RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
Hey, Rick I thought the latest interview with Jude Currivan on BatGap was very interesting. Meeting those archetypes, which she discussed, must be mysterious. The current guru on UTube to discuss this is Dr. Pillai, who's mentioned about archetypes from ancient Egypt. Can you find someone who had visions of Shiva or Zeus? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved? > That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it. I believe the > Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his > version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness. But can > Rick Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has broken through the barrier of mediocrity? :) I haven’t been looking for one, but I but I think there are lots of other examples of exceptionalism.
[FairfieldLife] In Praise of Root Vegetables
The Kingsmen praise the root vegetables in "Jolly Green Giant" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlUq2dCOEA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlUq2dCOEA
[FairfieldLife] More Superpowers
Justice League, 2017, with Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman) and Ben Afleck. A DC attempt to assume dominance in the Super Power field, over Marvel. (they usually fail, but Wonder Woman did well). Might as well milk a cow for all it's worth, but risky. People may get tired of the Justice League. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n-OZBwr6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n-OZBwr6Q
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[FairfieldLife] Need for Nanotechnology?
Is there a need for Nanotechnology in the transhumanist model of evolution? No. Kurzweil is a nutcase, and the recent series on the Natgeo channel "Year Million": - exploring various possibilities in the distance future, has a major flaw: Make that three flaws: 1. First flaw is that the more desirable (for most) choice in the distant future would be to upload one's "consciousness" onto a virtual reality type of internet, while the physical body is stored someplace. IMO Dumbest idea I've ever heard of. Those TV producers are assuming that one's identity is solely memories, and if one can tap into the brain mechanically, those memories constitute the "you"; and given time, technology will provide the means of uploading the memories into what they called The HIVE: (a shared virtual reality world that everybody on earth is invited to get into). 2. Next problem: leaving the physical body behind somewhere. (this could get messy). Obviously inspired by the Matrix movies. Leave me out of that world. 3. Third major flaw. It assumes that Descartes dualism (the Soul can be separate from the body). is false and that only Naturalism is the real model (that only physical matter exists as information.). Then, their phoney logic jumps from the "information" part (the "you" is only the information contained in memories), to an eternal "you" in the HIVE world (a shared Internet virtual world). An alternative to the "Year Million" model of living in the Internet HIVE is the Sant Mat model: develop the ability to travel outside the physical body to anyplace in the multiverse. Then, when the physical body naturally dies, one is free to live in any subtle realm (only returning to the physical world by choice as an Avatar). SHALOM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
Thx, about a dozen of the Batgappers have extraordinary psychic abilities, impressive in my book. As to the rest, most are boring Neo-Advaitins having only one message: everything is pure Consciousness. That's only one statement of fact, while what comes after (or before) that Realization taking place only once, is an Infinity of possibilities including exploration of other galaxies and universes. As a next step on the evolutionary ladder, try shifting the focus from "Pure Consciousness" to Neg-Entropy, i.e. as an individual Soul, consider two choices: 1. Dissolving completely into Nothingness with no more further relative bodies. 2. Infinite continuum of evolution viewing the "Soul" (subtle body) as an active Agent for doing good in the world for countless eons to come, perhaps even forever. That's the choice: 1. No existence, or 2 Eternal relative existence using one or more Subtle bodies. The notion of Lesh Avidya or whatever they call it (a remnant of ignorance needed to maintain a celestial relative existence), is completely bogus. The Absolute can not be more or less 100% Absolute, whether there's a body there or not. Sustaining a body is not dependent on "Ignorance". Ramana Maharshi once stated that he had 20 subtle bodies operating on different planes of existence, simultaneously As a first step using the Neg-Entropic model, consider the Siddhi of out of body travel to anyplace in the multiverse. That's the goal of Gurus in the Sant Mat Tradition, like Kirpal Singh.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved? > That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it. I believe the > Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his > version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness. But can > Rick Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has > broken through the barrier of mediocrity? :) I haven’t been looking for one, but I but I think there are lots of other examples of exceptionalism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
That's a good point, but Kurzweil probably won't like it. I believe the Christian mystic Teilhard de Chardin wrote about his Omega Man, which is his version of a human in cosmic consciousness or God-consciousness. But can Rick Archer find someone who can levitate to show us that a human being has broken through the barrier of mediocrity? :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Heh! What have yogis been doing for centuries? These idiots who fancy themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way. I have this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the future where Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine and is begging people to turn the machine off because he finally is tired of living. Of course everyone is ignoring him. On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist movement. But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears capable of transcending itself to unite with the absolute. So, why is AI, nanotechnology and other scientific gadgets necessary to improve the human brain? What do you think?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can the Human Brain be Improved?
Heh! What have yogis been doing for centuries? These idiots who fancy themselves scientists are going about brain improvement the wrong way. I have this vision of a "Twilight Zone" episode that takes place in the future where Ray Kurzweil has managed to merge himself with a machine and is begging people to turn the machine off because he finally is tired of living. Of course everyone is ignoring him. On 07/05/2017 08:34 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This is the question that propels adherents of the transhumanist movement. But at the fundamental level, the human brain appears capable of transcending itself to unite with the absolute. So, why is AI, nanotechnology and other scientific gadgets necessary to improve the human brain? What do you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What is Conscionable, in TM?
From e-mail: If one looks at all the criticism of the Mvmt over the years, most of it boils down to lack of 'development of the vertical at the expense of the horizontal.' That is a cerebral way to put it, development of consciousness at the expense of relationships, including ethics and mgmt, most of the rest boils down to the need for more professional training in the area concerned. ™’ers are not more moral or ethical. We can't become a religion or ethical society by talking about ethics. That would not work for the Mvmt. We are here to teach transcending. But we should talk ethics and morals, esp ethics, among ourselves in the Mvmt. But I focus on mgmt for the reason I gave. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Evidently ethical behavior may not be correlated with 'development of consciousness'.. As in TM science research ‘moral reasoning’ is simply reduced and measured in standard testing as ‘quick thinking’ which apparently is not necessarily the same measure as ethical or compassionate behavior. Long time meditators or gurus though potentially more ‘aware’ evidently are not necessarily more ethical. Ethical spiritual virtues evidently are felt in life by the human spiritual body and ethical behavior on a ‘behavioral axis’ it seems is cultivated differently in life by culture. Spiritually cultivated ethics felt and lived apparently is very much about the condition of spiritual life in the body (polyvagal?) and not necessarily related directly to a consciousness continuum of states of consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, evidently the heart of spirituality is embodied in the Polyvagal and affected in its expression by spiritual practices such as meditation, culture and epigenetic stress. It seems that In an awake conscious life, as transcendentalists call this, ‘a life well lived’, that ethical behavior is felt primarily by whether behavior enhances or withers spiritual life. That simple. A felt discernment of a whole of the spiritual human system of being. yifuxero writes: Thx, the development of the Polyvagal nervous system (physical representation of empathy and compassion); appears to be (or can be) somewhat independent of the states of Consciousness mentioned by MMY. Thus, it does not necessarily follow that a person in (CC, UC) is well developed in regard to empathy, compassion, and free from Narcissistic tendencies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Spirituality and the ‘Behavioral Axis’.. FW: a narrative: “People in the meditating community are not by any means fully developed, I see dysfunctional, disrespectful behavior often in and out of the Dome. I see people having a lot of experience of CC (cosmic consciousness) who often do not behave like saints. I know of one man who says he went into CC in high school and is now full of GC, UC and BC experience and often reports them to IAA anonymously. I asked an employee of his what it was like to work for him. The employee said, "It's all about him." and “That saint does not know how to treat employees / people”. My spouse is a friend of the wife, and told me that the saint's wife said more or less the same thing about living with him. Higher states of consciousness, and being on the path of them, is not all there is to sainthood or life. That's one thing that has become clear esp in the past years. There is the behavioral axis also. Ultimately, all is one, but in practice, these often need to be treated as two. Otherwise, one ends in the mood-making soup. Administration needs to be skilled, and ‘sainthood’ appreciated and guided. “ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : .. Despite their zeal, in perversity they perish. Om how humankind blame the Divine Pitrs. From us they say comes evil, but through their own perversity are more than is their due they meet with sorrow. Forewarned, for vengeance follows. The opening council, Paraphrasing, -Homer, The Odyssey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitrs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitrs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Communal Scruples? Asking around, apparently some individuals have been ejected from the movement community as sexual predators, copping conning abusing while using jyotish, or bullying a spiritual status on their victims. Some number of years ago a flamboyant guy who infamously was preying on MSAE age girls was threatened with arrest by a father then who was an attorney and the guy subsequently left Fairfield. Evidently more recently some guy who had been on Purusha was using jyotish and spiritual specialness to sexually predate young women and also conning money, the guy evidently was evicted from Utopia Park and kicked off campus. Another longtime predator preying by specialness and general nuisance of the meditating community was purposely separated from the movement some long t
