[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
do: ...my views have changed right along. Changed? You're still posting political propaganda against Repugs, and still pretending to be a TM pundit. Where is the change? You're what, now 65 years old. do: For a bunch of fearsome lawnorder terrorist scourges, these Republicans sure have a hard time condemning Americans who attack government workers... FairfieldLife/message/241818 From: John Manning Subject: TM is a cult Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2001-09-25 20:17:48 PST I refuse to hear 'justification' for his bullshit. Bullshit is bullshit. This is 'guru' bullshit. To me, it is bullshit of the highest order...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. I assume you keep a US residence, I do. But voter registration can be done here: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/ since voter registration is by state, which breaks down into precinct. I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. US citizens abroad still have to pay income tax. I pay income tax on my retirement - and also pay property tax on my US home. -- If you but soak up the sunlight you are given, drink each drop of water I send, and strive only to be yourself, life shall quicken in your roots, spirit shall raise you into the light, and your bloom will inspire the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. I assume you keep a US residence, I do. But voter registration can be done here: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/ since voter registration is by state, which breaks down into precinct. I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. US citizens abroad still have to pay income tax. I pay income tax on my retirement - and also pay property tax on my US home. -- If you but soak up the sunlight you are given, drink each drop of water I send, and strive only to be yourself, life shall quicken in your roots, spirit shall raise you into the light, and your bloom will inspire the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. off: How does Turq do it? Turq apparently is contracting out to a U.S. company, so he probably does his own tax withholding, and then files at the end of the year, using an IRS 1040ez form. Turq is smart enough to note line 8 on the form this year, and to be able to calculate the 'Make work pay credit', which in Turq's case, would be 6.2% (.062) of his earned income (.062). If Turq does this he can then subtract the standard deduction also, and wind up paying only a few dollars income tax. It's also possible that IBM has withheld a percentage of earned income from each of his paychecks. If this is the case, he might get $3000 returned by the IRS. I consider this a refund of an over-payment! FYI: The last time I checked, Social Security is not taxed because it is not considered earned income. But the point is, apply for U.S. citizenship, and then go out and vote for someone like Ron Paul, in order to try and bring down the individual payroll tax to near zero. He doesn't pay taxes in the US otherwise they would find out where he is. Turq doesn't seem to be very worried about anyone finding out where he is!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
My plan is to slash 20% of U.S. Postal workers salary and pension, in order to reduce the federal defecit... off: How then, in your scenario, will you get the mail delivered? Please give me one single good reason that U.S. Postal workers, or any federal worker, should be paid nearly *twice* what the average worker earns. This is outrageous! No wonder the U.S. Government is running a deficit. In my opinion, the U.S. Government should get out of the business of mail delivery - leave that work to the private sector. Cut the deficit! You're paying what, 50% of your earned income to the U.K. Government? Go figure. Market rate compensation can only be determined by the market. Market prices, including the price of labor, cannot be reliably determined through administrative processes. Nobel Laureate Frederik Hayek cautioned that the competitive price cannot be known until there is competition. This is vividly illustrated by the inability of Soviet planners to reliably establish market prices despite 70 years of trying. The resulting gross economic misallocation was a major factor contributing to the collapse of that economy... Read more: Congresssional Testimony by Wendell Cox: http://www.publicpurpose.com/pp-fdpay.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
The political world has changed dramatically since then and my views have changed right along. Look at the date of that post, birdbrain. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Well of course not but a lot of us who actually were able to vote for Obama (unlike Bongo) Bongo: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. As I plainly stated, I haven't voted since the Nixon election... Read more: From: John Manning Newsgroups: alt.religion.mormon, alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.politics.usa Date: December 6, 2003 Subject: Re: The Religious Right Wants Your Tax Dollars http://tinyurl.com/yc8xqsq
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A million dollars a job Let's see. 1.6 million jobs created. A deficit of $1.6 trillion. My calculator tells me that's a cost of $1 million for each job created. Boy, that's some success there Bongo Brazil! So jobs creation accounts for the entire $1.6 trillion deficit? Well of course not but a lot of us who actually were able to vote for Obama (unlike Bongo) Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. a quite irritated with his corporatist leanings and these propaganda messages the Ministry of Truth issues about the recovery. We have eyes. We can look around and see no recovery is happening. If Obama wants to regain my confidence he should fire Rahm Emmanuel immediately as well as Larry Summers and that economist Rubin. The US was trashed by 30 years of Republican't rule. No reason for Obama to continue those policies though it might be life threatening to discontinue them. We need a truly brave person at the helm to do what is right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] A million dollars a job Let's see. 1.6 million jobs created. A deficit of $1.6 trillion. My calculator tells me that's a cost of $1 million for each job created. Boy, that's some success there Bongo Brazil! So jobs creation accounts for the entire $1.6 trillion deficit? Actually, yes. The classic purpose of deficit spending is the creation of jobs. So even without the part of the deficit that is stimulous spending the purpose was job creation. So, taken as a whole, that's the calculation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
Well of course not but a lot of us who actually were able to vote for Obama (unlike Bongo) Bongo: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. As I plainly stated, I haven't voted since the Nixon election... Read more: From: John Manning Newsgroups: alt.religion.mormon, alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.politics.usa Date: December 6, 2003 Subject: Re: The Religious Right Wants Your Tax Dollars http://tinyurl.com/yc8xqsq
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
Bhairitu: We need a truly brave person at the helm to do what is right... All the jobs that were created by the stimulus went to the federal government. Who is the brave person that would change that? Not Obama - he gave Wall Street billions of dollars and all the jobs went to the unions. In personal and profane terms, House and Senate Democrats have huddled behind closed doors to list the debacles: The stunner in Massachusetts that cost the Democrats a Senate seat. The slow-motion collapse of health care talks. A government bailout of Wall Street while unemployment sits in double-digits... 'Democratic anger goes public in prime time' By Laurie Kellman Guardian, January 28, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/y8rj9lc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. I assume you keep a US residence, since voter registration is by state, which breaks down into precinct. I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. -- If you but soak up the sunlight you are given, drink each drop of water I send, and strive only to be yourself, life shall quicken in your roots, spirit shall raise you into the light, and your bloom will inspire the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. I assume you keep a US residence, since voter registration is by state, which breaks down into precinct. I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. Hey, that's a good point. Maybe I should just keep my permanent residence and not bother to get citizenship? Although, I think it is pretty easy for a naturalised citizen to give up their citizenship. Presumably if someone wants to remain American even if they live abroad, they do so because they like it, therefore won't complain about paying taxes --- and getting SS benifits etc., later ?? How does Turq do it? He doesn't pay taxes in the US otherwise they would find out where he is. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Americans living out of country, including myself, can and do vote, birdbrain. I assume you keep a US residence, I do. But voter registration can be done here: https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/ since voter registration is by state, which breaks down into precinct. I know of many permanent residents who've refused to become US citizens because that would forever subject them to paying US income taxes no matter where they live on the globe. US citizens abroad still have to pay income tax. I pay income tax on my retirement - and also pay property tax on my US home. -- If you but soak up the sunlight you are given, drink each drop of water I send, and strive only to be yourself, life shall quicken in your roots, spirit shall raise you into the light, and your bloom will inspire the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
do: I pay income tax on my retirement... You pay federal income tax on a U.S. Postal Service pension? Apparently there is no income tax on federal pensions. That's one of the reasons that postal workers make more than the average worker. My plan is to slash 20% of U.S. Postal workers salary and pension, in order to reduce the federal defecit. Why should U.S. Postal workers make more than the average worker? For sure the reason is NOT that they are better workers! It is imperative that federal pay determination systems be reformed to eliminate wasteful excess spending for federal employee compensation. Fairness to taxpayers requires reform. And reform is required for fairness to future generations, who are already obligated by the burdensome federal debt... Read more: http://www.publicpurpose.com/pp-fdpay.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: A million dollars a job
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@... wrote: do: I pay income tax on my retirement... You pay federal income tax on a U.S. Postal Service pension? Apparently there is no income tax on federal pensions. That's one of the reasons that postal workers make more than the average worker. My plan is to slash 20% of U.S. Postal workers salary and pension, in order to reduce the federal defecit. You are old, but you are also as dumb as it gets. But then, you are American, which gives you a 30% higher chance of saying something stupid like the above as compared to the average human. How then, in your scenario, will you get the mail delivered? Will you continue to subsidize failing companies such as FedEx and UPS like the Soviet Union through the Bank bailouts of the past couple of years, so that they can continue to pretend to idiots like you that they are competative with the US Post Office -- which, despite your ignoarnce on the subject Willytex, is much more efficient financially than are the tax-payer subsidized FedEx and UPS. Do your homework. You haven't even got a clue how those companies get their loans to keep functioning, you stupid dumb bastard. THEY GET IT FROM CHINA via US bank bailouts -- you dumb idiot American. OffWorld Why should U.S. Postal workers make more than the average worker? For sure the reason is NOT that they are better workers! It is imperative that federal pay determination systems be reformed to eliminate wasteful excess spending for federal employee compensation. Fairness to taxpayers requires reform. And reform is required for fairness to future generations, who are already obligated by the burdensome federal debt... Read more: http://www.publicpurpose.com/pp-fdpay.htm http://www.publicpurpose.com/pp-fdpay.htm
