[FairfieldLife] How Bushy Says thanks For the recount
Two Bush 2000 Florida recount aides were rewarded with top FEMA posts Reversing an eight-year crusade to rid the now-embattled Federal Emegency Management Agency of political patronage, a newly elected George W. Bush in 2001 named two key players in his Florida recount fight to important FEMA posts. Neither man, Jacksonville attorney Reynold Hoover (pictured at left) and Miami lawyer Mark Wallace, had any experience in emergency management before they were named by the Bush administration to FEMA, now under fire for its botched response to Hurricane Katrina. Hoover, a longtime "explosives expert" with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms who became a lawyer in 1996, is still with FEMA as its director of national security coordination. Wallace left the Bush administration in 2004 to become deputy manager of the president's re-election campaign, and is now a lobbyist. They are two more names to add to the list of political appointees and out-and-out hacks at FEMA. Many are calling for the firing of agency chief Michael Brown, the ousted head of a horse association who was hired at FEMA in 2001 along with his college roommate, top Bush advisor Joe Allbaugh. And it was reported yesterday that FEMA's No. 2 and No. 3 officials, Patrick Rhode and Scott Morris, are also former campaign aides. Consider this quote: "FEMA is widely viewed as a 'dumping ground,' a turkey farm, if you will, where large numbers of positions exist that can be conveniently and quietly filled by political appointment," the preliminary report said. "This has led to a situation where top officials, having little or no experience in disaster or emergency management, are creating substantial morale problems among careerists and professionals. " Appropriate in the wake of the agency's bungled efforts over the last 10 days in Louisiana and Mississippi? Yes -- but the above quote is from 1992, during the administration of George H.W. Bush. It came from a preliminary report from the staff of the House Appropriations Committee, and it was written before FEMA came under fire that year for a tardy response to Florida's Hurricane Andrew. (Note: Any article not linked came from the Nexis search engine.) The Andrew debacle was one of many factors in the first President Bush's failed re-election bid. They say that good government is good politics, and so when Bill Clinton arrived at the White House in 1993, he made a serious effort to rid FEMA of political hackery. Clinton hired a professional, James Lee Witt, to run the agency and that May Witt told a Senate Appropriations subcommittee, according to a Washington Post article, "that FEMA 'will not be doing business as usual' and that he was committed to making his organization 'one of the most respected agencies in this nation.' Did he succeed? Here's what the Atlanta Journal-Constitution wrote in a January 1996 editorial: FEMA has developed a sterling reputation for delivering disaster- relief services, a far cry from its abysmal standing before James Lee Witt took its helm in 1993. How did Witt turn FEMA around so quickly? Well, he is the first director of the agency to have emergency-management experience. He stopped the staffing of the agency by political patronage. He removed layers of bureaucracy. Most important, he instilled in the agency a spirit of preparedness, of service to the customer, of willingness to listen to ideas of local and state officials to make the system work better. But if Clinton and Witt stopped the staffing of FEMA by political patronage, George W. Bush re-started it within days of taking the oath of office -- rewarding some of the people who'd helped him become president in the grueling 2000 Florida recount. One of those was Wallace (pictured at left) -- a young lawyer who, according to a July 14, 2002, article by the Miami Herald's Carol Rosenberg -- "fought on behalf of the GOP in Palm Beach County during the butterfly ballot brouhaha." He was hired in 2001 as FEMA's general counsel and was the chief lawyer for the agency on its Sept. 11 recovery effort. After his 2004 stint as a top official in the Bush campaign, he was hired in March as a D.C. lobbyist for a Florida-based law firm, Akerman Senterfitt. Hoover, the former ATF agent turned attorney, was active in the Duval County GOP at the time of the Florida recount, and because a point man in the Jacksonville area. He initially served as FEMA's chief of staff for a time, but he's currently listed on the agency's organizational chart as director of the Office of National Security Coordination. Of course, we all know that Bush has rewarded a number of people who went to bat for him in Florida in 2000 with plum jobs. One of those is his new UN ambassador John Bolton, who -- as the Herald article reminds us -- "[burst] into a Tallahassee library on behalf of the Bush-Cheney campaign to stop a recount of Miami-D
[FairfieldLife] FEMA Head and former fired horse maid waited
FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit By TED BRIDIS, Associated Press WriterTue Sep 6, 7:33 PM ET The government's disaster chief waited until hours after Hurricane Katrina had already struck the Gulf Coast before asking his boss to dispatch 1,000 Homeland Security employees to the region and gave them two days to arrive, according to internal documents. Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security Secretary Mike Chertoff roughly five hours after Katrina made landfall on Aug. 29. Brown said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image" about the government's response for victims. Before then, FEMA had positioned smaller rescue and communications teams across the Gulf Coast. But officials acknowledged Tuesday the first department-wide appeal for help came only as the storm raged. Brown's memo to Chertoff described Katrina as "this near catastrophic event" but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, "Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities." The initial responses of the government and Brown came under escalating criticism as the breadth of destruction and death grew. President Bush and Congress on Tuesday pledged separate investigations into the federal response to Katrina. "Governments at all levels failed," said Sen. Susan Collins (news, bio, voting record), R-Maine. Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said Brown had positioned front-line rescue teams and Coast Guard helicopters before the storm. Brown's memo on Aug. 29 aimed to assemble the necessary federal work force to support the rescues, establish communications and coordinate with victims and community groups, Knocke said. Instead of rescuing people or recovering bodies, these employees would focus on helping victims find the help they needed, he said. "There will be plenty of time to assess what worked and what didn't work," Knocke said. "Clearly there will be time for blame to be assigned and to learn from some of the successful efforts." Brown's memo told employees that among their duties, they would be expected to "convey a positive image of disaster operations to government officials, community organizations and the general public." "FEMA response and recovery operations are a top priority of the department and as we know, one of yours," Brown wrote Chertoff. He proposed sending 1,000 Homeland Security Department employees within 48 hours and 2,000 within seven days. Knocke said the 48-hour period suggested for the Homeland employees was to ensure they had adequate training. "They were training to help the life-savers," Knocke said. Employees required a supervisor's approval and at least 24 hours of disaster training in Maryland, Florida or Georgia. "You must be physically able to work in a disaster area without refrigeration for medications and have the ability to work in the outdoors all day," Brown wrote. The same day Brown wrote Chertoff, Brown also urged local fire and rescue departments outside Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi not to send trucks or emergency workers into disaster areas without an explicit request for help from state or local governments. Brown said it was vital to coordinate fire and rescue efforts. Meanwhile, the airline industry said the government's request for help evacuating storm victims didn't come until late Thursday afternoon. The president of the Air Transport Association, James May, said the Homeland Security Department called then to ask if the group could participate in an airlift for refugees. ___ The storm had passed by Tuesday evening. Kelly tried to defuse any sense that he had been criticizing the President. "The President and Secretary of Defense did authorize us to act right away and are not to blame on this end," he remarked. "Yes, we have to wait for authorization, but it was given in a timely manner." On Tuesday Aug. 30, the Pentagon also announced it would send five ships to the disaster zone, though some were several days away. This appears to be somewhat different from Kelly's initial assessment that search and rescue could begin "almost immediately." On Wednesday, military transport planes began to carry some wounded to Houston. Full relief supplies did not arrive in New Orleans until Friday -- some three days after Kelly says they were authorized by President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld. As many as 10,000 may be dead in the wake of the storm. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join
[FairfieldLife] A List of O'REILLY Lies even made Newt sick
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[FairfieldLife] Katrina- Lets get the timeline correct MDixon
BATON ROUGEToday Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco forwarded a letter to President Bush requesting that he declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina. The full text of the letter follows: August 27, 2005 The President The White House Washington, D. C. Through: Regional Director FEMA Region VI 800 North Loop 288 Denton, Texas 76209 Dear Mr. President: Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing. The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina. In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under State law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in order to support the evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the state to support the State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan. Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal. Preliminary estimates of the types and amount of emergency assistance needed under the Stafford Act, and emergency assistance from certain Federal agencies under other statutory authorities are tabulated in Enclosure A. The following information is furnished on the nature and amount of State and local resources that have been or will be used to alleviate the conditions of this emergency: Department of Social Services (DSS): Opening (3) Special Need Shelters (SNS) and establishing (3) on Standby. Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH): Opening (3) Shelters and establishing (3) on Standby. Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (OHSEP): Providing generators and support staff for SNS and Public Shelters. Louisiana State Police (LSP): Providing support for the phased evacuation of the coastal areas. Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (WLF): Supporting the evacuation of the affected population and preparing for Search and Rescue Missions. Mr. President Page Two August 27, 2005 Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD): Coordinating traffic flow and management of the evacuations routes with local officials and the State of Mississippi. The following information is furnished on efforts and resources of other Federal agencies, which have been or will be used in responding to this incident: FEMA ERT-A Team en-route. I certify that for this emergency, the State and local governments will assume all applicable non-Federal share of costs required by the Stafford Act. I request Direct Federal assistance for work and services to save lives and protect property. (a) List any reasons State and local government cannot perform or contract for performance, (if applicable). (b) Specify the type of assistance requested. In accordance with 44 CFR § 206.208, the State of Louisiana agrees that it will, with respect to Direct Federal assistance: 1. Provide without cost to the United States all lands, easement, and rights-of-ways necessary to accomplish the approved work. 2. Hold and save the United States free from damages due to the requested work, and shall indemnify the Federal Government against any claims arising from such work; 3. Provide reimbursement to FEMA for the non-Federal share of the cost of such work in accordance with the provisions of the FEMA-State Agreement; and 4. Assist the performing Federal agency in all support and local jurisdictional matters. In addition, I anticipate the need for debris removal, which poses an immediate threat to lives, public health, and safety. Pursuant to Sections 502 and 407 of the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5192 & 5173, the State agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the United States of America for any claims arising from the removal of debris or wreckage for this disaster. The State agrees that debris
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Islamic Enemy Believes This: That 9/11 was a U.S...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/1/05 10:01:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > One could reply that Karl Rove is obviously pulling a sleight-of- > hand maneuver, creating a straw-dog "liberal pansy" to heap scorn on > and distract one from the facts: 1) Something stinks about the > government version of 9/11 itself, and 2) Iraq had nothing to do > with 9/11 and had no Al Qaeda blocs there -- although it certainly > does now :-) > > But this, too, is just another story of course :-) > > > > Or you might try reading the speech and putting what he said in context. Maybe this context "He's right. We want to understand," In response to Karl Rove's assertion that liberals were trying to empathize with the 9/11 terrorists. "We want to understand why Osama Bin- Laden hasn't been captured. Why did the administration take its eyes off al-Qaida to invade Iraq? I mean, al-Qaida is the enemy Rove himself said we had to defeat. But we haven't. Instead of defeating our enemies, we went to war against an impotent enemy Saddam Why won't they level with the American people, and give an honest assessment of what's going on in Iraq and Afghanistan? I don't understand how our nation, always the good guys, is now perceived as the `bad guy' the world over. I don't understand how torture has become a commonplace occurrence inside facilities that bear the stars and stripes." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Onward Christian Soldiers
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[FairfieldLife] Scientology's ethics of "Fair Game"
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine is > > absurd. The elimination of > > > smallpox, polio (almost) and the reduction of many other horrific > > diseases seems to me to > > > be a crowning achievement of that terrible school of medicine you > > seem to hate. How > > > about those terrible antibiotics? How many millions did they save?? > > Those saved by > > > penicillin and better drugs don't walk around with a sign that says > > I would be dead from > > > TB or just a tooth abscess if it was not for ..mycin. > > > > Easy, One. Sorry I got you so stirred up. I don't condemn all of > > western medicine and the examples you give above are good ones. But > > this country is too dependent on drugs to "handle" every little thing. > > Let's handle why people get ill or look for spiritual/psychosomatic > > causes before we dive for the medicine cabinet. > > > > > > > As far as psychotropic medicines go they do not work for everyone. > > They can have terrible > > > results for some people. They can also bring people back from the > > horrors of depression > > > and psychosis. I have seen someone brought back from psychotic > > depression by Zoloft. > > > > I got it. From my experience the long term "results" of these drugs > > are not good. I've posted my anecdotal experiences over the last 5 > > years previously. > > As I remember, your experience is drawn from a population in which > people who are depressed and have not found relief with SSRI's or > other "supplements" and are seeking (at the Scient ology Center) some > alternative solutions. Do you seriously extrapolate your sample from > this self-sampling population to be representative of society as a > whole? It seems that drawing rom your population you would find, um, > lets see: people who are depressed and have not found relief with > SSRI's or other "supplements" and are seeking some alternative solutions. > > > > My bottom line is this: there is too much drug > > use in this country. > > Based on real statistical studies? Or on your highly biased (used as a > technical term) extrapolation discussed above? > > > > If a non drug approach works, why not try that > > first? > > Sure. But lots of people have tried lots of things and don't find > relief until they try SSRI's. By 'a non-drug appraach", i am guessing > you don't really mean exercise, or counseling or herbs, or diet, or > volunteer work, or more sleep, etc. but rather your solution of > choice: Scientology. If you are suggesting that all people should try > scientology before SSRI's I find that amusing. > > > I ask you - Does anyone NOT know someone who is on an anti > > depressant? It's an epidemic > > I fail to see your logic here. I could in parallel fashion say "Does > anyone NOT know someone who wears blue jeans occaisionally?!" Its an > epidemic! We Must do something. And by the way, I have just the thing" > > Hidden in rhetoric appears (perhaps) to be the same slanted "steering" > many of us have done in the past -- been there, done that -- but I > like free and open non-agenda driven inquiry better now, thanks. Every assumption you have made concerning me is incorrect or just incoherent. What makes you think I have anything to do with scientology? In any case I will just stick to incoherent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Supposedly hand-washing has saved more lives than all the antibiotics > in the world. And every other industrialized nation has banned > mercury/thimerosal except the US. Denial just doesn't cut it. > > Sal > > > On Jun 16, 2005, at 2:15 PM, easyone200 wrote: > > > How > > about those terrible antibiotics? How many millions did they save?? So you are going to tell someone with TB or with a fever of 103 from a bacterial infection to go wash their hands?? You are truly an idiot. I was not defending thimerosal or mercury in any way go back and read what I said. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Good article on autism-mercury
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Posting this because we¹ve often haggled over this topic: > > > > A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > Deadly immunity > > When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have > caused > > autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the > data -- > > and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the > > epidemic. > > > "Better living" through chemistry. Allopathy has proven it ain't > really the best way to go. See how many of the school "shooters" were > on psychotropics. The drug companies are mainly about $. Let the Drs. > stitch skin and set bones. If you're ready to die, head for a > hospital. Most of them will be glad to accomodate. > Jeff Where is the article. There have been many studies done about mercury in vaccines. The studies were done in different countries and not beholden to the drug companies. There was no link shown between the mercury in these vaccines and autism in the general population of children. What has been discovered is a subset population of children with a metabolic deficiency that disallows them to clear mercury at the rate as other people. A small amount of mercury is cleared from our bodies naturally by the glutathione metabolic pathway. Many autistic children show a deficit in this pathway. So it is not just the mercury in vaccines that is the problem for them, it is the general increase of mercury in the environment that is the bigger problem for them it is also a problem for the rest of us as well. Mercury in a bio-available form is one of the most toxic substances on the planet. Having said that, for you to condemn all western medicine is absurd. The elimination of smallpox, polio (almost) and the reduction of many other horrific diseases seems to me to be a crowning achievement of that terrible school of medicine you seem to hate. How about those terrible antibiotics? How many millions did they save?? Those saved by penicillin and better drugs don't walk around with a sign that says I would be dead from TB or just a tooth abscess if it was not for ..mycin. As far as psychotropic medicines go they do not work for everyone. They can have terrible results for some people. They can also bring people back from the horrors of depression and psychosis. I have seen someone brought back from psychotic depression by Zoloft. Look up this mental illness and see what a party it is. When you see something help such misery you might not be so quick to condemn it. What do you think the suicide rate is for psychotic depression without these drugs is? The world is not so black and white on this issue as you seem to think. Drug companies can be greedy and act irresponsibly. Nobody should condone that behavior and when caught those responsible should be prosecuted and sent to jail with the rest of the criminals. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Terri Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. > > The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely > brain-damaged woman > > was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have > reversed her > > condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. > > > > She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the > wack-pack fundies. > > The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of > abuse or trauma" -- > > allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary > Schindler, against her > > husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. > > > > The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony > "responses" of Teri to > > commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they > truly were, the lies > > and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had > less than half a brain and > > no functioning visual cortex. > > > > A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the > autopsy said Schiavo's > > brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 > pounds]." Her brain was > > profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was > dead, he said. > > "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of > therapy or treatment > > would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." > > > > I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's > of the world alive. If > > C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would > look a little too > > much like. > > I wonder how much of that brain weight loss was due to 19 days (or 11, > whatever it was) without water. I guess that the brain would be the > last to give up water but I don't know. Has it ever been studied? > > JohnY It weighed less because the structures were not there, as in missing. The tissue had been reabsorbed by the body after it died due to oxygen deprivation years earlier. As to how much water an intact brain looses during dehydration I don't know. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Terri Schiavo
What a surprise, all those wacky right to lifer' were wrong. The autopsy of Terri Schiavo found no evidence that the severely brain-damaged woman was strangled or abused and that no amount of therapy would have reversed her condition, a medical examiner said Wednesday. She also was not abused by her husband, another favored ploy of the wack-pack fundies. The medical examiner said his examination turned up "no sign of abuse or trauma" -- allegations leveled by Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, against her husband and legal guardian, Michael Schiavo. The editing of 50 hours or so of video tape to get the phony "responses" of Teri to commands and her tracking eye movements are now seen as what they truly were, the lies and political side show of the christian right wing nuts. She had less than half a brain and no functioning visual cortex. A report from a neuropathologist who served as a consultant to the autopsy said Schiavo's brain was "grossly abnormal and weighed only 615 grams [1.35 pounds]." Her brain was profoundly atrophied," he said.The vision center of her brain was dead, he said. "This damage was irreversible," said Dr. Thogmartin. "No amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons." I can however, understand why these fundies want to keep the Terri's of the world alive. If C.A.T. scans were taken of fundie church members brains they would look a little too much like. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Enlightened People in Past History...tried to bring enlightenment.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, like usual I have gotten over the obvious crassness of TMO and > appreciate it again. I'm a double Libra so I have this problem of seeing both sides of everything at a glance. I therefore have to usually use my heart to decide what to do. Do you think your point of view(s) are influenced by the various recreational psychotropic chemicals floating around your brain and their decay rates??? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Every Day in Iraq/Drained Blood and Money...'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I heard that is hitting the streets is more like the stuff availble in > Pakastan, and that is "Black Tar Opium", very potent and very cheap; the same stuff that took China down, back in the day... > > Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:46 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Every Day in Iraq/Drained Blood and Money...' > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Gulf Wars are not just about oil, they're also about having a > power base to control the action in those areas. Oil? Nah, heroin. And > oil. And weapons. > > Yeah bu the thirst for oil is the precursor to the rest...no economic > interest, not as many weapons, and protecting the heroin trade would > also be done underground as always...vs. open warfare. > > ---In the Sunday Times Picayune was an article about how the local police > are told to step down the war on opium producers by the US. Instead of destroying all the product they were only able to destroy 30%. Actually it was syndicated from the LA Times. Article was called, "Afghan Police Losing War Against Drug Trade - U.S. allies amongst corrupt officials springing suspects." Sunday June 10th. "Kunduz, Afghanistan - Like a frustrated hunter, the leader of the anti-drug squad in Kunduz keeps snapshots of the ones who got away..." Yada Yada, no real news there as the drug trade on our own streets is owned and run by the covert agencies of the USA, who need the money for their black ops. Crack cocaine hit the streets during Contragate. Now heroin is the main drug around. US supported drug trafficking is not clandestine It's right in the paper for those with eyes to read. > > The whole 9/11 shit was about having a reason to go into Afghanistan and to > carve our piece of the pie with regards to the Caspian Sea oil reserve and also the Gulf re the same thing. But not because we need the oil or couldn't make some other substitute but to keep the rest of the world from getting it and then having a monopoly. Petrolium is not just about gasoline but about plastics and nylon and many other products which we as a nation are addicted to. > > It's all about power. Who controls what. If you don't have it, then it's > better to destroy your opponent's ability to have it then to have them have it and you be left out. Of course it's really about Christian power here in the US and in those European nations which are still white. White Christian power wedded to the Great Beast - the dinosaur corpses from which oil comes from which we are able to mass produce. > > Commerce and power support the myth of stability in a world that is a game > for those who conquer. The world stage is poised to overthrow US enterprise, so our forward thinking political engineers got their foot in the door across the world to keep us in the game. It's not right. In fact it's dead wrong. > > So enjoy your Doritos, like I am, before the karma comes back. Make your > peace today so that tomorrow wont find you bewildered. That's the Bardo instructions. Be not attached to the game. If you're not attached then you have folded your hand and you can watch from the sidelines as the others beat themselves to death. At this point it's not who wins or loses because the winner will still get mugged in the alley. > > As it says in Esdras 2 - The eagle will be entirely burnt. > > I'm actually not whacko. I just really dig watching prophecy work itself out. > C'mon, I'm like you guys. I spent many years meditating and thinking through all sorts of esoteric stuff. I have read and reread all the prophecies that there are and found them to all fit together. > > I mean, even if I do believe the world is going to go to apocalypse then that > doesn't make me any weirder than most other people. Does it? I wish I didn't believe it. But it does make it easier for me as far as appreciating today, and not getting too caught up in making grand plans. As my stake is therefore limited I don't get as bent out of shape. Take it as it comes, eh? I am taking it as it comes, just like Maharishi said to do. I just love you conspiracy folks who weave together disparate facts and outright lies to come up with these vast conspiracies. Wouldn't it be nice if all that happenes in the world were controlled by someone, even if it is by evil forces in back rooms of the seats of power. The world is very chaotic and not some scripted play. Shit happens. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*>
[FairfieldLife] Re: MJ Not Guilty on All Counts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yea! > > > > Does anyone have any contacts in his camp or record company? > > A sugestion that he might participate in Live8 might go down > > well. He will have a short while to recuperate and could do > > a token something: > > http://www.live8live.com/theconcerts/index.shtml > > Nah, he needs to fall back and regroup for a long while. Not all public I's > will be supportive > of him just yet and may never be. His first words after the verdict were "praise the lord and pass the grandchildren" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > snip > > >This guy I am sure of. Do you defend all gurus just because they say > something. Are any > > destructive in your book? You come up with plenty of excuses for > abhorrent behavior. > > What I am saying is that as you progress on the spiritual path every > flaw you have is going to be exposed. It takes alot of courage IMO to > face them, deal with them and attempt to bring them into balance. > Hopefully one's teacher is not malevolent. I am sure some are. I > would not make any excuse for that, obviously. But even assuming you > have a *good* teacher*, you still keep your eyes wide open and proceed > accordingly. Pretty much boiler plate. > > lurk Perhaps you should balance your opinions of "gurus" and not attack those that have legitimate issues with "gurus" behavior. Your slant is very apparent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > snip > > I knew a few friends who got involved with this > > psychopath and they came to bad destructive ends. Freddy was not the > only suicide. > > It is too bad that the spirtual path does not come with flashing > CAUTION signs because at every step of the way you can find yourself > in some kind of free fall or another. I'm not sure I would lay this > at the feet of the teacher. > > lurk This guy I am sure of. Do you defend all gurus just because they say something. Are any destructive in your book? You come up with plenty of excuses for abhorrent behavior. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Desires and Enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter: > > > Lurk, have you read Unc's stories about his experiences with > > Rama? Very well written and interesting. I'm sure Unc has the link. > > Lurk: > > So far I've read the first one where he describes mostly in Lenz's > > (Ramas) own words some tenants of Buddhism, mechanics of spiritual > > growth and kundalini, with particular attention to performance of > > the siddhis. > > > > No where have I read a simpler explanation of how the siddhis are > > done. I believe he referred to two different types or functions of > > kundalini - one for higher growth, one for flash or siddhis. I've > > never heard the eastern (Indian) teachers discuss it in these > > terms. Almost like they don't understand them themselves. And > > this guy, Rama, actually demonstrated them, as though they were > > no big deal, which of course they aren't (at least as far as real > > spiritual growth is concerned). > > > > Rama's life (and death), took some funny twists and turns, but I've > > been impressed with what I have learned about him so far, which > > admittedly is not much. (But then again, I have come to trust some > > of the first impressions I have about something) > > Nicely said. And you took IMO a wise path through the > stories in my book. If you're really interested in > Rama, probably the best feel you'll get for him from > my book is the chapter that is all in his words, trans- > criptions of some talks that he let me record. It's at: > > http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm03.html > > Unc Freddy, A classic huckster ready and willing to use and abuse an audience of primed guru worshiping followers. People who are ready to see and believe anything to re-enforce their myth. No Freddy miracles on camera?? I knew a few friends who got involved with this psychopath and they came to bad destructive ends. Freddy was not the only suicide. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bush's Lasting Legacy
Richest Are Leaving Even the Rich Far Behind When F. Scott Fitzgerald pronounced that the very rich "are different from you and me," Ernest Hemingway's famously dismissive response was: "Yes, they have more money." Today he might well add: much, much, much more money. The people at the top of America's money pyramid have so prospered in recent years that they have pulled far ahead of the rest of the population, an analysis of tax records and other government data by The New York Times shows. They have even left behind people making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Call them the hyper-rich. They are not just a few Croesus-like rarities. Draw a line under the top 0.1 percent of income earners - the top one-thousandth. Above that line are about 145,000 taxpayers, each with at least $1.6 million in income and often much more. The average income for the top 0.1 percent was $3 million in 2002, the latest year for which averages are available. That number is two and a half times the $1.2 million, adjusted for inflation, that group reported in 1980. No other income group rose nearly as fast. The share of the nation's income earned by those in this uppermost category has more than doubled since 1980, to 7.4 percent in 2002. The share of income earned by the rest of the top 10 percent rose far less, and the share earned by the bottom 90 percent fell. Next, examine the net worth of American households. The group with homes, investments and other assets worth more than $10 million comprised 338,400 households in 2001, the last year for which data are available. The number has grown more than 400 percent since 1980, after adjusting for inflation, while the total number of households has grown only 27 percent. The Bush administration tax cuts stand to widen the gap between the hyper-rich and the rest of America. The merely rich, making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, will shoulder a disproportionate share of the tax burden. President Bush said during the third election debate last October that most of the tax cuts went to low- and middle-income Americans. In fact, most - 53 percent - will go to people with incomes in the top 10 percent over the first 15 years of the cuts, which began in 2001 and would have to be reauthorized in 2010. And more than 15 percent will go just to the top 0.1 percent, those 145,000 taxpayers. The Times set out to create a financial portrait of the very richest Americans, how their incomes have changed over the decades and how the tax cuts will affect them. It is no secret that the gap between the rich and the poor has grown, but the extent to which the richest are leaving everyone else behind is not widely known. The Treasury Department uses a computer model to examine the effects of tax cuts on various income groups but does not look in detail fine enough to differentiate among those within the top 1 percent. To determine those differences, The Times relied on a computer model based on the Treasury's. Experts at organizations representing a range of views, including the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute and Citizens for Tax Justice, reviewed the projections and said they were reasonable, and the Treasury Department said through a spokesman that the model was reliable. The analysis also found the following: ¶Under the Bush tax cuts, the 400 taxpayers with the highest incomes - a minimum of $87 million in 2000, the last year for which the government will release such data - now pay income, Medicare and Social Security taxes amounting to virtually the same percentage of their incomes as people making $50,000 to $75,000. ¶Those earning more than $10 million a year now pay a lesser share of their income in these taxes than those making $100,000 to $200,000. ¶The alternative minimum tax, created 36 years ago to make sure the very richest paid taxes, takes back a growing share of the tax cuts over time from the majority of families earning $75,000 to $1 million - thousands and even tens of thousands of dollars annually. Far fewer of the very wealthiest will be affected by this tax. The analysis examined only income reported on tax returns. The Treasury Department says that the very wealthiest find ways, legal and illegal, to shelter a lot of income from taxes. So the gap between the very richest and everyone else is almost certainly much larger. The hyper-rich have emerged in the last three decades as the biggest winners in a remarkable transformation of the American economy characterized by, among other things, the creation of a more global marketplace, new technology and investment spurred partly by tax cuts. The stock market soared; so did pay in the highest ranks of business. One way to understand the growing gap is to compare earnings increases over time by the vast majority of taxpayers - say, everyone in the lower 90 percent - with those at the top, say, in the uppermost 0.01 p
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY - now different? (was Celibacy - the Truth!)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some thing the current MMY is a walk-in. That the original one > > > left some time ago. > > > > > > I have a close friend, who has experienced two walk-ins. I met her > > when she was under the influence of the first walk-in. When the second > > walk-in took over I had very difficult to get along with her at all, > > and finally broke up with her. Now the walk-ins have left and we are > > friends again. > > (Passing along a good one-liner from a spiritual teacher) > > Another term for this is PMS. :-) > > Unc Did they leave a tip? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About one out of every million college students is killed on-campus > every year: > http://www.uga.edu/safeandsecure/intro.html > > There are about 15 million college students on U.S. campuses: > http://www.collegerecruiter.com/pages/ratecard.html > > > So make sure you're packing when you're on campus: > http://www.cnn.com/US/9707/06/briefs/armed.campus/ > Bobananda OH Cosmic Blame Shifter How can you hold in one mortal frame the endless people and scenarios responsible for the imprisonment and tricking of your master Maharishi. The TRUE COSMIC MASTER!! Tricked by the super evil genius Bevan and his cohorts. What vast dark intelligence must be at work in the fat form of BEVAN. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > MUM is not a dangerous place. The incident was a tragedy that > could > > > have > > > happened anywhere. It is very easy to be wise in hindsight and > > > indulge the > > > desire to find someone to blame. > > > > > > > MUM is more dangerous because of the unqualified personnel > available to confront > > dangerous situations. Just as in a hostage situation the outcome > is much more likely to end > > with no harm with a skilled negotiator on the scene. A mental > health professional would have > > easily seen the potential danger and Sem could have been removed > from the University and > > other students. 20/20 hindsight not required just competence. > > > How many small Universities have this kind of staff available? How many universities have at their core a bizarre religious cult mentality that claims to solve all problems personal and worldwide by repeating a word in their head. Stigmatizing and shunning any other mental treatment options as "off the program" in their lingo. An EMT tech could have seen the danger in this case no postgrad degrees needed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of Capitalism
You have to love the right wings top "wrong book list" especially John Maynard Keynes' seminal "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" Making the cut!! JONATHAN CHAIT The Right's Wrong Books June 3, 2005 I try very, very hard not to think of the conservative movement as a gaggle of thick-skulled fanatics. To help me along in this process, I seek out well-reasoned commentary from conservative intellectuals such as Tod Lindberg of the Washington Times and Ramesh Ponnuru of the National Review. But my efforts at ideological toleration inevitably get spoiled when something comes along like Human Events magazine's list of the "Ten Most Harmful Books of the 19th and 20th Centuries." Human Events is a conservative weekly that Ronald Reagan was known to favor, and which the Wall Street Journal called a "bible of the right." It compiled its list by polling a panel of conservative academics (such as Robert George of Princeton University) and Washington think-tank types (such as Fred Smith of the Competitive Enterprise Institute). As such, it offers a fair window into the dementia of contemporary conservative thinking. One amusing thing about the list is its seeming inability to distinguish between seminal works of social science and totalitarian manifestos. Marx, Hitler and Chairman Mao sit alongside pragmatist philosopher John Dewey and sex researcher Alfred Kinsey. You'll be comforted to know that Mao, with 38 points and a No. 3 ranking, edged out Kinsey, with 37 points. "The Feminine Mystique," meanwhile, checks in at No. 7, with 30 points, just behind "Das Kapital," which totaled 31 points. Harmful books that got honorable mentions but couldn't crack the top 10 include John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty," Sigmund Freud's "Introduction to Psychoanalysis" and Charles Darwin's "The Descent of Man." Oh yes, and Lenin's "What Is to Be Done." (If you don't see the link between arguing for individual rights, exploring scientific mysteries and constructing a brutally repressive Bolshevik terror state, then clearly you're not thinking like a conservative.) Interestingly, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," a czarist forgery that incited countless massacres and inspires anti-Semites around the world to this day, failed to rate a mention. On the other hand, "Unsafe at Any Speed" and "Silent Spring," which led to such horrors as seat belts and the Clean Water Act, did. (Given that "Unsafe at Any Speed" launched the career of Ralph Nader, who went on to put George W. Bush in the White House, I wonder if conservatives might one day deem it one of the most helpful books of the last two centuries.) Possibly even more amusing are the explanations for each book's inclusion. They read like 10th-grade book reports from some right-wing, bizarro world high school. John Maynard Keynes' seminal "The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money" argued that during recessions governments should cut interest rates, reduce taxes and increase spending, and during expansions do the opposite. It makes the list because, Human Events explains, "FDR adopted the idea as U.S. policy, and the U.S. government now has a $2.6-trillion annual budget and an $8-trillion debt." (But didn't Keynesian policies help win World War II and then produce 25 years of phenomenal prosperity? And wasn't that debt less than a trillion dollars before Reagan took office?) The squib on "The Feminine Mystique" begins with a fairly anodyne summary of Betty Freidan's pioneering feminist tract. Rather than explain what's so dangerous about allowing women the choice of having a career, though, Human Events proceeds to quote a review that "Friedan was from her college days, and until her mid-30s, a Stalinist Marxist." Not just a Stalinist, but a Marxist to boot! Personally, I fail to see how Friedan's communist past she was 42 when she published "The Feminine Mystique" would discredit her insights about the repressive nature of a world in which women were discriminated against or barred outright from most professions and much of public life. Especially because the conservative movement was itself heavily salted with ex-communists. But then, my mind has already been poisoned by Dewey, Mill and other liberal relativists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The most fascinating thing I find about the list is that > there are several of the world's billionaires -- mainly > from old money -- that they cannot find a photograph of. > In my book, that shows incredible wisdom on the part of > those people. No one knows what they look like, so they > can go wherever they want and do whatever they want with- > out the need for bodyguards and paranoia that often goes > along with having that amount of money. > > Unc > Why would they want publicity? It seems like common sense not wisdom. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Group unavailable (Rick Archer)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/4/05 1:43 PM, johnlasher20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > the group is frequently very slow or unavailable. This seems to be a > > recent problem but makes it impossible to go through messages is there > > something that can be done about this? > > > Anyone else experiencing this? I usually read mine via email, so I don't > encounter this problem. Are other websites slow for you? Do you read other > Yahoo groups and are they slow, or just this one? >From what I have read bandwidth limitations are possible thru-out the signal >path for many reasons. Free service comes to my mind in this case. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: M.U.M. murder trial set to begin Tuesday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MUM is not a dangerous place. The incident was a tragedy that could > have > happened anywhere. It is very easy to be wise in hindsight and > indulge the > desire to find someone to blame. > MUM is more dangerous because of the unqualified personnel available to confront dangerous situations. Just as in a hostage situation the outcome is much more likely to end with no harm with a skilled negotiator on the scene. A mental health professional would have easily seen the potential danger and Sem could have been removed from the University and other students. 20/20 hindsight not required just competence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/3/05 6:46:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Actually, the best is a mix of capitalism and socialism. Pure laissez-faire > capitalism was tried > and failed when the US stock market crashed and we entered the great > Depression. Only > semi-socialistic protections like the Social Security Trust Fund and the > FDIC have prevented > similar catastrophes here. > > > > > Believe it or not I can agree pretty much with Easyone on this. I'm not > against a safety net or two as long as they aren't abused. Banking laws, > strictly > enforced, will do more to protect against great stock market crashes. It's more than a few banking laws Look, rich people have more power, fair enough? Money is Power, is that too far out for you? The more money you have, the easier it is to get more, OK? If this weren't true, there would be no need for a stock market. Every business would only need bootstraps. Am I sounding like a Commie yet? So the rich have more power, and like people in power throughout all of recorded history, they want to keep it that way. Rich people have more say when it comes to rule making time ( or do you disbelieve all the news about lobbyists, government/business revolving doors, and 500 years of Western history. Our Society has to work hard to maintain a regime of progressive taxation, redistribution of SOME wealth, and prohibition of bribery and graft. It's the only smart thing to do, to keep the demon fire of capitalism inside the fireplace, where it does the most good. Unbridle capitalism, and you'll have a wreck on your hands. Adam Smith said as much. It's true. The so-called "Free Market" fundamentalism that's been pushed for over 20 years now to the point where most people assume it must be true, is fully a crock. "The disadvantaged want the tools to help them become rich," Yeah sure, but more important is to keep the already rich mofos from stacking the deck against them. "A strong middle class makes the class warfare argument an anachronism" By "strong middle class" you must mean a middle class that is stable, secure and optimistic about the future. Check again. Is that the reality in the U.S.? "live more prosperous lives than their parents." Prosperity is a matter of perspective. I guarantee you that all your soothing talk doesn't change the anxiety and stress felt all though America at the state of current affairs. And you think it's not time to ramp up the "Class War." Mounting a "Class War" is like "Mounting a War" on tooth decay. Whether you get your war on or not, the bacteria keep growing. "Trickle Down Prosperity" is a crock. Give it up. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: "The next to go is capitalism"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 6/3/05 5:08:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Bill Gates has about $50 to 100 billion, at least on paper. There's > almost certainly people with more wealth than him, but they dont' make > it into the Fortune listing because it was inherited and is spread > around in less-than-obvious ways. > > > > > Quick grab your torches and pitchforks and we'll storm the gates of Microsft! Actually, the best is a mix of capitalism and socialism. Pure laissez-faire capitalism was tried and failed when the US stock market crashed and we entered the great Depression. Only semi-socialistic protections like the Social Security Trust Fund and the FDIC have prevented similar catastrophes here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unfair trade practices
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you suppose the profit is on a million-dollar > enlightenment course? Buyer beware or be stupid in this case. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: UK Fatwah News
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At minute 37 and following, MMY says in his press conference of > 11May2005 at http://mou.org/media/replay_pr.html that he does not want > to increase the lifespan of the destroyer of the world -- a healthier > scorpion is more capable of stinging the world... I feel the same way about mahesh the crook, who lives on money. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan's money
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wrote: > Death is no barrier to evolution, as MMY notes in his commentary on > verses 40-41 of Ch. 6 of the Gita. Regarding your question concerning > what enlightenment means, that's not exactly a mystery except on this > list: it means that one has gained unlimited awareness, and never > relinquishes it, not in sleep (or any other state), not in death of > the body. Boba-thumper You thump that gita with the best of 'em. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Braining damage causing psychic abilities, was: Unc the state coordinator
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In South America they have what are known as Lightening Shamans - > > > people who have been struck by lightening and kind of fried, but > > > who end up with psychic and other such abilities. > > > > == > > There was a book called Saved by the Light about a guy who had a near > > death experience after being struck by lightening. He claimed that > > afterward, he had certain psychic abilities. > > This is certainly possible, if on no other level than the > theory I once heard from some TM teacher as to why TM > "expands the mind." His rap was about neurons, and how > they work. Each neuron has X (a fairly large) number of > possible connections to the other neurons surrounding it. > > But brain chemistry is such that once a particular pathway > has been taken, it is more *likely* that it will be taken > next time. From this chemical tendency to "do the same > thing we did last time" arise patterns, and habits, and, of > course, samskaras. His theory was that what happened in > the brain when one transcends was that instead of all the > brain activity quieting down, *all* of the neural connec- > tions fired at once. This phenomenon is supposedly well > known in brain studies, and is *subjectively* perceived > as silence, just as "white noise," which is a random set > of all sounds and frequencies, is subjectively perceived > as relaxing, or even silence. > > So this guy's theory was that when we regularly fire off > all the neural connections at once, what we're doing on > the level of brain chemistry is allowing *different* paths > to be taken through the brain, "opening circuits" that > previously were not really used because of the chemical > tendency to follow past patterns. > > I don't know that any of this is true, but the idea struck > me at the time, and it would seem to me that being exposed > to a huge electrical field (being struck by lightning) > might have a similar effect. > > Unc None of this has any science to support it. Psychic abilities have nothing in science to support it. It is not repeatable or documented or peer reviewed. "Quieting down", what a nice term that means nothing. Lets not mix our religion with science jargon, it is an embarrassment. Strike yourself on the head with a hammer real hard , that will make you use some new circuits too. It is called brain damage. If you can scrounge up a bit of money with a book about it you are doing well. If you start a religion then you are a master. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain/TMO privatised?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your reply. And I am not a TM teacher so that is a moot > point. I probably agree with more of what you said than is apparent. > > However, do you really know what Maharishi's project plan is for the > enlightenment of the world? I don't. I know what the plan is.. The plan is to steal as much money as possible and to leave no paper trail. All else is moot, moot I say BWAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA. I say 'project plan' to > distiguish the actual mechanics from the objectives. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: England down the drain?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Bob, in your opinion, are these ideas springing from MMY, or is all > this stuff about England > > due to the bad and manipulative influence of Bevan and Hagelin? > > > > *** > > I don't believe you're getting the underlying point to what I'm > saying, and that is that the TMO can only proceed by fits and starts > in a dark and ignorant world. This necessity of this policy can only > be computed by divine intelligence, but it can be understood by > ordinary human reason after MMY said it: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light > > Having incompetent and dishonest and self-serving employees like > Bevan and Hagelin is part of the policy of the Divine Plan: > > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#snake > > > Did Maharishi initiate this policy toward England? Yup, that's clear > from the broadcast, but it does not mean that he gets honest and > accurate input from TM managers. However, once you understand the > necessity of a fits-and-starts approach to enlightening the world, > then it really does not matter how the TMO is slowed down, and if > some crises arise in England as a result of the suspension of TMO > activity there (and no yagyas in India directed toward the island), > then the value of TM/Vedic culture may be demonstrated. Regardless of > f-ups and missteps, either Vedic culture has got the goods or it > doesn't and we'll see whether it flies or not. > > As I mentioned previously, I now see anything that happens in the > West with the TMO to be of little relevance -- only India counts now, > and if Vedic culture is restored there, it will enlighten the world. > Nothing is guaranteed though, MMY has said in recent press > conferences that Vedic India could be "centuries" away: > > At one hour and 30 minutes into the 23Mar2005 press conference at > mou.org, Maharishi says that it may take centuries for the pundits > to restore Vedic civilization in India: > http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_23mar2005prt1_128 > (the following week MMY said it may be "hundreds of centuries.") Bob I am sure you are beyond noticing but this is a classic cult mentality of the infallibility of the cult leader. No matter what his action is (the leader maha in this case) or what results are obtained it's what was planned. Nice to know that you are taking the minutes of movement delusion tho. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Funnily Enough- Maharishi Yogi- Provides the Ultimate An...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 5/11/05 4:53:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > Maharishi announced today, in a world-wide internet broadcast, > > > that he is withdrawing his meditation movement, from Great > Britain, > > > being disappointed in the re-election of Tony Blair, saying he > is > > > not going to continue to support Britain's destructive policies, > and > > > give "Nectar to the Dragon." > > > Maharishi will move the "advanced meditators from Britain, to > > > " two, three, or four countries", other countries, in the coming > > > weeks, and will show the proven effects of meditation, to > produce > > > coherence in society, increased quality of life, creativity and > > > peace. > > > He said to notice the effect in Britain, of increasing chaos in > > > the collective consciousness, as the meditators are withdrawn > from > > > the country. > > > > > > > > > > > > M said back after the first Sidhi course that he might try this > option one > > > day. He said he might even tell all meditators stop > meditating... I guess for > > > a while. > > > > > > Notice he will still take donations from those nasty Brit's. > Perhaps M should leave the > > planet because his shitty meditation does not work properly. > > *** > > You did not listen to the complete meditation instructions that the > TM teacher gave you -- _you_ are supposed to first eat a bran muffin > and drink a cup of coffee before meditating, so you can have > an "easyone," which seems to be a pressing need on your part. That's right it's easy Bob. I don't get all bound up maintaining a world construct in which my great enlightened master is but a helpless victim of all the dopes and rejects he surrounds himself with. When you finally let go of your "it's everyone except my master" load there will be no evidence that you ever existed, just a few broken sewer pipes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Funnily Enough- Maharishi Yogi- Provides the Ultimate An...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/11/05 4:53:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Maharishi announced today, in a world-wide internet broadcast, > that he is withdrawing his meditation movement, from Great Britain, > being disappointed in the re-election of Tony Blair, saying he is > not going to continue to support Britain's destructive policies, and > give "Nectar to the Dragon." > Maharishi will move the "advanced meditators from Britain, to > " two, three, or four countries", other countries, in the coming > weeks, and will show the proven effects of meditation, to produce > coherence in society, increased quality of life, creativity and > peace. > He said to notice the effect in Britain, of increasing chaos in > the collective consciousness, as the meditators are withdrawn from > the country. > > > > M said back after the first Sidhi course that he might try this option one > day. He said he might even tell all meditators stop meditating... I guess > for > a while. Notice he will still take donations from those nasty Brit's. Perhaps M should leave the planet because his shitty meditation does not work properly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christianity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 5/9/05 11:22:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "...has Christianity, in fact, stood for a better morality than that of its > rivals and opponents? I do not see how any honest student of history can > maintain that this is the case. > > > Isn't this like comparing apples to oranges? Politics to religion. The > teachings of a religion are not always represented in the politics of the > nations > that follow that religion or religions. So to criticize a religion for the > politics observed by a nation that adheres to some degree to that religion > is > not exactly fair to the religion. I think if you were to look deeply into > the > causes of most so called religious wars you would probably find more local > politics than religion as the cause of the wars, yet it turns out to be > labeled one religion against another. Just a thought , I could be wrong. I'm not sure what time period you are speaking of but most countries were religious entities in the past ,state and church were one. Something that is again being pushed in this country today. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hate to say I told you so.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool. There is someone here that know's me. That rocks. I felt so alienated > having always to explain myself when obviously my motivation was just so patent and superficial and absurd. Playing music was obviously such a sin. That would make me a great sinner. I knew I was good at something. > > But in my defense, I only played music between programs at about 3 o clock. > And moreover I was the first person to live in that pod you mention. I don't know who or when you all decided it was a quiet pod. I was living there for months while it was being renovated. My one time arguing with soomeone over music it's true I told them to fuck off or put em up, which was plainly wrong, and I always regretted taking that muscular stance which was just so not me. That person must have been really naturally irritating to have struck me in such a manner as to make me want to kick their ass. I never fight. Or almost never. That is, twice in the last 20 years. > > Woohoo, I thought no one remembered me. I'm so psyched. So nothing I said > below was true because it's my goal in life to be obnoxious. That explains why I was at MIU in the first place too. Meditating on how to be obnoxious. I got that siddhi. Friendliness, compassion, obnoxiousness. The next one is steal money and feel OK, yeah that's it. Although I think that is MAHA's mantra. Right from the mahaveda. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM/mortality -- Journal of Cardiology
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://161.58.228.161/TM_and_mortality.pdf > > > > > > summary of results: > > > > > > http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-05/muom-tme042205.php > > > > > > It says on the last one that "Researchers collaborated on the study > > from Harvard, University of Iowa, Medical College of Georgia, West > > Oakland Health Center, and Maharishi University of Management. The > > study was funded, in part, by a grant from the National Institutes of > > Health's National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine." An 18 year study with 200 or so people? First of all that is an insignificant number for such a long study and second the protocol for tracking the variables in lifestyle of these people would be an undertaking far more complex than the study itself. I doubt if it was done properly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eugenics in America
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/30/05 2:22:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > To all members: > > Since many of you have been discussing Nature's process of culling > out humans, we should be aware that humans in the USA are practicing > eugenics, knowingly or unknowingly, for many decades now. George > Will wrote an article earlier this week stating that doctors > typically recommend a fetus to be aborted if tests show that it has > Down Syndrome. By the same token, this recommendation can be made > for fetuses with other inherent congenital defects, such as cleft > palates. > > This practice has caused concern for those people who have such > defects and are glad to be alive. They argue that people can lead > rewarding lives in spite of these defects. > > On the next level, there is an argument that abortion per se is a > form of eugenics. Although Congress has passed laws that allow for > abortions to be allowed, there is still another question to be > answered: Do the babies inside those wombs have rights too as written > in the Constitution? > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > And the next question is, "when does nature decide to cull the cullers?" Notice how the subject has been changed to abortion by the straw man technique. This whole argument has been taken to another subject with the premise that what we have been talking about and our positions now applies to abortion. You need a new act mdixon. The straw man is active when he makes this position "By the same token, this recommendation can be made for fetuses with other inherent congenital defects, such as cleft palates." This was not stated but is positioned as such. HMMM perhaps babies born with little more than brain stems should be kept alive, it can be done. Why was this not brought up? We would have tens of thousands on life support. We need rights for bran stem babies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/30/05 1:38:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Transparenly racist - what the h*ll is that ? I saw the words 'human > race' that means the whole thing not a particular group. > > JohnY > > > > > John Y hits the nail on the head! It was Human Race , which includes ALL > races! Yes, my comment was based upon Human atrocities in our times. which > included Tibetan, Africans, Cambodians, Chinese, Russians, Ukrainians, Poles > , > Jews and in America as well as many other countries, the unborn and soon > coming your way the elderly and infirm. The Human race is on a killing > spree. > Something Easyone would have agreed with me on earlier but saw a chance at a > "cheap shot" based upon my geo politics. For those that still follow every > word > that comes from the mouth of the master, All of the atrocities would be > natures way of purification, release of stress. M has always said wars are a > great > release of global stress. So MrFishy we now see you wear the glasses of > racism. Does this mean you see everything in the light of race?And of course > Easyone can blame the atrocities in Africa on Southern republicans. Your comment means whatever you want it to mean when is convenient for you. Sort of a straw man "advance team." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting state of mind yourself, easyone. Because I thought mrfishy > > > had misunderstood MDixon, in the space of 25 words you implied that I > > > was a racist, fundementalist, bigot - based on a '*' in the word hell. > > > > > > Nice, > > > JohnY > > > > Why did you put a * in hell? > > flicker of thought about Yahoo posting policies - I'll remember to > say hell from now on though (no smiley implied) I Hope you can see it as racist. The word human in this context has no effect on the racist intent. I hope you get the F*cking point! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Just the non-white ones first. It's all OK until they get around to > > > you. Also just an > > > > speculation that anybody who feels the need to put a * in e of the > > > word hell these days > > > > indicates a narrow fundamentalist mind of some sort. > > > > > > Much too much speculation on my state of mind ...based on a '*' - > > >Jesus ! > > > > ROTFLMAO - perhaps I should have put a ;-) after the word 'Jesus' > > Interesting state of mind yourself, easyone. Because I thought mrfishy > had misunderstood MDixon, in the space of 25 words you implied that I > was a racist, fundementalist, bigot - based on a '*' in the word hell. > > Nice, > JohnY Why did you put a * in hell? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Why? That doesn't mean that one condons the human agent. > > > > > > > > Using Tibet and Africa as our staring point, the phrase "...culling > > the human race" is transparently racist. I found Mr. Dixons suggestion > > inexcusable. It implies a position of superiority, one I believe heÕd > > be hard pressed to occupy were he and his family suddenly the oneÕs > > culled. Invoking "nature" as an active and just agent in the selective > > harvesting of the human race has historical precedents that prohibit > > intelligent dialogue. > > > > I mistakenly called his comments "absolutely" disgraceful; forgetting > > entirely the ecclesiastical reverence now attributed to a once lowly > > adjective. > > > > > > --- > > Transparenly racist - what the h*ll is that ? I saw the words 'human > race' that means the whole thing not a particular group. > > JohnY Just the non-white ones first. It's all OK until they get around to you. Also just an speculation that anybody who feels the need to put a * in e of the word hell these days indicates a narrow fundamentalist mind of some sort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The report we've been waiting for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mrfishey2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mdixon6569wrote> > Ever get the feeling nature is culling the human race? > > This is an absolutely disgraceful comment. What do you expect from a white southern republican? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maitreya and the Masters
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, Ben Creme concocted his nutcake based upon the supposed three hidden > masters of the Golden Dawn, later transformed by Blavatsky into the three hidden Tibetan masters and hence the Maitreya connection. OK, is Ben Creme, now that he has concocted his nut cake still on speaking terms with his brother Krispy? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Through the Fissures of Hell Comes Heaven
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I heard and rings true for me is that many souls are making the > adjustment to match their energy signatures to this new age. So if > they are off the planet now they can come back if their vibration > matches those that are here. If not, for most they will reincarnate > elsewhere. It's nice to know that someone like you has such a clear view of the workings of the universe. Ring a ding ding. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: News from the TM Front
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/23/05 11:21 PM, vashtirama at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > It has introduced some doubt, at that finest feeling level, in the > > quality of the TM instruction I originally received, because my > > initiator was of a different sex from me. But maybe all male > > initiators are, in some subtle way, better, since they were trained > > by MMY who is of their same sex. > > My initiator was Charlotte Peters, an older Austrian woman. I'm not worried > in the least about the quality of my instruction. I got my money's worth, > and then some. Maharishi just has an issue with the mixing of the sexes, > cause it didn't work out so well for him personally (or did, depending on > how you look at it). And of course, many traditions agree with him. > vashtirama at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also notice many men are slightly less easy being checked in a private room by a lady Yes, well, given the graying of the movement I'm not surprised that most men find the experience somewhat less than pleasurable. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] For you diehards out there
Is there any behavior, short of a video of Maharishi loading babies into a truck with a pitchfork that would give you pause and a reason to doubt him and his constantly failing projects, his egocentric view of the world and last but not least his unceasing drone for money that always disappears into the black hole of "international." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: local sex abuse trial
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/19/05 8:02:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Based on what has been said so far I'm inclined to believe Larry > Smith jr. > > What is the motive for the daughter to slander her father though? > >>> > > Duh?... Let me thinkmaybe he molested her, when he was steaming > drunk. > > > > > > Not to my understanding. The molestations were occurring as many as 5 times > a week. For how long? I guess that makes it OK then, he wasn't drunk and by your logic if it was 5 times a week she was into it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amen! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > After all, what > > earthly difference does it make to any of you what "state of > > consciousness" I (or any of us) may or may not be "in"? The only > > thing that really matters is where YOU are willing to stand. As to > > whether we may be delusional/deluding others -- when we get to the > > heart of it that is something we all have to decide for ourselves, > > whether we do that by choosing which texts or teachers or traditions > > we resonate with, or by simply following our own inner Truth, or by > > some combination thereof. > > > > :-) It's a hard call to make after just looking at the number of posts you three have made as to which one is the most severely mentally ill. I'll still put my money on that delusional little piss-ant rory. After this burst of attention from you two he will probably post away about everything for a good long while. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGG!!!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rory, Akasha, This shit is killing me! > > um, another one bites the dust? Hey Ahasha you are giving this moron just what he wants- attention drop it why don't you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Well we could ask Rick to check the IP addresses and see if anyone > > here has the same > > > address > > > > I'd laugh if i weren't crying, or vice versa > > > newsflash: > > Yahoo and the Internet community at large were shocked when Yahoo > Group leader Rick Archer looked at the IP addresses of his 800 plus > memers and found that they all had the same IP adrress from some > unknown server in SOWAKloka. (SOWAK apparently is an acconym for > "So-Called Awakened" -- not to be confused with SOWHAT or SOHUM). > Though it appears to be some sort of advanced spoofing, no one is > claiming credit. A prominent Florida psychologist, Dr. Peter Sutphen > -- outstanding in his field said, "This has nothing to do with > Consciousness. Consciousness is awake to itself." No one had a clue of > the relevance of this statement to the spoofing, but apparently Dr. > Sutphen is famous for such disconnects -- known to friends as the > "stoned dutch boy". Meanwhile, investigators are puzzled by the high > mercury levels found in one of the yahoo servers, and postings traced > to a Davie Tah -- with no IP address. Investigators are also following > leads that the favorite son of the Big Easy, ironically who is not > EasyOne, sent drugs to the server via a new packet switching method. I just think I OD'ed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, given what we know can anyone prove that easyone200 is NOT Rory? > Sure sounds like him...answering his own postings, etc. > > Jim > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > The Last time Rory was here and started with his endless ti-raid > of > > nonsensical > > > egomaniacal postings the only way we were able to get rid of him > was > > not to reply to his > > > rants. Eventually he packed up his ego into a semi-trailer and > went > > home. > > > > I am sorry we have been unable to find a meeting-ground, easyone. I > > would if i could. No hard feelings, eh? Well we could ask Rick to check the IP addresses and see if anyone here has the same address To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, Thanks for your reply and your honesty. I am sorry you don't > want to read Rory's postings and feel that they have or will > insinuate themselves into every thread here, but isn't that a little > like a vegetarian going to a steakhouse and complaining that there > isn't anything on the menu? > > What do you want to talk about instead? > > Jim > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I think in the final analysis there is much besides ego-mania (an > obsessive preoccupation > > with the self) If you think pain in the ass is better that is the > term I will use to describe > > someone who feels the need to answer his own post and as is his > pattern will get into > > every thread in here and it will be impossible to avoid his > ranting. I am glad you enjoy him, > > unfortunately the rest of us must endure his pebbles in our shoes. You are unable to get the point and I am not going to pursue it further with you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Rory Problem Redux
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A dissenting view: > > Perhaps you should read his "endless ti-raid of nonsensical > egomaniacal postings" more carefully. > > I find them to be exceptionally precise, very sensible, practical, > and accountable. I do agree that they are endless, and gladly so! > > "egomaniacal"? In the final analysis, what else is there? > > Merely because the pebbles of God that produce a Rory are arranged > differently than the pebbles of God that make up an easyone200, and > that Rory delights in speaking about the Unity of the pebbles of God > rather than the superficiality of 'different' arrangements, his > postings are 'egomaniacal'? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > The Last time Rory was here and started with his endless ti-raid > of nonsensical > > egomaniacal postings the only way we were able to get rid of him > was not to reply to his > > rants. Eventually he packed up his ego into a semi-trailer and > went home. I think in the final analysis there is much besides ego-mania (an obsessive preoccupation with the self) If you think pain in the ass is better that is the term I will use to describe someone who feels the need to answer his own post and as is his pattern will get into every thread in here and it will be impossible to avoid his ranting. I am glad you enjoy him, unfortunately the rest of us must endure his pebbles in our shoes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Rory Problem Redux
The Last time Rory was here and started with his endless ti-raid of nonsensical egomaniacal postings the only way we were able to get rid of him was not to reply to his rants. Eventually he packed up his ego into a semi-trailer and went home. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 10 Helpers...!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Want me to unsubscribe this Bhikku thing? I never read it. In fact, it goes > into my spam folder automatically. Probably because they send it to multiple > groups. Anyone in favor of keeping it? I like and read the Daily Inspiration > and the folks who publish it are friends of mine, but Cliff objected to it > and if the majority were to object, I would unsubscribe that too. I vote to > nix Bhikku and keep Daily Inspiration. Others opinions? > Who needs more spam. If I want to read that junk I would subscribe to it. How many preachy messages do we need. What is the cutoff 10 or 1000 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The 10 Helpers...!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bhikkhu Samahita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friends: > Ten Keys with Inherent Success: > > These 10 precious points should be fully Understood: > > 1: Enthusiastic effort in advantageous states greatly helps. > 2: Joyous Awareness of the body as only a transient form is to be > cultivated. > 3: Contact as the cause of mental fermentation & clinging is to be > recognized. > 4: The Conceit: 'I Am (my Own Body or Group)' is to be extracted & > eliminated. > 5: That Irrational Attention leads to loss & decline is to be thoroughly > known. > 6: Rational Attention, which discriminates cause & effect, is to be > directed to. > 7: That Immediate Absorption of mental Concentration is hard to penetrate > to. > 8: The Certainty of unshakable, & assured knowledge is to be sought & > reached. > 9: That all Being in Existence is maintained by Nutriment is to be fully > learnt. > 10: Absolute & Irreversible mental Release is to be realized & fully > entered. 11: Do you think the people in this group really needs preaching and recruitment by yet another group/guru? We are all filled up here thank you! > Dhamma-Questions sent to my email are quite Welcome. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Misconception: Thimerosal Causes Autism: Chelation Therapy Can Cure It
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 17, 2005, at 9:34 PM, easyone200 wrote: > > > This impairment manifests as a severe imbalance in the ratio of active > > to inactive > > glutathione, the body's most important tool for detoxifying and > > excreting metals. > > Glutathione works as an antioxidant, keeping in check the potentially > > destructive process > > of oxidative stress caused both by normal metabolism and environmental > > contaminants. > > Autistic children showed a significant impairment in every one of five > > measurements of the > > body's ability to maintain a healthy glutathione defense. > > Good point easy...they have been doing studies on this in India for > many years now (largely due to the large occupational and industrial > exposure to mercuric salts there) and have found that certain herbal > antioxidants will prevent this damage, up to a certain dose. Good, for a minute there Vaj I thought you were attempting to minimize the toxic nature of all forms of mercury. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Misconception: Thimerosal Causes Autism: Chelation Therapy Can Cure It
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/immu/thimerosal.html > > Misconception: Thimerosal Causes Autism: Chelation Therapy Can Cure It > > A few physicians have been promoting the idea that the mercury content > of vaccines is a cause of autism and that autistic children should > undergo chelation therapy to be detoxified. Lawsuits have been filed, > and several attorneys are advertising on the Internet for more clients. > The situation arose because until recently, certain vaccines contained > thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative that is no longer used in > tmost of the vaccines not recommended for children. However, there are > several reasons why concerns about the use of thimerosal in vaccines > are misguided: > The amounts of mercury involved were very small. > No link between mercury and autism has been proven. > There is no logical reason to believe that autism has a toxic > cause. > > Thimerosal has been used as preservative in biologics and vaccines > since the 1930s because it prevents bacterial and fungal contamination, > particularly in multidose containers. In 1999, an FDA review noted that > with the increased number of vaccines then recommended for infants, the > total amount of mercury in vaccines containing thimerosal might exceed > the levels recommended by other federal agencies [1]. The mercury > limits imposed by these agencies have a wide margin of safety; and > there was no information suggesting that any infant had been harmed. > Nevertheless, to be super-cautious, the U.S. Public Health Service > (PHS) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) asked doctors to > minimize exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines and manufacturers > to remove thimerosal from vaccines as soon as possible [2]. > > By mid-2000, thimerosal-free vaccines against hepatitis B and bacterial > meningitis were widely available. A combination vaccine for diphtheria, > pertussis, and tetanus is also available today without thimerosal. > Measles/mumps/rubella (MMR), chickenpox, inactivated polio, and > pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have never contained thimerosal. Thus, > except for some influenza vaccine, none of the vaccines now used to > protect preschool children against 12 infectious diseases contain > thimerosal as a preservative. Certain flu vaccines and > tetanus-diphtheria vaccines (Td) given to children age 7 and older > still contain thimerosal as a preservative. > > Before the recent reductions, the maximum cumulative exposure to > mercury via routine childhood vaccinations during the first six months > of life could have been 187.5 micrograms (which averages to about 1 > microgram per day. With the newly formulated vaccines, the maximum > cumulative exposure during the first six months of life should now > total no more than 3 micrograms of mercury [3]. No studies have shown > that either the old or the new amounts have any toxic effect. > > The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has compared the > incidence of autism with the amount of thimerosal received from > vaccines. Preliminary results indicated no change in autism rates > relative to the amount of thimerosal a child received during the first > six months of life (from 0 micrograms to greater than 160 micrograms). > A weak association was found with thimerosal intake and certain > neurodevelopmental disorders (such as attention deficit hyperactivity > disorder) in one study, but was not found in a subsequent study [4]. > Additional studies are planned, but it is unlikely that any significant > association will be found. > > An Institute of Medicine (IOM) committee, which issued a comprehensive > report in October 2001, found no proof of a link between > thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism, attention > deficit-hyperactivity disorder, speech or language delays, or other > neurodevelopmental disorders [5]. > > A study published in 2002 of infants who were 6 months of age or > younger compared the levels of mercury in the blood, hair, urine, and > stool of 40 who received vaccines containing thimerosal and 20 who > received vaccines without thimerosal. The study found: > Mercury levels in blood and urine were low in all infants > studied > and in many cases too small to measure. There was no observed > dose-dependent relationship between the level of thimerosal received > through vaccination and the level of mercury in the body. > Mercury levels in blood did not exceed, at any time, the > blood > levels that correspond to Environmental Protection Agency guidelines > for exposure. > Mercury levels in the stool of infants receiving vaccines > containing thimerosal were relatively high compared to mercury levels > in the stool of infants who were not exposed to thimerosal,
[FairfieldLife] Mercury deadly in all forms
Just in case anyone is interested in ingesting on of those ayurvedic potions containing supposedly "safe" mercury perhaps you should view this organizations website and the thousands of articles it makes available on the universal and deadly nature of mercury. http://www.mercuryexposure.org To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: On Maharishi Being a Thief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Even the thief in the night leaves a scrap of toilet paper. Maha > > strips you down to the > > > bones. so he probably is not the second coming. > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Sometimes the second coming uses the last scrap of toilet paper. > > > > This is so profoundly true on so many levels, it could be the > perfect > > sutra of the Dark Night of the Soul. (here, easyone -- these are > > specially for you :-) :-) :-) ;-) ) > > Oh GOD there he goes again, with his ENDLESS two-bit nonsensicals! I'm > with you, easyone -- let's throw this chirpy twirp out!!! > > Yer pal, uneasytoo Oh yeah, I forgot the goff ego is so huge it comments on its own posts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: On Maharishi Being a Thief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone think he's the Second Coming because Jesus said he would come > like a theif in the night. Even the thief in the night leaves a scrap of toilet paper. Maha strips you down to the bones. so he probably is not the second coming. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hedonistic Imperative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fascinating, and it is more interesting because it seems to outline religious > figures more than the average person. Consider the 'manic' person it paints with self tweaked chemicals and spending sprees, with religious visions and so on, to quote: > > "Sadly, among today's "bipolars" manic exuberance can spin out of > control. Euphoria may be accompanied by hyperactivity, sleeplessness, chaotically racing ideas, pressure of speech and grandiose thought. Hyper-sexuality, financial excesses and religious delusions are common. So is rampant egomania. Sometimes dysphoria may occur. In dysphoric mania the manic "high" is actually unpleasant. The excited subject may be angry, agitated, panicky, paranoid, and destructive. When in the grip of classic euphoric mania, however, it's hard to recognise that anyone might think anything is wrong. This is because everything feels utterly right. To suppose otherwise is like going to Heaven and then being invited to believe there has been a mistake. It's not credible." > > Really great article. Thanks much. I agree with some as you know since I have > touted the Shulgin art. And hypothesized that in the future we will travel to the stars and harvest all sorts of strange and new things, and then to boot, the Earth will become in fact the primordial initiative of higher reflective intelligence for the womb of the universe... > > On the other hand, the tweaking of the brain to acheive the ecstatic state, > creates a personal and moral conundrum, which I may buy, but which not all people will buy. So there always will be those who fall short of perfection, from the ambrosial side, and the personal side. And so what will happen? Will they be forced to dope up at school for the day, similar to the notion of doing TM in schools? I mean I love TM, just as I love drugs, for similar reasons, for much the reasons that this article links. Religion leads to an ecstacy that when it wears off can be reinstated similarly through drugs. Yes, the two steps of evolution. Rest, and partying. > > I would like to think that this combo could be used to permanently enlighten > everybody who so aspired. Der, stupid me, what am I saying, that's why such things have always existed. > > (It's bizarre that society has no real place for mind enhancing or expanding > drugs, and my guess is that samsara ends in nirvana, and nirvana is just not sellable. Der stupid me, look at Maharishi. Looks to be we can integrate nirvana into society through commerce, or so some think. I mean, I really like Amrit Kalash, Thank Dwivedi. Is his picture still on the bottle. But I swear, it takes about ten a day to get the same bliss as a joint. The price is about the same though at that rate. It's better for the lungs but people who take it tend not to live very ling as per King, Henning, Skip and the others who all died from strange pop up diseases. ((On my computer the name of this typeface which you all arent seeing is called shruti)) > > Which is why cops really exist, that is, to keep our brain chemicals tweaked > towards socialization by providing a cordition for the mind. When nirvana is acheived then mine and yours, and me and you all merge into one awareness, and that can seriously terrify the dualistic tendencies. So cops are there. The world is a straight moral conundrum which is a mirror and is the apocalypse continually. For the brain chemicals. Mirrored in society there will always exist ignorance since ignorance is the very potential for enlightenment and is the secret power of the sage. Self ignorance, not ignorance of others. In ignorance is the potential of enlightenment. In this world. > > Compassion is what is needed for proper training. Or else one will live in > unity as a demon, eating people's hearts like Dahmer. Or in religious fervor set off bombs because they too are natural law. > > I mean this artical should be read by every Muslim and Christian and Hindu > and every other warring religious sect. Your religion is killing you and killing others just because you can't maintain your brains. You=rhetorically speaking. > > I don't think moral choice can ever be taken away from humans in spite of > hedonic imperative. Because one needs to learn to maintain tain tain tain tain tain tain. Rudra- I'm not sure I follow everything you say except for rest and partying. Drugs have a place throughout history in the seekers life.It seems to me that finding a balance and real guidance along the way are the most difficult of all to find. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group,
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you clarify that ominous sounding reply please? > > Jim > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Per your remarks "easyone200", with all due respect it appears you > > > are standing on your head. > > You are new. Just wait. Not ominous about rory. I believe your opinion of him will change if he restarts his previous pattern of hundreds of nonsensical self aggrandizing post :) :) :) :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Hedonistic Imperative
Rudra Joe are you familiar with this philosophy. I think you will find it a good read http://www.hedweb.com/hedethic/hedonist.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Per your remarks "easyone200", with all due respect it appears you > are standing on your head. You are new. Just wait. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am I wrong on this. I think shortly after I joined the group in > > March '03, a noisy exodus was made by Mr. Goff and a few others > > because the tenor of the posts had changed from one that focussed > on > > experiences to that of "fluff" and just flat out too many > postings. > > Thank goodness we've gotten past that. > > *lol* That is not my recollection; I left once briefly when a member > wished I would die violently (together with another member or two > who said -- probably quite correctly -- that I made far too many > postings), then returned after a week or two, remained for some > months, and later took my leave (for this past year) when it started > to seem I was just repeating myself endlessly. I don't recall making > a particularly noisy exodus at that time, just a simple statement to > that effect. Rory, last time you finally left in a huff after numerous complaints about the impossibility of avoiding your comments about every single thread, some days responsiblefor 70 to 80 percent of all posts. I believed you were referred to as a cancer and an egomaniac back then as well. The chemotherapy of complaints that forced the cancerous growth I mean Goff into remission seems to have failed and the tumor has reappeared. When the groff returned this time it was only commenting on the obscure but the goff ego could not be contained and it has metastasized once again blathering about everything. Did the other group you went to get disgusted and drive the groff away. Perhaps we need to try radiation this time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > on 4/10/05 12:58 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> on 4/10/05 12:45 AM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> What is the possibility that you created this experience for > yourself due to > > > >>> your > > > >>> overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least > 99.99% of the > > > >>> time, let's just > > > >>> make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good > experiences. Ditto > > > >>> for the rest > > > >>> of these guru con artists. > > > >> > > > >> Have you ever been with him in person - close proximity? > > > > > > > > Yes. Many times. > > > > > > You didn't feel or don't remember feeling the darshan? You think > he's just a > > > mere con man dressed in white robes? > > I had few blissful experiences the most powerful one was during a > puja. Does this mean I > > don't think he is a crook? No. I think we are all capable of > generating these experiences > > within ourselves. They are extremely powerful. When we associate > them with a person, you > > get a cult of personality or a religion. Wether the object of your > worship is sinister or just a > > plain old crook determines how much of your life is taken > advantage of or destroyed. It is > > similar to a parent that sexually abuses a child. Despite knowing > what has been done to > > them the child still loves the parent and tries forever to > integrate how that all powerful > > loving parental figure could be so horrific and destructive to > them. They can't do it and > > this conflict destroys their lives almost all of the time. > > These gurus take our spiritual yearning and pervert it for their > own selfish sick desires. > > Wether it is money or sex or just getting off on the power. Look > at the bizarre lengths > > some of the people here go to justify the actions of Maharishi. I > thing Brigante wins the > > prize on this group for the most complete disconnect from the > reality of Maharishi's > > actions and who he thinks he is! OMG a web site devoted to how M > is ok and those around > > him are responsible for all the bad stuff of the TMO. I think he > even has footnotes. It is > > probably a daily struggle for him and causes him much heartache > (I'm sure he will > > disagree.) I am sure there is the occasional guru figure that has > good motives and tries to > > do something for people. I don't think this happens very often > because they would not try > > to be gurus and specially revered if they were not egomaniacs or > pathological in some > > way. > > easyone>>> > > > easyone: > 1. Did you ever practice Maharishi's yogic flying? > 2. Did you hop sometimes as a spontaneous, non-physical intent? > 3. What were your most memorable inner experiences during yogic > flying? > 4. Did you have interesting or nice (out of the ordinary - not every > day nice such as too much coffee or something), once a week on > average or more? > 5. Did you notice a difference in a large group, as opposed to being > on your own? This is all irrelevant to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/10/05 2:00 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > I had few blissful experiences the most powerful one was during a puja. Does > > this mean I > > don't think he is a crook? No. > > I don't have a problem with believing that he has been a crook in addition > to having made great contributions to my life and the world, by virtue of a > genuine abundance of consciousness and spiritual wisdom. Contradictory > qualities, I know, but unfortunately it seems the two can and often > (usually?) do coexist. > > >I think we are all capable of generating these > > experiences > > within ourselves. They are extremely powerful. > > True, but certain people and atmospheres can be more conducive to generating > them than others. > > > These gurus take our spiritual yearning and pervert it for their own > > selfish > > sick desires. > > True, and if they're doing this consciously it seems pretty bad to me. I > mean, a young virgin less than half your age comes to you seeking spiritual > guidance and you end up screwing her repeatedly. She's sort of into it at > the time (probably totally confused) and later hates your guts for it and > loses all interest in spirituality. Seems pretty sick to me. > > > I thing > > Brigante wins the > > prize on this group for the most complete disconnect from the reality of > > Maharishi's > > actions and who he thinks he is! OMG a web site devoted to how M is ok and > > those around > > him are responsible for all the bad stuff of the TMO. I think he even has > > footnotes. It is > > probably a daily struggle for him and causes him much heartache (I'm sure he > > will > > disagree.) > > I think he will, because he probably manages to insulate himself from > heartache as he manages to insulate himself from accepting obvious, > well-documented interpretations of things. Maybe the two are the same > process. > > >I am sure there is the occasional guru figure that has good > > motives and tries to > > do something for people. I don't think this happens very often because they > > would not try > > to be gurus and specially revered if they were not egomaniacs or > > pathological > > in some > > way. > > That's like saying all politicians are egomaniacs or pathological or they > wouldn't be politicians. Almost a truism but I think there are a few good > eggs in both fields. Less than a few IMO. Good luck in finding them. A wacked out nut job guru is a big price to pay for " certain people and atmospheres." I'll light my own incense, thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/10/05 12:58 PM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 4/10/05 12:45 AM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> What is the possibility that you created this experience for yourself due > >>> to > >>> your > >>> overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least 99.99% of the > >>> time, let's just > >>> make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good experiences. > >>> Ditto > >>> for the rest > >>> of these guru con artists. > >> > >> Have you ever been with him in person - close proximity? > > > > Yes. Many times. > > You didn't feel or don't remember feeling the darshan? You think he's just a > mere con man dressed in white robes? I had few blissful experiences the most powerful one was during a puja. Does this mean I don't think he is a crook? No. I think we are all capable of generating these experiences within ourselves. They are extremely powerful. When we associate them with a person, you get a cult of personality or a religion. Wether the object of your worship is sinister or just a plain old crook determines how much of your life is taken advantage of or destroyed. It is similar to a parent that sexually abuses a child. Despite knowing what has been done to them the child still loves the parent and tries forever to integrate how that all powerful loving parental figure could be so horrific and destructive to them. They can't do it and this conflict destroys their lives almost all of the time. These gurus take our spiritual yearning and pervert it for their own selfish sick desires. Wether it is money or sex or just getting off on the power. Look at the bizarre lengths some of the people here go to justify the actions of Maharishi. I thing Brigante wins the prize on this group for the most complete disconnect from the reality of Maharishi's actions and who he thinks he is! OMG a web site devoted to how M is ok and those around him are responsible for all the bad stuff of the TMO. I think he even has footnotes. It is probably a daily struggle for him and causes him much heartache (I'm sure he will disagree.) I am sure there is the occasional guru figure that has good motives and tries to do something for people. I don't think this happens very often because they would not try to be gurus and specially revered if they were not egomaniacs or pathological in some way. easyone To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > What is the possibility that you created this experience for > yourself due to your > > overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least 99.99% > of the time, let's just > > make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good > experiences. Ditto for the rest > > of these guru con artists. > > On the one hand, you are absolutely right; it is all Self > appreciating Self. On the other hand, it is not the work of the ego, > which was knocked flat on its petulant ass, stretched kicking and > screaming between absolute bliss and absolute suffering > simultaneously. In fact, the action of Self flooding into Self > EXPOSED the ego for the petulant ass it was. > > Thanks for asking this, as it brings up another point. The longer I > have lived and the better I have gotten to know myself, the more I > realize MMY is just a particularly stupendous mirror. Everything I > have ever judged in him, I have later come to see in myself. As I > have come to recognize and acknowledge those evils in myself, > they "disappear" and MMY (or the World or whatever) smiles that much > brighter. > > Case in point: One of MMY's big flaws IMO has always been his > disgusting tendency to fawn over the rich and famous. So what > happens? Last night I see Janis Ian and to anyone's outward eyes, I > am fawning over the rich and famous. But now I understand what's > going on from the inside: from my point of view, everyone (and > everything) is exactly the same, EXCEPT -- by virtue of how much > appreciation they are willing to take from "this" me. I am pouring > Love and Soma on and into Janis Ian simply because she will TAKE IT > ALL -- the more I pour on, the brighter and happier we get, and she > turns right around and pours it into her music and gives it right > back to thousands of people. See? She is EFFICIENT --- a) she will > transpersonally TAKE the energy (instead of saying "gag me," for > example) and b) she is naturally (at this moment anyhow) Group- > conscious, and in a position to USE that energy for countless others > of Us. A bargain! > > :-) Rory you are so fucking full of yourself as always. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/10/05 12:45 AM, easyone200 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What is the possibility that you created this experience for yourself due to > > your > > overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least 99.99% of the > > time, let's just > > make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good experiences. Ditto > > for the rest > > of these guru con artists. > > Have you ever been with him in person - close proximity? Yes. Many times. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
easyone wrote > > What is the possibility that you created this > > experience for yourself due to your > > overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man > > at least 99.99% of the time, let's just > > make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own > > good experiences. Ditto for the rest > > of these guru con artists. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Easy, do you consider any spiritual teacher, guru, > etc. to be legit(not going to argue with you, just > curious)? > -Peter At this point I think they are either crooks (most of the time) or well meaning people. The experiences are created by the individual. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Ian
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My wife, a longtime fan of "Society's Child" and "Golden Hair," > dragged me to a Janis Ian concert tonight in Kennebunk. What a BLAST! > We sat a few feet from her, in front row and offered soma to her > divine flame for the whole concert. When we met afterwards, she held > my hand and thanked me! Unbelievable. What a soul. What a goddess. She > surely can sing and play -- her instrument kept subtly shifting -- > guitar to lute to sitar and back to guitar *lol* -- Saraswati > incarnate. If you get a chance to see her, GO. It is unfortunate that a talent like her could never make it in today's pabulum music world. She would be too ugly and her music too real. Lucky for her she was around before mtv etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photo proof positive of Pundit project.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know how much of a challenge it is. I've > > expereinced him as Brahman and I've experienced him as > > the con man. I can't deny either. Altogether a pretty > > interesting dude who has had a significant impact on > > this life! > > -Peter > > Yeah, I have to say it surely wasn't hard to see him as a blazing Sun; > if he ever looked at you on the India course he'd flood you out into > golden infinity. The energy around him was like a blast furnace. And > then there's the equally-obvious human side, just to spice up the > Brahman paradox *lol* What is the possibility that you created this experience for yourself due to your overwhelming desire or expectation. M is a con man at least 99.99% of the time, let's just make that 100% and give yourself credit for your own good experiences. Ditto for the rest of these guru con artists. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: OK, here's the poop
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Emailed to me on the side: > > Got a long voicemail from someone on the course. > > > Anyhoo...Turns out the whole thrust of this > 'recertification' seems to be marketing. > Within the next 2-3 months there will be 500 > storefronts in malls. Each one will have all the > MAPI and movement products, a largescreen TV with the > M channel, a children's corner, a spa, a TM center. > There's more I can't remember. > He wanted to know the 5 high end malls in the area. > They will hire 4 people working in each store plus a > manager. A man and woman from the course will be > supervising. AND GET THIS. MAHARISHI WILL BE PAYING > FOR EVERYTHING. What a riot, that's a good one Rick. I think the tip-off is Maha paying, for ANYTHING. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Recertification Course
I am going if they will take the thousands of "ATR" credits stolen as payment! That was the beginning of the movement shakedown routine. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Ecstasy is not the answer > > > by Dr Ken Walton and Dr Jim Fleming > > > > > > Navy Times > > > 4 April 2005 > > > > > > The Navy Times, Army Times, and Air Force Times published a > letter in > > > their April 4 issue about the Transcendental Meditation (TM) > > > Programme as an effective approach for treating Post Traumatic > Stress > > > Syndrome (PTSD). The letter was written by two members of the > Center > > > for Advanced Military Science (CAMS), Drs Ken Walton and Jim > Fleming. > > > > > > The letter was in response to a previous article which proposed > using > > > the drug Ectasy to treat PTSD. Walton and Fleming said, 'We were > > > shocked. Why support investigation of a brain-damaging drug, when SNIP > > > Copyright © 2005 Global Good News(sm) Service. > > > > > The US govt has effectively shut down all research using ecstasy > and similar drugs that > > show great promise in treating many psychiatric disorders. All in > the name of the war on > > drugs. Early study using LSD during end stage cancer to relieve > pain showed it to be very > > effective. All drugs can be abused and have side effects. By your > logic narcotics should be > > taken off the market for pain management because of their abuse > potential. > > Also Bob, the study showing damage from ecstasy has been totally > invalidated because > > the researchers in that ecstasy study discovered they were > accidentally were using massive > > amounts the wrong drug on the test animals, in this case 100x's the > dose of meth- > > amphetamine. Do some research. > Bob Brigante writes > You faith in drugs is dopefying. Party on! easyone writes Bob, The God-Like pedestal you put Maharishi on, while at the same time making him an impotent prisoner in his own movement makes one think you are on drugs and some mighty powerful ones at that! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Phony Study on E
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread17892.shtml reprint of New York Times article. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM: bliss v. ecstacy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ecstasy is not the answer > by Dr Ken Walton and Dr Jim Fleming > > Navy Times > 4 April 2005 > > The Navy Times, Army Times, and Air Force Times published a letter in > their April 4 issue about the Transcendental Meditation (TM) > Programme as an effective approach for treating Post Traumatic Stress > Syndrome (PTSD). The letter was written by two members of the Center > for Advanced Military Science (CAMS), Drs Ken Walton and Jim Fleming. > > The letter was in response to a previous article which proposed using > the drug Ectasy to treat PTSD. Walton and Fleming said, 'We were > shocked. Why support investigation of a brain-damaging drug, when a > safe and effective approach is already available?' > > The writers went on to say, 'It's high time we acknowledge that > virtually all drugs have negative side effects and look more closely > at the human potential for healing ourselves. Research now shows that > stress-reduction approaches can be effective for treating > hypertension and heart disease as well as anxiety, depression, and > substance abuse. Among these approaches, meditation has emerged as > most effective for many outcomes. Within the different types of > meditation, the Transcendental Meditation Programme has been > researched most and has shown the largest effects in comparative > studies.' > > The writers noted a study that was done twenty years ago. 'Brooks and > Scarano tested this programme in Vietnam veterans, randomly assigning > those diagnosed with PTSD to either meditation or psychotherapy > (Journal of Counseling and Development, Volume 64, Pages 212-215, > 1985). The results were clear. Compared to psychotherapy, three > months practising this meditation for two short periods a day brought > significantly greater reductions in eight of nine measures, including > emotional numbness, anxiety, depression, alcohol consumption, > insomnia, family problems, unemployment and a scale for PTSD. If a > Department of Veterans Affairs clinician prescribes the TM programme > as part of a veteran's therapy, it is VA policy that the local VA > medical center can pay the course fee from its discretionary funds.' > > The letter appeared both in the paper edition and also on the > publications' websites. > > Copyright © 2005 Global Good News(sm) Service. The US govt has effectively shut down all research using ecstasy and similar drugs that show great promise in treating many psychiatric disorders. All in the name of the war on drugs. Early study using LSD during end stage cancer to relieve pain showed it to be very effective. All drugs can be abused and have side effects. By your logic narcotics should be taken off the market for pain management because of their abuse potential. Also Bob, the study showing damage from ecstasy has been totally invalidated because the researchers in that ecstasy study discovered they were accidentally were using massive amounts the wrong drug on the test animals, in this case 100x's the dose of meth- amphetamine. Do some research. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > with. > > > > cheer up > > ** > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > reality check. Bob The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of programs who's purpose is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of cult wackos. This is all that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack jobs now a round for the K-mart shoppers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pics of Vedic city pundit project
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "George DeForest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > > my favorit pic is toward the end of the group, > the simulated Asian toilet! ha, ha! Just taking care of your southern exit! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Pics of Vedic city pundit project
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > > > 3. Finally, we need to immediately raise an additional > > $500,000 > > > >in > > > > donations to build the kitchen. (There is no bank > > financing > > > > available at this time.) It is obviously essential that > > we be > > > >able > > > > to feed the Vedic Scholars when they arrive! > > > > > > > >A new time is dawning in the world, and we thank you again for > > > >Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > >John Hagelin I say withhold food and water from the pundits since the donors are as brain dead as Teri Schaivo. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] NEW YAHOO FORMAT
If you don't like grey text go to edit my membership (for yahoo) and turn off HTML then text will now appear black To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship & Theresa Schiavo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/27/05 11:31:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > I just heard on the news that they are giving Terri > Schiavo > > > morpohine. That is good, so be sure she doesn't suffer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That must be where that euphoric state comes from when a person > > starves to > > > death. > > + On the other hand, she probably wouldn't suffer if she wasn't > > starving. N. > > She stopped feeling anything 15 years ago when her cerebral cortex > died > from lack of oxygen. The Dr's caring for her might as well give morphine to each other since they are suffering much more than her. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TM is being taught with public funds at the charter schools in Mich > and MD (and it ain't cheap, $625/yr per student -- see > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#public ) -- but if > somebody with legal standing were to file a lawsuit protesting the > use of public funds for TM in these schools, it's very unlikely the > TMO would prevail in court. The reason why nobody is making a fuss so > far is that these are charter schools, where parents choose to send > their kids, so nobody's kids have to be there unless they want them > to. I Think I will file a suit or tell the local bible thumpers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > > > > > Why are you spreading lies Vaj? > > > > I'm not. What is present as TM (etc.) is Neo-Vedic Hinduism. I > would be > > lying if I told you any different. > > > > > Why did you so easily spread the lie that TM is illegal to be taught > in public schools? It has been taught in public schools for over a > decade. It is legal, and it always will be legal (of course the > fundie redneck christians will never let it be widespread.) > > > > > > > > TM is taught in public schools and has been for over 10 years. > It is > > > legal to teach TM in public schools and always will be. > > > > While I think it is a good idea to teach meditation, I'm not sure > > teaching TM will always be around in our school systems. Number > one, I > > don't have the siddhi of viewing time at the quantum level. Number > two, > > eventually people will realize that this is a violation of church > and > > state. >>. > > > No it is not. It does not require any belief, or giving up other > religions. Which almost ALL other religions require. This is US law > and has been verified at the supreme court level. There is no way > that this law will change unless Bush succeeds in his fundie crusade > to become the saviour of us all. Which he won't. Bush has already > crossed the line with his faith based initiatives, the courts will > never support an action against such a well scientifically > documented technique as TM which does not require belief, or giving > up your religion in any way. It can be taught but not with public funds. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/25/05 10:56 AM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> Akasha 108 writes: > > >> Rick initiated Peter, who proclaims jivanmukti has arrived. Does > Rick > > >> gain GREAT merit for that? But Rick also initiated Haiglin, hmmm, > > >> mixed bag of karma for that ? > > >> > > >> Tom T: > > >> He also gave me my intro and got me addicted. So, can we all > say. It's > > >> all his fault Tom makes outlandish claims. > > >> > > >> Tom > > > > > > Well, that explains it. Rick clearly messed up his into lecture > bad. > > > > > > And prolly gave Peter the wrong mantra, which has desroyed Peter's > > > brain so bad now that he is so delusional, he thinks he doesn't > exist. > > > > > > And Haiglin is off doing well need i say more. > > > > > > Rick appears to be at the root of so many problems today: FFL, > Tom, > > > Peter, Haiglin, Chopra. And he likes Alison Krauss music. Clearly > he > > > is deranged and a threat to society. > > > > > > > Rick left years ago and an alien walk-in took over. Bwahaahaa! > > > > There is some question at what point the alien walk-in took over, > since Rick was clever enough to use heroin in the two weeks before he > was initiated, rationalizing this as something easily metabolized, > and therefore not breaking the advice not to use illicit drugs for > two weeks before initiation into TM. Bob, I heard your alien walk in walked out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Know Who the New Leader Of the TMO Will Be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They should make me the leader. > From: easyone200 I will share it with you. First order of business is a "DRUG" store and YONI's pleasure palace where the dome used to be. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heaven on Earth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > More at:http://www.starchild.co.za/rebirth.html > > Gradually, the Earth will fill with beings of Light who are multi- > dimensional Human Angels, aware of who they are and why they are > here. They will live with open hearts and will share and love all > their fellow beings. They will honor the Planet and create a Paradise > of beauty. Heaven on Earth. It is not too far away. In fact it will > manifest within your lifetimes. Now is the difficult time, as so many > of you both Bridge the two realities, and indeed, become the Bridge > to the New Reality for many people. > > Those on Earth who have chosen not to enter the New Reality will most > probably live their lives out in a normal way. But they will not be > able to return to Earth, since Earth will in future only accept Multi- > Dimensional Crystal or Christed beings. Those who do not make the > transition will be released to continue their evolution on some other > world where they can continue with Third Dimensional learning. Earth > is no longer a school for Third Dimensionality - that role is over. > Earth has Ascended and is now the Golden Home for Human Angels. This > reality is assured. We invite you to work with us to assist in the > creation of the New Earth. OK, you found me out easylightone reporting in. All you non- crystalline beings off my rock and head out to the third dimension concentration camps, now move it. Oh Heather Graham you can stay, you lookin like an angel to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Know Who the New Leader Of the TMO Will Be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2005, at 9:40 PM, easyone200 wrote: > > > Whoever comes up with the most CASH. > > Doubtful. It most likely will not be a westerner. Who has been MMY's > right hand man in spiritual matters throughout the years? > > Answer that, and then you'll really know. Oh yeah his name is $ri $ri Cashananda To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Know Who the New Leader Of the TMO Will Be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Whoever comes up with the most CASH. > + Sounds logical but, I couldn't figure out who would be getting > the cash if he is number one. Probably the same one or ones that have signature rights on the bank accounts now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I Know Who the New Leader Of the TMO Will Be
Whoever comes up with the most CASH. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Speaking of Trash
What do I do with all my old mantras now that I am just a measly seeker. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci- > > > > schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines > > > > > > > > > > > > Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless > > > > > > > > > > > > Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But > > > experts say dying of > > > > starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill. > > > > By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel > > > > Times Staff Writers > > > + What if they are not ill? > > > Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if > > > there is the possibility of having to miss a meal. > > > These reporters should try going without food and water for a > > > few weeks and then report back. N. > > > > The question of illness is not the one addressed here it is the > experience of dying from the > > removal of all food and water and what her experience would be if > she could experience > > anything (which she can't). As far as your vata mumbo jumbo goes, > the hunger experience > > vanishes after no food and water for a few days, that goes for > everyone. These were Dr's > > speaking who deal with the dying every day not reporters opinions. > Try reading the story. > + Is this to mean that starving to death is the same for everyone > regardless of their condition? >"The hunger experience vanishes after no food and water for a > few days" has that been your experience? N. I have not gone without food and water for a few days. I have gone without food for 3 days and I must say that hunger diminishes. The lack of water is an important factor so the Dr's report. These are Dr's. that deal with this daily not just since the schaivo case has been in the news. This is the science, you are welcome to your own opinion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci- > > schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines > > > > > > Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless > > > > > > Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But > experts say dying of > > starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill. > > By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel > > Times Staff Writers > + What if they are not ill? > Around here, you can see the vata types nearly go into shock if > there is the possibility of having to miss a meal. > These reporters should try going without food and water for a > few weeks and then report back. N. The question of illness is not the one addressed here it is the experience of dying from the removal of all food and water and what her experience would be if she could experience anything (which she can't). As far as your vata mumbo jumbo goes, the hunger experience vanishes after no food and water for a few days, that goes for everyone. These were Dr's speaking who deal with the dying every day not reporters opinions. Try reading the story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tom Delay and Teri Shaivo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/23/05 8:54:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Why all the fear of death. Theoretically we will be able to keep all > people alive forever in vegetative states in the near future. > > How many Teri Schiavos are there in the US? The number is growing > due to more and more advanced medical practices. > > > > Is it a fear of death or making the most of the life you have?As I said when > death comes, it comes, don't need to ask death to pay you a visit. How many > people that have been in Terri's position have been rehabilitated and enjoy > their lives now and are thankful people didn't kill them?I have nothing > against somebody making a living will stating how they personally would want > to be > treated in Terri's situation. I do have a major problem with courts > ordering death on innocent people based on hear say especially when it's the > husband > and the parents want to protect the life of their child. Michael can always > divorce Terri and he will never be her husband again. The parents will > always > be her parents. NOBODY that has been in her position has been rehabbed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci- schaivodeath23mar23,0,3402521.story?coll=la-home-headlines Ceasing Food and Fluid Can Be Painless Concerns for Schiavo's comfort have galvanized the debate. But experts say dying of starvation and dehydration is a peaceful end for the ill. By Karen Kaplan and Rosie Mestel Times Staff Writers March 23, 2005 After suffering through cancer, the middle-age woman decided her illness was too much to bear. Everything she ate, she painfully vomited back up. The prospect of surgery and a colostomy bag held no appeal. And so, against the advice of her doctors, the patient decided to stop eating and drinking. Over the next 40 days in 1993, Dr. Robert Sullivan of Duke University Medical Center observed her gradual decline, providing one of the most detailed clinical accounts of starvation and dehydration. Instead of feeling pain, the patient experienced the characteristic sense of euphoria that accompanies a complete lack of food and water. She was cogent for weeks, chatting with her caregivers in the nursing home and writing letters to family and friends. As her organs finally failed, she slipped painlessly into a coma and died. In the evolving saga of Terri Schiavo, the prospect of the 41-year-old Florida woman suffering a slow and painful death from starvation has been a galvanizing force. But medical experts say going without food and water in the last days and weeks of life is as natural as death itself. The body is equipped with its own resources to adjust to death, they say. In fact, eating and drinking during severe illness can be painful because of the demands it places on weakened organs. "What my patients have told me over the last 25 years is that when they stop eating and drinking, there's nothing unpleasant about it -- in fact it can be quite blissful and euphoric," said Dr. Perry G. Fine, vice president of medical affairs at the National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization in Arlington, Va. "It's a very smooth, graceful and elegant way to go." Schiavo, who hasn't had any food or water since Friday, has been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years that makes it impossible for her brain to recognize pain, doctors say. "Her reflexes with respect to thirst or hunger are as broken as her ability to think thoughts or dream dreams or do anything a normal, healthy brain does," Fine said. But even if her brain were functioning normally and she were aware of her condition, she would be comfortable, doctors say. "The word `starve' is so emotionally loaded," Fine said. "People equate that with the hunger pains they feel or the thirst they feel after a long, hot day of hiking. To jump from that to a person who has an end-stage illness is a gigantic leap." Contrary to the visceral fears of humans, death by starvation is the norm in nature -- and the body is prepared for it. "The cessation of eating and drinking is the dominant way that mammals die," said Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire. "It is a very gentle way that nature has provided for animals to leave this life." In a 2003 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, 102 hospice nurses caring for terminally ill patients who refused food and drink described their patients' final days as peaceful, with less pain and suffering than those who had elected to die through physician-assisted suicide. The average rating given by the nurses for the patients' quality of death was an 8 on a scale where 9 represented a "very good death" and 0 was a "very bad death." Patients deprived of food and water will die of dehydration rather than starvation, unless they succumb to their underlying illness first. Without fluids, the body loses its ability to maintain the proper balance of potassium, sodium, calcium and other electrolytes in the bloodstream and inside cells. The kidneys react to the fluid shortage by conserving as many bodily liquids as possible. The brain, which relies on chemical signals to function properly, begins to deteriorate. So do the heart and other muscles, causing patients to feel tired and lethargic. "Everything in the body is geared toward trying to maintain that normal balance," Fine said. "The body will do everything it can to maintain this balance if it's working well." Meanwhile, the body begins mining its stores of fat and muscle to get the carbohydrates and proteins it needs to make energy. "If you mine too many proteins in the heart, it gets unstable," Sullivan said. That can give rise to an irregular heartbeat, which can cause the patient to die of cardiac arrest. Or, if the muscles in the chest wall become weak, the patient can end up with pneumonia, he said. Patients already weakened by disease begin feeling the impact after a few days, Fine said. They eventually descend into a coma and finally
