[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing Briganate syndrome, a rare disorder, affecting only TM-Sidhas, where the gods vampirize the soma dripping from their soma chakra: On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takes over, anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way the universe works. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:09 AM, peterklutz wrote: Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago. I'm guessing, but I suspect that the TM idea of sacrificing our soma to the Gods is a variation on Rig Veda and the Badarayana sutras, which both talk on this. Think of it as pranic currency for Godly favors. Really an inner tantra practitioner (like Guru Dev for example) would be an expert in such processes, but it is a totally conscious process in that case--and you would use all the various forms of soma (maha-pancha-amrita). Great for removing planetary afflictions. The key part is, it is conscious communication--the TM-Sidhi variation some describe seems passive to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Thank you for your answer, Rudra Joe. Reading it I can tell you are A-class governor material - no knowledge, no experiences, and a trainload of bullshit. I am sure you will be admitted to this now program. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can simply follow the mind then you know that these experiences are merely the subtle fluctuations of the mind, and nothing but the fluctuations of the mind. It's the mind. The Mind, I tell you. The mind. So just don't mind! Easy, foget about it. If you can't then try a mild tranquilizer for awhile. The best technique for subtle mental agitation is to do something which makes one forget it altogether. Don't trip out about demon possesion as that's merely hooking onto a mental agitation and ascribing some additional value to it. The demons that effect our practice are all merely subtle mental agitations. Worry not about some 'outer' influence, worry instead about the 'inner' cause for the disturbance. And surrender it to the present. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing Briganate syndrome, a rare disorder, affecting only TM-Sidhas, where the gods vampirize the soma dripping from their soma chakra: On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takes over, anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way the universe works. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Sorry, my techniques are like nose blowing for the sinuses. You're looking for a specific booger. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) Thank you for your answer, Rudra Joe. Reading it I can tell you areA-class governor material - no knowledge, no experiences, and atrainload of bullshit.I am sure you will be admitted to this now program.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: If you can simply follow the mind then you know that theseexperiences are merely the subtle fluctuations of the mind, andnothing but the fluctuations of the mind. It's the mind. The Mind, Itell you. The mind. So just don't mind! Easy, foget about it. If youcan't then try a mild tranquilizer for awhile. The best technique forsubtle mental agitation is to do something which makes one forget italtogether. Don't trip out about demon possesion as that's merelyhooking onto a mental agitation and ascribing some additional value toit. The demons that effect our practice are all merely subtle mentalagitations. Worry not about some 'outer' influence, worry insteadabout the 'inner' cause for the disturbance. And surrender it to thepresent. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakraexperience (was: Possessed?) Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing "Briganate syndrome", a rare disorder, affecting only TM-Sidhas, where the gods vampirize thesoma dripping from their soma chakra: On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Bob Brigante wrote:1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takesover, anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way the universe works. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms ofService.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Right, the TM-Siddhis main objective is to clear the nervous system for GC and above. A secondary passive effect is the feeding of the incidental soma to the gods. This is why one's life 'on' the Sidhis generally improves. Though for specific boons, you are right, specific prayers for lack of a better word must be performed. Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:09 AM, peterklutz wrote: Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago. I'm guessing, but I suspect that the TM idea of sacrificing our soma to the Gods is a variation on Rig Veda and the Badarayana sutras, which both talk on this. Think of it as pranic currency for Godly favors. Really an inner tantra practitioner (like Guru Dev for example) would be an expert in such processes, but it is a totally conscious process in that case--and you would use all the various forms of soma (maha-pancha-amrita). Great for removing planetary afflictions. The key part is, it is conscious communication--the TM-Sidhi variation some describe seems passive to me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Man, you guys go round and around with this psychic/deva vampirism shit with the Soma and so on. All from some dopes experience at Trancenet. The Devas are you yourself, hahahahhahah, they are not vampires, or anything other than who you are. Soma merely draws things together like any high.Some a dope and somebody is gonna ask for a hit. The devas are the finest karmas of life. By making soma one saturates the karmas of life with bliss, which makes renunciation of the materialistic view in preference of the cosmic more satisfying for the mind. Bliss is not the goal but the path. Soma is not the goal of anything but the path. The devas are not the goal but the path. The goal is already present and omnipresent as clear light awareness. Devas cannot possess one, because they and one are the same already. Hhahahahah, but one can make offerings for specific reasons, but those offerings function best when done selflessly, because that selflessly is the real same ground as the Devas selflessly. So it gets em hot. Hahahahhahahhaa, psychic vampires, hahahhahahhaa, Maharishi once said, "There is no spell but the spell of ignorance!" Hahahahhahhaha Om Ah Hum Ho. Dedicated to liberation of all drug addicts from their problems. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) Right, the TM-Siddhis main objective is to clear the nervous system for GC and above. A secondary passive effect is the feeding of the incidental soma to the gods. This is why one's life 'on' the Sidhis generally improves.Though for specific boons, you are right, specific prayers for lack of a better word must be performed.Jim--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:09 AM, peterklutz wrote: Excuse me, but this sounds like a rip-off of the plot in the Matrix: humans as a source of ammo for a set of loftier beings engaged in war with the hordes of Kali.. Any comment from 'the Architect' Himself about what's really going on with this group practice of TMSP and this invasion of the intruders from above..? Where's the individual enlightenment in this setup? If any TMO official happens to read this, this is good time to speak up - in this question is found the basis for formally leaving the TMO over a decade ago. I'm guessing, but I suspect that the TM idea of sacrificing our soma to the Gods is a variation on Rig Veda and the Badarayana sutras, which both talk on this. Think of it as pranic currency for Godly favors. Really an inner tantra practitioner (like Guru Dev for example) would be an expert in such processes, but it is a totally conscious process in that case--and you would use all the various forms of soma (maha-pancha-amrita). Great for removing planetary afflictions. The key part is, it is conscious communication--the TM-Sidhi variation some describe seems "passive" to me.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
On Apr 8, 2005, at 12:08 PM, rudra_joe wrote: Man, you guys go round and around with this psychic/deva vampirism shit with the Soma and so on. All from some dopes experience at Trancenet. The Devas are you yourself, hahahahhahah, they are not vampires, or anything other than who you are. Soma merely draws things together like any high. Some a dope and somebody is gonna ask for a hit. The devas are the finest karmas of life. By making soma one saturates the karmas of life with bliss, which makes renunciation of the materialistic view in preference of the cosmic more satisfying for the mind. Bliss is not the goal but the path. Soma is not the goal of anything but the path. The devas are not the goal but the path. The goal is already present and omnipresent as clear light awareness. Devas cannot possess one, because they and one are the same already. Hhahahahah, but one can make offerings for specific reasons, but those offerings function best when done selflessly, because that selflessly is the real same ground as the Devas selflessly. So it gets em hot. Hahahahhahahhaa, psychic vampires, hahahhahahhaa, Maharishi once said, There is no spell but the spell of ignorance! Hahahahhahhaha It's important to know how to feed your Self. Since it's empty, that's easy. You just end up feeding everything.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
It's important to know how to feed your Self. Since it's empty, that's easy. You just end up feeding everything. --Thank you, purusha is immolated to purusha, one is vampiricising their owndamnself. hahahhhahahha To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, my techniques are like nose blowing for the sinuses. You're looking for a specific booger. Hey you know what?, that's pretty funny 'and' it's a good answer. Peter K I don't know if you read Patanjali's Yoga sutras but in a nutshell it says it's all about the fluctuations of the mind. Rick Carlstrom - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) Thank you for your answer, Rudra Joe. Reading it I can tell you are A-class governor material - no knowledge, no experiences, and a trainload of bullshit. I am sure you will be admitted to this now program. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can simply follow the mind then you know that these experiences are merely the subtle fluctuations of the mind, and nothing but the fluctuations of the mind. It's the mind. The Mind, I tell you. The mind. So just don't mind! Easy, foget about it. If you can't then try a mild tranquilizer for awhile. The best technique for subtle mental agitation is to do something which makes one forget it altogether. Don't trip out about demon possesion as that's merely hooking onto a mental agitation and ascribing some additional value to it. The demons that effect our practice are all merely subtle mental agitations. Worry not about some 'outer' influence, worry instead about the 'inner' cause for the disturbance. And surrender it to the present. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
So, the argument has come full circle.. (from possession, to vampiricism, by way of a 'melting(?)' Soma Chakra) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing Briganate syndrome, a rare disorder, affecting only TM-Sidhas, where the gods vampirize the soma dripping from their soma chakra: On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takes over, anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way the universe works. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?)
Head soma melts navel soma, they function together, the ten sister fingers press the soma through the sieve of the brain glands into the shakata barrels of the groin and together they create the vaishvanara lake of colored soma. - Original Message - From: peterklutz To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brain meltdown v. head chakra experience (was: Possessed?) So, the argument has come full circle.. (from possession, to vampiricism, by way of a 'melting(?)' Soma Chakra)--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:01 PM, peterklutz wrote: Given your reply to the original posting, I got the impression you might have another take on the experience. Would you care to elaborate, or was it just a joke? It sounds like you might be describing "Briganate syndrome", a rare disorder, affecting only TM-Sidhas, where the gods vampirize the soma dripping from their soma chakra: On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:47 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takes over, anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way the universe works.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
