[FairfieldLife] Re: Allah wants ISIS to Retreat

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Islamic State’s triumphalist slogan: Remaining and Expanding (baqiya 
wa-tatamaddad). How, one may well ask, does a group that projected such 
unbounded confidence, .. adjust its message to less fortunate circumstances?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Let's hope they leave Mosul and go home.  IOW the jihadists can't fight the 
bombs dropping  on them from the sky.
 

 Allah Wants ISIS to Retreat 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/dd73acb6-3fca-3010-ad49-f64cce41ca61/ss_allah-wants-isis-to-retreat.html
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/dd73acb6-3fca-3010-ad49-f64cce41ca61/ss_allah-wants-isis-to-retreat.html
 
 Allah Wants ISIS to Retreat 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/dd73acb6-3fca-3010-ad49-f64cce41ca61/ss_allah-wants-isis-to-retreat.html
 “Why has the Islamic State lost some of the territories under its control? And 
why has it lost some of its leaders?” This was the headline of an article 
published l...


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From mail:   "Yes! And no shaming. but people must learn that they do have a 
responsibility-even a moral obligation- to do what they can, where they are, 
with what they have [-Teddy Roosevelt] "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Two weeks out from Election Day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human spirituality 
there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual well-being 
either individually or collectively and then other things we may do that 
degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that which 
is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 'sinful' 
which detract from it.  
 

 Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms. 
  
 It could well be constructed that in the least, the complacent position on 
meditation is just some ignorance of the science or some lack of discipline in 
practice and experience as these manifest and not sinning necessarily like in 
the sense of the religious jurisdiction of a Sharia law or a Papal inquisition. 
 We are just talking the spiritual here, like in the experience of 
transcendentalism here.  
 

 But then, in this construction when it might come to further considering those 
who would be false apostates out on the internet actively denying the science 
of meditation and even working at derailing those evident good works of 
meditation and its collective practice theirs under this spiritual construction 
would certainly become a moral failing simple, above the complacent, a type of 
serious crime against humanity's spirituality more than just misdemeanor, but 
rising to that of felony crime against humanity. [ ] 
  .. constructing the indictment.   -JaiGuruYou   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree.
 

 "The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,' they refer to a belief that the act is one 
prescribed by their set of values."
 

 People, even in the uniform world of a particular belief system have different 
values.
 

 Perhaps some of these we are born with, and some cultural, some indoctrinated.
 

 People who learn TM have a reason to learn, and even if they stick with the 
meditation, they may not share the values the TM movement holds dear, or 
believe everything the TM movement thinks they should.
 

 If consciousness is the ultimate reality, then it already permeates everything 
("infinity at every point"), everything is in its grip so meditating should not 
have any wide ranging effect but would be local with the organism, a person 
might be calmer.
 

 The evidence of wide ranging effects of meditation is not very convincing, and 
personal belief and spiritual hype is not evidence of efficacy. 
 

 Meditators and non-meditators hold widely divergent views. People who want 
Hillary for US President say it is a moral obligation to vote for her. The same 
for those who want Trump for President, a moral obligation to vote for him.
 

 And then there is Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, who also have supporters with 
different values.
 

 Meditation does not seem to alter these kinds of preferences, although the 
cultural environment of the TM movement might have an influence on some people, 
or their church and so on.
 

 Is it a moral obligation for you, whoever you are, to behave in the way I 
think you should? If you do, then by all means contact me and I will tell you 
what to do.
 

 After all, I am an Archon Angel sent here for just this purpose.
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:33 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 
   When someone tells me it is my "moral obligation" to do something, I reach 
for my revolver. Enough of such pontificating! If you want to go the dome and 
enjoy it, then by all means go, but don't be browbeaten by the "moral 
obligation" police. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 By e-mail to FFL,   "I agree.I also think it is ok to suggest to all 
meditators, meditators and all of old TM teachers, governors, Re-cert teachers, 
sidhas, old MIU alumni, MUM, MSAE, old Purusha and Mother Divine alumni, 
 that there is a moral obligation to attend the group meditations and dome as 
often as they can-and especially when we need it most." ..
 Let me apprise you, then: we intend, in spite of the rules of war, to attack 
this with meditation, this which appears nearly twice and a hundred times our 
strength, wherever we find it. Th

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This outreach is getting out of hand. 

 Wanna get some crowds.  Bring in Dr. Domash.  (-:
 

 Yea, 35 years ago if you wanted the women crowds. LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi through the Years
Lecture 1. The Early Days — Historic Footage
and Fascinating Anecdotes
Dr. Bill Sands, Dean, MUM College of Maharishi Vedic Science, with
Dr. Keith Wallace, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.
 Tuesday, Oct. 25, 8:00 PM 

[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa

[anon_alias]

Bring back Jerry Jarvis!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This outreach is getting out of hand. 

 Wanna get some crowds.  Bring in Dr. Domash.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi through the Years
Lecture 1. The Early Days — Historic Footage
and Fascinating Anecdotes
Dr. Bill Sands, Dean, MUM College of Maharishi Vedic Science, with
Dr. Keith Wallace, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.
 Tuesday, Oct. 25, 8:00 PM 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yep, some of these kids we will see become larger community organizers and 
some will get their MSW’s and either way be activists in life. Wow.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nice to hear.  Thanks for the report.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The presentation was by the kids. It was great. Jaw-dropping good.
 Incredibly high-order thinking
 on their feet throughout.
 By what is consciously called
 and self-identified,
 The generation of future leaders. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, "difficult demographics" is the relevant term, across the board I'd say. 

 We had a good shot at the apple.  Back in the day, world population was 3.6 
mil. That was the basis of the "World Plan".  Centers located all over.  But 
now the old guard is dying off, and we're not far behind.  
 

 "Perfect health in the direction of immortality." Not so much, I guess.
 

 But, I'm not complaining.  It got me out a funk.  (-:
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wondered the same thing on reading the title.
 If it was University age/level students it likely would be a more 
feisty/critical meeting.
 

 I am betting it will present what projects the school kids are doing for the 
good of society and the world.
 Apparently the school like the rest of education had gone over to more 
standard core curricula and testing but as with the general reaction going on 
in education to core-cirrc the school is now moving into project-based and 
critical-thinking learning. 
 

The journalist in me would have wanted to go see university students reflect. 
But I will go up there and see this one in a little while too.  The school is 
charting along with difficult demographics.   I would like to hear the update 
on how it is going.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm not sure I get it.  Refuse to accept what things the way they are?  TMO 
things,or on a altruistic note, the state of the world things? 

 But it is open to the public, so maybe it's the altruistic theme.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We Refuse to Accept Things the Way They Are
Maharishi School Students in Action: A Lively Panel Discussion with Our Next 
Generation of Leaders
Moderated by Ellen Akst Jones, Chair, Maharishi School
Board of Directors
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.
 Monday, Oct. 24, 8:00 PM

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Also, 
 a 2pm practice today for
 the communal sing
 of Handel's Messiah.
 51 N. Court Street
 Fairfield, Iowa
 23 October
 A No-badge meeting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 Progress on the Path to Global Raam Raj
Sunday, Oct. 23, 2:00 PM

 Inspiration from around the World, with Highlights from the Invincible America 
Assembly
Dr. Bevan Morris, DSCI (via Skype)
Prime Minister of the GCWP
International President of Maharishi Universities of Management
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-Sidhi ID.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Skeptics’ Night
Open Discussion with Community and Experts
on the Maharishi Effect
 Saturday, Oct. 22, 8:00 PM 

 Chair: Dr. David Orme-Johnson, Former Chair of MUM Psychology Dept.
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-SidhiSM ID.

 

 Saturday, Oct. 22, 1:30 PM
 Physics of the Maharishi Effect
How to Exploit Quantum Entanglement and Quantum Teleportation on a Massive Scale
Dr. John Hagelin, President of MUM
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Today, Friday, Oct. 21, 8:00 PM 
Behind-the-Scenes Adventures
Stories of Working for Maharishi in Mozambique and Israel
Vicki Alexander Herriott, JD, LLM, Chair, MUM Dept. of Management
Dr. Carolyn King, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators. 

 

 Thursday, Oct. 20, 8:00 PM
Your Brain In-Between Mantras
Silence Is the New Dynamism
Dr. Fred Travis, Chairman, MUM Department of Maharishi Vedic Science
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wednesday, Oct. 19, 8:00 PM 

Transcending in Myth & Literature  
Dr. Rhoda Orme-Johnson,  Former Chair of MUM Literature Department

 MUM campus, Dalby Hall. 
 

 Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Tuesday, Oct. 18, 8:00 PM 
What Is Real? What Is Not Real?
Maharishi 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Oct-16 00:15:20 UTC

[anon_alias]

You are thinking I should take time off from work to drive I-35 up to 
Fairfield, IA and hand a note to Doug, so I can join the dance at the dome? 

We already have a dome down here at Radiance, the TM Ideal Village and a dance 
floor at the Broken Spoke in Austin. What steps do I need to know, besides how 
to squat down and hop up, or get down on my hands and knees? Thanks.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I would encourage lurkers not to be wallflowers, using a messenger to send 
notes to the people who are actually out on the floor dancing, but to join the 
dance themselves. Please get off the sidelines and come and join us. We do not 
bite. (Well, OK, only occasionally.)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, could we have the English translation of that please? I don't get it, 
why do they have to send anything to you? Why can't they just post? Have you 
got everyone except the regular posters on moderation now?

And what the heck does "add a consideration" mean?
 
Sal 
 


 
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 7:27 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... 
[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 JaiGuruYou, anybody lurking FairfieldLife at Yahoo who would like to add a 
consideration to FFL subject threads can send an
 e-mail to the list owner for consideration.
 Send to:  dhamiltony2k5 'at' Yahoo.com http://Yahoo.com  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:ffl.postcount@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Oct-16 00:15:20 UTC

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Evidently so, people should be coming to Fairfield, Iowa to meditate right now. 
 Absolutely according to the power of some of the best of science now the gross 
numbers meditating in proximity is indeed an extremely highly correlated fact 
as to being positively transforming to the individual and for the collective.   
This is quite clear now in the weight of all the science even without cooking 
the data that those who would know better should not be complacent about their 
place in this.  Now, get in a car, ride the train, board an airliner and get to 
the collective meditation here fast as you can.  Fairfield, Iowa is legally an 
easy two days drive from Texas. It is 6 hours drive from St. Louis. Old 
meditators should not just sleep or sit this one out in retirement. We could 
all use your help now with this. -JaiGuruYou 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You are thinking I should take time off from work to drive I-35 up to 
Fairfield, IA and hand a note to Doug, so I can join the dance at the dome? 

We already have a dome down here at Radiance, the TM Ideal Village and a dance 
floor at the Broken Spoke in Austin. What steps do I need to know, besides how 
to squat down and hop up, or get down on my hands and knees? Thanks.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I would encourage lurkers not to be wallflowers, using a messenger to send 
notes to the people who are actually out on the floor dancing, but to join the 
dance themselves. Please get off the sidelines and come and join us. We do not 
bite. (Well, OK, only occasionally.)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, could we have the English translation of that please? I don't get it, 
why do they have to send anything to you? Why can't they just post? Have you 
got everyone except the regular posters on moderation now?

And what the heck does "add a consideration" mean?
 
Sal 
 


 
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 7:27 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... 
[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 JaiGuruYou, anybody lurking FairfieldLife at Yahoo who would like to add a 
consideration to FFL subject threads can send an
 e-mail to the list owner for consideration.
 Send to:  dhamiltony2k5 'at' Yahoo.com http://Yahoo.com  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:ffl.postcount@...> wrote :

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 10 Sal Sunshine salsunshineiniowa
 9 anon_alias 
 8 awoelflebater
 7 jr_esq
 7 authfriend
 7 Bhairitu noozguru
 6 j_alexander_stanley
 6 feste37 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Oct-16 00:15:20 UTC

[feste37]

No. I was referring to posting on FFL. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You are thinking I should take time off from work to drive I-35 up to 
Fairfield, IA and hand a note to Doug, so I can join the dance at the dome? 

We already have a dome down here at Radiance, the TM Ideal Village and a dance 
floor at the Broken Spoke in Austin. What steps do I need to know, besides how 
to squat down and hop up, or get down on my hands and knees? Thanks.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I would encourage lurkers not to be wallflowers, using a messenger to send 
notes to the people who are actually out on the floor dancing, but to join the 
dance themselves. Please get off the sidelines and come and join us. We do not 
bite. (Well, OK, only occasionally.)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, could we have the English translation of that please? I don't get it, 
why do they have to send anything to you? Why can't they just post? Have you 
got everyone except the regular posters on moderation now?

And what the heck does "add a consideration" mean?
 
Sal 
 


 
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 7:27 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... 
[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 JaiGuruYou, anybody lurking FairfieldLife at Yahoo who would like to add a 
consideration to FFL subject threads can send an
 e-mail to the list owner for consideration.
 Send to:  dhamiltony2k5 'at' Yahoo.com http://Yahoo.com  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:ffl.postcount@...> wrote :

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 9 anon_alias 
 8 awoelflebater
 7 jr_esq
 7 authfriend
 7 Bhairitu noozguru
 6 j_alexander_stanley
 6 feste37 
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 4 olliesedwuz
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[FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Nah, I think we got our Jerry update with the guy who channeled MMY, when he 
wasn't busy reflecting on all his past lives. 

 Larry would be a much bigger catch at this point.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bring back Jerry Jarvis!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This outreach is getting out of hand. 

 Wanna get some crowds.  Bring in Dr. Domash.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maharishi through the Years
Lecture 1. The Early Days — Historic Footage
and Fascinating Anecdotes
Dr. Bill Sands, Dean, MUM College of Maharishi Vedic Science, with
Dr. Keith Wallace, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.
 Tuesday, Oct. 25, 8:00 PM 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Yep, some of these kids we will see become larger community organizers and 
some will get their MSW’s and either way be activists in life. Wow.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nice to hear.  Thanks for the report.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The presentation was by the kids. It was great. Jaw-dropping good.
 Incredibly high-order thinking
 on their feet throughout.
 By what is consciously called
 and self-identified,
 The generation of future leaders. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, "difficult demographics" is the relevant term, across the board I'd say. 

 We had a good shot at the apple.  Back in the day, world population was 3.6 
mil. That was the basis of the "World Plan".  Centers located all over.  But 
now the old guard is dying off, and we're not far behind.  
 

 "Perfect health in the direction of immortality." Not so much, I guess.
 

 But, I'm not complaining.  It got me out a funk.  (-:
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wondered the same thing on reading the title.
 If it was University age/level students it likely would be a more 
feisty/critical meeting.
 

 I am betting it will present what projects the school kids are doing for the 
good of society and the world.
 Apparently the school like the rest of education had gone over to more 
standard core curricula and testing but as with the general reaction going on 
in education to core-cirrc the school is now moving into project-based and 
critical-thinking learning. 
 

The journalist in me would have wanted to go see university students reflect. 
But I will go up there and see this one in a little while too.  The school is 
charting along with difficult demographics.   I would like to hear the update 
on how it is going.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm not sure I get it.  Refuse to accept what things the way they are?  TMO 
things,or on a altruistic note, the state of the world things? 

 But it is open to the public, so maybe it's the altruistic theme.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We Refuse to Accept Things the Way They Are
Maharishi School Students in Action: A Lively Panel Discussion with Our Next 
Generation of Leaders
Moderated by Ellen Akst Jones, Chair, Maharishi School
Board of Directors
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.
 Monday, Oct. 24, 8:00 PM

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Also, 
 a 2pm practice today for
 the communal sing
 of Handel's Messiah.
 51 N. Court Street
 Fairfield, Iowa
 23 October
 A No-badge meeting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 Progress on the Path to Global Raam Raj
Sunday, Oct. 23, 2:00 PM

 Inspiration from around the World, with Highlights from the Invincible America 
Assembly
Dr. Bevan Morris, DSCI (via Skype)
Prime Minister of the GCWP
International President of Maharishi Universities of Management
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-Sidhi ID.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Skeptics’ Night
Open Discussion with Community and Experts
on the Maharishi Effect
 Saturday, Oct. 22, 8:00 PM 

 Chair: Dr. David Orme-Johnson, Former Chair of MUM Psychology Dept.
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-SidhiSM ID.

 

 Saturday, Oct. 22, 1:30 PM
 Physics of the Maharishi Effect
How to Exploit Quantum Entanglement and Quantum Teleportation on a Massive Scale
Dr. John Hagelin, President of MUM
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Today, Friday, Oct. 21, 8:00 PM 
Behind-the-Scenes Adventures
Stories of Working for Maharishi in Mozambique and Israel
Vicki Alexander Herriott, JD, LLM, Chair, MUM Dept. of Management
Dr. Carolyn King, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators. 

 

 Thursday, Oct. 20, 8:00 PM
Your Brain In-Between Mantras
Silence Is the New Dynamism
Dr. Fred Travis, Chairman, MUM Department of Maharishi Vedic Science
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wednesday, Oct. 19, 8:00 PM 

Transcending in Myth & Literature  
Dr. Rhoda Orme-Johnson,  Former

[FairfieldLife] Fw: An Important Message to the Fairfield/MVC Community

[Doug Hamilton dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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| An Important Message to
 the Fairfield/Maharishi
 Vedic City Community |

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|  Please see important P.P.S. at the bottom!Dear Sidhas and Governors of 
Fairfield,The atmosphere in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City is much 
enlivened these days with the influx of Sidhas and Governors from around the 
country — and even from other countries — who have come to join us in creating 
coherence in national consciousness during this unusually turbulent election 
period. Wherever we meet them, in the Domes or the square or the supermarkets, 
let’s give them such a warm welcome that they won’t want to leave our oasis of 
happiness.The extra numbers in the flying halls remind us of all those times 
when the Domes were overflowing, and we just felt invincible and blissful 
despite whatever was going on in the world. You’ve probably heard from friends 
that, recently, many in our community are re-discovering group program. They’re 
experiencing anew that special light feeling as you walk out of the Dome after 
program.The current elections are crucial to the future of our nation in many 
ways. It is not just the executive; it is all three branches of government 
which hang in the balance. Let’s use the powerful technology of group program 
that Maharishi gave us to ensure the best possible outcome for the whole 
country.The evidence for the Maharishi Effect continues to mount up. Another 
compelling, new study came out in February of this year, again based on 
publicly available statistics. This is a scientific breakthrough that outstrips 
all others in its power to do good for ourselves, our nation, and our world.Jai 
Guru DevRaja John HagelinP.S. I want to be clear that as a non-profit 
organization, we do not support any one candidate over any other candidate. 
Natural Law, when enlivened by our group practice, will support the best 
outcome for the nation.P.P.S. This does not mean that we, as individuals, do 
not support specific candidates. We do. And we should be sure to exercise our 
civic duty and vote for the candidates we believe will serve the nation in the 
most evolutionary way. |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Taste of Utopia Course 1983, MIU, Old movement photos

[X Y medinijyotishacc...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Second call, no takers yet.
Someone must have photos out there!!
[Doug?]


On Monday, October 24, 2016 5:44 PM, "medinijyotishacc...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 

     Dear friends,
As the year draws to a close and we look to the start of 2017, I notice that 
2018 will bring the 35th anniversary of the Taste of Utopia Assembly of 1983. I 
know there are many here with fond memories of that time (looking over the old 
photos the excitement is palpable! Also faces were younger back then... ;)
For the anniversary I have been thinking of putting together a commemorative 
video to celebrate those days [the lead-up to Taste of Utopia, the course 
itself and generally the 1980s at MIU] and uploading it to youtube for all to 
enjoy. Obviously it is a huge task and has to fit in around work, so I am 
starting it well in advance.
Sadly I have very few photographs from that time and so I thought maybe friends 
here could help me out with the raw materials! So if anybody has photographs, 
video, old brochures and magazines, yearbooks/lists of course participants, TTC 
photos from around the 70s and 80s, or even would like to send me written 
recollections of the time/get interviewed, I would be deeply grateful.

Also if anyone has a high-resolution photograph of the 7000 participants in 
front of the dome (I know there are low-res ones out there but I'd love to pan 
across it so the faces are visible) that would also be very good.

If you can make contact with old friends and ask them too that would be very 
helpful! 

Best regards,
borisbyalniko...@gmail.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: An Important Message to the Fairfield/MVC Community

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

[paste..

 Please see important P.P.S. at the bottom! 

 ...
 

 P.S. I want to be clear that as a non-profit organization, we do not support 
any one candidate over any other candidate.  Natural Law, when enlivened by our 
group practice, will support the best outcome for the nation.


 

 P.P.S. This does not mean that we, as individuals, do not support specific 
candidates. We do. And we should be sure to exercise our civic duty and vote 
for the candidates we believe will serve the nation in the most evolutionary 
way.

 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 

 

 
 VIEW EMAIL WITH IMAGES 
http://campaigns.tm.org/app/crm/marketing/campaignlistener.nl?__lstr=__cl&c=819023&__h=fe020297caf66b73d023&__r=26175684&eou=aHR0cDovL2NvbW11bmljYXRpb25zLnRtLm9yZy8yMDE2LzIwMTZfMTBfMjFfUkpITWVzc2FnZS1GRi0yLmh0bWw*&_od=aHR0cHM6Ly9mb3Jtcy5uZXRzdWl0ZS5jb20*
 Office of the National Director OCTOBER 22, 2016
 
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 An Important Message to
 the Fairfield/Maharishi
 Vedic City Community
 
 Please see important P.P.S. at the bottom!
 Dear Sidhas and Governors of Fairfield,
 The atmosphere in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City is much enlivened these 
days with the influx of Sidhas and Governors from around the country — and even 
from other countries — who have come to join us in creating coherence in 
national consciousness during this unusually turbulent election period. 
Wherever we meet them, in the Domes or the square or the supermarkets, let’s 
give them such a warm welcome that they won’t want to leave our oasis of 
happiness.
 The extra numbers in the flying halls remind us of all those times when the 
Domes were overflowing, and we just felt invincible and blissful despite 
whatever was going on in the world. You’ve probably heard from friends that, 
recently, many in our community are re-discovering group program. They’re 
experiencing anew that special light feeling as you walk out of the Dome after 
program.
 The current elections are crucial to the future of our nation in many ways. It 
is not just the executive; it is all three branches of government which hang in 
the balance. Let’s use the powerful technology of group program that Maharishi 
gave us to ensure the best possible outcome for the whole country.
 The evidence for the Maharishi Effect continues to mount up. Another 
compelling, new study came out in February of this year, again based on 
publicly available statistics. This is a scientific breakthrough that outstrips 
all others in its power to do good for ourselves, our nation, and our world.
 Jai Guru Dev
 Raja John Hagelin
 P.S. I want to be clear that as a non-profit organization, we do not support 
any one candidate over any other candidate. Natural Law, when enlivened by our 
group practice, will support the best outcome for the nation.
 P.P.S. This does not mean that we, as individuals, do not support specific 
candidates. We do. And we should be sure to exercise our civic duty and vote 
for the candidates we believe will serve the nation in the most evolutionary 
way.
 © 2016 Maharishi Foundation USA, a non-profit educational organization. All 
rights reserved.
 Transcendental Meditation® and TM® are protected trademarks
 and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission.
 
   
 
 
 






 
 
 



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Taste of Utopia Course 1983, MIU, Old movement photos

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Photos of TOU '83..
 

 Sometimes e-mail addresses get filtered in a way that get chopped or trunked 
within the Yahoo way of doing groups.  I think that happened the first time you 
posted.
 It seems to work more reliably to write out your e-mail address avoiding the 
hyperlinking if you wish a response direct to your own e-mail. I see your 
address now in your reply to the original. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second call, no takers yet.
 

 Someone must have photos out there!!
 

 [Doug?]

 
 


 On Monday, October 24, 2016 5:44 PM, "medinijyotishacc...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:

 

   
 Dear friends,
 

 As the year draws to a close and we look to the start of 2017, I notice that 
2018 will bring the 35th anniversary of the Taste of Utopia Assembly of 1983. I 
know there are many here with fond memories of that time (looking over the old 
photos the excitement is palpable! Also faces were younger back then... ;)
 

 For the anniversary I have been thinking of putting together a commemorative 
video to celebrate those days [the lead-up to Taste of Utopia, the course 
itself and generally the 1980s at MIU] and uploading it to youtube for all to 
enjoy. Obviously it is a huge task and has to fit in around work, so I am 
starting it well in advance.
 

 Sadly I have very few photographs from that time and so I thought maybe 
friends here could help me out with the raw materials! So if anybody has 
photographs, video, old brochures and magazines, yearbooks/lists of course 
participants, TTC photos from around the 70s and 80s, or even would like to 
send me written recollections of the time/get interviewed, I would be deeply 
grateful.

 

 Also if anyone has a high-resolution photograph of the 7000 participants in 
front of the dome (I know there are low-res ones out there but I'd love to pan 
across it so the faces are visible) that would also be very good.

 

 If you can make contact with old friends and ask them too that would be very 
helpful! 

 

 Best regards,
 

 Boris
 byalniko...@gmail.com
 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

More by e-mail to FFL on complacency.. 

 # 

 I agree that there is a moral obligation to attend the dome as often as one 
can-and especially when we need it most- 

There are those who could go who choose not to.There are those who have the 
time and wherewithal that decide to do other things at group practice 
times.There are those who may be considered complacent in so far as they know 
the value of group practice and yet do not go to the dome. Even a brief look 
back at the sacrifices previous generations made for our country would give us 
pause when we see we have become complacent in our duty.  
 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From mail:   "Yes! And no shaming. but people must learn that they do have a 
responsibility-even a moral obligation- to do what they can, where they are, 
with what they have [-Teddy Roosevelt] "
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Two weeks out from Election Day.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human spirituality 
there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual well-being 
either individually or collectively and then other things we may do that 
degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that which 
is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 'sinful' 
which detract from it.  
 

 Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms. 
  
 It could well be constructed that in the least, the complacent position on 
meditation is just some ignorance of the science or some lack of discipline in 
practice and experience as these manifest and not sinning necessarily like in 
the sense of the religious jurisdiction of a Sharia law or a Papal inquisition. 
 We are just talking the spiritual here, like in the experience of 
transcendentalism here.  
 

 But then, in this construction when it might come to further considering those 
who would be false apostates out on the internet actively denying the science 
of meditation and even working at derailing those evident good works of 
meditation and its collective practice theirs under this spiritual construction 
would certainly become a moral failing simple, above the complacent, a type of 
serious crime against humanity's spirituality more than just misdemeanor, but 
rising to that of felony crime against humanity. [ ] 
  .. constructing the indictment.   -JaiGuruYou   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree.
 

 "The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,' they refer to a belief that the act is one 
prescribed by their set of values."
 

 People, even in the uniform world of a particular belief system have different 
values.
 

 Perhaps some of these we are born with, and some cultural, some indoctrinated.
 

 People who learn TM have a reason to learn, and even if they stick with the 
meditation, they may not share the values the TM movement holds dear, or 
believe everything the TM movement thinks they should.
 

 If consciousness is the ultimate reality, then it already permeates everything 
("infinity at every point"), everything is in its grip so meditating should not 
have any wide ranging effect but would be local with the organism, a person 
might be calmer.
 

 The evidence of wide ranging effects of meditation is not very convincing, and 
personal belief and spiritual hype is not evidence of efficacy. 
 

 Meditators and non-meditators hold widely divergent views. People who want 
Hillary for US President say it is a moral obligation to vote for her. The same 
for those who want Trump for President, a moral obligation to vote for him.
 

 And then there is Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, who also have supporters with 
different values.
 

 Meditation does not seem to alter these kinds of preferences, although the 
cultural environment of the TM movement might have an influence on some people, 
or their church and so on.
 

 Is it a moral obligation for you, whoever you are, to behave in the way I 
think you should? If you do, then by all means contact me and I will tell you 
what to do.
 

 After all, I am an Archon Angel sent here for just this purpose.
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:33 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 
   When someone tells me it is my "moral obligation" to do something, I reach 
for my revolver. Enough of such pontificating! If you want to go the dome and 
enjoy it, then by all means go,

[FairfieldLife] The World is based on Consciousness

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is another way of saying the world is based on information.  Hence, the 
world is a simulation like in a gigantic computer screen.   What is the proof?  
The dual nature of light as a particle and a wave.  This nature of light shows 
that the world is not deterministic since light is not a particle in the strict 
sense.  Since light is also a wave, it means that the world is based on 
probabilities.  Thus, consciousness is needed to determine these probabilities. 
 Here's a an explanation of the light experiment, as explained by Tom Campbell, 
a former TMer:
 

 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (from Spokane) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 
 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ "In the early 1900's, physicists 
understood the nature of Reality better then than they do now." In this excerpt 
from the May 2014 Spokane workshop, T...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Black Female Trump Supporter Leaves News Anchors SPEECHLESS

[wleed3 wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife]]

--- Begin Message ---
*Please listen to this black female lawyer from Chicagowell worth the
time.*



You’ve heard it said “tell it like it is”. You will not hear it in a
more convincing way. If you are moved by this person forward this email to
as many people as you can think of [after deleting the above recipients].
Then vote your conscience!


http://blakpac.com/blog/2016/10/7/black-female-trump-
supporter-leaves-news-anchors-speechless








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Taste of Utopia Course 1983, MIU, Old movement photos

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thx, Jerry J. has tons of photos but he hasn't shared them with anybody yet.
 

 OTOH, some of the posts here suggest that one can memorialize and mentally 
live in the past, (say the late 60's and early 70's).  Nopeas a Movement, 
the yearly initiation stats point to a virtually dead organization.
 Excessive immersion in reflecting on the good old days can sometimes be 
considered abnormal, especially if it interferes with current activity.  In 
Scientology, this is called "being stuck on the time track".  If Drs. Wallace, 
Hagelin, and others are in that category, there's an easy cure:  the e-meter.
 

 What is Auditing? 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html

 
 
 What is Auditing? 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html
 Although the purely philosophical aspects of L. Ron Hubbards work are 
sufficient in themselves to elevate this civilization, only auditing provides a 
precise path by which any individual may walk an exact route to higher states 
of spiritual  awareness.
 
 
 
 View on www.scientology.org 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

[FairfieldLife] Emma Hardinge Britten

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Featuring Emma Hardinge Britten, (1823 - 1899).  Born in London, came to the 
U.S. and lived in New York.
 Was a strong advocate for Abe Lincoln.
 She was one of the most important Spiritualists of the 19-th century, and can 
be considered a predecessor to Madame Blavatsky.
 

 

 http://tinyurl.com/zxsyuyd http://tinyurl.com/zxsyuyd
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The World is based on Consciousness

[anon_alias]

DNA analysis contains all the information in the entire cosmos.

There are two ways to prove that the world is based on information: common 
sense and logical inference. Common sense tells us that wherever there is an 
action there is a reaction - cause nd effect. What goes up must come down - 
human excrement always flows downstream. 

Since we are conscious, we infer that we really exist, because without 
consciousness, there would be no perception. So we logically infer that 
consciousness is the ultimate reality. 

According to Harris, if consciousness means self-consciousness, then it cannot 
be identified by logic with the human body. Animals also possess a physical 
body, but not rational consciousness.  

If consciousness is a property of the body, it must be perceived like other 
material properties. But consciousness is neither seen, smelt or tasted nor 
touched nor heard.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is another way of saying the world is based on information.  Hence, the 
world is a simulation like in a gigantic computer screen.   What is the proof?  
The dual nature of light as a particle and a wave.  This nature of light shows 
that the world is not deterministic since light is not a particle in the strict 
sense.  Since light is also a wave, it means that the world is based on 
probabilities.  Thus, consciousness is needed to determine these probabilities. 
 Here's a an explanation of the light experiment, as explained by Tom Campbell, 
a former TMer:
 

 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (from Spokane) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ
 
 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ "In the early 1900's, physicists 
understood the nature of Reality better then than they do now." In this excerpt 
from the May 2014 Spokane workshop, T...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Oct-16 00:15:20 UTC

[anon_alias]

It seems to me that the ME would have more direct effect if it originated from 
The Center of the Universe, in the Maharishi Golden Dome at Radiance, Texas. 
YMMV.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :  Now, get in a 
car, ride the train, board an airliner and get to the collective meditation 
here fast as you can.  Fairfield, Iowa is legally an easy two days drive from 
Texas. It is 6 hours drive from St. Louis. Old meditators should not just sleep 
or sit this one out in retirement. We could all use your help now with this. 
-JaiGuruYou 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You are thinking I should take time off from work to drive I-35 up to 
Fairfield, IA and hand a note to Doug, so I can join the dance at the dome? 

We already have a dome down here at Radiance, the TM Ideal Village and a dance 
floor at the Broken Spoke in Austin. What steps do I need to know, besides how 
to squat down and hop up, or get down on my hands and knees? Thanks.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I would encourage lurkers not to be wallflowers, using a messenger to send 
notes to the people who are actually out on the floor dancing, but to join the 
dance themselves. Please get off the sidelines and come and join us. We do not 
bite. (Well, OK, only occasionally.)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, could we have the English translation of that please? I don't get it, 
why do they have to send anything to you? Why can't they just post? Have you 
got everyone except the regular posters on moderation now?

And what the heck does "add a consideration" mean?
 
Sal 
 


 
 On Oct 25, 2016, at 7:27 PM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... 
[FairfieldLife] mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 JaiGuruYou, anybody lurking FairfieldLife at Yahoo who would like to add a 
consideration to FFL subject threads can send an
 e-mail to the list owner for consideration.
 Send to:  dhamiltony2k5 'at' Yahoo.com http://Yahoo.com  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:ffl.postcount@...> wrote :

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[FairfieldLife] Chan Master Hsu Yun

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

or Xu Hun, (1840 - 1959), became Enlightened at age 56 (he says in his 
autobiography), and he wrote this poem to commemorate the event: (Wiki)
 

 "A cup fell to the ground,
 with a sound clearly heard,
 As space was pulverized,
 The mad mind came to a stop".
 

 Shown here with Hsuan Hua on the right (1918 - 1995), my first Buddhist 
teacher.
 

 

 http://tinyurl.com/hwcqtx7 http://tinyurl.com/hwcqtx7
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Oct-16 00:15:20 UTC

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thx RichardIf I visit the Golden Dome in Radiance, I expect you to give me 
a grand tour. Didn't know that place existed!  (need more domes like it)...
 

 'http://radiancetx.org/nandkishore1985-1/
 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Radiance Tx Golden Dome

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

url didn't come up.  Try this one:
 

 http://www.radiancetx.org http://www.radiancetx.org
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I meditate all the time, and more often than most TM meditators, it has a 
goodly effect. 
Meditation reveals certain oddities about the nature of the universe from the 
level of experience. 
I would say the the illusion aspect of maya, and the consequent 
misunderstanding of the nature of spiritual life lasts all the way to Brahman 
consciousness, at which point maya begins to retreat. 
Most people seem to assume this happens near the beginning of practice of TM 
but the misunderstanding of the nature of self and the world lasts through all 
the states and we become capable of correcting the mistake of the intellect 
only at the end.
Because until then we did not know what it really was.
The word used for sin in the Bible means literally to miss the mark. The word 
sin in English comes from a root word meaning guilty. Actions performed when 
feeling guilty are stressful.
Using the term sin to coerce people to do something that they spontaneously do 
not do, such as vote or even meditate might have adverse effects if in fact 
what the person does contrary to another's desire is really spontaneous. 
Most people in the world do not naturally meditate, they have to come to it 
somehow, and understand by experience its value, and only then will they 
naturally continue with it.
The TM org is considered hostile by some so these people might avoid doing what 
the org wants.
Meditation eventually develops spontaneity, but spontaneity means you cannot 
predict what will happen, you cannot predict what a spontaneous person acting 
within the framework of nature's laws will do.
They do not act on individual whim, it's nature's spontaneity to do or not to 
do.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human 
spirituality there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual 
well-being either individually or collectively and then other things we may do 
that degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that 
which is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 
'sinful' which detract from it.  
Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms.   It could well be constructed that in the least, the complacent 
position on meditation is just some ignorance of the science or some lack of 
discipline in practice and experience as these manifest and not sinning 
necessarily like in the sense of the religious jurisdiction of a Sharia law or 
a Papal inquisition.  We are just talking the spiritual here, like in the 
experience of transcendentalism here.  
But then, in this construction when it might come to further considering those 
who would be false apostates out on the internet actively denying the science 
of meditation and even working at derailing those evident good works of 
meditation and its collective practice theirs under this spiritual construction 
would certainly become a moral failing simple, above the complacent, a type of 
serious crime against humanity's spirituality more than just misdemeanor, but 
rising to that of felony crime against humanity. [ ]  .. constructing the 
indictment.   -JaiGuruYou   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I agree.
"The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,' they refer to a belief that the act is one 
prescribed by their set of values."
People, even in the uniform world of a particular belief system have different 
values.
Perhaps some of these we are born with, and some cultural, some indoctrinated.
People who learn TM have a reason to learn, and even if they stick with the 
meditation, they may not share the values the TM movement holds dear, or 
believe everything the TM movement thinks they should.
If consciousness is the ultimate reality, then it already permeates everything 
("infinity at every point"), everything is in its grip so meditating should not 
have any wide ranging effect but would be local with the organism, a person 
might be calmer.
The evidence of wide ranging effects of meditation is not very convincing, and 
personal belief and spiritual hype is not evidence of efficacy. 
Meditators and non-meditators hold widely divergent views. People who want 
Hillary for US President say it is a moral obligation to vote for her. The same 
for those who want Trump for President, a moral obligation to vote for him.
And then there is Jill Stein and Ga

Re: [FairfieldLife] Taste of Utopia Course 1983, MIU, Old movement photos

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Not stuck but actually, both Hagelin and Wallace are living for the future. It 
was really noteworthy to see the staging of Bevan's yielding
 on Founder's Day.
 

   Actually they both have been in it and stayed at it for the future of where 
it can go. 
 “There will be a time coming when it can change.”
 They both consciously worked and telegraphed that idea around in a meeting 
with the meditating community in town back in 2004. 
 notes: 7.29.04 all meditator/sidha open meeting at public library 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/31817 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/31817
 

 Both Hagelin and Wallace have very strategically been in it for the long run. 
This is large dharma for them. They are up to it now.  

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 OTOH, some of the posts here suggest that one can memorialize and mentally 
live in the past, (say the late 60's and early 70's).  Nopeas a Movement, 
the yearly initiation stats point to a virtually dead organization.
 Excessive immersion in reflecting on the good old days can sometimes be 
considered abnormal, especially if it interferes with current activity.  In 
Scientology, this is called "being stuck on the time track".  If Drs. Wallace, 
Hagelin, and others are in that category, there's an easy cure:  the e-meter.
 

 What is Auditing? 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html

 
 
 What is Auditing? 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html
 Although the purely philosophical aspects of L. Ron Hubbards work are 
sufficient in themselves to elevate this civilization, only auditing provides a 
precise path by which any individual may walk an exact route to higher states 
of spiritual  awareness.


 
 View on www.scientology.org 
https://www.scientology.org/what-is-scientology/the-practice-of-scientology/auditing-in-scientology.html
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  



  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He most certainly did.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Did Maharishi really say that eating peanuts dulls the mind?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Aggregating Questions.. 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Some other questions.. sent through to FFL by e-mail:

 

 In order for TMO to thrive and 

 continue being a force for good
 in the world, how "transparent"
 do the panel members think it
 should be: 100%, 50%, something else?
 

 PS I would be grateful if the topic of 

 transparency could be addressed
 before any other questions
 are entertained.

 

 #
Is it the central purpose of [Global Country of World Peace [GCWP] to simply 
act as one of a myriad of movement tax shelters for the "non-profit" world of 
the wealthy? 

 

  
 #
 Someone else asks:
 Why is the US Brahmasthan being ignored by admin?

 

 #
 

 Who currently owns the Brahmasthan of America?
 Does it have a Board of Trustee?
Who is on the Brahmasthan of America Board of Trustees?

 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 Did TM money bail him out and pay his legal fees?
 

 #
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  
 Will "transcending" it make people richer?.
 
 Will "transcending" curing diseases?
 Will it extend one's lifespan?

 #
 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?

 #
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A panel coming up this week
 is looking for tough questions...
 

 [ Reply to this FFL post or lurkers can send other Q's you'd like to ask 
straight to the FFL list owner at:
 dhamiltony2k5 at yahoo.com   ]  The FFL list owner also has some channels to 
submit questions on
 up the chain.,, 
 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Anybody have questions of the TM movement to ask?
 

 Where is Dr. Pete?  He had particular question about
 the research.  
 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 

 Other Q's people have?
 

 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 
 How about curing diseases?
 

 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?
 

 Yifuxero writes:
 I'm skeptical of the rationale and underlying assumptions..
 Would one of the conclusions be "Transcending will make you happy and TM is 
the preferred method of transcending".  OK fine...let's see some evidence.
 Likewise, with the other claims.
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 How about curing diseases?
 Make some real substantial claims followed by some good uncooked data; with 
perhaps a few citations of peer reviewed research by somebody outside of the 
TMO or MUM.
 If the claims are true, people in vast numbers should be flocking to a 
practice that has specified benefits.
 Will "transcending" help one in the midst of a Zombie Apocalypse?
 
 Will it extend one's lifespan?  (doesn't look like it in view of the stats 
coming from FF)
 

 Send Your Q's.. 
 I will aggregate Q’s from FFL and forward them on to the panel
 for the October 28th Meeting.
 

 Respond to this post/thread.
 

 Or,
 

 Anyone reading FFL but unable to post to FairfieldLife who have questions they 
would like asked
 Can send them to: 
 
 fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com
 

 I can include those too of the FFL lurkers,  
 

 -JaiGuruYou


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Did Maharishi really say that eating peanuts dulls the mind?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Aggregating Questions.. 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Some other questions.. sent through to FFL by e-mail:

 

 In order for TMO to thrive and 

 continue being a force for good
 in the world, how "transparent"
 do the panel members think it
 should be: 100%, 50%, something else?
 

 PS I would be grateful if the topic of 

 transparency could be addressed
 before any other questions
 are entertained.

 

 #
Is it the central purpose of [Global Country of World Peace [GCWP] to simply 
act as one of a myriad of movement tax shelters for the "non-profit" world of 
the wealthy? 

 

  
 #
 Someone else asks:
 Why is the US Brahmasthan being ignored by admin?

 

 #
 

 Who currently owns the Brahmasthan of America?
 Does it have a Board of Trustee?
Who is on the Brahmasthan of America Board of Trustees?

 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 Did TM money bail him out and pay his legal fees?
 

 #
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  
 Will "transcending" it make people richer?.
 
 Will "transcending" curing diseases?
 Will it extend one's lifespan?

 #
 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?

 #
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A panel coming up this week
 is looking for tough questions...
 

 [ Reply to this FFL post or lurkers can send other Q's you'd like to ask 
straight to the FFL list owner at:
 dhamiltony2k5 at yahoo.com   ]  The FFL list owner also has some channels to 
submit questions on
 up the chain.,, 
 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Anybody have questions of the TM movement to ask?
 

 Where is Dr. Pete?  He had particular question about
 the research.  
 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 

 Other Q's people have?
 

 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 
 How about curing diseases?
 

 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?
 

 Yifuxero writes:
 I'm skeptical of the rationale and underlying assumptions..
 Would one of the conclusions be "Transcending will make you happy and TM is 
the preferred method of transcending".  OK fine...let's see some evidence.
 Likewise, with the other claims.
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 How about curing diseases?
 Make some real substantial claims followed by some good uncooked data; with 
perhaps a few citations of peer reviewed research by somebody outside of the 
TMO or MUM.
 If the claims are true, people in vast numbers should be flocking to a 
practice that has specified benefits.
 Will "transcending" help one in the midst of a Zombie Apocalypse?
 
 Will it extend one's lifespan?  (doesn't look like it in view of the stats 
coming from FF)
 

 Send Your Q's.. 
 I will aggregate Q’s from FFL and forward them on to the panel
 for the October 28th Meeting.
 

 Respond to this post/thread.
 

 Or,
 

 Anyone reading FFL but unable to post to FairfieldLife who have questions they 
would like asked
 Can send them to: 
 
 fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com
 

 I can include those too of the FFL lurkers,  
 

 -JaiGuruYou


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Who knows? However, that was one of those "Maharishi says..." pronouncements 
floating around FF in my early days here. Here's what MAPI has to say about 
peanuts (it's consistent with what MMY allegedly said):

"Peanuts are not recommended in ayurveda. Peanuts are not really nuts; they are 
legumes. Peanuts are difficult to digest and can make one feel sluggish and 
lethargic in body and mind. Ayurvedically, it is better to use either cashew or 
almond butter for sandwiches."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Did Maharishi really say that eating peanuts dulls the mind?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 Aggregating Questions.. 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Some other questions.. sent through to FFL by e-mail:

 

 In order for TMO to thrive and 

 continue being a force for good
 in the world, how "transparent"
 do the panel members think it
 should be: 100%, 50%, something else?
 

 PS I would be grateful if the topic of 

 transparency could be addressed
 before any other questions
 are entertained.

 

 #
Is it the central purpose of [Global Country of World Peace [GCWP] to simply 
act as one of a myriad of movement tax shelters for the "non-profit" world of 
the wealthy? 

 

  
 #
 Someone else asks:
 Why is the US Brahmasthan being ignored by admin?

 

 #
 

 Who currently owns the Brahmasthan of America?
 Does it have a Board of Trustee?
Who is on the Brahmasthan of America Board of Trustees?

 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 Did TM money bail him out and pay his legal fees?
 

 #
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  
 Will "transcending" it make people richer?.
 
 Will "transcending" curing diseases?
 Will it extend one's lifespan?

 #
 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?

 #
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 A panel coming up this week
 is looking for tough questions...
 

 [ Reply to this FFL post or lurkers can send other Q's you'd like to ask 
straight to the FFL list owner at:
 dhamiltony2k5 at yahoo.com   ]  The FFL list owner also has some channels to 
submit questions on
 up the chain.,, 
 

 All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

 

 Anybody have questions of the TM movement to ask?
 

 Where is Dr. Pete?  He had particular question about
 the research.  
 

 What else?
 

 Like, where did all the money go?
 

 Who is TM now?
 How does the org work?
 Could they share actual certified financial statements?
 Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?
 What is TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?
 Is Girish out of jail?  What was that all about?
 

 Other Q's people have?
 

 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 
 How about curing diseases?
 

 Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?
 

 Yifuxero writes:
 I'm skeptical of the rationale and underlying assumptions..
 Would one of the conclusions be "Transcending will make you happy and TM is 
the preferred method of transcending".  OK fine...let's see some evidence.
 Likewise, with the other claims.
 Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.
 How about curing diseases?
 Make some real substantial claims followed by some good uncooked data; with 
perhaps a few citations of peer reviewed research by somebody outside of the 
TMO or MUM.
 If the claims are true, people in vast numbers should be flocking to a 
practice that has specified benefits.
 Will "transcending" help one in the midst of a Zombie Apocalypse?
 
 Will it extend one's lifespan?  (doesn't look like it in view of the stats 
coming from FF)
 

 Send Your Q's.. 
 I will aggregate Q’s from FFL and forward them on to the panel
 for the October 28th Meeting.
 

 Respond to this post/thread.
 

 Or,
 

 Anyone reading FFL but unable to post to FairfieldLife who have questions they 
would like asked
 Can send them to: 
 
 fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com
 

 I can include those too of the FFL lurkers,  
 

 -JaiGuruYou


  








  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

 

 The illusory aspect of maya is inherent in the world.  The prime example is 
the dual nature of light in nature.  It is both a particle and a wave.  Being a 
wave, light is non-deterministic and is probabilistic.   As such, the world is 
based on information that's similar to the virtual world of computers.  Hence, 
it can be justified to say that the world is a simulation in a gigantic 
computer.
 

 Tom Campbell, a former TMer, discusses this point in the following video:
 

 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (from Spokane) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 
 Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ "In the early 1900's, physicists 
understood the nature of Reality better then than they do now." In this excerpt 
from the May 2014 Spokane workshop, T...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMIz_iJtzQ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 

 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 I meditate all the time, and more often than most TM meditators, it has a 
goodly effect. 
 

 Meditation reveals certain oddities about the nature of the universe from the 
level of experience. 
 

 I would say the the illusion aspect of maya, and the consequent 
misunderstanding of the nature of spiritual life lasts all the way to Brahman 
consciousness, at which point maya begins to retreat. 
 

 Most people seem to assume this happens near the beginning of practice of TM 
but the misunderstanding of the nature of self and the world lasts through all 
the states and we become capable of correcting the mistake of the intellect 
only at the end.
 

 Because until then we did not know what it really was.
 

 The word used for sin in the Bible means literally to miss the mark. The word 
sin in English comes from a root word meaning guilty. Actions performed when 
feeling guilty are stressful.
 

 Using the term sin to coerce people to do something that they spontaneously do 
not do, such as vote or even meditate might have adverse effects if in fact 
what the person does contrary to another's desire is really spontaneous. 
 

 Most people in the world do not naturally meditate, they have to come to it 
somehow, and understand by experience its value, and only then will they 
naturally continue with it.
 

 The TM org is considered hostile by some so these people might avoid doing 
what the org wants.
 

 
 Meditation eventually develops spontaneity, but spontaneity means you cannot 
predict what will happen, you cannot predict what a spontaneous person acting 
within the framework of nature's laws will do.
 

 They do not act on individual whim, it's nature's spontaneity to do or not to 
do.
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 
   
 Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human spirituality 
there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual well-being 
either individually or collectively and then other things we may do that 
degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that which 
is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 'sinful' 
which detract from it.  
 

 Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms. 
  
 It could well be constructed that in the least, the complacent position on 
meditation is just some ignorance of the science or some lack of discipline in 
practice and experience as these manifest and not sinning necessarily like in 
the sense of the religious jurisdiction of a Sharia law or a Papal inquisition. 
 We are just talking the spiritual here, like in the experience of 
transcendentalism here.  
 

 But then, in this construction when it might come to further considering those 
who would be false apostates out on the internet actively denying the science 
of meditation and even working at derailing those evident good works of 
meditation and its collective practice theirs under this spiritual construction 
would certainly become a moral failing simple, above the complacent, a type of 
serious crime against humanity's spirituality more than just misdemeanor, but 
rising to that of felony crime against humanity. [ ] 
  .. constructing the indictment.   -JaiGuruYou   
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree.
 

 "The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,