Re: [FairfieldLife] "David wants to Fly",

[Emily Reyn]

Thanks.  Glad I was able to view this.  



 From: deepaconn2 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:16 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] "David wants to Fly",
 

  
Here's a link to the very intriguing movie, "David wants to Fly", about one 
man's experience with TM and the TM organiztion.
 
http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly
 
You may have to type  the name of the movie  in to the search box to get the 
video to appear.
The site says streaming will only be available for a short time.

 

[FairfieldLife] "David wants to Fly",

[deepaconn2]

Here's a link to the very intriguing movie, "David wants to Fly", about
one man's experience with TM and the TM organiztion.

http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly


You may have to type  the name of the movie  in to the search box to get
the video to appear.

The site says streaming will only be available for a short time.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly to air on American TV

[Vaj]

On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

Also, on http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly, it says  
<-- Watch the full documentary online for a limited time, starting  
11/6/11!




Do you know if there will be a charge for that, or is it free?


I've seen this before and it was free for other movies.

RE: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly to air on American TV

[Rick Archer]

Also, on http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly, it says <-- Watch 
the full documentary online for a limited time, starting 11/6/11!

 

Do you know if there will be a charge for that, or is it free?

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Sal Sunshine]

On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:34 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> the SCI integration award

You've gotta be joking.  They actually
have (had?) this??
Curtis, this beats all.  There is no way
in hell I can ever approach your level of 
experience in Movement insanity.  I bow.

Sal 

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

On Sep 27, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


The movie pretty much makes MMY out to be a charlatan or con artist.
That is really going to upset a few here. Some will like the idea that
he "invented TM in his garage" the Horatio Alger story. But in most
traditions they like sticking to the rules because down through the
centuries they've seen too many people going crazy when they strayed.
It's very much like the martial arts, you can only teach if you  
achieve

a certain level.



An interesting detail from Swarupananda is that Mahesh never entered  
into the guru-shishya relationship with Brahmananda. He was simply an  
administrative aide. That's key in the whole "purity of the  
tradition" schtick Mahesh liked to pretend about. How pure can the  
line be if permission (upadesha) never existed in the first place?  
And he again disputes the reality of Mahesh-as-yogi in that to his  
knowledge he was never so trained - it's simply another alias he  
assumed.


I don't know if you saw it, but Paul's website contains a more  
complete interview with His Holiness Swami Swarupananda, Jagadguru of  
Jyotir Math:


The lineage of Jyotish Peeth (also known as Jyotir Math and  
Jyotirmath) has been contested by Swami Swaroopanand Saraswati,  
(Shankaracharya of Dwarka since 1982). An outspoken critic of  
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Swami Swaroopanand recently stated:-


"I was the desciple of Gurudev and had [been] taken into his fold  
through a ceremony called Dand Sanyaas which Mahesh Yogi could not  
get done as he was not a Brahman. Also Mahesh was his secretary and  
he was not Gurudev's disciple in any way but was a part of the  
administrative staff."


"So far as I know he did not know anything about yoga so I have no  
idea how he became Yogi. But he was very smart and shrewd. He was  
responsible for the controversy over Shankaracharya's here in  
Jyotirmath. He wanted to put up here a Shankaracharya who would  
listen to him. That was his motive behind dividing the Jyotirmath."


"After Gurudev's demise he spread the news that there is a will made  
by Gurudev on his name and that claims him to be Gurudev‘s disciple..."
"The will named four people- the first name was Shantanand, second  
DwarkaPrasad Shastri, third name was Vishnudevanand and fourth name  
was Parmanand.
Now when the will was opened for reading it turned out that  
Shantanand did not understand Sanskrit (!!!), he used to work for  
Geeta press on the salary of 14 rupees per month and thus was not  
capable enough, secondly, Dwarkaprasad Shastri, was a married man  
with family, thirdly, Vishnudevanand, was not educated enough and  
fourth, Parmanand, who was M.A., his big toe on the right leg was  
amputed and a disabled [person] is not given Sanyaas, thus he was  
nullified. Thus the four were rejected and Swami Krishnabodhashramji  
was made Shankaracharya but Mahesh Yogi instigated Shantanand to  
fight the court case. He was given a car and money and all other  
assistance and help."


"Now Sita Saraf was in Kolkatta when Gurudev passed away and she  
along with Mahesh played out a drama claiming that they asked Gurudev  
to accept their lives but Gurudev refused and passed away. It was  
also spread far and wide that when Gurudev’s soul was leaving his  
body, Mahesh Yogi’s soul was also exiting but Gurudev pushed his soul  
back because Mahesh had to complete Gurudev’s incomplete work for  
which he had to go abroad!!!"


"Also, as per the will that was revealed, it stated clearly that the  
order of succession was to be Shantanand, Dwarkaprasad Shastri,  
Vishnudevanand and Parmanand. However all of them passed away in  
exactly the reverse order! If Gurudev, who has the far sight to  
forsee such events, had written the will, how could they all pass  
away in exactly the reverse order??"


"Therefore, if this is so, that he was a 'siddha  mahatma', why was  
this in reverse order?"


- Swami Swaroopanand, speaking to film-maker David Sieveking, 22nd  
May 2009

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Bhairitu]

On 09/26/2011 04:45 PM, Vaj wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>>> Back to the movie. It seems honest to me. He goes through stages of 
>>> mounting concern. He genuinely liked TM. Seeing the initiation day scene 
>>> really brought me back. What magical fun that all was. I wonder if Guru Dev 
>>> would step out of the picture and slay me if I initiated someone again? He 
>>> might use that backwards Nazi symbol as a Chinese throwing star and lop off 
>>> my head. (Sorry easily distracted today for some reason.) Or maybe he might 
>>> try to use that staff on me. I think I could take him if he pulled that. 
>>> Unless he was David feak'n Carridine with that thing, he couldn't swing it 
>>> fast enough to neutralize my mad Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. (Perhaps I shouldn't 
>>> try the puja again until my spontaneous fantasy is not grappling with Guru 
>>> Dev? In my defense it was the Ultimate Fighting Championship mixed martial 
>>> arts weekend, so I watched a lot of man on man action.) I guess he would 
>>> zap me with a laser out of his third eye anyway so the world is still safe 
>>> from me gett'n my Karpora gorum on anytime soon. But my point is that movie 
>>> made me think of it, the scenes are sweet and nostalgic for me. (Like that 
>>> is gunna de-blaspehemize the preceding paragraph!)
>> One would wonder what Brahmananda Saraswati would really have thought of
>> the TM movement? Maybe not what you think.
> I think it's clear from both SBS's teachings and his feelings on how the 
> teaching should be propagated that he would have considered Mahesh a rogue 
> and his teaching an aberration. From what I've heard other "non-bought" 
> Shanks say, Swarupananda's words ring very "right on". Remember where he says 
> [SPOILER] at the climax of the movie:
>
> "What you have learned from Mahesh Yogi will not bring you spiritual 
> progress."
>
> These could have been the very words of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati IMO. I 
> doubt very much SBS would have said anything different from his successor.

The movie pretty much makes MMY out to be a charlatan or con artist.  
That is really going to upset a few here.  Some will like the idea that 
he "invented TM in his garage" the Horatio Alger story.  But in most 
traditions they like sticking to the rules because down through the 
centuries they've seen too many people going crazy when they strayed.  
It's very much like the martial arts, you can only teach if you achieve 
a certain level.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

> > Back to the movie. It seems honest to me. He goes through stages of 
> > mounting concern. He genuinely liked TM. Seeing the initiation day scene 
> > really brought me back. What magical fun that all was. I wonder if Guru Dev 
> > would step out of the picture and slay me if I initiated someone again? He 
> > might use that backwards Nazi symbol as a Chinese throwing star and lop off 
> > my head. (Sorry easily distracted today for some reason.) Or maybe he might 
> > try to use that staff on me. I think I could take him if he pulled that. 
> > Unless he was David feak'n Carridine with that thing, he couldn't swing it 
> > fast enough to neutralize my mad Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. (Perhaps I shouldn't 
> > try the puja again until my spontaneous fantasy is not grappling with Guru 
> > Dev? In my defense it was the Ultimate Fighting Championship mixed martial 
> > arts weekend, so I watched a lot of man on man action.) I guess he would 
> > zap me with a laser out of his third eye anyway so the world is still safe 
> > from me gett'n my Karpora gorum on anytime soon. But my point is that movie 
> > made me think of it, the scenes are sweet and nostalgic for me. (Like that 
> > is gunna de-blaspehemize the preceding paragraph!)
> 
> One would wonder what Brahmananda Saraswati would really have thought of 
> the TM movement? Maybe not what you think.

I think it's clear from both SBS's teachings and his feelings on how the 
teaching should be propagated that he would have considered Mahesh a rogue and 
his teaching an aberration. From what I've heard other "non-bought" Shanks say, 
Swarupananda's words ring very "right on". Remember where he says [SPOILER] at 
the climax of the movie: 

"What you have learned from Mahesh Yogi will not bring you spiritual progress."

These could have been the very words of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati IMO. I 
doubt very much SBS would have said anything different from his successor.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Bhairitu]

On 09/26/2011 11:30 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
> Due to Vaj's benevolence I saw the movie and have a few thoughts. (surprise, 
> surprise!)

And you can probably see why maybe Netflix won't touch it (if they 
indeed submitted it there) as NF would probably fear a lawsuit.  OTOH, 
Vudu.com might work because the TMO would be scared to death of going 
after Walmart.  LoveFilm.com, the European equivalent of Netflix 
advertises it will be available there.

A Bluray edition would be nice.  Sieveking is a good film maker and 
should have a great career.


> 
>
> Back to the movie.  It seems honest to me.  He goes through stages of 
> mounting concern.  He genuinely liked TM.  Seeing the initiation day scene 
> really brought me back.  What magical fun that all was.  I wonder if Guru Dev 
> would step out of the picture and slay me if I initiated someone again? He 
> might use that backwards Nazi symbol as a Chinese throwing star and lop off 
> my head.  (Sorry easily distracted today for some reason.) Or maybe he might 
> try to use that staff on me.  I think I could take him if he pulled that.  
> Unless he was David feak'n Carridine with that thing, he couldn't swing it 
> fast enough to neutralize my mad Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. (Perhaps I shouldn't 
> try the puja again until my spontaneous fantasy is not grappling with Guru 
> Dev? In my defense it was the Ultimate Fighting Championship mixed martial 
> arts weekend, so I watched a lot of man on man action.) I guess he would zap 
> me with a laser out of his third eye anyway so  the world is still safe from 
> me gett'n my Karpora gorum on anytime soon.  But my point is that movie made 
> me think of it, the scenes are sweet and nostalgic for me. (Like that is 
> gunna de-blaspehemize the preceding paragraph!)

One would wonder what Brahmananda Saraswati would really have thought of 
the TM movement? Maybe not what you think.

> His meeting with Lynch is doomed from the start.  David comes off as the 
> opposite of what I thought he would be like from his cool movies.  He seems 
> like he has lost all sense of irony and moves his fingers non stop in the 
> itsy bitsy spider motion that really doesn't work for anyone over 4. I am no 
> stranger to how that routine kills for the munchkin set but it doesn't fly 
> for adults.  He seems as if he is part stepping into Maharishi TM teacher 
> mentally-disadvantaged simplicity, combined by having his ass kissed in richy 
> rich world for a very long time.  It has been a long time since he was not a 
> VIP and his movement adulation has had an unpleasant effect.  Or maybe he was 
> always just a dweeb.  He comes off as very uncool, very unaware of how fey he 
> comes across.  If I had the power I would strip him of his brilliant movie 
> Blue Velvet and give the credit to someone who seems as if they could have 
> created such a sly masterpiece.

Lynch is just a typical artist and quirky.  I cut him a lot of slack but 
sorry that he seems to lack the intellectual curiosity to look at other 
forms of meditation and organizations.  Has he ever wondered if there 
might be something more powerful than TM?  There is, of course.
>
>
> The scenes of Maharishi's funeral are a must see for anyone.  They are just 
> stunning and the best record of the event I have seen.  The Purusha guys 
> giddily jumping in the Ganges with his ashes is riveting.  That could have 
> been me, I would totally have done that when I was all in.

I was at the Ganges and didn't jump in. Too damn polluted.

> If someone wanted to cut from this section to where he goes to the source of 
> the ganges section they would love the movie, even if they were a hard-liner.
>
> He meets with the slightly Jabba the Hut-like Sarooopananda (SP?) who gives 
> the elitist bastard perspective on Maharishi's lack of legitimacy.  When he 
> curls his lip describing Maharishi as a bookkeeper in the ashram I kind of 
> want to slug him.  Not out of allegiance to Maharishi, but because I am an 
> American dammit and Maharishi's tale in the Hollywood treatment (Not by 
> David) would be all about the scrappy little (Mickey Rooney would be a 
> convincing casting)Baramachari who decided that tradition was not going to 
> hold down his dreams of Golden Domes in his hands as well as those buildings 
> they fly(NOT) in.  (We will get to his paws on Golden Domes later with 
> Judith.)  So not being a spiritual guy I was struck at how unusual Maharishi 
> was to buck the whole freak'n system.  It either speaks to his immense 
> grandiosity or his being a real self assured dude like Clint Eastwood in any 
> of his movies.  But one thing for sure, he knew he was flipping the bird to 
> Guru Dev's whole traditional system.  I am gunna connect this to Nandkashore 
> later when he makes a scene with the rajas.  Maharishi somehow walked out of 
> Joitir Math with a self-confidence that he could do whatever the hell he 
> wanted, with no traditional restrictions. It is kind of amazin

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 26, 2011, at 1:30 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:

> Everyone who has ever had a yoga fantasy of going to the source of the Ganges 
> needs to see that part. Complete with my favorite scene with the sadhus he 
> meets on the way who know how to party. ( I wont spoil it, the scene is worth 
> the whole flick.)  The scenes of that part of the world are amazing and it is 
> impressive that he made the trek.

Agreed.

> I've gone on way too long, if you made it this far, thanks for your 
> indulgence.  I was just spilling out my thoughts so now I'll try to tighten 
> up a bit for the landing.

Don't worry about that, Curtis~~most people here
(including moi) will just read the 
beginning and ending anyway.  And then
will tell you how great it was!  How perceptive,
right-on, etc. Just kidding!  :)  Your review
actually makes me want to see it again.
I thought the Nandkishore/Bevan scene was
fascinating also, and even more fascinating
when El Rotundo insisted the cameras be turned
off. (There!  That's my tasteless Bevan joke.)

> You gotta see it if you are, or were into TM. David Sieveking delivered the 
> goods on a fascinating moment in movement history.  He also plays decent 
> harmonica a bunch in the film.  What's not to like? 

Not surprisingly, I loved the whole thing as well.
(Cue up in the background either Sexy Sadie or
You Can't Always Get What You Want.)
Sal 

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[curtisdeltablues]

Due to Vaj's benevolence I saw the movie and have a few thoughts. (surprise, 
surprise!)

There are as many ways to view the film as there are perspectives on Maharishi 
in and out of the movement, but even people who are all in should see it for 
the filming of Maharishi's funeral alone. Also not to be missed is the scene 
which caused the biggest fuss, but also showed how the inner movement 
experienced the changing of the guard on Maharishi's death. (I'll get back to 
that.)  Maybe insiders have all sorts of tapes of how the other half lives in 
the movement, but I found the footage fascinating.  He even has shots of the 
beautiful place I had my TTC phase III in Seelisberg, looking as oddly 
abandoned as it was when I as there.  Past its World Government prime like one 
of those old ladies who stands on the ice rink at Rockefeller Center in a pink 
skating dress with her hands held in the air as if she has just completed the 
long program (nailed it) and now is ready for her 10's across the board. 
(Russia gave her an 8 but that was totally political.)  The place is decked out 
in Liberace approved style.  But its mountaintop placement is really striking.  
That was the most visually impressive place I ever lived. (Four months of eye 
candy.)

Back to the movie.  It seems honest to me.  He goes through stages of mounting 
concern.  He genuinely liked TM.  Seeing the initiation day scene really 
brought me back.  What magical fun that all was.  I wonder if Guru Dev would 
step out of the picture and slay me if I initiated someone again? He might use 
that backwards Nazi symbol as a Chinese throwing star and lop off my head.  
(Sorry easily distracted today for some reason.) Or maybe he might try to use 
that staff on me.  I think I could take him if he pulled that.  Unless he was 
David feak'n Carridine with that thing, he couldn't swing it fast enough to 
neutralize my mad Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. (Perhaps I shouldn't try the puja again 
until my spontaneous fantasy is not grappling with Guru Dev? In my defense it 
was the Ultimate Fighting Championship mixed martial arts weekend, so I watched 
a lot of man on man action.) I guess he would zap me with a laser out of his 
third eye anyway so  the world is still safe from me gett'n my Karpora gorum on 
anytime soon.  But my point is that movie made me think of it, the scenes are 
sweet and nostalgic for me. (Like that is gunna de-blaspehemize the preceding 
paragraph!)

His meeting with Lynch is doomed from the start.  David comes off as the 
opposite of what I thought he would be like from his cool movies.  He seems 
like he has lost all sense of irony and moves his fingers non stop in the itsy 
bitsy spider motion that really doesn't work for anyone over 4. I am no 
stranger to how that routine kills for the munchkin set but it doesn't fly for 
adults.  He seems as if he is part stepping into Maharishi TM teacher 
mentally-disadvantaged simplicity, combined by having his ass kissed in richy 
rich world for a very long time.  It has been a long time since he was not a 
VIP and his movement adulation has had an unpleasant effect.  Or maybe he was 
always just a dweeb.  He comes off as very uncool, very unaware of how fey he 
comes across.  If I had the power I would strip him of his brilliant movie Blue 
Velvet and give the credit to someone who seems as if they could have created 
such a sly masterpiece.  

The scenes of Maharishi's funeral are a must see for anyone.  They are just 
stunning and the best record of the event I have seen.  The Purusha guys 
giddily jumping in the Ganges with his ashes is riveting.  That could have been 
me, I would totally have done that when I was all in.  

If someone wanted to cut from this section to where he goes to the source of 
the ganges section they would love the movie, even if they were a hard-liner.

He meets with the slightly Jabba the Hut-like Sarooopananda (SP?) who gives the 
elitist bastard perspective on Maharishi's lack of legitimacy.  When he curls 
his lip describing Maharishi as a bookkeeper in the ashram I kind of want to 
slug him.  Not out of allegiance to Maharishi, but because I am an American 
dammit and Maharishi's tale in the Hollywood treatment (Not by David) would be 
all about the scrappy little (Mickey Rooney would be a convincing 
casting)Baramachari who decided that tradition was not going to hold down his 
dreams of Golden Domes in his hands as well as those buildings they fly(NOT) 
in.  (We will get to his paws on Golden Domes later with Judith.)  So not being 
a spiritual guy I was struck at how unusual Maharishi was to buck the whole 
freak'n system.  It either speaks to his immense grandiosity or his being a 
real self assured dude like Clint Eastwood in any of his movies.  But one thing 
for sure, he knew he was flipping the bird to Guru Dev's whole traditional 
system.  I am gunna connect this to Nandkashore later when he makes a scene 
with the rajas.  Maharishi somehow walked out 

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Bhairitu]

On 09/19/2011 10:31 AM, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>> On 09/18/2011 04:31 PM, Vaj wrote:
>>> http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2729828/15672248/
>>>
>>> Movies : Documentary : DVD Rip : English
>>> Documentary about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TM movement, 
>>> focusing on Fairfield, IA and the religious nature of the group. 
>>> Film has not been released to the public but did well at film 
>>> festivals.
>>>
>>> http://www.davidwantstofly.com/
>>>
>>
>> I wonder why it is having problems finding a US distributor?  Lynch said
>> he wouldn't interfere.  I'm guessing Lichblick Film doesn't know what to
>> do with it or it's potential sales.  Even doing a limited run NTSC DVD
>> (about 2000 copies) and placed on Amazon in the US might work.
>> Otherwise either license it to Netflix streaming or Vudu if they think
>> they might make more money with the latter.
>>
>> Thing is the movie "Tucker and Dale vs Evil" which was shown at Sundance
>> back January 2010, played Europe and Asia and now available on DVD and
>> Bluray was in US distribution limbo until Magnet (owned by Mark Cuban)
>> picked it up.  It went "pre-theatrical" VOD on August 30th (Comcast,
>> Vudu, etc) and limited run in theaters on the 30th of September.  It
>> will only be playing at the Shattuck in Berkeley around here.  When it
>> goes "in theaters" the price will drop for VOD so will watching then on
>> Vudu.
>
>
> The only thing I can guess is that the subject matter is so 
> specialized and TM so passe. The guru expose theme may have worn thin 
> as well. There's no market to warrant a release. Can you imagine a 
> film on Est or ISKCON?

I did rent a documentary about ISKCON years ago that was made in 
Australia.  I rented it VOD and watched it on the computer.  Later I 
found it available at stores.  Now that was back in the day when people 
bought DVDs (FYI, DVD sales are way down).

I've bought one-offs DVDs at the big Holistic Expo in SF.  I even bought 
"Gabriel Over the White House" as a one-off from Warner Brothers.

I've thought the VOD route would be the way to go.  What's going to 
happen?  The TMO boycotting Walmart because Vudu licensed it?  There is 
very little risk on a VOD.  You can hit that small target audience.  
They could license it to Netflix streaming for a few months.

But as I mentioned as well as you and Turq that the perceived market is 
probably too small.  "Perceived" is the active word there, who knows 
what it will do.

Would you watch a documentary on the building of Steinway pianos?  It 
sound dull too but I put it in my queue and it was very good.  I didn't 
know they were entirely built by hand by really skilled craftsmen that 
have come from all over the world.  Many pianos are built in automated 
factories these days and even Steinway feels they may need to do that 
but they want to figure out how automate the same level of 
craftsmanship.  Unfortunately many of those expensive pianos that take a 
year to build go as trophy items into homes of the wealthy who can 
barely play "Chopsticks."

You'd also think that the original Danish "The Killing" would be 
available on NF streaming?  There are far more obscure films than that 
there.  I just think a lot of people in the content acquisition business 
aren't very good at it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


On 09/18/2011 04:31 PM, Vaj wrote:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2729828/15672248/

Movies : Documentary : DVD Rip : English
Documentary about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TM movement,  
focusing on Fairfield, IA and the religious nature of the group.  
Film has not been released to the public but did well at film  
festivals.


http://www.davidwantstofly.com/



I wonder why it is having problems finding a US distributor?  Lynch  
said
he wouldn't interfere.  I'm guessing Lichblick Film doesn't know  
what to

do with it or it's potential sales.  Even doing a limited run NTSC DVD
(about 2000 copies) and placed on Amazon in the US might work.
Otherwise either license it to Netflix streaming or Vudu if they think
they might make more money with the latter.

Thing is the movie "Tucker and Dale vs Evil" which was shown at  
Sundance

back January 2010, played Europe and Asia and now available on DVD and
Bluray was in US distribution limbo until Magnet (owned by Mark Cuban)
picked it up.  It went "pre-theatrical" VOD on August 30th (Comcast,
Vudu, etc) and limited run in theaters on the 30th of September.  It
will only be playing at the Shattuck in Berkeley around here.  When it
goes "in theaters" the price will drop for VOD so will watching  
then on

Vudu.



The only thing I can guess is that the subject matter is so  
specialized and TM so passe. The guru expose theme may have worn thin  
as well. There's no market to warrant a release. Can you imagine a  
film on Est or ISKCON?


But it could be all tied up in litigation for all I know. I did  
wonder if the McCartney and Starr would be doing anymore TM support  
after their cameo in the film. One wonders if they were aware of any  
of the dirt that's gone down at all.


Dalai Lama flicks are much more in vogue. Have you seen 10 Questions  
for the Dalai Lama? I was surprised, I expected to be bored to tears.  
It was actually quite good. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Bhairitu]

On 09/18/2011 04:31 PM, Vaj wrote:
> http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2729828/15672248/
>
> Movies : Documentary : DVD Rip : English
> Documentary about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TM movement, focusing on 
> Fairfield, IA and the religious nature of the group. Film has not been 
> released to the public but did well at film festivals.
>
> http://www.davidwantstofly.com/
>

I wonder why it is having problems finding a US distributor?  Lynch said 
he wouldn't interfere.  I'm guessing Lichblick Film doesn't know what to 
do with it or it's potential sales.  Even doing a limited run NTSC DVD 
(about 2000 copies) and placed on Amazon in the US might work.  
Otherwise either license it to Netflix streaming or Vudu if they think 
they might make more money with the latter.

Thing is the movie "Tucker and Dale vs Evil" which was shown at Sundance 
back January 2010, played Europe and Asia and now available on DVD and 
Bluray was in US distribution limbo until Magnet (owned by Mark Cuban) 
picked it up.  It went "pre-theatrical" VOD on August 30th (Comcast, 
Vudu, etc) and limited run in theaters on the 30th of September.  It 
will only be playing at the Shattuck in Berkeley around here.  When it 
goes "in theaters" the price will drop for VOD so will watching then on 
Vudu.





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[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2729828/15672248/

Movies : Documentary : DVD Rip : English
Documentary about Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the TM movement, focusing on 
Fairfield, IA and the religious nature of the group. Film has not been released 
to the public but did well at film festivals.

http://www.davidwantstofly.com/

SYNOPSIS
To meet master film director David Lynch in person and talk to him about 
filmmaking! A dream come true for young David Sieveking, who first finds 
himself sitting face-to-face with his idol in spring 2006. 

The meeting takes place on the periphery of a workshop in the USA where Lynch 
is giving a talk on the sources of creativity. Paramount among them is 
transcendental meditation (TM), a technique the cult filmmaker has reputedly 
practiced daily for over thirty years. But he had never before spoken about it 
in public. Could TM be the mystery behind Lynch’s dark, inscrutable films?

Although the location of the workshop – the Maharishi University of 
Enlightenment in Iowa – does strike David, the young filmmaker from Berlin, as 
somewhat strange, it is also mysterious and fascinating. Maharishi? Wasn’t that 
the legendary 1960s guru – guiding light of the hippie movement, savior of the 
western world and personal spiritual tutor of the Beatles? An entirely new 
chapter in the life of David Sieveking has begun. Fairfield, Iowa is a new 
world where everything seems possible – even flying, without the aid of any 
machinery! 

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of Transcendental Meditation, promised 
creativity, health, professional success, world peace and no less than “heaven 
on earth”. David Sieveking decides to take the personal advice of the great 
David Lynch and begins to practice TM himself. Even master film directors start 
as novices, after all. And the best thing about it: TM is easy to do. Not 
cheap, but easy!

Funded by donations Maharishi and his followers built up an unparalleled global 
enterprise with the global headquarters in the Netherlands; a world peace 
center in India; a clandestine “TM world government” in the Swiss Alps; over 20 
“Invincible Universities” have been founded and there are obscure gated camps 
dedicated to “yogic flying”. For the second time, David Sieveking discovers a 
whole new world. 

The more research the young filmmaker does, the more discrepancies surface. 
Suddenly TM apostates start contacting him, former high-ups in the organization 
who claime to have been ruined by the Maharishi – financially as well as 
psychologically. Should he believe them? Is TM just a cynical money machine 
after all, as critics maintain, or a guru sect gone haywire?

Throughout the odyssee that follows David Sieveking never loses the sly sense 
of humor that gives this surprising film its strength, elegance and ambiguous 
charm.
Peers: 17 seeders, 0 leechers, 17 total

RE: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly in San Francisco

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 7:27 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly in San Francisco

 

  

It was interesting to find that several of the more scandalous aspects of
the film were actually blocked from the film by lawsuits. Now ain't that
sattvic!

 

Which parts were those?

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly showing on MUM campus

[Rick Archer]

Hi Rick,

I don't know anything more specific than that students asked for the
permission for a screening and I forwarded the request to my producers.
Right now the film is still running on festivals and there are negotiations
with US distributors.

All the best,

David

***


Hi David,
 
A friend told me that your film was going to be shown on the MUM campus, and
posters were up, but there was some financial dispute over the producers, so
it was cancelled. Do you know anything about this?
 
Regards,
 
Rick

 

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly with San Francisco Friends

[Rick Archer]

http://comingtolifestories.com/2011/01/17/david-wants-to-fly-with-san-franci
sco-friends/

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly in San Francisco

[Vaj]

It was interesting to find that several of the more scandalous  
aspects of the film were actually blocked from the film by lawsuits.  
Now ain't that sattvic!


http://comingtolifestories.com/2011/01/17/david-wants-to-fly-with-san- 
francisco-friends/


LINK

Nearly 30 friends gathered with overwhelming support for a personal  
coming-out gathering, at yesterday’s 4 pm screening of “David Wants  
to Fly” for the German Gems Film Festival in San Francisco’s  
beautiful Castro Theater.


A mutual friend is convinced that I could save Mark from his  
confusing past. So, Mark sat next to me at our pre-film lunch. He was  
raised in Fairfield, Iowa’s Transcendental Meditation community,  
attending Maharishi schools. Like many second generation TMers, Mark  
also spent time on Maharishi’s segregated celibate “Thousand Headed  
Purusha Program” with prolonged mediations and accompanying  
indoctrination videos. Marks parents had alternately served as  
Maharishi University faculty and for David Lynch’s foundation to  
spread TM to the world. As a young adult trying to find his way,  
Mark’s inner battles continue to haunt him as tries to create an  
independent life. He struggles to sort love for family and community  
enmeshed with Maharishi’s world plan, and the insanities he saw  
around him. (...)

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly on MUM Campus

[Rick Archer]

The film was going to be shown. Official posters were up in the Student
Union. But it got cancelled, ostensibly because there was some disagreement
with the producers over how funds from such a showing were to be dispersed.

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly trailer. English

[Vaj]

David Wants to Fly trailer in English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq0rsiw6IFo

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[scienceofabundance]

Anyone here know anything about the "successor quarrel" referred to in the 
David Wants to Fly movie? 

http://www.hotdocs.ca/film/title/david_wants_to_fly

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'David Wants to Fly'

[Bhairitu]

Vaj wrote:
>
> On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Premanand wrote:
>
>> Has anyone seen a preview of this movie by David Sieveking yet?
>> It was shown last weekend, and reviewed in Variety:-
>> http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117942181.html?categoryid=31&cs=1
>> I notice Judith Bourque is listed as appearing, I wonder what she had 
>> to say?
>
>
> I wonder if it will air in FF or Skelm? Looks like it may be a tad too 
> honest for the TM crowd, claiming to out Mahesh's avaricious ways, his 
> multiple affairs and he's even blasted by the Good Shank of the North 
> (and fellow Guru Dev ghost worshipper). Hopefully they'll have boxes 
> of tissues and a cadre of exit counsellors waiting in the wings.
>
>
> Back in Germany, Sieveking signs up for TM lessons. On the first day, 
> he's required to bring some unusual items -- plus a check for E2,380.
>
> While covering the Maharashi's funeral in India and a subsequent 
> convening of his successors (the "Maharajah" and "Rajas") in the 
> Netherlands, Sieveking witnesses a battle for power within the TM 
> empire. He also spotlights some of the organization's questionable 
> plans for world peace (for which they raise millions of dollars) 
> including the fascist-sounding Invincible German and Bramasthan, where 
> 10,000 pandits are supposed to be chanting 24/7.
>
> However, it's when he begins talking to renegade former TMers who 
> spill the beans about the Maharashi's multiple affairs and the way he 
> bled followers for cash (e.g., raja training is available for $1 
> million), that emails start to fly and lawsuits are threatened.
>
> Pic's best moments include visits to the much-vaunted Bramasthan, 
> which turns out to be a ghost town, and to Swami Swaroopanand, 
> successor to Guru Dev, in a village near Tibet. The swami tells 
> Sieveking that the Maharashi, from a trader caste, was merely Dev's 
> bookkeeper and has no right to give mantras or teach meditation. 
> Besides, he notes, "Gurus don't sell their knowledge, they share it."


I'm surprised that David Lynch has stayed with TM this long.  If he 
thinks Hollywood has "too many rules" then maybe he ought to look at the 
TM movement.   One would think he would wake up to the scam.  I'm sure 
many film cohorts have mentioned other meditation courses far less 
expensive and not scams.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'David Wants to Fly'

[Vaj]

On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Premanand wrote:


Has anyone seen a preview of this movie by David Sieveking yet?
It was shown last weekend, and reviewed in Variety:-
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117942181.html?categoryid=31&cs=1
I notice Judith Bourque is listed as appearing, I wonder what she  
had to say?



I wonder if it will air in FF or Skelm? Looks like it may be a tad  
too honest for the TM crowd, claiming to out Mahesh's avaricious  
ways, his multiple affairs and he's even blasted by the Good Shank of  
the North (and fellow Guru Dev ghost worshipper). Hopefully they'll  
have boxes of tissues and a cadre of exit counsellors waiting in the  
wings.



Back in Germany, Sieveking signs up for TM lessons. On the first day,  
he's required to bring some unusual items -- plus a check for E2,380.


While covering the Maharashi's funeral in India and a subsequent  
convening of his successors (the "Maharajah" and "Rajas") in the  
Netherlands, Sieveking witnesses a battle for power within the TM  
empire. He also spotlights some of the organization's questionable  
plans for world peace (for which they raise millions of dollars)  
including the fascist-sounding Invincible German and Bramasthan,  
where 10,000 pandits are supposed to be chanting 24/7.


However, it's when he begins talking to renegade former TMers who  
spill the beans about the Maharashi's multiple affairs and the way he  
bled followers for cash (e.g., raja training is available for $1  
million), that emails start to fly and lawsuits are threatened.


Pic's best moments include visits to the much-vaunted Bramasthan,  
which turns out to be a ghost town, and to Swami Swaroopanand,  
successor to Guru Dev, in a village near Tibet. The swami tells  
Sieveking that the Maharashi, from a trader caste, was merely Dev's  
bookkeeper and has no right to give mantras or teach meditation.  
Besides, he notes, "Gurus don't sell their knowledge, they share it."

[FairfieldLife] 'David Wants to Fly'

[Premanand]

Has anyone seen a preview of this movie by David Sieveking yet?
It was shown last weekend, and reviewed in Variety:-
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117942181.html?categoryid=31&cs=1
I notice Judith Bourque is listed as appearing, I wonder what she had to say?

Re: [FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Sal Sunshine]

On Feb 7, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Vaj wrote:

> "David Wants to Fly" opens at Berlin Film Festival, a young filmmaker's 
> experience of David Lynch and Transcendental Meditation

Should be good--hope we get to see
it over here in the good old US.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] David Wants to Fly

[Vaj]

>From TMFree:

http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2010/02/david-wants-to-fly-opens-at-berlin-film.html

"David Wants to Fly" opens at Berlin Film Festival, a young filmmaker's 
experience of David Lynch and Transcendental Meditation
Posted by Gina at 2/07/2010 10:50:00 AM
A few years ago, a young film maker met his creative idol, David Lynch. 
The young filmmaker wished to absorb all that he could learn from his creative 
guru.

Naturally, the young filmmaker was encouraged to learn Transcendental 
Meditation. When the young man, David Sieveking, began questioning the 
TM-Siddhi program, he was suddenly denied access to further TM information and 
no longer had access to David Lynch. Sieveking thought, "There's a story here!"

The documentary about Sieveking's global journey to learn about the TM Movement 
opens this month at the prestigious Berlinale - the Berlin Film Festival.

For our central European TMFree readers, the show schedule is :

12 February, 2010 CineStar 7 17:00 Premiere 

13 February, 2010 Cubix 7 17:30

14 February, 2010 Colosseum 1 15:30

The online festival press release for "David Wants to Fly" can be readhere 
(scroll down a tad).

We are not able to get away to attend the film opening. If any of our readers 
attend the show, feel free to write a review for us to post. A European film 
distributor will be distributing the film. We will inform you when a DVD is 
available.