Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
Richard, thank you so much. This is such a rich explanation. I appreciate how you not only use the old snake and rope analogy, but also the pot analogy which I've never heard. Also wonderful is how you make the discernment between identification and superimposition. Thanks again for taking the time to explain this so well. Superimposition is such a, dare I say, layered word and I'd never heard it used this way before. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:39 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/2/2014 12:26 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I still wish you would say more about what is meant by suffering being caused by the superimposition of the material onto the non material. The superimposition doctrine is the cornerstone of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta. Shankaracharya explains the genesis of ignorance and our perception of the plurality of things in terms of superimposition, what Maharishi called identification. The classic example is the rope-snake metaphor: In the night you see a snake; in the light of day you realize what you thought was a snake was but a coiled-up rope. The perception of a plurality of things, where there is only one thing, is a superimposition; the analogy of the space in the pot - the point being that there is only one space inside or outside a pot. This is only a superimposition to think that it is a pot with different spaces inside or out. Read more: 'A Companion Encyclopedia of Asia Philosophy' By Brian Carr and Indira Mahalingam Routledge, 1997 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:15 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
Richard, I still wish you would say more about what is meant by suffering being caused by the superimposition of the material onto the non material. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:15 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
On 3/2/2014 12:26 PM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I still wish you would say more about what is meant by suffering being caused by the superimposition of the material onto the non material. The superimposition doctrine is the cornerstone of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta. Shankaracharya explains the genesis of ignorance and our perception of the plurality of things in terms of superimposition, what Maharishi called identification. The classic example is the rope-snake metaphor: In the night you see a snake; in the light of day you realize what you thought was a snake was but a coiled-up rope. The perception of a plurality of things, where there is only one thing, is a superimposition; the analogy of the space in the pot - the point being that there is only one space inside or outside a pot. This is only a superimposition to think that it is a pot with different spaces inside or out. Read more: 'A Companion Encyclopedia of Asia Philosophy' By Brian Carr and Indira Mahalingam Routledge, 1997 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:15 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
I was talking about the song And as long as you are quoting the Yoga Sutras: The “pain” Patanjali talks about in 2:16, “Pain that has not yet come is avoidable.” is clarified in the sutra that immediately follows it, 2:17: “The cause of that avoidable pain is the union of the Seer (Purusha) and seen (Prakriti).” From this we understand how our world is experienced and how we always identify ourselves with what is seen. Just as those who have a unbending need to always see TM as the answer to everything in life, when they look upon the seen, they will experience an illusion, an attachment of TM is the answer! Thus continuing to bind themselves to illusion, therefore pain, and continue further experiences upon the wheel of karma. Now how about that? I used the yoga sutras to smash all the TB'ers illusions!! No, I think it was the Indian Patanjali who wrote the Yoga Sutras: What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra II.16
[FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
Avert the danger before it arises! Every nation wants to be invincible thirsting for underlying principle now we know the way dear Maharishi says: Avert the danger before it arises long before the army mobilizes. In raising world consciousness world purity will grow no enemy will be born only happiness will grow ringing the bell of invincibility. mjackson74 writes: I wish I could find a copy of that old song - it was my favorite
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
was it Emily Levin who wrote that, or was it someone else? On Wed, 2/19/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises! To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 12:47 AM Avert the danger before it arises! Every nation wants to be invincible thirsting for underlying principle now we know the way dear Maharishi says: Avert the danger before it arises long before the army mobilizes. In raising world consciousness world purity will grow no enemy will be born only happiness will grow ringing the bell of invincibility. mjackson74 writes:I wish I could find a copy of that old song - it was my favorite
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
On 2/18/2014 6:47 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Avert the danger before it arises! pains 2 avoid What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra 2.16 It's a little easier to understand when you read the YS in context: 2:15 - Everything is suffering for the wise man because of change, stress, and anxiety. 2:17 - The cause of the suffering is the super-imposition of the material onto the immaterial.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Avert the danger, before it arises!
On 2/18/2014 8:26 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: was it Emily Levin who wrote that, or was it someone else? No, I think it was the Indian Patanjali who wrote the Yoga Sutras: What is to be avoided is suffering that has not yet come. - Yoga Sutra II.16
