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On 3/12/2014 2:40 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." > This is probably true, but I still would like to know how you were brought under so much mind control by Rama that you actually believe you saw him levitate up into the air and hover in front of a large crowd of people. This event isn't mentioned in any reports I've read about Rama and his cult. It's not mentioned in Mark Laxer's book or anywhere on the Rama Cult blog. You'd think this would be an earth shattering event! Go figure. Speaking of having fun with pundits, it looks like you don't want to talk about the Rama levitation event, but you keep bringing the subject up about other people believing in fantasies and lying to themselves. I'm beginning to think you're just trying to push our buttons for fun and amusement - maybe we should just call in the shrinks. Where is Dr.Pete when we need him? Take Me For A Ride, by Mark Laxer: http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/
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Reckon the Jefferson County Sheriffs Dept. will submit a bill to MUM for the repair of the sheriff's vehicle? Or the other responders who were called in to quell the uprising? I wonder how many native Iowans would be not in jail after such an event. On Wed, 3/12/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 7:40 AM So this is the "spin." And it will WORK for those who have the "will to believe" rather than the "wish to find out." The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame "outside forces" for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the "real story." There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish & Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an "exit interview" with the "pundit leader" who was "disciplined" and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly "disciplined" for? Does he agree with the "charges" leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this "uprising" and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Or, said another way: Another "gold mine" find by Bawwy via FB, indicative of his intellectual depth of investigation once again. And this to, once again, take an opportunity to gloat. Remember Bawwy condensed is, "I hate you all, so there." From: TurquoiseBee To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits So this is the "spin." And it will WORK for those who have the "will to believe" rather than the "wish to find out." The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame "outside forces" for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the "real story." There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish & Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an "exit interview" with the "pundit leader" who was "disciplined" and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly "disciplined" for? Does he agree with the "charges" leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this "uprising" and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: "anartaxius@..." To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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"Leaders had planned to send the man home to India, but decided not to after what witnesses described as an 'uprising' on the campus" http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vkZxuoOz http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vkZxuoOz Opsie. Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.?
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And not a WORD about Robin Carlsen, OR Judy - Bravo! Seriously, you are so woefully ignorant of your own emotional needs, and trauma, it is both sad, and funny, to watch you instantly transfer your inner rage, to the subject du jour. I doubt, at this point in your life, you will ever face yourself, and whatever you have been through. You continuously rant against "bad things" and "bad people", to distract yourself. You are convinced that if the TMO did not exist, and all of those who support it, and Maharishi's teaching, you would finally be happy. Your holy grail. But, happiness comes from within. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So this is the "spin." And it will WORK for those who have the "will to believe" rather than the "wish to find out." The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame "outside forces" for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the "real story." There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish & Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an "exit interview" with the "pundit leader" who was "disciplined" and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly "disciplined" for? Does he agree with the "charges" leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this "uprising" and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: "anartaxius@..." To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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Or, said another way: From: TurquoiseBee To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits So this is the "spin." And it will WORK for those who have the "will to believe" rather than the "wish to find out." The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame "outside forces" for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the "real story." There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish & Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an "exit interview" with the "pundit leader" who was "disciplined" and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly "disciplined" for? Does he agree with the "charges" leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this "uprising" and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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So this is the "spin." And it will WORK for those who have the "will to believe" rather than the "wish to find out." The fascinating thing from my cult-watcher point of view is that a great number of TM TBs will pay no attention to this revelation of what the young men behind the curtain are, no more than they paid any attention to revelations that Maharishi was diddling his own students. A well-known fact of neuroscience is that most people will do almost *anything* to keep from abandoning a long-standing belief or belief system. Lying to themselves and continuing to believe in fantasies is perceived by them as far less painful than actually changing or modifying one's beliefs, and thus having to admit "I was w...w...w...wrong." I would expect that all over the world TM TBs will hear about the Fairfield pundit riot, find some way to blame "outside forces" for it, and continue to write their monthly checks to support the pundits and continue writing even bigger checks to have the rioters chant to Hindu gods for them in yagyas. The thing I wish would happen in this scenario unfortunately probably never will. That is, that we'll get to find out the "real story." There is a way to do this, and a very simple one, but I would bet that it'll never happen, because Girish & Co. will keep it from happening. That is, have a good reporter sit down and do an "exit interview" with the "pundit leader" who was "disciplined" and whose exit prompted all of this acting out. Give him the chance to tell *his* story. What was he supposedly "disciplined" for? Does he agree with the "charges" leveled against him? What's the story on the indentured servitude aspect of the Maharishi pundits -- is it really true that the pundits' parents aren't paid a penny if the pundit doesn't complete his three years of service? Now that he's been "sent home," will *his* parents not receive a penny that was promised to them when they sold their son into slavery, to Girish & Co.? What's the daily life of a Maharishi pundit really like? Wouldn't you like to learn the answers to such questions? To find out what *prompted* this "uprising" and rock-throwing and rioting among boys who have been presented to the world as not only the personification of peace, but the creators of it? You won't. The TMO will keep spinning and spinning, and the rubes will keep falling for it. From: "anartax...@yahoo.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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A-W-E-S-O-M-E. I see the tanning bed is helping. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL - It was probably staged for just that reason, trying to boost Iowa's image as "edgy". If this hadn't worked, I heard Bevan, upon strict orders from King Tony, was going to streak the Dome. Lucky that didn't happen, as fatalities would certainly have occurred. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo Finally something has occurred that appears more exciting than the infamous Robin Carlsen helicopter drop. It only took 30 years.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : LOL - It was probably staged for just that reason, trying to boost Iowa's image as "edgy". If this hadn't worked, I heard Bevan, upon strict orders from King Tony, was going to streak the Dome. Lucky that didn't happen, as fatalities would certainly have occurred. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo Finally something has occurred that appears more exciting than the infamous Robin Carlsen helicopter drop. It only took 30 years.
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LOL - It was probably staged for just that reason, trying to boost Iowa's image as "edgy". If this hadn't worked, I heard Bevan, upon strict orders from King Tony, was going to streak the Dome. Lucky that didn't happen, as fatalities would certainly have occurred. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo Finally something has occurred that appears more exciting than the infamous Robin Carlsen helicopter drop. It only took 30 years.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo Finally something has occurred that appears more exciting than the infamous Robin Carlsen helicopter drop. It only took 30 years.
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This one has video - let the first minute play, then the news report begins - note the bullshit where the reporter says the pundits have no affiliation with MUM http://www.heartlandconnection.com/news/story.aspx?id=1017547#.Ux-X-oVRHKc On Tue, 3/11/14, Michael Jackson wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:59 PM This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo On Tue, 3/11/14, Michael Jackson wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:50 PM From the Fairfield Ledger - I can't get the whole article without registering or paying which I am not gonna do but I bet its a grand article: Group of pandits attacks sheriff By ANDY HALLMAN A group of pandits at the pandit campus near Vedic City attacked Jefferson County Sheriff Gregg Morton this morning by throwing rocks through the windows in his vehicle and rocking the vehicle back and forth. According to a press release from the .. On Tue, 3/11/14, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:42 P No worries - nothing like a "harmonious meeting" to clear the air. Only in Fairfield. Thanks to our public servants for stepping up to help with the harmony: Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, the Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property an
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On 3/11/2014 5:42 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: > No worries - nothing like a "harmonious meeting" to clear the air. > According to my sources, there is a meeting tonight in Vedic City with the Mayor.
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On 3/11/2014 5:40 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: > World peace - they have the pundits rioting and throwing rocks at law > enforcement and they are gonna create world peace? > Maybe it's not a good idea for you to worry about world peace. You just get to work and worry about your ex-wife stopping by unannounced. You gonna fix that computer or yak about pundit boys all day and all night? Go figure.
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This is nice too from the KCRG tv station that is in Cedar Rapids "It looked like a Christmas tree, all lit up with lights," one witness said in describing the line of law enforcement on the road leading to the campus, which is just north of Fairfield. Hundreds of pandits live and practice peace on the grounds. It's a project that's been in the area for nearly a decade. By mid-morning, law enforcement pulled out of the area and pandit leaders escorted the group back to their property. Leaders say it's the first time anything like it has happened on campus. No one was hurt in the incident. It's not clear what will happen to the pandit whose removal caused the outcry. Read more: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Peace-Restored-On-Pandit-Campus-Near-Vedic-City-After-Morning-Incident-249577271.html#ixzz2vhKSHKBo On Tue, 3/11/14, Michael Jackson wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:50 PM From the Fairfield Ledger - I can't get the whole article without registering or paying which I am not gonna do but I bet its a grand article: Group of pandits attacks sheriff By ANDY HALLMAN A group of pandits at the pandit campus near Vedic City attacked Jefferson County Sheriff Gregg Morton this morning by throwing rocks through the windows in his vehicle and rocking the vehicle back and forth. According to a press release from the .. On Tue, 3/11/14, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:42 P No worries - nothing like a "harmonious meeting" to clear the air. Only in Fairfield. Thanks to our public servants for stepping up to help with the harmony: Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, the Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked
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>From the Fairfield Ledger - I can't get the whole article without registering >or paying which I am not gonna do but I bet its a grand article: Group of pandits attacks sheriff By ANDY HALLMAN A group of pandits at the pandit campus near Vedic City attacked Jefferson County Sheriff Gregg Morton this morning by throwing rocks through the windows in his vehicle and rocking the vehicle back and forth. According to a press release from the .. On Tue, 3/11/14, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 10:42 P No worries - nothing like a "harmonious meeting" to clear the air. Only in Fairfield. Thanks to our public servants for stepping up to help with the harmony: Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, the Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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but they're supposed to be dedicated to creating world peace - now doesn't this give you pause to reflect on the lack of efficacy of TM, TMSP in groups and yagya chanting for them to behave this way? Of course since the Movement screws up everything it touches one might explain it that-a-way. On a more serious note, the Movement will NEVER end the pundit program because the make way too much money off of it from gullible people who believe their donations are helping to create world peace - its a cash cow for Bevan, Hagelin, Girish and all the rest. World peace - they have the pundits rioting and throwing rocks at law enforcement and they are gonna create world peace? On Tue, 3/11/14, feste37 wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 9:33 PM This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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No worries - nothing like a "harmonious meeting" to clear the air. Only in Fairfield. Thanks to our public servants for stepping up to help with the harmony: Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, the Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"; mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer mailto:rick@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news http://www.ottumwaeveningpost.com/9470/s/local-news
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This report is a disaster for the pundit program. I think the program should be shut down as it has obviously failed. To my knowledge, there has never been a riot like this in Fairfield. It's an acute embarrassment for the movement and terrible for town-university relations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee mailto:turquoiseb@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"; mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer mailto:rick@...> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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This seems like unusually violent behavior for a group of men who spend their days reciting the vedic texts and doing yagyas for world peace. Usually when bad behavior manifests amongst the TM ranks, the official Movement position is that the people were not "on the program" not doing the program correctly - wonder what type of training in yagya these boys had. On Tue, 3/11/14, TurquoiseBee wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, March 11, 2014, 6:38 PM (3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under ControlOn March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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(3/11) UPDATE: BREAKING NEWS Pundit Campus Under Control On March 11, 2014 at 0600 hrs, the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was contacted by personnel of the pandit project on Invincible America Drive to assist the security personnel as there was a pandit leader that was being escorted off the property and they were worried that there would be problems. The Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office was there only to ensure the safety of all involved. Prior to the pandit entering the van to leave the property, there were approximately 60 to 70 other pandits that had congregated in the area. These pandits became increasingly agitated and resorted to throwing rocks at security and sheriff personnel. The pandit was loaded in the van and as the van was leaving the area, a larger group of pandits ran towards the front gate area. The van did exit the area and was not stopped by the large group. The large group then knocked down a gate that adjoins 170th street and started walking east on 170th Street blocking the whole street. The sheriff’s personnel attempted to divert the large group back onto the pandit complex but were unable to do so. The group then surrounded the marked patrol vehicle and threw rocks at the driver, threw rocks at the back window breaking the window, they attempted to break off the mirrors, kicked out a back light and were rocking the vehicle. There were approximately 70-80 pandits surrounding the vehicle. The sheriff’s vehicle was able to back away from the crowd and call for assistance. The large group then continued east on 170th street picking up rocks and debris and continued to throw these at the sheriff’s vehicle. After some time, pandit personnel were able to stop the group about ¼ to ½ of a mile from the property and after some time were able to walk them back to the pandit property. Law enforcement agencies staged close to the entrance of the property on 170th street to contain the group if they did come back onto the roadway. All units were able to go back into service at around 1000 hrs. Assistance was provided by the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Reserve, Fairfield Police Department, Iowa State Patrol, Iowa Department of Transportation Vehicle Enforcement, Iowa DNR law enforcement, Wapello County Sheriff’s Office and the Fairfield Fire Department. No personnel were injured during this incident. From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun with Pundits [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] See attached.
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