[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
Rick Archer writes: Snipped So you either have to compromise your principles, or lie, which should compromise your principles, which I suppose is an appropriate requirement from an organization that doesn¹t have any principles. Tom T: Patanjali (Alistair Shearer version) Chapter 2 vs 36: When we are firmly established in truthfulness, action accomplishes its desired end. Chapter 2 vs 37: When we are firmly established in integrity, all riches present themselves freely. Now are there any questions as to whats wrong with this organization? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: BTW, the people in charge of the TM organization are quite nice compared to many, if not most, people in similar lines of work in other organizations. I am not sure how you define nice (or how much you know about the TMO), but my yellow bliss globules started to turn green when I read your quote.. Well, let's take an extreme example: how many hundreds of millions of dollars did the international head of the Red Cross embezzle? How many underage kids have been molested by Catholic priests while the Church covered it up? mHow many rapes of American military women are unreported because the higher-ups don't wantto deal? You get the idea. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: BTW, the people in charge of the TM organization are quite nice compared to many, if not most, people in similar lines of work in other organizations. If you honestly believe this, I think you need to get out more, and actually work with some of these organizations. I am not sure how you define nice (or how much you know about the TMO), but my yellow bliss globules started to turn green when I read your quote.. It was just unstressing. :-) Well, let's take an extreme example: how many hundreds of millions of dollars did the international head of the Red Cross embezzle? How many underage kids have been molested by Catholic priests while the Church covered it up? mHow many rapes of American military women are unreported because the higher-ups don't want to deal? You get the idea. Yes, I think I finally do. Things have gotten so bad with regard to the TMO that the only argument you can fall back on is, We're no worse than those other guys are. But that's at least a more honest stance than the one espoused by real True Believers. Might I remind you of what the TMO is *selling* as its self-description? To quote www.tm.org, clearer thinking, better health, fulfilling relationships and a peaceful world. Do phrases like heaven on Earth sound familiar? TM is touted as the single most effective meditation technique available to gain deep relaxation, eliminate stress, promote good health, increase creativity and intelligence, and attain inner happiness and fulfillment. Pretty tough standards to live up to. Pretty amazing levels of delusion and self-deception on the part of those that claim that they've been achieved in the TM organization. Thank you at least for being honest enough to admit that the TMO is no better or worse than any other organization out there that claims to have humanitarian goals. But you're wrong about that. Some of them actually *do* walk their talk. You'll probably come back with, Oh yeah...which ones? I think that level of cynicism in a -- what is it? 30-year meditator -- speaks more loudly than anything I could say in reply. You have been taught to have low standards, and you do. Other spiritual seekers in other traditions have been more fortunate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 7/30/06 12:06 PM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I hate to tell Science this, but most of us are long since past the stage where empty flattery can get turned into $$. What a pathetic way to encourage participation--by hitting up your friends--still. Don't the course leaders who encourage this ever think of *new* ways to pick people's pockets? I thought there were scholarships. Sadly, nothing ever seems to change with them. Oh, and you're welcome. :) Sal I think Science's thing was a parody. Whew! Thanks, Rick! Guess I need to get my humor meter checked or something. I kind of wondered, as he has been a longtime participant on here and, one would think, would know better. But actually it turns out it's *me* who should know better. :) I've gotten several calls and emails from friends - one from someone I don't even know encouraging me to apply for a dome badge. They say they're accepting all kinds of people. Problem with me is, I wouldn't tolerate one moment of inquisition, unless my inquisitors are willing to submit to one as well. Well said. Hey, I think you ought to give that last idea a try--questioning the inquisitors! Now *that* is something that I would pay good $$ to hear about. All kinds of people? Hmmm, kind of has the ring of pseudo- tolerance or something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss on 7/30/06 3:17 PM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. And if I had to lie to get in, as many are doing, I would feel as Groucho Marx did: 'Personally I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member' __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/30/06 3:17 PM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. And if I had to lie to get in, as many are doing, I would feel as Groucho Marx did: 'Personally I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member' It is an odd thing: the idea is to have everyone practicing the same technique in order to get a synergistic effect. It's very obvious from the published research that, no matter which technique you feel is better, that TM has radically different effects than other techniques. Whiy would you feel a desire to participate in a group practice of something you didn't think was worth doing? Are people who used to believe that TM is best and who now believe that my-way- other-than-TM is best, under the impression that there will be a synergistic effect from them doing something other than TM at the same time most people are doing TM? The reasoning escapes me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
If there is a unified field / absolute out there and all the Sages, Saints, Sinners yadda yaddas teach techniques that open our consciousness who's to say that there are distinctions that would undermine the shakti that's circulating? Just bring your asses into the dome do your thing. I doubt that the universe is preferential to one viechle for ecstacy over another. It'll test the principle. Fight about who's righteous after everyone shows up and experiences whatever there is to experience. It's the Woodstock of courses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 7/30/06 3:17 PM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. And if I had to lie to get in, as many are doing, I would feel as Groucho Marx did: 'Personally I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member' It is an odd thing: the idea is to have everyone practicing the same technique in order to get a synergistic effect. It's very obvious from the published research that, no matter which technique you feel is better, that TM has radically different effects than other techniques. Whiy would you feel a desire to participate in a group practice of something you didn't think was worth doing? Are people who used to believe that TM is best and who now believe that my-way- other-than-TM is best, under the impression that there will be a synergistic effect from them doing something other than TM at the same time most people are doing TM? The reasoning escapes me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blissbunn1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a unified field / absolute out there OH! So THATS where it is. Out there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss on 7/30/06 5:56 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is an odd thing: the idea is to have everyone practicing the same technique in order to get a synergistic effect. It's very obvious from the published research that, no matter which technique you feel is better, that TM has radically different effects than other techniques. Whiy would you feel a desire to participate in a group practice of something you didn't think was worth doing? Are people who used to believe that TM is best and who now believe that my-way- other-than-TM is best, under the impression that there will be a synergistic effect from them doing something other than TM at the same time most people are doing TM? The reasoning escapes me. TM researchers say TM is best. If the quality of the lives and personalities of TM leaders and many who have been practicing for decades is an indication of the efficacy of he technique, then give me Brand X. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss on 7/30/06 7:40 PM, blissbunn1 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a unified field / absolute out there and all the Sages, Saints, Sinners yadda yaddas teach techniques that open our consciousness who's to say that there are distinctions that would undermine the shakti that's circulating? Just bring your asses into the dome do your thing. I doubt that the universe is preferential to one viechle for ecstacy over another. It'll test the principle. Fight about who's righteous after everyone shows up and experiences whatever there is to experience. It's the Woodstock of courses. But even if youre doing MMYs program to a T, and are only a Citizen Sidha, you wont be allowed in if they know you visit saints, etc. A friend of mine who fits that description was asked to write a letter promising he wouldnt see Amma any more, etc. So you either have to compromise your principles, or lie, which should compromise your principles, which I suppose is an appropriate requirement from an organization that doesnt have any principles. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blissbunn1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is a unified field / absolute out there and all the Sages, Saints, Sinners yadda yaddas teach techniques that open our consciousness who's to say that there are distinctions that would undermine the shakti that's circulating? Just bring your asses into the dome do your thing. I doubt that the universe is preferential to one viechle for ecstacy over another. It's an interesting if that you mention. DO all the sages teach valid things? It'll test the principle. Fight about who's righteous after everyone shows up and experiences whatever there is to experience. It's the Woodstock of courses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 7/30/06 3:17 PM, scienceofabundance at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Sal:) I thought I had included such a variety of BS that readers would see it as a parody. I guess it is a measure of what we have all seen that your first reaction was to take it seriously. Like Rick, there is a snowball's chance in hell that I would be accepted into the course unless I lied about myself. And if I had to lie to get in, as many are doing, I would feel as Groucho Marx did: 'Personally I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me as a member' It is an odd thing: the idea is to have everyone practicing the same technique in order to get a synergistic effect. It's very obvious from the published research that, no matter which technique you feel is better, that TM has radically different effects than other techniques. Whiy would you feel a desire to participate in a group practice of something you didn't think was worth doing? Are people who used to believe that TM is best and who now believe that my-way- other-than-TM is best, under the impression that there will be a synergistic effect from them doing something other than TM at the same time most people are doing TM? The reasoning escapes me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/30/06 5:56 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is an odd thing: the idea is to have everyone practicing the same technique in order to get a synergistic effect. It's very obvious from the published research that, no matter which technique you feel is better, that TM has radically different effects than other techniques. Whiy would you feel a desire to participate in a group practice of something you didn't think was worth doing? Are people who used to believe that TM is best and who now believe that my-way- other-than-TM is best, under the impression that there will be a synergistic effect from them doing something other than TM at the same time most people are doing TM? The reasoning escapes me. TM researchers say TM is best. If the quality of the lives and personalities of TM leaders and many who have been practicing for decades is an indication of the efficacy of he technique, then give me Brand X. I didn't say anything about anything save synergistic effects. BTW, the people in charge of the TM organization are quite nice compared to many, if not most, people in similar lines of work in other organizations. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Burbling Globules of Bliss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, the people in charge of the TM organization are quite nice compared to many, if not most, people in similar lines of work in other organizations. I am not sure how you define nice (or how much you know about the TMO), but my yellow bliss globules started to turn green when I read your quote.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
