[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
Elections really work well don't they? Just like the 2000 and 2004 elections. Elections tend to be part of the illusion of a democracy. 2008 went pretty well. If it had gone to McCain and Palin then the repubs would have gotten the idea that they could get away with anything, that elections didn't matter and they had a right to rule. Once a group of people get that idea only trouble follows. The simple fact that there is a way to boot out bad rulers, even if it is imperfect, keeps rulers on notice not to get ideas about divinely ordained leaders. It's sad that the TMO doesn't have a similar way to deal with bad leaders.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so once in a while to reboot the country. That's what elections are for. They're a way to have a revolution without actually killing people. The point of elections is not so much that they reflect the will of the people but that they put leaders on notice that they shouldn't think they have a right to rule.
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guyfawkes91 wrote: Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so once in a while to reboot the country. That's what elections are for. They're a way to have a revolution without actually killing people. The point of elections is not so much that they reflect the will of the people but that they put leaders on notice that they shouldn't think they have a right to rule. Elections really work well don't they? Just like the 2000 and 2004 elections. Elections tend to be part of the illusion of a democracy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: guyfawkes91 wrote: Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so once in a while to reboot the country. That's what elections are for. They're a way to have a revolution without actually killing people. The point of elections is not so much that they reflect the will of the people but that they put leaders on notice that they shouldn't think they have a right to rule. Elections really work well don't they? Just like the 2000 and 2004 elections. Elections tend to be part of the illusion of a democracy. Elections seem to have been entertainment to keep people from noticing what is really going on behind the scenes where the major decisions are made,a lot of which are not in the best interest of the majority.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Here's an interesting tidbit about Chuck Norris, for those who care. Way back in the Sixties, in my first no-contact karate contest, I lost the luck of the draw and wound up fighting Chuck Norris. I was a mere brown belt and he was on his way to his first World Championship; he whupped my ass good. But in that contest I caught a glimpse of what would later turn into his secret ultra-conserva- tism and what underlies it. One of his students in that contest was, in my opinion, better than Chuck was. There was no doubt in my mind that the younger student would have won, had he gone ahead to fight Chuck for the title. But he didn't. And the *reason* he didn't is that Chuck had a rule in his dojo that said that no lower-belt student in his karate school could ever fight a higher-belt student in a public contest. So the younger guy just bowed to Chuck and conceded the contest he should have won. THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Later in life, that student grew tired of Chuck's endless bullshit in the dojo and left and formed his own. He was the person who took Chuck's World Championship away from him. When it happened, all of Chuck's students, both past and present, cheered. There is a lesson of some sort in this, one that spiritual teachers and pretend-kings should learn.
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On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Those rules more often than not being backed up by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure that whether or not people see through the sham, they still pay lip service to it. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 5, 2009, at 1:38 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: THAT is conservatism. The artificial preservation of the status quo, with the people at the top *staying* at the top, enforced by rules that ensure that they stay there, regardless of merit. Those rules more often than not being backed up by guns of one sort or another, in order to ensure that whether or not people see through the sham, they still pay lip service to it. Sal People are starting to see and, lip service is fading.
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I am the eternal wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.comwrote: Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years? Alex, I've been wondering the very same thing for months now. These very same people who had no problem when Bush was trampling the Constitution and the Bill of Rights suddenly are His Majesty's loyal minority in every congressional vote, there to try to save the US Constitution from the Democrats and Obama. Add to that the governor of my state who will not relent on accepting stimulus money and actually has a fellow Republican senator shouting him down. Hopefuly our legislature will be able to bypass Perry. And what is Perry's stance on why he refuses to sign on to the Stimulus Bill? Because he wants to defend the US Constitution and states rights. States rights? Wasn't that a George Wallace thing? I wonder if Barry Goldwater is not hiding somewhere in the midst of these Republicans? Now which Conservatives are we talking about? I'm been watching conservatives fighting conservatives for several years now. We have the Rush Limbaugh conservatives which really probably aren't conservatives at all but just sheep that follow the Pied Piper of New York radio (though Rush started out in Sacramento). Then we have the Constitutional Conservatives who are mainly the Ron Paul crowd and listen to the Pied Piper of Austin Radio: Alex Jones. Funny thing about the Constitutional Conservatives is they often sound very liberal get calls come in from conservatives on the radio show accusing them of being liberal. Well the Constitution is rather a liberal document so if that is your foundation then you are faily liberal but that idea makes those Christian survivalist cum-libertarian types, who are fans, heads spin like Linda Blair in The Exorcist. :-D Now the main concern of many sides is big government which is owned and operated by big business. But tell the libertarians that big business is the problem and we need to seize and redistribute the wealth of the global elite and their heads spin like Linda Blair in The Exorcist too. Seems they don't want the opportunity taken away from them to become filthy rich people and become global elite assholes themselves. Sometimes if you hold the earth at arms length you get a good idea of what a fucked up place it is. If you've ever seen weevil infested grain or flour then think of the Earth as the flour and the weevils as human beings. Then you have a super real vision of the problem. ;-)
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On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. I don't listen to the talk shows. I watch Rachel Maddow on TV half because she's cute and half because she's funny. Outside of that, I only watch snippets of CSPAN and I read the bills, see who votes for and against them, then carefully read the laws. What I see on CSPAN is very, very funny. The Republicans are born again with, I suspect, a self-defeating agenda. I don't think down the road that saying they voted against this or that stimulus or budget is going to get them anywhere. Already real estate on the west coast is starting to show signs of life, with houses at fire sales of 41% off. Real Estate agents on the west coast are busy as they've ever been. Investors are going back into real estate and they're looking at either big bargains or prices of the new reality in housing. I don't see once we're out of this mess that saying you voted against this is going to get you points. OTOH, if the Federal Reserve doesn't quickly suck liquidity out of the economy around the end of the year, we could face hyperinflation of the scale of Germany or Italy before WWII and have a double dip recession as we saw in the 1980s. Now if the Federal Reserve could manage to control the period of hyperinflation, we'd have it made: we could minimize our national debt by inflating the dollar as we have several times before.
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I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. The Republicans ARE big government. They just put on a different mask now that a Democrat is President. They're still fooling the small business people into thinking they represent them. Take that constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party. They are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 1776. They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family. They are ignorant asses. Don't let them fool you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am the eternal wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I am the eternal wrote: I am lumping all of the Republican together because by and large suddenly they are a single congressional voting block, all voting to save our Constitution from big government and Governor Perry, from Federalism. Where the Hell were all of these folks while GWBush enlarged the government with the Patriot Act, torture, extraordinary extradition and spend, spend, spend? Indeed where was Governor Perry's voice when GWBush was doing this? How come he suddenly found his voice and his soap box (well, it has to do with upcoming elections where of all things, he hopes to sell himself to the people of Texas as a conservative savior of our federal constitution and the soverign Republic ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H State of Texas). Suddenly the Republicans have found their voice. It is to save the Republic from federalism or worse, socialism. The Republicans ARE big government. They just put on a different mask now that a Democrat is President. They're still fooling the small business people into thinking they represent them. Take that constituency away and they'd be about as big as the Green Party. They are the descendants of the people who wanted the Brits to win back in 1776. They are trying get the country back for the Royal Family. They are ignorant asses. Don't let them fool you. Do you think the wingnuts will reach critical mass like they did in the seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late?
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Nelson wrote: Do you think the wingnuts will reach critical mass like they did in the seventeen hundreds or, with their late start, will it be too late? Thomas Jefferson said we should probably have a revolutions every so once in a while to reboot the country. We are in serious need of rebooting or wiping the hard drive clean and starting over again. Maybe installing a different OS this time. Something a little more up to date. Of course that would disturb the sheep's grazing patterns and we can't have that. The sheep are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they take to the streets. We need to tell them they'll lose their jobs if they don't (and that is actually happening).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: ~~ Pitchforks and Pistols ~~ by Charles Blow New York Times, April 3, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?_r=1 Lately I've been consuming as much conservative media as possible (interspersed with shots of Pepto-Bismol) to get a better sense of the mind and mood of the right. My read: They're apocalyptic. They feel isolated, angry, betrayed and besieged. And some of their leaders seem to be trying to mold them into militias. At first, it was entertaining just harmless, hotheaded expostulation. Of course, there were the garbled facts, twisted logic and veiled hate speech. But what did I expect, fair and balanced? It was like walking through an ideological house of mirrors. The distortions can be mildly amusing at first, but if I stay too long it makes me sick. But, it's not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They're talking about a revolution. Some simply lace their unscrupulous screeds with loaded language about the fall of the Republic. We have to rise up and take back our country. Others have been much more explicit. For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, imagining herself as some sort of Delacroixian Liberty from the Land of the Lakes, urged her fellow Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous, ready to bust caps over cap-and-trade, I presume. And between his tears, Glenn Beck, the self-professed rodeo clown, keeps warning of an impending insurrection by saying that he believes that we are heading for depression and revolution and then gaming out that revolution on his show last month. Think the unthinkable he said. Indeed. All this talk of revolution is revolting, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. As the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, strong language can poison weak minds, as it did in the case of Timothy McVeigh. (We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.) At the same time, the unrelenting meme being pushed by the right that Obama will mount an assault on the Second Amendment has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms. According to the F.B.I., there have been 1.2 million more requests for background checks of potential gun buyers from November to February than there were in the same four months last year. - - That's 5.5 million requests altogether over that period; more than the number of people living in Bachmann's Minnesota. Coincidence? Maybe. Just posturing? Hopefully. But it all gives me a really bad feeling. (Where's that Pepto-Bismol?!) What if they are right--- It looks like both the first and second amendment are on thin ice with all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and, look at the reincarnated fairness doctrine. Total BS. N.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: ~~ Pitchforks and Pistols ~~ by Charles Blow New York Times, April 3, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?_r=1 Lately I've been consuming as much conservative media as possible (interspersed with shots of Pepto-Bismol) to get a better sense of the mind and mood of the right. My read: They're apocalyptic. They feel isolated, angry, betrayed and besieged. And some of their leaders seem to be trying to mold them into militias. At first, it was entertaining just harmless, hotheaded expostulation. Of course, there were the garbled facts, twisted logic and veiled hate speech. But what did I expect, fair and balanced? It was like walking through an ideological house of mirrors. The distortions can be mildly amusing at first, but if I stay too long it makes me sick. But, it's not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They're talking about a revolution. Some simply lace their unscrupulous screeds with loaded language about the fall of the Republic. We have to rise up and take back our country. Others have been much more explicit. For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, imagining herself as some sort of Delacroixian Liberty from the Land of the Lakes, urged her fellow Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous, ready to bust caps over cap-and-trade, I presume. And between his tears, Glenn Beck, the self-professed rodeo clown, keeps warning of an impending insurrection by saying that he believes that we are heading for depression and revolution and then gaming out that revolution on his show last month. Think the unthinkable he said. Indeed. All this talk of revolution is revolting, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. As the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, strong language can poison weak minds, as it did in the case of Timothy McVeigh. (We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.) At the same time, the unrelenting meme being pushed by the right that Obama will mount an assault on the Second Amendment has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms. According to the F.B.I., there have been 1.2 million more requests for background checks of potential gun buyers from November to February than there were in the same four months last year. - - That's 5.5 million requests altogether over that period; more than the number of people living in Bachmann's Minnesota. Coincidence? Maybe. Just posturing? Hopefully. But it all gives me a really bad feeling. (Where's that Pepto-Bismol?!) What if they are right--- It looks like both the first and second amendment are on thin ice with all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and, look at the reincarnated fairness doctrine. Total BS. N. Yes, Nelson ...all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and the reincarnated fairness doctrine is total BS from the loony right wing. Neither one is true: Well, it looks like the fairness doctrine died a quiet death today. White House spokesman Ben LaBolt told Fox News that President Obama was not interested in restoring the Federal Communications Commission rule that basically requires broadcasters to give equal time to opposing points of view. If enforced, the rule would obviously create havoc in talk radio land where conservatives dominate the airwaves. Not surprisingly, the right has been in a tailspin about this, predicting that Obama would somehow take away half of Rush and Sean and Laura and but liberals in their place. Talk about redistribution! But despite some congressional interest in the measure, the idea of restoring it was never really in play. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/the-fairness-doctrine-rip.php The anti-gun screening you mentioned is such malarkey that it doesn't even appear to be mentioned in any news outlet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: ~~ Pitchforks and Pistols ~~ by Charles Blow New York Times, April 3, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?_r=1 Lately I've been consuming as much conservative media as possible (interspersed with shots of Pepto-Bismol) to get a better sense of the mind and mood of the right. My read: They're apocalyptic. They feel isolated, angry, betrayed and besieged. And some of their leaders seem to be trying to mold them into militias. At first, it was entertaining just harmless, hotheaded expostulation. Of course, there were the garbled facts, twisted logic and veiled hate speech. But what did I expect, fair and balanced? It was like walking through an ideological house of mirrors. The distortions can be mildly amusing at first, but if I stay too long it makes me sick. But, it's not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They're talking about a revolution. Some simply lace their unscrupulous screeds with loaded language about the fall of the Republic. We have to rise up and take back our country. Others have been much more explicit. For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, imagining herself as some sort of Delacroixian Liberty from the Land of the Lakes, urged her fellow Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous, ready to bust caps over cap-and-trade, I presume. And between his tears, Glenn Beck, the self-professed rodeo clown, keeps warning of an impending insurrection by saying that he believes that we are heading for depression and revolution and then gaming out that revolution on his show last month. Think the unthinkable he said. Indeed. All this talk of revolution is revolting, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. As the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, strong language can poison weak minds, as it did in the case of Timothy McVeigh. (We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.) At the same time, the unrelenting meme being pushed by the right that Obama will mount an assault on the Second Amendment has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms. According to the F.B.I., there have been 1.2 million more requests for background checks of potential gun buyers from November to February than there were in the same four months last year. - - That's 5.5 million requests altogether over that period; more than the number of people living in Bachmann's Minnesota. Coincidence? Maybe. Just posturing? Hopefully. But it all gives me a really bad feeling. (Where's that Pepto-Bismol?!) What if they are right--- It looks like both the first and second amendment are on thin ice with all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and, look at the reincarnated fairness doctrine. Total BS. N. Yes, Nelson ...all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and the reincarnated fairness doctrine is total BS from the loony right wing. Neither one is true: Well, it looks like the fairness doctrine died a quiet death today. White House spokesman Ben LaBolt told Fox News that President Obama was not interested in restoring the Federal Communications Commission rule that basically requires broadcasters to give equal time to opposing points of view. If enforced, the rule would obviously create havoc in talk radio land where conservatives dominate the airwaves. Not surprisingly, the right has been in a tailspin about this, predicting that Obama would somehow take away half of Rush and Sean and Laura and but liberals in their place. Talk about redistribution! But despite some congressional interest in the measure, the idea of restoring it was never really in play. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/the-fairness-doctrine-rip.php The anti-gun screening you mentioned is such malarkey that it doesn't even appear to be mentioned in any news outlet. Will see if I can find some articles on this and, post them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: ~~ Pitchforks and Pistols ~~ by Charles Blow New York Times, April 3, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?_r=1 Lately I've been consuming as much conservative media as possible (interspersed with shots of Pepto-Bismol) to get a better sense of the mind and mood of the right. My read: They're apocalyptic. They feel isolated, angry, betrayed and besieged. And some of their leaders seem to be trying to mold them into militias. At first, it was entertaining just harmless, hotheaded expostulation. Of course, there were the garbled facts, twisted logic and veiled hate speech. But what did I expect, fair and balanced? It was like walking through an ideological house of mirrors. The distortions can be mildly amusing at first, but if I stay too long it makes me sick. But, it's not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They're talking about a revolution. Some simply lace their unscrupulous screeds with loaded language about the fall of the Republic. We have to rise up and take back our country. Others have been much more explicit. For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, imagining herself as some sort of Delacroixian Liberty from the Land of the Lakes, urged her fellow Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous, ready to bust caps over cap-and-trade, I presume. And between his tears, Glenn Beck, the self-professed rodeo clown, keeps warning of an impending insurrection by saying that he believes that we are heading for depression and revolution and then gaming out that revolution on his show last month. Think the unthinkable he said. Indeed. All this talk of revolution is revolting, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. As the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, strong language can poison weak minds, as it did in the case of Timothy McVeigh. (We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.) At the same time, the unrelenting meme being pushed by the right that Obama will mount an assault on the Second Amendment has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms. According to the F.B.I., there have been 1.2 million more requests for background checks of potential gun buyers from November to February than there were in the same four months last year. - - That's 5.5 million requests altogether over that period; more than the number of people living in Bachmann's Minnesota. Coincidence? Maybe. Just posturing? Hopefully. But it all gives me a really bad feeling. (Where's that Pepto-Bismol?!) What if they are right--- It looks like both the first and second amendment are on thin ice with all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and, look at the reincarnated fairness doctrine. Total BS. N. Yes, Nelson ...all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and the reincarnated fairness doctrine is total BS from the loony right wing. Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years?
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On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.comwrote: Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years? Alex, I've been wondering the very same thing for months now. These very same people who had no problem when Bush was trampling the Constitution and the Bill of Rights suddenly are His Majesty's loyal minority in every congressional vote, there to try to save the US Constitution from the Democrats and Obama. Add to that the governor of my state who will not relent on accepting stimulus money and actually has a fellow Republican senator shouting him down. Hopefuly our legislature will be able to bypass Perry. And what is Perry's stance on why he refuses to sign on to the Stimulus Bill? Because he wants to defend the US Constitution and states rights. States rights? Wasn't that a George Wallace thing? I wonder if Barry Goldwater is not hiding somewhere in the midst of these Republicans?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Wingnut Mob Militia Mentality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: ~~ Pitchforks and Pistols ~~ by Charles Blow New York Times, April 3, 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/opinion/04blow.html?_r=1 Lately I've been consuming as much conservative media as possible (interspersed with shots of Pepto-Bismol) to get a better sense of the mind and mood of the right. My read: They're apocalyptic. They feel isolated, angry, betrayed and besieged. And some of their leaders seem to be trying to mold them into militias. At first, it was entertaining just harmless, hotheaded expostulation. Of course, there were the garbled facts, twisted logic and veiled hate speech. But what did I expect, fair and balanced? It was like walking through an ideological house of mirrors. The distortions can be mildly amusing at first, but if I stay too long it makes me sick. But, it's not all just harmless talk. For some, their disaffection has hardened into something more dark and dangerous. They're talking about a revolution. Some simply lace their unscrupulous screeds with loaded language about the fall of the Republic. We have to rise up and take back our country. Others have been much more explicit. For example, Chuck Norris, the preeminent black belt and prospective Red Shirt, wrote earlier this month on the conservative blog WorldNetDaily: How much more will Americans take? When will enough be enough? And, when that time comes, will our leaders finally listen or will history need to record a second American Revolution? Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, imagining herself as some sort of Delacroixian Liberty from the Land of the Lakes, urged her fellow Minnesotans to be armed and dangerous, ready to bust caps over cap-and-trade, I presume. And between his tears, Glenn Beck, the self-professed rodeo clown, keeps warning of an impending insurrection by saying that he believes that we are heading for depression and revolution and then gaming out that revolution on his show last month. Think the unthinkable he said. Indeed. All this talk of revolution is revolting, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. As the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, strong language can poison weak minds, as it did in the case of Timothy McVeigh. (We sometimes forget that not all dangerous men are trained by Al Qaeda.) At the same time, the unrelenting meme being pushed by the right that Obama will mount an assault on the Second Amendment has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms. According to the F.B.I., there have been 1.2 million more requests for background checks of potential gun buyers from November to February than there were in the same four months last year. - - That's 5.5 million requests altogether over that period; more than the number of people living in Bachmann's Minnesota. Coincidence? Maybe. Just posturing? Hopefully. But it all gives me a really bad feeling. (Where's that Pepto-Bismol?!) What if they are right--- It looks like both the first and second amendment are on thin ice with all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and, look at the reincarnated fairness doctrine. Total BS. N. Yes, Nelson ...all the new people in DC having been screened to assure that they are anti-gun and the reincarnated fairness doctrine is total BS from the loony right wing. Where the hell were all these right wing Constitutionalists when BushCo was wiping its collective ass with the Constitution for eight fucking years? It looks like some people are finally waking up to the obvious which, until recently, looked like it wasn't going to happen. And, for Mr. do.rflex You can find Mr. O's questions for cabinet members on google which is quite long and, which would probably eliminate him if he had to answer it himself.
