Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the double entendre nicely. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his disposition. LoL! On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the double entendre nicely. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his disposition. LoL! Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good for a momentary burst of bliss. On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the double entendre nicely. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
We really need to cut emptybill some slack about this, Ann. He said his wife passed away - may she rest in peace. So, maybe that's a real tragedy, but why is he taking it out on me? I'm just trying to share information to make this group more interesting to read, unlike some others who seem to just want to wreck it. Go figure. Now he's taking care of his daughter, so I guess we can assume that he practiced tantric yoga at least once in his life. I've spent forty years investigating the tantric tradition and it's relation to TM practice and studied with three tantric teachers. It's just a shame that we can't get more substantive information about tantra out of him, instead of all the grief he has directed at me and Vaj, seeing as how we're all three Buddhists. But, he doesn't sound much like a Buddhist and his teacher seems to have mixed up the dualism of the Sankhya with the non-dualism of the Vajrayana, so I can't really figure him or his teacher out. Apparently his teacher thinks making puja to Shiva is the 'original' tantra, but everyone knows that Shiva worship came after the historical Buddha and the rise of the devotional sects in India, at the beginning of the Gupta period. Go figure. Did I tell you I attended the Kalachakra initiation with the Tibetan Dalai Lama at Los Angeles in July, 1989? As in all Vajryana practices, the Kalachakra initiation empowers the disciple to practice tantra in the service of attaining enlightenment, not for the mere acquisition of material goods or fortune from Laksmi, but to attune the mind for the acceptance of voidness. So, far from being 'empty, our Bill seems to be pretty full of himself,but maybe he's just lashing out from prolonged grief - I don't know. On 11/1/2013 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his disposition. LoL! Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good for a momentary burst of bliss. On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the double entendre nicely. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
As you may have gathered by now I am not big on theoretical spiritual teachings nor am I a leaner towards book learning on things spiritual or the following of gurus. I tried it once and although it was interesting it ended rather badly. So I can not take sides in this debate about who has practiced tantric yoga with the greatest alacrity or whose Buddhist monk friend was/is higher on the evolutionary scale. So if you two want to spar over this kind of thing go right ahead. I'll be out in the forest somewhere listening to the owls. On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:54:27 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: We really need to cut emptybill some slack about this, Ann. He said his wife passed away - may she rest in peace. So, maybe that's a real tragedy, but why is he taking it out on me? I'm just trying to share information to make this group more interesting to read, unlike some others who seem to just want to wreck it. Go figure. Now he's taking care of his daughter, so I guess we can assume that he practiced tantric yoga at least once in his life. I've spent forty years investigating the tantric tradition and it's relation to TM practice and studied with three tantric teachers. It's just a shame that we can't get more substantive information about tantra out of him, instead of all the grief he has directed at me and Vaj, seeing as how we're all three Buddhists. But, he doesn't sound much like a Buddhist and his teacher seems to have mixed up the dualism of the Sankhya with the non-dualism of the Vajrayana, so I can't really figure him or his teacher out. Apparently his teacher thinks making puja to Shiva is the 'original' tantra, but everyone knows that Shiva worship came after the historical Buddha and the rise of the devotional sects in India, at the beginning of the Gupta period. Go figure. Did I tell you I attended the Kalachakra initiation with the Tibetan Dalai Lama at Los Angeles in July, 1989? As in all Vajryana practices, the Kalachakra initiation empowers the disciple to practice tantra in the service of attaining enlightenment, not for the mere acquisition of material goods or fortune from Laksmi, but to attune the mind for the acceptance of voidness. So, far from being 'empty, our Bill seems to be pretty full of himself,but maybe he's just lashing out from prolonged grief - I don't know. On 11/1/2013 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his disposition. LoL! Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good for a momentary burst of bliss. On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition very much. Go figure. First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term get a grip finishes off the double entendre nicely. On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche?
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Troll - A person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses. Note: The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant of Internet etiquette. AMT Troll FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/2977cj http://tinyurl.com/2977cj On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology.
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emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking
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What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
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So, you speak some Tibetan. You are doing the Rudrâbhishekam for what purpose? For purification, acquisition, or for preparing the mind to accept voidness? Go figure. According to H. von Glasenapp, tantrism was originally Hindu, but this view has long since been abandoned: The contemporary view is that Buddhist tantrism preceded Hindu tantrism (Bharati p. 109). Work cited: 'The Tantric Tradition' by Agehananda Bharati Rider, 1965 On 10/31/2013 5:54 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta/dp/8120817346/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1383220372sr=1-1keywords=Sanjukta+Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: What a fucking idiot you are. When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms. Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. He pointed at the Lingam and said Oh - Original Tantra! That was 2005. He asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't do a daily abhisheka but rather did it as desired ... kamya ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra. He even considers Sankhya to be very close in its conclusions and metaphysics to Dzogchen. All this just show how shallow your ideas are ... fool. What else to expect from a mere book reading Troll. ideas might be the operative word here. I don't have the time or the disposition for living and practicing ideas. I am far too busy living life. Try it, you might find it has lots more meat on the bone. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: emptybill: I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. So, you're performing a daily Hindu sacrifice to the Rudra lingham, at the same time you're trying to practice under a Tibetan Buddhist Rinpoche? Where is Vaj when we need him? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancharatra Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. And, why would I want to read a book to learn about the Laksmi Tantra? I'm not even interested in Hindu Tantrism - my interest is Tibetan Tantra. Can you speak any Tibetan? http://www.amazon.com/Laksmi-Tantra-Pancaratra-Sanjukta-Gupta On 10/30/2013 8:15 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA.
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You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. TM practice is almost pure tantra practice, with a little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. Read more: Subject: TM in the Tantras Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: Friday, Jan 21 2005 http://tinyurl.com/7qtr78 http://tinyurl.com/7qtr78
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Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. TM practice is almost pure tantra practice, with a little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. Read more: Subject: TM in the Tantras Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: Friday, Jan 21 2005 http://tinyurl.com/7qtr78
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You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. TM practice is almost pure tantra practice, with a little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. Read more: Subject: TM in the Tantras Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: Friday, Jan 21 2005 http://tinyurl.com/7qtr78
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You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. TM practice is almost pure tantra practice, with a little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. Read more: Subject: TM in the Tantras Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: Friday, Jan 21 2005 http://tinyurl.com/7qtr78
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
You are incorrect - I've been teaching people how to meditate for forty years. I learned Zen meditation under Shunryo Suzulki. And, I've studied with three Tantra teachers. TM is just for beginners. In fact, I was one of the first Americans to practice Tantra under Tarthang Tulku back in 1967. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarthang_Tulku On 10/30/2013 7:18 PM, Bhairitu wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: Inline image 1 SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda was probably compiled before the Aryan speakers even arrived in India. TM practice is almost pure tantra practice, with a little fertilizer thrown in for good measure. Read more: Subject: TM in the Tantras Author: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.meditation, alt.yoga Date: Friday, Jan 21 2005
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the composition of the Rig Veda, during the Gupta Age in India. Bija mantras are products of the Indian alchemists, not the Vedic rishis. The Rig Veda
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Here Here. There There. Finally an accurate summary of the pompous Troll. Hey Troll! Me too ... I do the Pâñcharâtra Mahâ-Rudrâbhishekam. It's Tantric ... asshole. It's such bullshit what you say ... Lakshmi this - Lakshmi that. Why don't you read something useful. Laksmi Tantra translated by Sanjukta Gupta. Then pray yer stinking ass off that you can meet someone that can show you something useful. Tantric usefull - idiot. You don't do anything except read stuff and make grand claims. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: You were not even a teacher of TM, I was. You were never a tantric. I am. KMA. This made me laugh. Are all tantrics this 'down to earth'? Loved it. On 10/30/2013 03:15 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You posted to the wrong topic and made yourself look like a newbie. Maybe it's time to review the Netiquette: 1. When replying to a post, stay on topic. 2. Don't butt in to conversations with trollish comments. 3. Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the discussion. http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p68.html Start your own topic if you don't know anything about TM and the Tantras. On 10/30/2013 5:02 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Well Mr. Troll, I added to the topic that you don't know what you're talking about and should stick to subjects you do and gave an example. On 10/30/2013 02:00 PM, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: You should probably learn how to use a discussion group. You're not supposed to butt in to a conversation unless you have something to add to the topic. Start your own thread instead - this makes you look like a newbie who does nothing but watch TV. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: You should probably stick to cutting the cable posts. There you have some actual experience and knowledge. Tantra is beyond your pay grade. :-D Speaking of cable cutting except for CBS you can get most broadcast shows on Hulu. And CBS (as with most of the networks) posts episodes on the CBS website the day after showing on air. I played with different ways of watching those on my big screen. HDMI out on my Acer desktop lacks audio even though I have it set to HDMI audio. Seems it is a problem for some users bit I will probably use either my Acer tablet which has an HDMI port out or the NVidia Shield which has one too. Most of the networks put out a low grade HD stream when you expand to full screen. Difference between Hulu+ and network websites. The latter have more commercials though still just a few minutes overall compared to OTA. Hulu+ has often only one 15 second commercial during a break and most are just PSAs. For the Netflixers looking for a dark comedy horror film for Halloween may I recommend Night of the Living Dead: Re-Animation. This is indeed a sequel to the Re-Animator films including Jeffery Combs playing a role. There is even some funny political satire liberals will love in the film (can we say Sister Sarah). On 10/30/2013 08:23 AM, Richard Williams wrote: It would seem that the MMY got a little confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the Tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras mentioned in the Rig Veda. In order to establish the TM practice, the MMY should have been explaining how TM came to use the bija mantras. From what I've read, TM practice and the use of bijas comes from the tradition Sri Vidya, and not from the Rig Veda. The Sri Vidya is a tantric sect, purportedly founded by Shankaracharya. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was a member of the Sri Vidya - all the Saraswati sannyasins are headquartered at the Sringeri matha. Swami Krishnanda Saraswati: SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati, was from Sringeri. The primary symbol of the Sri Vidya is the Shri Yantra with the TM bijas inscribed thereon. There are fifteen bija mantras listed in the Soundarylahari, some of them are TM bija mantras, according to James Duffy. But, there are in fact sixteen bijas listed in the Sounda, the last one used for advanced practice. So, it's obvious that TM adherents should be looking to the Tantras, such as the 'Saundaryalahari' for the origins of TM, not the to the Vedas. The Rig Veda has little to say about yoga practices such as 'TM'. The Rig Veda is based on sacrificial rituals, dedicated to appeasing the celestial beings that control the forces of nature, such as earth, wind and fire, etc. The demi-gods, such as Krishna, Vasudeva, Balarama, and Ramchandra are deified heros of Indian mythology. There are no 'istadevatas' and their 'bija mantras' mentioned in the Rig Veda. The use of bijas came a long time after the
