[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
I think, Papua New-Guinea has a similar arrangement with Australia.??peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:58:26 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] Suzerain 1. A nation that controls another nation in international affairsbut allows it domestic sovereignty. 2. A feudal lord to whom fealty was due. Draw your own conclusions..--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > I only wrote, what had happened. There is a subtle differencebetween the two words.> > jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:42:30 -> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing withTerrorism[Shemp]> > "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else... > > > > > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > > Chinese invasion of Tibet.?> > > > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet."> > > > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the > message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!"> > > > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet. > > > I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"?> > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Suzerain 1. A nation that controls another nation in international affairs but allows it domestic sovereignty. 2. A feudal lord to whom fealty was due. Draw your own conclusions.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I only wrote, what had happened. There is a subtle difference between the two words. > > > jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:42:30 -0000 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] > > > "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else... > > > > > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > > Chinese invasion of Tibet.? > > > > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet." > > > > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the > message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!" > > > > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet. > > > I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"? > > > > > > > - > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
I only wrote, what had happened. There is a subtle difference between the two words. jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:42:30 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else...> > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > Chinese invasion of Tibet.?> > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet."> > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!"> > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet.> I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"?> How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
sparaig wrote: > Ah, so you're using his religious status as a reason to > criticize him for his secular actions, even though you > apparently don't believe that his religious status is valid... > The Dalai Lama is the secular head of the Tibetan Government - the Pachen Lama is the head of the religious tradition. However, the Karmapa, Düsum Khyenpa, was the first reincarnated lama in Tibet, the first tulku. Therefore, the Gyalwa Karmapa is the real spiritual head of the Tibetan tradition. 'The Great Game: The Struggle for Empire in Central Asia' by Peter Hopkirk Kodansha Globe, 1994 'Trespassers on the Roof of the World: The Secret Exploration of Tibet' by Peter Hopkirk Kodansha Globe, 1995 Other titles of interest: 'A Cultural History of Tibet' by David L. Snellgrove, Hugh E. Richardson Orchid Press, 2004 'Prisoners of Shangri-La: Tibetan Buddhism and the West' by Donald S. Lopez Jr. University Of Chicago Press, 1999 'The Search for the Panchen Lama' by Isabel Hilton W. W. Norton, 2001 'Hostage of Beijing: The Abduction of the Panchen Lama' by Gilles Van Grasdorff, Gilles Van Grasdorff Element Books, 1999 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > wrote: > > > > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the > Chinese invasion of Tibet.? > > > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade > Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, > sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that > he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's > Suzerainity over Tibet." > > > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. > He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's > Sovereignty over Tibet.!" > > > > The next day China marched into Tibet. > > > I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"? > "Suzerainty" is defined as 'overlordship', very similar in meaning as sovereignty in this context. So this great journalistic coup of Mr. Spock's (aka The Dude) is more red herring than anything else... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the Chinese invasion of Tibet.? > > There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet." > > The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!" > > The next day China marched into Tibet. I don't get it...what's "suzerainity"? > > > ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:17:57 - > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people because: > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- he would have known the coming disaster that living next to communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming his people. > > 2) he actually played footsies with Mao and actually thought that communism had parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and that they were to some degree compatible and that he could live with the communists. Big fat fucking mistake. > > 3) his misinterpretation and bastardization of the concept of non- violence directly led to his inability to adequately protect his people, their culture and their religion. > > 4) If he truly believed in non-violence as he claimed he did, why in heaven's name did he in fact attempt to garner the favor of America when the impending doom of Chinese Communist horror was imminent? Clue: the USA had the atomic bomb. Now, that's not very non-violent of him, is it? > > > > Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. > > > > The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, > was "To Teach India a Lesson." > > > > In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North- East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. > > > > In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. > > > > Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. > > > > But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. > > > > Relations between India and America soured in 1971. > > > > > > > - > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Have you heard of the great Indian Goof-Up, prior to the Chinese invasion of Tibet.? There was a lot of Speculation that China might invade Tibet. So the Indian Strategists want didn't want to offend China, sent a Cleverly worded message to the indian Ambasador stating that he should convey the mesage to China, "India recognises China's Suzerainity over Tibet." The Indian Ambasador in Beijing misunderstood the message. He made a public announcement that, "India recognises China's Sovereignty over Tibet.!" The next day China marched into Tibet. ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:17:57 -0000Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp] I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people because:1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- he would have known the coming disaster that living next to communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming his people.2) he actually played footsies with Mao and actually thought that communism had parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and that they were to some degree compatible and that he could live with the communists. Big fat fucking mistake.3) his misinterpretation and bastardization of the concept of non-violence directly led to his inability to adequately protect his people, their culture and their religion.4) If he truly believed in non-violence as he claimed he did, why in heaven's name did he in fact attempt to garner the favor of America when the impending doom of Chinese Communist horror was imminent? Clue: the USA had the atomic bomb. Now, that's not very non-violent of him, is it?> > Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. > > The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was "To Teach India a Lesson."> > In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North-East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously.> > In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war.> > Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force.> > But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job.> > Relations between India and America soured in 1971.> Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 4/3/06 4:17 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I > > believe, is > > > > contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people > > > > because: > > > > > > > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent > > history -- > > > > he would have known the coming disaster that living next to > > > > communists would mean and he could have taken or at least > > attempted > > > > to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America > > > > (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or > > arming > > > > his people. > > > > > > How old was he when China invaded? Wasn't he just a boy? > > > > > > I think he was in his teens. > > > > But his age was irrelevant because, apparently, in Tibet there is > no > > minimum age of consent for being the incarnation of the Lord of the > > Universe. > > Ah, so you're using his religious status as a reason to criticize him > for his secular actions, even though you apparently don't believe > that his religious status is valid... > > Er, yeah... > No, I was making a comment on the fact that he was chosen as a child to be the Lord of the Universe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 4/3/06 4:17 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I > believe, is > > > contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people > > > because: > > > > > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent > history -- > > > he would have known the coming disaster that living next to > > > communists would mean and he could have taken or at least > attempted > > > to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America > > > (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or > arming > > > his people. > > > > How old was he when China invaded? Wasn't he just a boy? > > > I think he was in his teens. > > But his age was irrelevant because, apparently, in Tibet there is no > minimum age of consent for being the incarnation of the Lord of the > Universe. Ah, so you're using his religious status as a reason to criticize him for his secular actions, even though you apparently don't believe that his religious status is valid... Er, yeah... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/3/06 4:17 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? > > > > > > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is > > contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people > > because: > > > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history - - > > he would have known the coming disaster that living next to > > communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted > > to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America > > (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming > > his people. > > How old was he when China invaded? Wasn't he just a boy? > He's 70 now, according to one article referenced here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/3/06 4:17 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? > > > > > > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is > > contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people > > because: > > > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- > > he would have known the coming disaster that living next to > > communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted > > to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America > > (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming > > his people. > > How old was he when China invaded? Wasn't he just a boy? I think he was in his teens. But his age was irrelevant because, apparently, in Tibet there is no minimum age of consent for being the incarnation of the Lord of the Universe. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
on 4/3/06 4:17 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> >> Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? > > > > I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is > contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people > because: > > 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- > he would have known the coming disaster that living next to > communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted > to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America > (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming > his people. How old was he when China invaded? Wasn't he just a boy? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? I don't mean to "blame the victim" but the Dalai Lama, I believe, is contributorily negligent in the holocaust that befell his people because: 1) had he known his history -- and most certainly recent history -- he would have known the coming disaster that living next to communists would mean and he could have taken or at least attempted to take remedial action...such as: allying himself with America (which he tried to do at the last minute but was too late) or arming his people. 2) he actually played footsies with Mao and actually thought that communism had parallels with Tibetan Buddhism and that they were to some degree compatible and that he could live with the communists. Big fat fucking mistake. 3) his misinterpretation and bastardization of the concept of non- violence directly led to his inability to adequately protect his people, their culture and their religion. 4) If he truly believed in non-violence as he claimed he did, why in heaven's name did he in fact attempt to garner the favor of America when the impending doom of Chinese Communist horror was imminent? Clue: the USA had the atomic bomb. Now, that's not very non-violent of him, is it? > > Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. > > The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was "To Teach India a Lesson." > > In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North-East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. > > In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. > > Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo- Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. > > But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. > > Relations between India and America soured in 1971. > > > ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:50:20 - > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc. > > >...yet the Dalai Lama's own negligence contributed to 1.5 million of his own people being murdered by the Chinese communists and the millions that were left had their religion, culture and way of life decimated. > > > > > - > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was "To Teach India a Lesson." In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North-East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. Relations between India and America soured in 1971. ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:50:20 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc. ...yet the Dalai Lama's own negligence contributed to 1.5 million of his own people being murdered by the Chinese communists and the millions that were left had their religion, culture and way of life decimated. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
