[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Reasons Palin is More Qualified than Obama

2008-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd feel much better if people who make war decisions didn't
> have a fundamentalist religious view that certain wars must
> happen to fulfill biblical prophecy because I think that makes
> it much more like they will happen = the combo of mccain palin
> in particular seems a likely bet to escalate in the middle east.

Fair point. But there is a distinction between
"God told me to do this" and "I hope this is what
God wants me to do." Someone who says the latter
might well be willing to listen to advice from
others, whereas someone who says the former most
likely would not be.

(I'd vastly prefer a president who says neither.)

In any case, my main reason for posting this quote
was as a demonstration of how important it is to
get the story straight before drawing conclusions.
In Palin's case, so much of what we've heard--
including what has been posted here--has been
inaccurate.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Reasons Palin is More Qualified than Obama

2008-09-07 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > 8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama
> > > 
> > > by Seth Grahame-Smith
> > 
> > > Yes, Sarah admitted that she hadn't paid much attention to
> > > the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a
> > > "task from God."
> > 
> > This is one of many out-of-context quotes that's
> > being used against Palin.
> > 
> > What she actually said to the group she was
> > speaking to was that they should pray "that our
> > national leaders are sending them [her son's unit,
> > which is about to go to Iraq] out on a task that
> > is from God, that's what we have to make sure we
> > are praying for, that there is a plan, and that
> > plan is God's plan."
> > 
> > In other words, she was *not* asserting that she
> > or anyone else knows what "God's plan" is, contrary
> > to Grahame-Smith's demeaning interpretation.
> > 
> > In fact, she was saying precisely the opposite: that
> > we *don't* know, and all we can do is pray that what
> > we're doing is according to that plan. Or, in
> > secular terms: "Boy, I hope we're doing the right
> > thing here."
> >
> Her remark is not so innocent.  Her church believes we are in the End
> Times and specifically that for the end times to be fulfilled we need
> a big war in the middle east as a precursor for jesus christ coming
> back down. Utube shows her pastor talking about the end times and
> americans fleeing to alaska for safety and palin just nods.  She
> didn't just ask for God's blessing on the troops or something like
> that, she spoke of "the plan" and in her world view that means she was
> praying that the US plan is in tune with the biblical or God's plan
> for war in the middle east.  She's a good politician and knows not to
> be too specific in her public comments since becoming governor, but
> I'd feel much better if people who make war decisions didn't have a
> fundamentalist religious view that certain wars must happen to fulfill
> biblical prophecy because I think that makes it much more like they
> will happen = the combo of mccain palin in particular seems a likely
> bet to escalate in the middle east.
> 
> Moreover this woman sees God interfering in everything even pipelines
> -- "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies
> to get that gas line built, so pray for that."  That's real trouble
> when you have christian politicians thinking that God is for a
> pipeline because that means you know who (Satan) is against it and
> common sense as to the cost-benefits go out the window.
>


Well, well, well...Let's mess with another pastor disaster. Bet you
can catch Palin's pastor saying "God Damn America."  LOL.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Reasons Palin is More Qualified than Obama

2008-09-07 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > 8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama
> > 
> > by Seth Grahame-Smith
> 
> > Yes, Sarah admitted that she hadn't paid much attention to
> > the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a
> > "task from God."
> 
> This is one of many out-of-context quotes that's
> being used against Palin.
> 
> What she actually said to the group she was
> speaking to was that they should pray "that our
> national leaders are sending them [her son's unit,
> which is about to go to Iraq] out on a task that
> is from God, that's what we have to make sure we
> are praying for, that there is a plan, and that
> plan is God's plan."
> 
> In other words, she was *not* asserting that she
> or anyone else knows what "God's plan" is, contrary
> to Grahame-Smith's demeaning interpretation.
> 
> In fact, she was saying precisely the opposite: that
> we *don't* know, and all we can do is pray that what
> we're doing is according to that plan. Or, in
> secular terms: "Boy, I hope we're doing the right
> thing here."
>
Her remark is not so innocent.  Her church believes we are in the End
Times and specifically that for the end times to be fulfilled we need
a big war in the middle east as a precursor for jesus christ coming
back down. Utube shows her pastor talking about the end times and
americans fleeing to alaska for safety and palin just nods.  She
didn't just ask for God's blessing on the troops or something like
that, she spoke of "the plan" and in her world view that means she was
praying that the US plan is in tune with the biblical or God's plan
for war in the middle east.  She's a good politician and knows not to
be too specific in her public comments since becoming governor, but
I'd feel much better if people who make war decisions didn't have a
fundamentalist religious view that certain wars must happen to fulfill
biblical prophecy because I think that makes it much more like they
will happen = the combo of mccain palin in particular seems a likely
bet to escalate in the middle east.

Moreover this woman sees God interfering in everything even pipelines
-- "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies
to get that gas line built, so pray for that."  That's real trouble
when you have christian politicians thinking that God is for a
pipeline because that means you know who (Satan) is against it and
common sense as to the cost-benefits go out the window.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 8 Reasons Palin is More Qualified than Obama

2008-09-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 8 Reasons Sarah Palin is More Qualified than Barack Obama
> 
> by Seth Grahame-Smith

> Yes, Sarah admitted that she hadn't paid much attention to
> the war in Iraq, but she knew enough to rightly call it a
> "task from God."

This is one of many out-of-context quotes that's
being used against Palin.

What she actually said to the group she was
speaking to was that they should pray "that our
national leaders are sending them [her son's unit,
which is about to go to Iraq] out on a task that
is from God, that's what we have to make sure we
are praying for, that there is a plan, and that
plan is God's plan."

In other words, she was *not* asserting that she
or anyone else knows what "God's plan" is, contrary
to Grahame-Smith's demeaning interpretation.

In fact, she was saying precisely the opposite: that
we *don't* know, and all we can do is pray that what
we're doing is according to that plan. Or, in
secular terms: "Boy, I hope we're doing the right
thing here."