on the abortion comment because he, himself, didn't even 
mean what he said. One of his major limitations is that his vocabulary is very 
limited. I believe, he was basically trying to articulate the emotion of how he 
thinks so many men *feel* about women who get pregnant—all their fault.  He has 
brought Melania in to help smooth the waters with respect to that major gaff—by 
her presence as a supportive wife and attractive female.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

 

 Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

 

 And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
 
 
   
 I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.
 
 


 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  

 

 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

 
   
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html


 













 


 












 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Dawn maya_moon_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This makes no sense. The people sending money to Mexico could be here legally 
OR illegally. There is no way of knowing without asking for ID or paperwork. 
Who will enforce this? Also, many 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation Mexican Americans 
send money to relatives in Mexico.  Another thing, some religious organizations 
might send money to other religious organizations or even charities in Mexico.  
Does Trump plan to seize this money also?  


  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except  I was thinking 
more in line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds 
reasonable.. They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican 
government actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal 
immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help 
to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to 
their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow 
of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Plus I think Melania made it worse when she commented that he treats everyone 
equally, meaning he'd hit back 10% harder. 

Because so many people have been thinking about his abortion comment. When I 
heard hers, it sounded like he'd hit 10% harder wrt a woman who'd had an 
abortion! So easy to combine "punishment" with 10% harder.

And of course, this combining also happens more easily because Melania didn't 
address the abortion comment directly. 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really 
is a New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing 
any better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I doubt there will be any new leadership within the TMO that makes any 
significant change. Any radical changes of what *maharishi says* would be seen 
as tampering with the purity of the teaching, even if it only involved policy. 
Currently, I see the AOL as being the next step in the Holy Tradition. Sri Sri 
seems to have energized Maharishi's teaching, while Bevan et. al. have let it 
die on the vine.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:47 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM
   
    Millennials by culture it seems are not so malleable, though some number 
can still be religious fanatical about TM.  In tone there is a race on within 
TM to adapt some hearts and minds to what is current, one way and/or another.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  
Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ThePrime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
Yourodds of living 10 more years.. if you are 45 years of age is about 24in 25. 
Accordingto the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you 
are:53years of age is about 10 in 11. Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 
years of age is about 5 in 6. Yourodds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 
are about 3 in 4.  Ifyou are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 
more years. Age75, 1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will 
last 10years.   At age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. Age 88, 1 in 
20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, ..cumulatively, most 
everyone else is gone before then.
Thedie-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actuallymake it 
to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
  -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Currently,on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,..about 
65-70 years of age, on average. 
1994,Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,Age:25-3565 10%36-4539160%46-55138 
21%>55 47 7%


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span in 
the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
Post-War CohortBorn: 1928-1945Coming of Age: 1946-1963Age in 2004: 59 to 
76Current Population: 41 million (declining)
Boomers I or The Baby BoomersBorn: 1946-1954Coming of Age: 1963-1972Age in 
2004: 50-58Current Population: 33 million 

Boomers II or Generation JonesBorn: 1955-1965Coming of Age: 1973-1983Age in 
2004: 39 to 49Current Population: 49 millio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I liked Cruz's explanation better. Cruz explained that since Trump really is a 
New York liberal, he thinks that is how conservatives think, not knowing any 
better, he thought he was pandering to conservative and evangelical voters. 
Rush Limbaugh pretty much nailed it the day after Trump said it.


  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
  
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's pretty much how I figured he would do it, except  I was thinking more in 
line of a tax on money transfers to Mexico. The plan really sounds reasonable.. 
They (illegals) violate our immigration laws and the Mexican government 
actually encourages it because they are the beneficiaries of illegal 
immigration. They need to pay their *fair share* of the problem that they help 
to create. Mexico doesn't tolerate Central Americans illegally immigrating to 
their country. Ten billion is a small price to pay to keep an annual cash flow 
of 25 billion. I don't really understand how you can call that *stooping low*.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?
   
    
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
MUM could send a team of meditators to help out with this fledgling Burlington 
group meditation.  It would be good for both groups to have TM’ers show up for 
the group meditation.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ..By the science and we know this too by experience, TM’ers should show up.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep.  TM’ers should loosen up, reach out and show up for communal meditations, 
like a duty.  
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract 
those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond.  

 But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in 
promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic 
way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even 
close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false 
modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to 
the vast array of spiritual products available today. 

 However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a 
collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the 
saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world 
conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing 
transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an 
overall beneficial effect. 

 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling 
others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want 
that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him).
 

 It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra 
special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their 
particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country 
club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most 
of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not 
in the ways we think we are!
 
 


 From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent 
prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
 
 
   
 Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our 
technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the 
best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning 
and wise.”
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer 
..Meditation 's Going Mainstream


  
  
 Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations.  The antagonism with 
the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures.  Seems a 
marketing device employed on or by TM'ers.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
 TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training 
teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques

  when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained 
why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good 
manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't 
recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the 
other guys meditation down and build his up.

 As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation 
down in order to look superior.


 
 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] 
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]"; mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer 
..Meditation 's Going Mainstream

  
  
 But why are TM’ers so persnickety?  Among old Quakers those members who were 
well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with 
and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends 
to meditate with.   TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and 
exclusive.   
 

 Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussions of combining dharana, 
dhyan and samadhi in meditation is like the aggregate of focus in the 
TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and 
Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some 
buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Finding New Leadership for Old TM

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Millennials by culture it seems are not so malleable, though some number can 
still be religious fanatical about TM.  In tone there is a race on within TM to 
adapt some hearts and minds to what is current, one way and/or another.   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Though look closer at this recent list someone provided of meditators who have 
passed.  It has a lot of the WW II and post-war cohort generation on it now,  
as would be expected of age 70 and 80+ year older meditators.  The earlier 
lists include more of TM boomers I and II who have passed away.  
 

 Next up to bat are Boomers I and then Boomers II, naturally.  The lists of 
meditators that are further down show what was the natural mortality of TM 
Boomers I and II too.  In any population there are people who die-off all along 
as a natural attrition.  TM’ers are no different that way.  In fact, a natural 
die-off in modern humans really accelerates once people hit 70, to where very 
very few make it to their 80’s. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We need not to get too defensive about this.  In a Natural mortality like most 
any general population of peoples TM’ers have been dying all along throughout 
their decades.  Mortality rates generally are slow and seemingly imperceptible 
early-on up through middle years.  

 

Sri writes:  There is nothing in this list to indicate TM Governors die young, 
this list does not show all the Governors, many who are alive and very old.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Prime Minister of TM was born in 1955?
 

 Your odds of living 10 more years.. 
 if you are 45 years of age is about 24 in 25. 
 

 According to the USA Census your odds of making it ten more years if you are:
 53 years of age is about 10 in 11. 
 Your odds of living 10 years more from 60 years of age is about 5 in 6. 
 Your odds of making it 10 more years if you are 68 are about 3 in 4.  
 If you are 70 the odds are 2 in 3 that you will make it 10 more years. Age 75, 
1 in 2 will last ten more years.   Age 80, 1 in 3 you will last 10 years.   At 
age 85, 3 in 20 will make it another 10 years. 
 Age 88, 1 in 20 living at age 88 will make it another 10 years, 
 ..cumulatively, most everyone else is gone before then.
 
 
 The die-off really starts to happen from about age 60. Very few actually make 
it to be older than age 85,  most are gone on by then. 
 

 
https://sites.google.com/site/ffhamfampage/our-company/bransonanalyticsageexpectancy
 

   -JaiGuruYou
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Currently, on average FF TM'ers would be.. of the Boomer II generation,
 ..about 65-70 years of age, on average. 
 

 1994, Survey of Fairfield Adult Meditators,
 Age:
 25-35 65 10%
 36-45 391 60%
 46-55 138 21%
 > 55 47 7%
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Rates of Change.  The calculus of aging in TM.. 
 

 Some of what we can see in these mortality lists of TM'ers below is a natural 
aging-out of the Post-War Cohort, the people who were early with Maharishi in 
the very early SRM movement,  the Walter Koch and Charlie Lutes generation of 
TM. 
 

 Now what we are seeing in TM is an accelerating rate of attrition to aging-out 
of the Boomer I and Boomer II’s.  Interestingly, the cusp time period where the 
Boomers I and Boomers II met was the time frame where TM took off in popular 
(college undergrad, grad student, professor-age) culture for a time.  A lot of 
the TM movement intake happened in those years 1968-76, over the cusp of the 
Boomers I and II.  The teaching of TM virtually disappeared during the 1980's, 
1990's and first half of the 00's.  Initiations have crept upward since y-2006. 
  
 

 You can see this particular cusp of Boomers I and II in the general age span 
in the Dome meditation or at campus meetings of the TM community now.  The WWII 
generation is pretty much gone from the ranks of TM now.  The Post-War Cohort 
are pretty gone or geriatric now and the Boomers I are increasingly shuffling 
or gone on.  Boomers II are increasingly ‘in diminish’.  Time is short 
regardless.  
 

 Post-War Cohort
 Born: 1928-1945
 Coming of Age: 1946-1963
 Age in 2004: 59 to 76
 Current Population: 41 million (declining)
 

 Boomers I or The Baby Boomers
 Born: 1946-1954
 Coming of Age: 1963-1972
 Age in 2004: 50-58
 Current Population: 33 million 
 

 

 Boomers II or Generation Jones
 Born: 1955-1965
 Coming of Age: 1973-1983
 Age in 2004: 39 to 49
 Current Population: 49 million
 

 

 

 For a long time the Baby Boomers were defined as those born between 1945 and 
1964. That would make the generation huge (71 million) and encompass people who 
were 20 years apart in age. It didn't compute to have those born in 1964 
compared with those born in 1946.
 

 http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm 
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation2.htm
 

 [  For researching,
 
   Scroll further down thru 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I thought his lowest point occurred when he said that women who get illegal 
abortions should be punished. As if having an abortion for most women, isn't 
bad enough! I bet he was trying to court the Tea Party fanatics.  




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[FairfieldLife] Can This Guy Stoop Any Lower?

2016-04-05 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/report-trump-says-hell-fund-wall-by-cutting-remittances/2016/04/05/7330b7bc-fb23-11e5-813a-90ab563f0dde_story.html
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How could it have got to be so bad with the numbers in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, 
there quite evidently has been a failure of an administration of the 
meditation, a failure that affected people's feelings about coming out for the 
communal collective meditation. This is going to take a change in leadership 
culture to re-group the collapse of the Dome group TM meditation program.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MMY: "This is what happens in the Golden Domes,
 a wave of infinity spreads from one end of the Dome to the other end. But the 
wave is not constrained by the walls. It permeates the whole collective 
conscious ~the whole field of unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here 
for. And as the group gets larger and larger, your experience will become more 
profound." -July 2006, MMY inaugurating the Invincible America Assembly
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The movement’s administrative guidelines for the group meditation should be 
such that all of the guidelines can be put on to a web page, publicly for 
anyone to read.  If that can’t be done then there is something wrong with the 
guidelines or the persons holding them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The guidelines for the Dome meditation could be much streamlined down to what 
it essentially takes to administrate a course.  It is fair that there be 
guidelines for the running of any organization, meeting or course.  But these 
go beyond practicality. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The movement’s guidelines as they exist essentially are tools of retribution 
that for decades have driven a whole movement of meditators away.  
 

 It will take some large leadership to change that.  Their problem now is that 
this has gone on so long and the hurt enough that people have gone on, don’t 
care, and will not come back. It would take a large mediation to turn this 
around and have meditators come back to the Domes.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A large barrier to world peace here is the administrative guidelines 
themselves that are employed to interrogate and discipline old TM teachers as a 
gatekeeping to the group meditation. There is a judgement and retributive edge 
in there, a vindictiveness held in the guidelines that is of a stiffness in the 
business of the minds of some people in charge of the movement that has long 
thwarted the group meditation.  It is a cultural problem deep inside TM.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 At the level of the practitioner it can all feel too much like going in to an 
interview with a McCarthy committee or the old East German police as someone 
starts an application for a Dome meditation badge.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That is funny. Taping Rick's thesis to the doors?   In these times it would be 
scotch taping a thesis to the glass Dome doors or pinning them
 on the walls nearby the doors where people read 
 announcements as they come and go in to the Domes.
 

 " ..the historicity of the hammer blows of Wittenberg. In fact, the door of 
the Castle Church did serve as the official university bulletin board and was 
regularly used for exactly the kind of announcement Luther made when he called 
for a public disputation on indulgences.   But whether the event happened at 
two o'clock in the afternoon--or at all--is not the point. Copies of Luther's 
theses were soon distributed by humanist scholars all over Europe. Within just 
a few weeks, an obscure Augustinian monk in a backwater university town had 
become a household name and was the subject of chatter from Lisbon to 
Lithuania."
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Someone could nail Rick's old message to the University door.:-) 

 Reformation Day: Did Martin Luther really nail 95 theses on the castle door? 
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/10/reformation_day_did_martin_lut.html 
 
 http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/10/reformation_day_did_martin_lut.html
 
 Reformation Day: Did Martin Luther really nail 95 theses... 
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/10/reformation_day_did_martin_lut.html 
Millions of Christians still celebrate Oct. 31 as the symbolic beginning of the 
Protestant Reformation.


 
 View on www.al.com 
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2014/10/reformation_day_did_martin_lut.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Are the three Drs. at the top of TM 15 years too late?  
 

 

 15 years ago as FairfieldLife at Yahoo-groups was born as a sounding board for 
the larger meditating community it was said then:
 

 

 Rick Archer wrote then on Sept 14, 2001:
 

 I’ve love to see a public announcement like the following from the Department 
of the Development of Consciousness (the people who giv

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Collective Meditation' and the Global Assembly in Antalya, Turkey > update

2016-04-05 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Serving at the front. Hiring a 'replacement' for a communal mobilization, a 
draft, to serve the community is old in the American tradition. The upper class 
did this in the War of the Rebellion to get out of their duty responsibility 
then. 
  Donating 19 Euros a day to fill your place is quite doable. A credit card is 
all it takes to be of credit in this initiative. Volunteer Now!   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ..This, he said, can be effectively done by those who by long practice of 
meditation and various spiritual disciplines, had gained the privilege of being 
nearer to the seat of divine power and mercy. The saints .. therefore were in 
duty-bound to intercede on behalf of the people and invoke the grace of gods to 
alleviate human suffering."  -MMY
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 !Hire a replacement meditator for the group if you can't go! 19 Euros a day. 
That is incredibly cheap. It would seem that some of the old meditator retirees 
here who are quite able to go on cruises and fancy bicycle trips to exotic 
places could support this.

 

 Particularly the awake ones.  

 

We are actively seeking funding. We currently have a list of about 20 Sidhas 
who could come immediately as sponsorships become available.
 

 Join the Antalya Assembly this spring for 19 EUR per day
 http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/ 
http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/  


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In meditating here folks practically take what is essential and useful for 
themselves from the collective meditation as practitioners and maybe do help 
the collective effect by being there too.   
 Despite the aversions of the movement the meditating group as a collective 
meditation is a nice activated place to meditate.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fear is an odd energy in the program.  The movement made liars of the TM 
community all around.   For instance last summer in Chicago seeing Ammachi, 
quite a lot of Fairfield was there and some people were saying, ‘don’t tell 
anyone you saw me here, I am in the Dome on the Assembly grant...’ 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Has Bevan had his meditation checked lately? It is all too easy after 
meditating awhile and opening up a rich inner space, to spend TM time 
daydreaming and moving around laterally, without allowing the innocent 
repetition of the mantra to continue cleaning out the barriers to awakening. He 
needs to start meditating correctly. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We were told, urged at times by a colluding movement culture to just lie on 
the forms to stay or get in, skirting around the guidelines.  And people have, 
they lie all the time to get in or stay in and hope to not be found out or 
called on it by some apparatchik. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Abbu Bevan
 
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Global Assembly in Antalya, Turkey > update
 
 
   Some would say that terrorists took over the movement.
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, I could afford it! However , I get stressed -out being in a TMO 
environment. Just listening to TM speak winds me up. "It's such a joy..."," It 
would be good to..." Fuck that shit! I'd rather deal with terrorists!
 
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:29 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Global Assembly in Antalya, Turkey > update

 
   Room and Board?  20 USDollars a day?  Some of the spiritual old TM 
pensioners on this list could afford that.  Particularly the experienced ones 
who could be there with the group instead of just being holed up by themselves 
in far away places like Texas or California, lend their company to the 
energetic synergy of the group.   
 

 Join the Antalya Assembly this spring for 19 EUR per day 

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Word Peace Assembly is strategically located in Turkey, which is located 
between Syria, Iraq, Iran, Bulgaria, Greece, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, 
and has historically served as a bridge between Europe and Asia. It is key to 
creating peace in the Middle East.

 

 Look at the map location:
 Peace creating project in the Middle East 
http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/ 
 
 http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/
 
 Peace creating project in the Middle East 
http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/ The aim of the Middle East Peace 
Initiative is to establish a large group practicing Maharishis' Peace creating 
technologies in Turkey, to support pea...


 
 View on www.middleeastpeace... http://www.middleeastpeaceinitiative.org/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 This is a whole another level of activis

[FairfieldLife] DONOVAN IN ISRAEL

2016-04-05 Thread email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
TOGETHER WITH THE MUSIC GROUP 
>>UKULELES FOR PEACE<<  Young Jew & Arab KIDS
DONOVAN PLAYED IN TEL AVIV ISRAEL
ON 2/4/2016:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfjJQUc_sjQ
Donovan,'"Colors" ,Live,Tel-Aviv /Bat Yam ,2/4/2016 

   > JUST ENJOY  
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[FairfieldLife] Muslim tolerance?

2016-04-05 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Video in British English:
 

 
http://mvlehti.net/2016/04/04/video-vieraanvaraisuutta-lontoon-muslimikaupunginosassa/
 
http://mvlehti.net/2016/04/04/video-vieraanvaraisuutta-lontoon-muslimikaupunginosassa/