[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-02 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ 
 wrote:
  
   A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi 
   programme is so effective that even a horse could become 
   enlightened if rounding with for six months.
  
  When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow 
  brochures
  at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
  Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
  enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my getting 
  enlightened
  out and telling friends how great it would be to be in Cosmic
  Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age 27, and finally
  Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was outlined in the
  brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then one final year 
  for UC.
  
  Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!
 
 The problem is not with the TMO but with you. Did you
 *save* your brochure and your initial receipt? You have 
 to present both at the doorway to enlightenment to 
 reach CC or any of the other states. No brochure and
 receipt, no guarantee. It's just like the guarantee 
 on a toaster.  :-)


+++ Maybe, already being enlightened, you wouldn't notice much change?
With so many different definitions how can you be sure?  N.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-02 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Anonff writes:
 Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!

Peter:
HA! Is that the expression of the final discrimination
into That?

Tom T:
It is my experience that when I hear someone who knows express it that
unique way that only they can, there is an involuntary HA! that pops
up and gets expressed. It is kind of like the universe making an
exclamtion point to verify the person who just said a very unique
thing that captures the essence of it all. I am always surprised when
it pops out. It does get you stared at in restaurants, even in FF.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-02 Thread WLeed3





Well said again Tom T. on your last 2 posts TOM ...Thanks 4 some AHHH 
HAAS! 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread anonyff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi programme
 is so effective that even a horse could become enlightened if rounding
 with for six months.


When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow brochures
at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my getting enlightened
out and telling friends how great it would be to be in Cosmic
Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age 27, and finally
Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was outlined in the
brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then one final year for UC.

Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread Peter


--- anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the
 TM-Sidhi programme
  is so effective that even a horse could become
 enlightened if rounding
  with for six months.
 
 
 When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these
 yellow brochures
 at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at
 123 E. 78th
 Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we
 would be
 enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my
 getting enlightened
 out and telling friends how great it would be to be
 in Cosmic
 Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age
 27, and finally
 Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was
 outlined in the
 brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then
 one final year for UC.
 
 Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!

HA! Is that the expression of the final discrimination
into That?



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 3/1/06 5:37:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I 
  first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow brochuresat the 
  combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78thStreet in 
  Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would beenlightened in 5-7 years. 
  I remember planning my getting enlightenedout and telling friends how 
  great it would be to be in CosmicConsciousness at age 26, God 
  Consciousness at age 27, and finallyUnity Consciousness at age 28. Thats 
  how it was outlined in thebrochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, 
  then one final year for UC.Here it is almost 37 years later, 
  HA!

I remember that brochure! Sure kept a lot of people meditating 
with enthusiasm for 7 years. Then the next thing was an age of enlightenment 
course and then a sidhi course and that would do the trick! Well then we needed 
Ayurveda and that would do it, then Yagyas and gemstones, then correct 
vastu and now a million dollars. These are all carrots dangled in front of 
your nose to keep you doing your program in hopes it's just around the corner 
and now you have too much invested in it to give up 
now.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/1/06 5:37:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 When I  first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow brochures
 at the  combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
 Street in  Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
 enlightened in 5-7 years.  I remember planning my getting enlightened
 out and telling friends how  great it would be to be in Cosmic
 Consciousness at age 26, God  Consciousness at age 27, and finally
 Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats  how it was outlined in the
 brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC,  then one final year
for UC.
 
 Here it is almost 37 years later,  HA!
 
 
 
 
 I remember that brochure! Sure kept a lot of people meditating  with 
 enthusiasm for 7 years. Then the next thing was an age of
enlightenment  course and 
 then a sidhi course and that would do the trick! Well then we needed
 Ayurveda 
 and that would do it, then Yagyas and gemstones, then correct  vastu
 and now a 
 million dollars. These are all carrots dangled in front of  your
nose to keep 
 you doing your program in hopes it's just around the corner  and now
you have 
 too much invested in it to give up  now.


+++ A former center chairman (TB) was in my shop last fall and I asked
him if one became enlightened after exhausting all his finances or
after sufficient abuse and he said that it might happen
simultaneously.   Maybe that would be an indicator?   N.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 3/1/06 5:37:42 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
  anonyff@ writes:
  
  When I  first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow 
brochures
  at the  combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
  Street in  Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
  enlightened in 5-7 years.  I remember planning my getting 
enlightened
  out and telling friends how  great it would be to be in Cosmic
  Consciousness at age 26, God  Consciousness at age 27, and 
finally
  Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats  how it was outlined in the
  brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC,  then one final 
year
 for UC.
  
  Here it is almost 37 years later,  HA!
  
  
  
  
  I remember that brochure! Sure kept a lot of people meditating  
with 
  enthusiasm for 7 years. Then the next thing was an age of
 enlightenment  course and 
  then a sidhi course and that would do the trick! Well then we 
needed
  Ayurveda 
  and that would do it, then Yagyas and gemstones, then correct  
vastu
  and now a 
  million dollars. These are all carrots dangled in front of  your
 nose to keep 
  you doing your program in hopes it's just around the corner  and 
now
 you have 
  too much invested in it to give up  now.
 
 
 +++ A former center chairman (TB) was in my shop last fall and I 
asked
 him if one became enlightened after exhausting all his finances or
 after sufficient abuse and he said that it might happen
 simultaneously.   Maybe that would be an indicator?   N.

Yes, exhaustion of all the ways that we devise to get enlightened is 
an excellent step...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread matrixmonitor
---Right (below - CC in 5 years, actually). That's how long it took
Jerry Jarvis to reach CC, so the idea and promotion gimmicks were
biased toward his experiences, as the SIMS leader.
 As to animals becoming Enlightened, there's a precedent in Ramana
Maharshi's tradition, since he helped Lakshmi the cow get Enlightened
at the time of the cow's death. Ramana also helped a crow, numerous
monkeys, peacocks, snakes, bees, etc...on the path; but it's uncertain
how far these creatures got toward the goal of Self-Realization.
 
  
  A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi programme
  is so effective that even a horse could become enlightened if rounding
  with for six months.
 
 
 When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow brochures
 at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
 Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
 enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my getting enlightened
 out and telling friends how great it would be to be in Cosmic
 Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age 27, and finally
 Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was outlined in the
 brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then one final year
for UC.
 
 Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote:
 
  
  A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi programme
  is so effective that even a horse could become enlightened if rounding
  with for six months.
 
 
 When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow brochures
 at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
 Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
 enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my getting enlightened
 out and telling friends how great it would be to be in Cosmic
 Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age 27, and finally
 Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was outlined in the
 brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then one final year
for UC.
 
 Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!


Was that the same yellow brochure that had info about the 6 advanced
techniques? I've spent some time looking for mine in the files...
It even mentioned techniques done in groups... 

JohnY





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 on 3/1/06 3:48 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi programme
  is so effective that even a horse could become enlightened if 
rounding
  with for six months.
 
 So a lot of horses took a lot of 6-month courses. How many 
enlightened as
 a result?


All of them. Seriously. All of them.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread ysoy10li
--
   
   A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the
  TM-Sidhi programme
   is so effective that even a horse could become
  enlightened if rounding
   with for six months.
  
  
  When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these
  yellow brochures
  at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at
  123 E. 78th
  Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we
  would be
  enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my
  getting enlightened
  out and telling friends how great it would be to be
  in Cosmic
  Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age
  27, and finally
  Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was
  outlined in the
  brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then
  one final year for UC.
  
  Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!
 
 HA! Is that the expression of the final discrimination
 into That?
 
 YES!! HERE IT IS !!
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 6 months to the big E - not life times

2006-03-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ 
wrote:
 
  A TM-teacher once said that MMY had said that the TM-Sidhi 
  programme is so effective that even a horse could become 
  enlightened if rounding with for six months.
 
 When I first learned TM back in 1969, they had these yellow 
 brochures
 at the combined SIMS/SRM center located, I think, at 123 E. 78th
 Street in Manhattan. In those brochures it said we would be
 enlightened in 5-7 years. I remember planning my getting 
 enlightened
 out and telling friends how great it would be to be in Cosmic
 Consciousness at age 26, God Consciousness at age 27, and finally
 Unity Consciousness at age 28. Thats how it was outlined in the
 brochure, CC in 5 years, another year for GC, then one final year 
 for UC.
 
 Here it is almost 37 years later, HA!

The problem is not with the TMO but with you. Did you
*save* your brochure and your initial receipt? You have 
to present both at the doorway to enlightenment to 
reach CC or any of the other states. No brochure and
receipt, no guarantee. It's just like the guarantee 
on a toaster.  :-)







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