Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
His followers believe the country should be run like a business. Do they realize that once you set foot in a big corporation your personal rights mean nothing anymore? And most likely on the surreal chance that he ever would get into office his first address to the American public would be, "you're fired!" On 01/24/2016 11:59 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Exactly - a one trump pony. He can understanding netting out a balance sheet, but nuance and moderation cannot be measured in dollars and cents, so he is lost. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale.Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" is a matter of perspec! tive which many of these one-dimensional people have a limited view of (make the deal and you're the winner - all else be damned). Trump is not so much a "monster" because he does what he does in business. What makes him so odious, in my view, is that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in his bid to continue to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he could almost do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. The guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or selflessness. All of that in the hands of a world leader can, inevitably, make them monstrous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to bu! ild an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
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Exactly - a one trump pony. He can understanding netting out a balance sheet, but nuance and moderation cannot be measured in dollars and cents, so he is lost. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" is a matter of perspective which many of these one-dimensional people have a limited view of (make the deal and you're the winner - all else be damned). Trump is not so much a "monster" because he does what he does in business. What makes him so odious, in my view, is that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in his bid to continue to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he could almost do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. The guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or selflessness. All of that in the hands of a world leader can, inevitably, make them monstrous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" is a matter of perspective which many of these one-dimensional people have a limited view of (make the deal and you're the winner - all else be damned). Trump is not so much a "monster" because he does what he does in business. What makes him so odious, in my view, is that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in his bid to continue to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he could almost do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. The guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or selflessness. All of that in the hands of a world leader can, inevitably, make them monstrous. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
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Kind of like Saul Alinsky of business, eh? President Obama and Hillary are Saul Alinsky followers. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his rol
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
I think "subordinary" is the best descriptor yet. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's no
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they
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And he doesn't play by the rules either! From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he'
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He's not very PC! From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we brin
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He sucks all of the oxygen out of the room , doesn't he? Nobody pays any attention to the others.He gets all of the media attention and it doesn't cost him a dime and it's all* politics*. Guy is pretty Effin smart, especially when he horrifies his opposition. But then he knows his opposition are a bunch of wimps that can't handle it because they are accustomed to PC. It's like Mike Tyson vs Mahatma Gandhi. It's horrifying! Somebody is going to get the crap beat out of them. The gloves are off! LOL! Anne, many people think the reason McCain and Romney lost their elections was because they wouldn't go on the attack. They didn't want to appear too negative because it would turn off the undecided voters, it wouldn't be politically correct. Some people see Political Correctness as Political castration, intending to make one side impotent. I think Trump is testing that. Hillary is not a sympathetic figure. She was in charge of the Bimbo irruptions. She threatened the women that called- out Bill while saying every woman should be believed when it comes to sexual assault. She denied more security in Bhengazi. Trump can come- off like a wife beater when dealing with Hillary in the campaign and it won't hurt him ... and he probably will. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: Fairfiel
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least
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Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anythi
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him! I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first: http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but
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I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him. So no, I'm not qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right. I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as *advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the *negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a good idea to you? I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" with. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try his strong arming in the political world as President. Trump is a menace. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation
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Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills? If you are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the National Review also! From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try his strong arming in the political world as President. Trump is a menace. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump | | | | | | Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font sizeAA AA AA AA AA AA AA by... | | |View on www.nationalreview... | Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv1963589475 #yiv1963589475 -- #yiv1963589475yg
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. Nice post. The only place where I think you made a wee understatement was "Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office". I wouldn't let her open a door for me let alone run a cabinet office. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-me
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try his strong arming in the political world as President. Trump is a menace. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... View on www.nationalreview... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Preview by Yahoo
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Ummm Ollie, I think Trump has said that he would give her a *high position* in his administration. I don't think we have a federal Dog Catcher General but IRS Commissioner would be nice payback. From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I was shocked and appalled to see Sarah P. introducing The Donald, though I figured he was just exploiting what little appeal she has, like any businessman would. Now to read that he would give her a cabinet position really betrays his absolute cluelessness wrt national politics. They should go off together and build some resorts or something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two
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"...it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal." Definitely. They have painted themselves into a corner by upping their rhetoric to an unrealistic level, and now the only response they have is a negative one. Having been unsuccessful at thwarting Obama, the party is split between those who seek any kind of compromise, and those who think they are not yet radical enough, to meet the voice of the people. And they certainly can't claim rights to fiscal conservatism, after the last performance by G.W. Bush, now echoed in his brother's (John Ellis Bush - call me 'Jeb'...) absolute lack of traction towards the nomination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long a
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I was shocked and appalled to see Sarah P. introducing The Donald, though I figured he was just exploiting what little appeal she has, like any businessman would. Now to read that he would give her a cabinet position really betrays his absolute cluelessness wrt national politics. They should go off together and build some resorts or something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally
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Republicans weren't allowed in the room when Obamacare was written or negotiated. They weren't even allowed to read it! From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump | | | | | | Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on G
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Yeah, Obama was a little known state senator a couple of years and a US Senator a couple. He dipped his toe in the political waters. Never accomplished anything as a Senator either.Yes, he got elected making speeches saying what everyone wanted to hear without specifics. Didn't fool me though. I think there were a couple of things in his favor. First, he was as Joe Biden put it, a clean cut articulate black guy that didn't sound black. He was the perfect guy to clear the conscience of white guilt. "I voted for the first black President, that proves I'm not a racist!" Second, He was the perfect guy to clear our conscience with the Arab middle-east after Iraq, a guy named Barrack Hussein Obama. "They'll see that we really aren't Islamophobes!" Obama proclaimed that he was the One that we've all been waiting for. Then he went on his apology tour. Sure was a lot of guilt being accounted for.Would Trump fool everyone? Hell, I don't know. He's not my guy but I understand why people are supporting him. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump You're forgetting that Obama was a Senator. Probably not long enough though to have really good experience. He got elected making speeches that had what people want to hear. Trump is doing that too with his speeches. Gonna be fooled again? On 01/22/2016 10:03 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday
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I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office. I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Ar
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You're forgetting that Obama was a Senator. Probably not long enough though to have really good experience. He got elected making speeches that had what people want to hear. Trump is doing that too with his speeches. Gonna be fooled again? On 01/22/2016 10:03 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. *From:* feste37 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? *From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. *From:* "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump <http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace> image Against Trump <http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace> Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... View on www.nationalreview... <http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace> Preview by Yahoo
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Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar *empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students. Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"? However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. It's always my way or they high way. If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump | | | | | | Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font sizeAA AA AA AA AA AA AA by... | | |View on www.nationalreview... | Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650 -- #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp #yiv1620687650hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp #yiv1620687650ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp .yiv1620687650ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp .yiv1620687650ad p {margin:0;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-mkp .yiv1620687650ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-sponsor #yiv1620687650ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-sponsor #yiv1620687650ygrp-lc #yiv1620687650hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650ygrp-sponsor #yiv1620687650ygrp-lc .yiv1620687650ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv1620687650 #yiv1620687650act
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
Cruz is your quintessential Tea Party Republican. From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump || |||| Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ...|| | View on www.nationalreview...|Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160 -- #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp #yiv4428686160hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp #yiv4428686160ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp .yiv4428686160ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp .yiv4428686160ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-mkp .yiv4428686160ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-sponsor #yiv4428686160ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-sponsor #yiv4428686160ygrp-lc #yiv4428686160hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160ygrp-sponsor #yiv4428686160ygrp-lc .yiv4428686160ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv4428686160 #yiv4428686160activity span .yiv4428686160underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv4428686160 .yiv4428686160bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 dd.yiv4428686160last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4428686160 dd.yiv4428686160last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv4428686160 dd.yiv4428686160last p span.yiv4428686160yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv4428686160 div.yiv4428686160attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv4428686160 div.yiv4428686160attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv4428686160 div.yiv4428686160file-title a, #yiv4428686160 div.yiv4428686160file-title a:active, #yiv4428686160 div.yiv4428686160file-tit
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
Many politicians have massive egos always available for stroking, so Trump doesn't stand out for me in that way. But he is completely unqualified, and his simplistic business mindset would be a disaster. He has no vision for the country. Yes, he will shoot himself in the foot, reloading several times, should he become the nominee. Unlike his cable TV shows and casinos, people tend to take the Presidency a little bit more seriously. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. I agree on all counts. This is a person who is seriously deranged, he is a raving narcissist and exists only to have his ego stroked, to have his ravenous appetite for attention sated. His universe consists of him and anything that can serve his terrible personal needs. This does not make for a good leader because he lacks compassion, understanding as well as an ability to self reflect with regard to the picture that must involve everyone else on the planet. Egocentricity is not, I repeat NOT, something that has a place in the leader of a country. While there might be millions who do not understand this there are more millions that do and will illustrate this in their vote for another candidate on election day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... View on www.nationalreview... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. I agree on all counts. This is a person who is seriously deranged, he is a raving narcissist and exists only to have his ego stroked, to have his ravenous appetite for attention sated. His universe consists of him and anything that can serve his terrible personal needs. This does not make for a good leader because he lacks compassion, understanding as well as an ability to self reflect with regard to the picture that must involve everyone else on the planet. Egocentricity is not, I repeat NOT, something that has a place in the leader of a country. While there might be millions who do not understand this there are more millions that do and will illustrate this in their vote for another candidate on election day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... View on www.nationalreview... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Against Trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ... View on www.nationalreview... http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more specific? From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump || |||| Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ...|| | View on www.nationalreview...|Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639 -- #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp #yiv5208229639hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp #yiv5208229639ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad p {margin:0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-mkp .yiv5208229639ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc #yiv5208229639hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639ygrp-sponsor #yiv5208229639ygrp-lc .yiv5208229639ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv5208229639 #yiv5208229639activity span .yiv5208229639underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 .yiv5208229639bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv5208229639 dd.yiv5208229639last p span.yiv5208229639yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:active, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:hover, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:active, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:hover, #yiv5208229639 div.yiv5208229639photo-title a:visit
Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not because they hate Cruz. From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump. Against Trump || |||| Against Trump Share article on Facebookshare Tweet articletweet Plus one article on Google Plus+1 Print Article Email article Adjust font size AA AA AA AA AA AA AA by ...|| | View on www.nationalreview...|Preview by Yahoo| || #yiv9693281737 -- #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp #yiv9693281737hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp #yiv9693281737ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp .yiv9693281737ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp .yiv9693281737ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-mkp .yiv9693281737ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-sponsor #yiv9693281737ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-sponsor #yiv9693281737ygrp-lc #yiv9693281737hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737ygrp-sponsor #yiv9693281737ygrp-lc .yiv9693281737ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737activity span .yiv9693281737underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 dd.yiv9693281737last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9693281737 dd.yiv9693281737last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9693281737 dd.yiv9693281737last p span.yiv9693281737yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737file-title a, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737file-title a:active, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737file-title a:hover, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737photo-title a, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737photo-title a:active, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737photo-title a:hover, #yiv9693281737 div.yiv9693281737photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9693281737 div#yiv9693281737ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9693281737ygrp-msg p a span.yiv9693281737yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv9693281737 .yiv9693281737MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv9693281737 o {font-size:0;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv9693281737 #yiv9693281737photos div label {col
[FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
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