[FairfieldLife] Trump: "Millions of People Voted Illegally"

2016-11-27 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Without any evidence for saying so, Trump sounds defensive about the election 
results.  He may be afraid that he may have lost the election in the three 
states Clinton is contesting.  If he loses those states, Trump may contest the 
entire election to prove that illegals may have voted illegally in the other 
states.  So, the recount may take a while folks.  And the electoral board does 
not have to make their votes official until December 19, 2016.
 

 Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of People’ Voted Illegally 
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 Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of... 
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 The president-elect made the unsubstantiated claim as part of a storm of 
Twitter posts voicing anger about a three-state recount push.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Calling people *backward* is judgemental. They may be very well be going 
through what their dharma expects of them, what they need at that very moment 
in their evolution.
Where they end up could put all of us to shame.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited
   
 As you know TM would not be my choice to use in schools because it IS too 
expensive and somewhat limited.  My first experience with any kind of 
meditation was in the 5th grade when some of the intermediate band members were 
added to the advanced or high school band.  The teacher took us through what we 
today would call a "guided meditation" of imagining a handkerchief slowly 
falling to the ground. This was an attempt to get the kids to quiet down enough 
to concentrate on playing the music.
 
 The problem is that Sanskrit mantras do tend to work very well even though 
they really are just sounds attributed to "Hindu gods" which in reality are 
analogs for forces of nature. 
 
 As for "missing the boat" I think a lot of people think that about the 
backward.  We should encourage them to move forward.  There are just some 
ideologies that don't fit well into this era.  A lot of fundamentalism is 
interpreting too literally a teaching that was not supposed to be taken so.
 
 On 11/27/2016 05:30 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Equal protection under the law, I would assume. If  public schools are 
going to protect non- Christians from being *harmed* by being in the presence 
of organized prayer what's good for the goose is good for the gander. BTW, 
it won't just be *fundamentalists* that oppose it. Nearly every other sect of 
main stream Christianity would also.
 I'm not exactly sure that you are qualified to say *who has or hasn't* missed 
the boat. Our karma determines our dharma. Is yoga a *blessing* to get ahead or 
is it a blessing to catch-up? Each person has it's mission in life. The camp 
you find yourself in, is probably the one  you need the most.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited
  
      Why should we care what fundamentalists think?  There are such kinds 
in every religion and they missed the boat a long time ago. They are a minority 
and  should never be treated like they are a majority.  It's not like we keep 
them from learning anything as it's up to them to ask to learn.
 
 On 11/27/2016 04:39 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist schools  
supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent independent academic 
party (the independence part is something new and unexpectedsince it  lends 
credibility to the science). Unfortunately, the venture may not go over 
well as soon as the Fundamentalist Christians learn  of it.  Put yourself in 
their shoes.  First step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the 
Gods".  Naturally, they will select the very first entry on top, and use that 
to  attempt to discredit the Quietist schools. ...Next, they will gather a 
group of like-minded Folk to picket the schools and put  pressure on the local 
politicians to put a lid on the venture, claiming the separation of  Church and 
State (since their conclusion will be that the TM mantras are the Names of  the 
Hindu Gods, according to the very first google entry that comes up.). Any TM 
practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't praying to the 
actual  "Gods"; but the reality of what actually happens is experientially 
obscure and beyond the superficial understanding of the Fundamentalists.  A 
media frenzy will ensue, since the media feeds on superficiality. 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Radical' 'Revolutionary' Transcendental Meditationists

2016-11-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Revolutionaries, where it has happened and where revolution has brought change 
in broader status quo for humanity it is interesting study to look at and hear 
how they said it, how they said it and acted it out such that they compelled 
and led broader societal change.  Like looking back at Mao’s quotations, the 
little red book, to see what he said that resonated a people then.   
 

 While Mao is not in the tradition of transcendentalists, 
 Study what Mao could have said to meditators in his Maoist way.. 
 A link to a leadership mash-up of Mao’s quotations and transcendental 
meditationist revolution..   
 Mao and Maharishi:
 Now folded in to one millenarian-ist revolutionary's quotation book,
 -isms Paraphrased:
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/qAs9ROcD8Ro
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/qAs9ROcD8Ro
 

 

 Another of 20th Century’s large revolutionaries passes..  Castro and Cuban 
revolution have been in the background of my whole life. It is interesting to 
read the obits today for Castro and recall the decades. 

 

 NPR has sound clip samplings of Castro speeches over the years to hear along 
with their webpage obit.  Again, though not an overt transcendentalist like in 
is this thread, 
 one can kind of ‘hear’ his leadership charisma in the clips.  No doubt you had 
to be there, like with Maharishi. 
 

 Sound clips, scroll further down the NPR piece
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/26/6631562/former-cuban-leader-fidel-castro-dies-at-age-90
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/26/6631562/former-cuban-leader-fidel-castro-dies-at-age-90
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "I’m at peace with myself and the universe. One can’t but come closer to God or
Heaven than to merge oneself with the universal order of things—to become, as it
were, one with all of space and time. " Dr Robert Lanza

 “If we measure our individual forces against hers [nature’s], we may easily 
feel as
if we were the sport of an insuperable destiny. But if, instead of identifying
ourselves with the work, we feel that the soul of the workman streams through 
us, we
shall find the peace of the morning dwelling first in our hearts, and the 
fathomless
powers of gravity and chemistry, and, over them, of life, pre-existing within 
us in
their highest form.” Ralph Waldo Emerson 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waging radical peace, The SRM (The Spiritual Regeneration Movement) would be 
revolutionary.. A corollary discussion drawing on definition..
 Using Foster's Critique of revolutionary movements to consider 
 Transcendental Meditation (TM) in the 20th Century.  
 See thread: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/1di3VYUG13U
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/1di3VYUG13U
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Anyone who will effectively meditate according to what the best of modern 
science is correlating, anyone practicing an effective transcending meditation 
is of their own weight a radical, a free radical revolutionary. -JaiGuruYou 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Well, like an old battle cruiser that had been left with a skeleton crew 
decommissioned by bureaucrats the likes of Bevan and Neil the old ship is in 
re-fit right now.  Gone from speeds of just 200 a month being taught meditation 
before 2006 whence the old ship was discovered then in inventory at anchor 
unattended to, then bringing in and putting John Hagelin in charge in concert 
with David Lynch along with other capable old field teachers in the old ship is 
being brought on line again.  It is up to speeds of about 2000 new meditators a 
month or better speeds now in tests in the US.   
 Like the old Shaker tune,
 Old Ship of Zion
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrj0BocV4U 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrj0BocV4U
 

 

 What ship is this that will take us all home, 
O glory, hallelujah!
And safely land us on Canaan's bright shore?
O glory, hallelujah!

(refrain)
'Tis the old ship of Zion, hallelu, hallelu;
'Tis the old ship of Zion, hallelujah!

The winds may blow, and the billows may foam,
O glory, hallelujah!
But she is able to land us all home, 
O glory, hallelujah!

(refrain)

She landed all who have gone before, 
O glory, hallelujah!
And she is able to land still more,
O glory, hallelujah!

(refrain)

If I arrive there, then, before you do,
O glory, hallelujah!
I'll tell them all that you are coming up, too.
O glory, hallelujah!

(refrain)
 

 
 Thx, sorry but I don't get "it" - the scenario you're describing.  After 1975, 
the TM Movement suffered a precipitous decline in initiation numbers and by 
your own accout, there's only a few hundred initiations per year.
 While it's true that a revolution is going on on growing numbers of 
self-styled 

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
As you know TM would not be my choice to use in schools because it IS 
too expensive and somewhat limited.  My first experience with any kind 
of meditation was in the 5th grade when some of the intermediate band 
members were added to the advanced or high school band.  The teacher 
took us through what we today would call a "guided meditation" of 
imagining a handkerchief slowly falling to the ground. This was an 
attempt to get the kids to quiet down enough to concentrate on playing 
the music.


The problem is that Sanskrit mantras do tend to work very well even 
though they really are just sounds *attributed* to "Hindu gods" which in 
reality are analogs for forces of nature.


As for "missing the boat" I think a lot of people think that about the 
backward.  We should encourage them to move forward.  There are just 
some ideologies that don't fit well into this era.  A lot of 
fundamentalism is interpreting too literally a teaching that was not 
supposed to be taken so.


On 11/27/2016 05:30 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Equal protection under the law, I would assume. If  public schools are 
going to protect non- Christians from being *harmed* by being in the 
presence of organized prayer what's good for the goose is good for 
the gander.
BTW, it won't just be *fundamentalists* that oppose it. Nearly every 
other sect of main stream Christianity would also.
I'm not exactly sure that you are qualified to say *who has or hasn't* 
missed the boat. Our karma determines our dharma. Is yoga a *blessing* 
to get ahead or is it a blessing to catch-up? Each person has it's 
mission in life. The camp you find yourself in, is probably the one 
you need the most.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:07 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

Why should we care what fundamentalists think?  There are such kinds 
in every religion and they missed the boat a long time ago. They are a 
minority and should never be treated like they are a majority.  It's 
not like we keep them from learning anything as it's up to them to ask 
to learn.


On 11/27/2016 04:39 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist 
schools supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent 
independent academic party (the independence part is something new 
and unexpectedsince it lends credibility to the science).
Unfortunately, the venture may not go over well as soon as the 
Fundamentalist Christians learn of it.  Put yourself in their shoes.  
First step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the 
Gods".  Naturally, they will select the very first entry on top, and 
use that to attempt to discredit the Quietist schools.
...Next, they will gather a group of like-minded Folk to picket the 
schools and put pressure on the local politicians to put a lid on the 
venture, claiming the separation of  Church and State (since their 
conclusion will be that the TM mantras are the Names of the Hindu 
Gods, according to the very first google entry that comes up.).
Any TM practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't 
praying to the actual "Gods"; but the reality of what actually 
happens is experientially obscure and beyond the superficial 
understanding of the Fundamentalists.  A media frenzy will ensue, 
since the media feeds on superficiality.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts

2016-11-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, it's next to impossible to prove who voted illegally. The authorities 
were not allowed to ask a person to *prove* that they were a citizen. Their 
word had to be taken. Obama made it quite clear that there is no cross 
referencing of citizenship and legal status and voter ballots. Who's going to 
know?


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts
   
 In California it was not only illegal aliens who may have voted but 
precincts not counted and some recounts blocked.  It's one thing to not like 
Trump and another to engage in illegal activity handling an election so Hillary 
would win.  I would personally like to see people who did so face a judge and 
jury regardless of which side they favored.
 
 On 11/27/2016 05:08 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     John, there is *no evidence* that there has been any tampering, hacking 
etc. Even the WH has been poo- pooing the idea.The charge is that it is 
possible that it *could* have happened but there is *no evidence* that it did. 
If there was any illegal voting going on, it is more likely that it happened in 
states such as California that have given  six million illegal aliens drivers 
licenses that can be used as ID in order to vote. All an illegal would have to 
do is, check a box on his voter registration, declaring that he/she is a US 
citizen and no questions are asked.It's against the law.If you violated 
immigration laws and use falsified Social Security numbers, why wouldn't you 
lie about your citizenship, especially if it meant possibly protecting yourself 
from  deportation.
  
 
From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts
  
    But it appears Jill Stein and Hillary Clinton may have evidence the 
votes in Michigan, Wisconsin,  and Pennsylvania have been hacked or flawed.  
  Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 'millions voted 
illegally'  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts

2016-11-27 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
In California it was not only illegal aliens who may have voted but 
precincts not counted and some recounts blocked.  It's one thing to not 
like Trump and another to engage in illegal activity handling an 
election so Hillary would win.  I would personally like to see people 
who did so face a judge and jury regardless of which side they favored.


On 11/27/2016 05:08 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
John, there is *no evidence* that there has been any tampering, 
hacking etc. Even the WH has been poo- pooing the idea.The charge is 
that it is possible that it *could* have happened but there is *no 
evidence* that it did.
If there was any illegal voting going on, it is more likely that it 
happened in states such as California that have given  six million 
illegal aliens drivers licenses that can be used as ID in order to 
vote. All an illegal would have to do is, check a box on his voter 
registration, declaring that he/she is a US citizen and no questions 
are asked.It's against the law.If you violated immigration laws and 
use falsified Social Security numbers, why wouldn't you lie about your 
citizenship, especially if it meant possibly protecting yourself from 
deportation.




*From:* "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:16 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts

But it appears Jill Stein and Hillary Clinton may have evidence the 
votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania have been hacked or flawed.


Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 'millions voted 
illegally' 
 





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Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Equal protection under the law, I would assume. If  public schools are going to 
protect non- Christians from being *harmed* by being in the presence of 
organized prayer what's good for the goose is good for the gander.BTW, it 
won't just be *fundamentalists* that oppose it. Nearly every other sect of main 
stream Christianity would also.
I'm not exactly sure that you are qualified to say *who has or hasn't* missed 
the boat. Our karma determines our dharma. Is yoga a *blessing* to get ahead or 
is it a blessing to catch-up? Each person has it's mission in life. The camp 
you find yourself in, is probably the one you need the most.
  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 7:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited
   
 Why should we care what fundamentalists think?  There are such kinds in 
every religion and they missed the boat a long time ago. They are a minority 
and should never be treated like they are a majority.  It's not like we keep 
them from learning anything as it's up to them to ask to learn.
 
 On 11/27/2016 04:39 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
    Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist schools 
supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent independent academic 
party (the independence part is something new and unexpectedsince it lends 
credibility to the science). Unfortunately, the venture may not go over 
well as soon as the Fundamentalist Christians learn of it.  Put yourself in 
their shoes.  First step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the 
Gods".  Naturally, they will select the very first entry on top, and use that 
to attempt to discredit the Quietist schools. ...Next, they will gather a group 
of like-minded Folk to picket the schools and put pressure on the local 
politicians to put a lid on the venture, claiming the separation of  Church and 
State (since their conclusion will be that the TM mantras are the Names of the 
Hindu Gods, according to the very first google entry that comes up.). Any TM 
practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't praying to the 
actual "Gods"; but the reality of what actually happens is experientially 
obscure and beyond the superficial understanding of the Fundamentalists.  A 
media frenzy will ensue, since the media feeds on superficiality. 
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[FairfieldLife] The Celestial realm & Devas - Harri Aalto

2016-11-27 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Harri Aalto discusses the topic of the Celestial Heaven and Devas with Rick; 
and the relationship to the Laws of Nature.  Harri says that he spent 3 years 
of intensive involvement with the Devas involving direct communication and 
perception, but evolved to a more stabilized state in which the Devas are like 
his extended family.
 Start at 52 min, which continues to about 1::12 at which time the topic segues 
into "God".
 

 Harri Aalto - 3rd Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwyzRh7EfrE=2884s
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwyzRh7EfrE=2884s 
 
 Harri Aalto - 3rd Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwyzRh7EfrE=2884s Also see 
https://batgap.com/harri-aalto-3/ Harri’s descriptions soar from the mundane to 
the sublime and explain the intimate details, understanding and expe...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thx, why care about Fundamentdalists?  It's a personal thing.  I pray for the 
welfare of countless groups of people, and knowledge about what they think 
facilitates overall "understanding" which segues into wisdom.(imo)
 Think of the situation of a doctor treating a patient, but first finding out 
the source of the problem.
 One could extrapolate intoWhy care about (name anything, perhaps 
aardvarks).  Aardvarks and what they experience are an important part of the 
Totality.
 Solely on personal choices but supported by logic (imo), no lines can be drawn 
between the so-called material and the Spiritual, but this no means implies 
Neo-Advaita (which begins to deny the existence of various categories of 
existence leading to a total denial that anything relative exists at all.).
 Thus (just a personal hobby of mine), I like finding out what (especially) 
various Gurus believe, and this quest started first with my involvement in the 
TM Movement long ago; when I began to discover certain inconsistencies in the 
basic message and the behavior I observed.  This led me on an infinite quest to 
discover more about "the truth" (relative truth), and which Teacher had the 
"real" goods..
 There are benefits to this since one (anybody) can be easily led down a rabbit 
hole, and it may take lifetimes getting out.  On occasion, critical 
understanding a decisions may hinge on the meaning a single words, like "both", 
"and", "but", and "maybe" (which I will get into later.).


Re: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts

2016-11-27 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
John, there is *no evidence* that there has been any tampering, hacking etc. 
Even the WH has been poo- pooing the idea.The charge is that it is possible 
that it *could* have happened but there is *no evidence* that it did.If there 
was any illegal voting going on, it is more likely that it happened in states 
such as California that have given  six million illegal aliens drivers licenses 
that can be used as ID in order to vote. All an illegal would have to do is, 
check a box on his voter registration, declaring that he/she is a US citizen 
and no questions are asked.It's against the law.If you violated immigration 
laws and use falsified Social Security numbers, why wouldn't you lie about your 
citizenship, especially if it meant possibly protecting yourself from 
deportation.


  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:16 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts
   
    But it appears Jill Stein and Hillary Clinton may have evidence the votes 
in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania have been hacked or flawed.
Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 'millions voted 
illegally' 
||
||||   Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election 
where 

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Why should we care what fundamentalists think?  There are such kinds in 
every religion and they missed the boat a long time ago. They are a 
minority and should never be treated like they are a majority.  It's not 
like we keep them from learning anything as it's up to them to ask to learn.


On 11/27/2016 04:39 PM, yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist 
schools supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent 
independent academic party (the independence part is something new and 
unexpectedsince it lends credibility to the science).


Unfortunately, the venture may not go over well as soon as the 
Fundamentalist Christians learn of it. Put yourself in their shoes.  
First step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the Gods". 
Naturally, they will select the very first entry on top, and use that 
to attempt to discredit the Quietist schools.


...Next, they will gather a group of like-minded Folk to picket the 
schools and put pressure on the local politicians to put a lid on the 
venture, claiming the separation of  Church and State (since their 
conclusion will be that the TM mantras are the Names of the Hindu 
Gods, according to the very first google entry that comes up.).


Any TM practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't 
praying to the actual "Gods"; but the reality of what actually happens 
is experientially obscure and beyond the superficial understanding of 
the Fundamentalists.  A media frenzy will ensue, since the media feeds 
on superficiality.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crowds Cheer Fidel Castro's Death

2016-11-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Maharishi’s revolutionary work crossed paths with Castro’s in 1962 with 
Maharishi calling for meditators to gather in group meditations then as the 
world was collapsing into a state of post-war atomic agitation between 
super-powers.  The Cuban Missile Crisis and the Spiritual Regeneration 
Movement’s Catalina Island, California meditation retreat, 1962. 
 

 BBC's Fidel Obit..  
 Castro responded by insisting that "revolutionary justice is not based on 
legal precepts, but on moral conviction".
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-10744408 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-10744408
 



 NPR  Castro obit piece:
 
 "There is not communism or Marxism, but representative democracy and social 
justice in a well-planned economy," he said at the time.
 
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/26/6631562/former-cuban-leader-fidel-castro-dies-at-age-90
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He was able to dodge several assassination attempts, but he couldn't avoid the 
Grim Reaper in the end.  Now many exiled Cubans in the US can visit their home 
country without fear.
 

 Crowds cheer Castro's death in Little Havana 
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction 
 
 http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction
 
 Crowds cheer Castro's death in Little Havana 
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction News of 
Fidel Castro's death was quick to reach Miami, the center of the Cuban exile 
community, where jubilant crowds hit the streets of Little Havana.


 
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[FairfieldLife] TM mantras revisited

2016-11-27 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thx again Doug for posting the Smithsonian article on the Quietist schools 
supported by Lynch, under the direction of an apparent independent academic 
party (the independence part is something new and unexpectedsince it lends 
credibility to the science).
 Unfortunately, the venture may not go over well as soon as the 
Fundamentalist Christians learn of it.  Put yourself in their shoes.  First 
step  Google  TM Mantras, or "Are TM Mantras Names of the Gods".  Naturally, 
they will select the very first entry on top, and use that to attempt to 
discredit the Quietist schools.
 ...Next, they will gather a group of like-minded Folk to picket the schools 
and put pressure on the local politicians to put a lid on the venture, claiming 
the separation of  Church and State (since their conclusion will be that the TM 
mantras are the Names of the Hindu Gods, according to the very first google 
entry that comes up.).
 Any TM practitioner knows that when using the mantras, they aren't praying to 
the actual "Gods"; but the reality of what actually happens is experientially 
obscure and beyond the superficial understanding of the Fundamentalists.  A 
media frenzy will ensue, since the media feeds on superficiality.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Mindfulness and Tim Ryan

2016-11-27 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rep. Tim Ryan (D), is challenging Nancy Pelosi for leadership of the D. Party; 
but he doesn't have a lot of support.
 But he's also an advocate of Mindfulness, as he stated today (Sunday) in an 
interview with Chris Wallace. Wallace at first sounded skeptical and mocked 
Ryan a bit, until Ryan started rattling off statistics supporting the benefits 
of Mindfulness such as reduction in crime rates, etc.  Then Wallace changed the 
subject.
 .Not much support for Mindfulness either, it seems; but it's a good start. 
 Why not?go for it.
 .
 Congressman Enlists NFL Players, Veterans To Bring Meditation To Capitol Hill 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/tim-ryan-meditation-congress_n_5282471.html
 
 
 
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 Congressman Enlists NFL Players, Veterans To Brin... 
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 WASHINGTON -- When it comes to selling his colleagues on the benefits of 
meditation, Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) is a patient man. Only a handful of lawmak...
 
 
 
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2016-11-27 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: In Meditating Fairfield, Iowa

2016-11-27 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thx,statements like this should be put into a proper perspective.  As to 
the Hagelin Premise where he basically says that peace follows from the ME 
which is "peer reviewed" and supported by "statistics"; which "peers" is he 
talking about, and who collected the stats.  If Dr. Hagelin is reading this, 
kindly provide the reference(s) on the peer reviewed journals, if any. 
 Does Dr. Hagelin have any credibility in mainstream science outside of the TMO 
and a few TM practitioners in Academia.?? 
 First, check Wikipedia for the entry on John Hagelin to find the answers to 
these questions.
 

 Second, recall that Dr. Hagelin received the IG Noble Prize in Peace for 19994 
for the ME.  This Prize is awarded to the research which is the most Ignoble in 
the field, but no problem - he shares his Peace award with a literature award 
given to L. Ron Hubbard. The "IG" may refer to a. some flaws in the 
accumulation of data, but more often: b. come ridiculous conclusion from data 
twisted in an irrational manner to support an ulterior motivation other than 
pure science.
 

 From Minet.org:   
 PEACE John Hagelin of Maharishi University and The Institute of Science, 
Technology and Public Policy, promulgator of peaceful thoughts, for his 
experimental conclusion that 4,000 trained meditators caused an 18 percent 
decrease in violent crime in Washington, D.C. [Details were published in 
"Interim Report: Results fo the National Demonstration Project To Reduce 
Violent Crime and Improve Governmental Effectiveness In Washington, D.C., June 
7 to July 30, 1993," Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy, 
Fairfield, Iowa.]
 

 Dr. Hagelin needs some retracing to mop up the weight of non-credibility he 
acquired back in the 90's. 
 If you're reading this, Dr. Hagelin, feel free to jump in and rebut.
 

 



[FairfieldLife] In Meditating Fairfield, Iowa

2016-11-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FW: 
 ..But these achievements are just the tip of the iceberg. We have just emerged 
from a weekend strategic summit with our University brain trust, where we set a 
path for rapid expansion and strengthening of all aspects of the University: 
bolstering student satisfaction, retention, and enrollment; improving faculty 
skills, credentials, compensation, housing, and benefits—including retirement 
benefits; enhancing our ability to inspire our students with Maharishi’s unique 
knowledge and vision, deepening their experiences with Advanced Techniques and 
the TM-Sidhis; strengthening our core academic programs; and expanding programs 
that will have the greatest positive financial impact, thereby providing the 
economic engine to fulfill all these other vital commitments.

 

 
 With my deepest thanks for your timely support, and with my sincere wishes for 
your health, happiness and success.
   John Hagelin, Ph.D.
President
 



[FairfieldLife] Quasi-yffing cat??

2016-11-27 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 https://youtu.be/Zj_2Dpn4IbA?t=50 https://youtu.be/Zj_2Dpn4IbA?t=50

 

 



[FairfieldLife] Crowds Cheer Fidel Castro's Death

2016-11-27 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He was able to dodge several assassination attempts, but he couldn't avoid the 
Grim Reaper in the end.  Now many exiled Cubans in the US can visit their home 
country without fear.
 

 Crowds cheer Castro's death in Little Havana 
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction 
 
 http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction 
 
 Crowds cheer Castro's death in Little Havana 
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/26/us/miami-fidel-castro-death-reaction News of 
Fidel Castro's death was quick to reach Miami, the center of the Cuban exile 
community, where jubilant crowds hit the streets of Little Havana.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Trump Criticizes Recount Efforts

2016-11-27 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
But it appears Jill Stein and Hillary Clinton may have evidence the votes in 
Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania have been hacked or flawed.
 

 Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 'millions voted 
illegally' 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-attacks-recount-effort-in-election-where-millions-voted-illegally/ar-AAkPasR?li=BBmkt5R=spartanntp
 
 
 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-attacks-recount-effort-in-election-where-millions-voted-illegally/ar-AAkPasR?li=BBmkt5R=spartanntp
 
 
 Donald Trump attacks recount effort in election where 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

2016-11-27 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Angel, Very real and fair considerations.  
 To FairfieldLife as a news group, bulletin board/ yahoo-group, you could be 
surprised where considered FairfieldLife (FFL) posts are read. By where they 
get forwarded on to and evidently have reach. FFL is certainly open to the 
public to read freely at its homepage.  
 

 At Quaker Meeting of meditating Quakers in FF this morning a number of friends 
expressed their gratitude for the recent excerpts from Ammachi that were posted 
to FFL.  That link itself apparently is getting read in India and Europe by 
interested readership.
  
These other spiritual considerations here too more specific to the meditating 
Fairfield evidently, by feedback that I get both on the street in FF and by 
e-mail, are making the rounds at upper echelons of TM here in FF and to old 
meditators and initiators of the old movement in FF and elsewhere.  
 With some frequency I will forward relevant links from FFL over to people who 
would be interested, to meditators, old movement folks, and to journalists and 
scholars outside too. Where the content is relevant the reaction either in town 
or from outside is always interested and appreciative.   
 -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You do realize you are mostly talking to yourself here?  

 I meditate when and where I want, or can, depending on the situation, and 
without regard to philosophies as to whether it can influence others. 
 

 My concern has only been enlightenment, all other goals are subordinate, are 
less important, and my own experience has been group practices are not that 
important compared with desire to succeed, particularly if unification is well 
advanced. 

 Enlightenment does not result in a monolithic viewpoint among a group of 
people. 
 

 And the reason is enlightenment is not about acquiring anything. It is about 
losing ignorance. 
 

 An enlightened man and an ignorant one can be in the same room, in the same 
situation. So what does that solve other than the two might see that situation 
differently?
 

 If doing less and accomplishing more means anything, why not do nothing and 
accomplish everything? Doing nothing does not require group meditation or 
programs. 
 

 Learning "how" to do nothing though does require some attention, usually 
decades for most.
 

 By the way, the entire subsequent history of the universe will be post this 
election. 
 

 There will likely be other elections, but the result of this last one has not 
yet happened, because the people who won are not in office yet, and yet 
everyone thinks they know what will happen.
 

 If group meditation had an effect, then the result of this election could be 
that effect.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Waging radical peace... 

 Hagelin's Premise..
 
 Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard 
scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request of you: Come and 
join us for meditation in Fairfield, Iowa for this post-election period of 
time. 
 


 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Hagelin's Premise,

 

 A premise large in assertion and direction like a Monroe Doctrine, The 
Marshall Plan or the Meissner-like Maharishi Effect, now as matter of 
statistical fact: The Hagelin Premise.
 

 Hagelin’s Premise :
 It is time to rally to meditation by all that the best of modern science tells 
us is statistical truth and by what we know more objectively in our experience 
as quite fair rule of thumb. It is quite time now to come together in 
collective meditation for all that is good.
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Discourses at the Ammachi darshans in Detroit this week were a lot about 
making a connection of cultivating/gaining spiritual strength from spiritual 
practices along with compassionate humanitarianism, as you say.  Light in the 
body, feet on the ground. "Do the work."
 

 

 

 Yifuxero writes:

 Thx, the case of a connection between Transcendence and compassionate 
humanitarianism, perhaps can be undermined or even dismissed from a 
Neo-Advaitic viewpoint by saying that Transcendence alone does not imply any 
particular action.
 However, recent research coming from several areas does indeed bolster the 
connection between Transcendence (if done by enough people) and Global Peace.; 
but I must object to the idea that MMY made those connections.
 The new argument can be bolstered by merging 3  sources:  1. Sam Harris, 2. 
The polyvagal axis theory, and 3. the brain's production of Oxytocin, which is 
part of (2).
 First, from Neurophysiologist Harris:  (a reasoned hypothesis) That silent 
medication may lead to increased awareness which leads to Empathy for others 
(an ability to feel what others are feeling, in some way).  Finally, the 
increased ability to Empathize leads to what the Buddhists call Compassion 
(related to the 

[FairfieldLife] [old?] Yagya for Trump

2016-11-27 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]


 US Presidential Elections 2016: Special ‘havan’ organised in Mumbai for Donald 
Trump’s victory 
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/us-presidential-elections-2016-special-havanorganised-in-mumbai-to-pray-for-donald-trumps-victory-3741448/

 
 
 
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/us-presidential-elections-2016-special-havanorganised-in-mumbai-to-pray-for-donald-trumps-victory-3741448/
 
 
 US Presidential Elections 2016: Special ‘havan’ orga... 
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/us-presidential-elections-2016-special-havanorganised-in-mumbai-to-pray-for-donald-trumps-victory-3741448/
 Just a few days ago, the Hindu Sena held a rally at Jantar Mantar to show 
their support and give their best wishes to Trump.
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Harri Aalto: 3rd Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 11/25/2016

2016-11-27 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 Nice, soft and low, "somatic" [~sawmatik*] speaking voice!
 

 * caused by soma [sawmah] pavamaana or soma raajan??