[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you leave dualistic vision and begin integrating non-dual Vision many people encounter a plane filled with what seems to be an endless plane of small pyramids. A city of pyramids. On closer inspection you see these are not pyramids at all but high adepts who were all on the verge of enlightenment. They look like pyramids because they are all locked in full lotus. Close examination will reveal their nervous systems are perfectly pure. They are channeling perfect bliss and choose to stay that way. They do not help others. Aeons will pass and they will remain that way. Can anyone with a human body be really like that? We are not isolated entities, as what we are is formed through our interactions with others and the environment. Either we through our daily interactions help others to evolve or suck others to get short-term benefit above others to ourselves (cannot get long-term). And we all change with time to the better or worse through our interactions. I can understand there are personality structures that are very rigid and are mainly focused on sucking others. These beings often have the greatest need to prove to the world, and themselves also, how much they do for others. Their nervous system can be pure in such a way that they through certain practises and inner connections can easily experience and channel bliss, but their general personality structure is not evolved and in that way not pure. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:28 AM, Irmeli Mattsson wrote:Can anyone with a human body be really like that?Of course. For some people spirituality is a refined form of narcissism. That's why it's always important to know your deepest intent--and to "check" that intent--when undergoing practice. Different people have different intents for practice. Some may desire material wealth. Some may have been lead to believe a bliss state in some lotus-land is what they need. Yet others may generate the idea of enlightenment for everyone.These beings in the City of the Pyramids are no longer in physical bodies. Most were too interested in bliss or siddhis. And thus the danger of incorrect View. We are not isolated entities, as what we are is formed through our interactions with others and the environment. Either we through our daily interactions help others to evolve or suck others to get short-term benefit above others to ourselves (cannot get long-term). And we all change with time to the better or worse through our interactions. I can understand there are personality structures that are very rigid and are mainly focused on sucking others. These beings often have the greatest need to prove to the world, and themselves also, how much they do for others. Their nervous system can be pure in such a way that they through certain practises and inner connections can easily experience and channel bliss, but their general personality structure is not evolved and in that way not pure. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Mahesh was, probably still in, a clever manipulator of words. If you follow him (his talks) over time, you will notice that he seems to pick up more information as he goes -or- as time passed he became more confident in talking about the things he had learned. Anyone who has been on TTC or ATR with him has probably noticed the wannabe's in the crowd who undertake to teach him something. This, certainly, is something all teachers suffer from, of course; but in Mahesh's case it was quite the bonus, like some professor using his students to do research for him. The longer Mahesh traveled, the more he learned. One of the things he learned is that his own clever way of manipulating words was a real crowd pleaser. He was hardly above dissing the opposition ... so whether or not he knew anything about reincarnation, for example, or bodhisattvas, it was to his advantage to appear superior to such things! An old-timer at a.m.t. used to say that watching the back-and-forth at a.m.t. was fascinating, like watching a train-wreck! Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. Someone asked him, once, about all the gang killings in a certain huge city. He quipped: the criminals and killing the criminals ... and then laughed! I didn't before then know that killing was funny. Now, on reflection, I recognize the likelihood that he was simply laughing at his own cleverness; narcissists are like that. G --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. It seems that MMY in the first years in the West, he would not talk about reincarnation, maybe because he did not want Deep Meditation to be related to Hinduism as a religion. Now he do not care about that - he also refer to reincarnation. I have heard him say something like that:if you do a mistake in this life, don't worry, you have a second chance in the next life. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
I doubt Mahesh could care less about the world. Good grief, he's way too self-centred for that!! The TMO exists as his means of support, his do nothing and accomplish everything translation: manipulate others into doing the work for you -- well, the work is another way of saying give me your money. G --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, the TMO... To *creating* the TMO, not to helping the people of the world. The two are not the same. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Which is primarily a diversified real estate business with side ventures in offshore banking, agriculture, herbal supplements and used cars (look it up on varma's indian web site). Failed divisions include pundit education, women's dresses and taking over the world politically. If you read closely in Mason's bio of Mahesh, the chapters about the Beatles involvement, you will notice an interesting little statement about Mahesh expecting the Beatles to put a percentage of their earnings in his Swiss Account. I had sort of thought that being dissed by the Fab Four really bunched his dhoti so he set out to prove who knew what being rich amounted to. But apparently he had had riches in mind for some time. A few pages before or after, I forget which, he says to some prying reporter I have nothing. What a comedian! G Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a destructive path. For example he's said destructive things about the lifestyles of his initiators-the very ones who put off attempts at earning money to work for him an attempt and introduced a profusion of expensive programs, each one creating an air of elitism with it's consequent lower class. TM twice per day for 20 minutes was a great leveler and the greatest thing since a toasted salt bagel with butter, cream cheese, tomato and onion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a destructive path. One example that comes to mind are the destructive comments he used to make about the lifestyles of his initiators-the very ones who put off attempts at earning money to work for him. Another is the introducting of a profusion of expensive programs, each one creating an air of elitism with it's consequent lower class. TM twice per day for 20 minutes was a great leveler and the greatest thing since a toasted salt bagel with butter, cream cheese, tomato and onion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
On Oct 27, 2005, at 3:06 PM, gerbal88 wrote:If you read closely in Mason's bio of Mahesh, the chapters about the Beatles involvement, you will notice an interesting little statement about Mahesh expecting the Beatles to put a percentage of their earnings in his Swiss Account. I had sort of thought that being dissed by the Fab Four really bunched his dhoti so he set out to prove who knew what being rich amounted to. But apparently he had had riches in mind for some time. A few pages before or after, I forget which, he says to some prying reporter "I have nothing". What a comedian! I had heard a quote alleged to be from Swami Brahmananda to M. 'go to the mountains and meditate, the only thing you'll ever be good at is making money'. The quote certainly rings true, but I don't recall a source being mentioned for that quote (or quotes). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income. If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of the subsequent problems might have occured. Jason ---OriginalMessage-- From: "anonymousff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:06:50 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke --- gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Mahesh turned his whole "movement" into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a destructive path. For example he's said destructive things about the lifestyles of his initiators-the very ones who put off attempts at earning money to work for him an attempt and introduced a profusion of expensive programs, each one creating an air of elitism with it's consequent lower class. TM twice per day for 20 minutes was a great leveler and the greatest thing since a toasted salt bagel with butter, cream cheese, tomato and onion. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
umm, the bagel, that is. Yes, Mahesh is absolutely nutso, biting the hand that fed him. I guess he has such a high opinion of himself (himself being, basically, a thief and malignant narcissist) that he has to manufacture those who are worthy of supporting him in the style to which he yearns to become accustomed. I know it's not quite accurate to say he has contempt for others, because to do that's he'd actually have to care about someone other than himself, which he certainly doesn't. Yet, whatever it is he manifests towards what to me seems like others certainly looks like contempt. Yes, TM 2x20 was ok. But Mahesh was just clever, not insightful or knowledgable in any guru-type waay. He made it up as he went along using charm to beguile and manipulate others. He sold them what he learned from them and promised them things that he could easily see they wanted to believe. It began to fail, because he really wasn't offering anything of substance. So he took cheating others to a new level and called it A of E and Sighi and all kinds of crap that the movement no longer acknowledges and, unhappily, trancenet (now gone) no longer reminds us of. G --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahesh turned his whole movement into a fascinating train-wreck. I've long believed the very same thing. My observation is that since the mid-70s when the popularity of TM began to decline Maharishi has seemed set on a destructive path. One example that comes to mind are the destructive comments he used to make about the lifestyles of his initiators-the very ones who put off attempts at earning money to work for him. Another is the introducting of a profusion of expensive programs, each one creating an air of elitism with it's consequent lower class. TM twice per day for 20 minutes was a great leveler and the greatest thing since a toasted salt bagel with butter, cream cheese, tomato and onion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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A couple of questions, GerbYou seem to have a rather strong anti-MMY orientation to your posts. What was your experience in the TMO. Gov, Initiator, Purusha, MD? I'm not trying to set you up, I'm just curious what your experience has been because you seem to find no value whatsoever in the the TMO or MMY. Is that correct? --- gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt Mahesh could care less about the world. Good grief, he's way too self-centred for that!! The TMO exists as his means of support, his do nothing and accomplish everything translation: manipulate others into doing the work for you -- well, the work is another way of saying give me your money. G --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, the TMO... To *creating* the TMO, not to helping the people of the world. The two are not the same. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke on 10/27/05 2:23 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the first blunder Maharishi did was to ask The Beatles, a ten percent cut from their income. If he had treated the Beatles like any other disciples, None of the subsequent problems might have occured. Perhaps if he had done that, the Mia incident wouldnt have been the last straw for them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. It seems that MMY in the first years in the West, he would not talk about reincarnation, maybe because he did not want Deep Meditation to be related to Hinduism as a religion. Now he do not care about that - he also refer to reincarnation. I have heard him say something like that:if you do a mistake in this life, don't worry, you have a second chance in the next life. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/25/05 1:05 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. The way I heard it: Q: Maharishi, what about life after death? A: I don't believe in it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, the TMO... To *creating* the TMO, not to helping the people of the world. The two are not the same. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Which is primarily a diversified real estate business with side ventures in offshore banking, agriculture, herbal supplements and used cars (look it up on varma's indian web site). Failed divisions include pundit education, women's dresses and taking over the world politically. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Oct 25, 2005, at 3:17 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, "I'm opposed to it." And, "Its for the ignorant." Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Indeed. In western practice we call it "the City of the Pyramids". It was probably first noted by the Buddhist-tantric adept Aleister Crowley, but is also noted in Itzhak Bentov's notebooks.As you leave dualistic vision and begin integrating non-dual Vision many people encounter a plane filled with what seems to be an endless plane of small pyramids. A city of pyramids. On closer inspection you see these are not "pyramids" at all but high adepts who were all on the verge of enlightenment. They look like pyramids because they are all locked in full lotus. Close examination will reveal their nervous systems are perfectly pure. They are channeling perfect bliss and choose to stay that way. They do not help others. Aeons will pass and they will remain that way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Which is primarily a diversified real estate business with side ventures in offshore banking, agriculture, herbal supplements and used cars (look it up on varma's indian web site). Failed divisions include pundit education, women's dresses and taking over the world politically. WHy do you say that pundit education has failed? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is why he's devoted 50 years of his life, non-stop, to the TMO... Which is primarily a diversified real estate business with side ventures in offshore banking, agriculture, herbal supplements and used cars (look it up on varma's indian web site). Failed divisions include pundit education, women's dresses and taking over the world politically. WHy do you say that pundit education has failed? I was thinking of the empty rows of trailers up in vedic city. I guess there are functioning schools in India, though I'd say not much to show given all the money that's gone into it the past 20 yrs, starting with zimmerman's sponsorship in the 80s and going thru the millionaire courses. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
If you are not Enlightened, the you have failed. Quote Gita, Gita: "Fire, day, Light, Bright half of the moon, six months of the northern passage of the sun, and the knowers of Brahman go to the Brahman. Smoke, night, darkness, dark half of the moon, six months of southern passage of the sun and the Yogi obtains the Lunar light and returns." ---OriginalMessage-- From: "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:05:28 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke Jason Spock wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes RebirthI don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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on 10/25/05 1:05 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/25/05 1:05 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth 'Success' - only if you want it to. ---OriginalMessage-- From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:15:24 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] HA HA - A name and form joke from a friend: No wonder so many people say google's search engine can find anything for ya! Just follow these 5 simple steps. 1- Go to www.google.com 2- Type in Failure, without the quotes 3- Instead of hitting Search hit I'm feeling Lucky 4- Look at it and laugh at what comes up 5- Tell your friends before the people at Google Fix it. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Bodhisattvas, don't dwell in eternal bliss, regardless? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Bodhisattvas, don't dwell in eternal bliss, regardless? They undoubtedly do, just not in drop returns to the ocean mode. More like work your ass off for the people incarnation after incarnation while dwelling in eternal bliss (or not...what does it matter if your intent is to help people) mode. Suffice it to say that some Buddhists think of those who want to dissolve back into the absolute as spiritual slackers. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I don't get it; death will always cause rebirth. Why is that a failure? When asked about reincarnation, Maharishi used to say, I'm opposed to it. And, Its for the ignorant. Or for Bodhisattvas, who care more about other sentient beings than they do about dwelling in eternal bliss, a concept that seems to have escaped Maharishi completely. Bodhisattvas, don't dwell in eternal bliss, regardless? They undoubtedly do, just not in drop returns to the ocean mode. More like work your ass off for the people incarnation after incarnation while dwelling in eternal bliss (or not...what does it matter if your intent is to help people) mode. Suffice it to say that some Buddhists think of those who want to dissolve back into the absolute as spiritual slackers. :-) I am enjoying all of the riffs off my original question. In any case, I am still curious why rebirth following death is seen as a failure? Though it might be a case outside the *assumed* definitions of death and rebirth (i.e. multiple physical lives), I am thinking about a technique I employ for a mundane purpose, that of getting enough sleep at night. Sometimes after going to bed, or after waking during the night, I will still my mind in order to allow my autonomic nervous system to take over and put me back to sleep. I've noticed that when I still my mind, one of the things to go away is any thought of I or reference to I. Because there is nothing to identify with at all, I will experience a momentary fear before moving into sleep. It is like death in that way. And then I awaken a few hours later, as myself, having slept well. Similarly, to gain enlightenment we go through a process of death, then rebirth, from the inside out. That, and the previous example, both entail a death and rebirth. Yet neither are a failure. This is the context of my original question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodhisattvas, don't dwell in eternal bliss, regardless? They undoubtedly do, just not in drop returns to the ocean mode. More like work your ass off for the people incarnation after incarnation while dwelling in eternal bliss (or not...what does it matter if your intent is to help people) mode. Suffice it to say that some Buddhists think of those who want to dissolve back into the absolute as spiritual slackers. :-) Ah, petty sniping even among Bodhisattvas. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: HA HA - A name and form joke
'Failure' - Death causes Rebirth I am enjoying all of the riffs off my original question. In any case, I am still curious why rebirth following death is seen as a failure? Though it might be a case outside the *assumed* definitions of death and rebirth (i.e. multiple physical lives), I am thinking about a technique I employ for a mundane purpose, that of getting enough sleep at night. Sometimes after going to bed, or after waking during the night, I will still my mind in order to allow my autonomic nervous system to take over and put me back to sleep. I've noticed that when I still my mind, one of the things to go away is any thought of I or reference to I. Because there is nothing to identify with at all, I will experience a momentary fear before moving into sleep. It is like death in that way. And then I awaken a few hours later, as myself, having slept well. Similarly, to gain enlightenment we go through a process of death, then rebirth, from the inside out. That, and the previous example, both entail a death and rebirth. Yet neither are a failure. This is the context of my original question. Nice. And timely. Thanks for the tip about stillness before sleep. It's a technique I will begin to put into more use. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Not a complete failure. Life and death are twins. Both uphold evolution. Just as body has a age, soul has an age called soul-age. It is divided into usualy 7 categories.Baby soul, child- soul intermediate-soul, mature-soul, and finaly Ripe-soul. ---OriginalMessage-- From: "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:16 pm Subject: Re: HA HA - A name and form joke I am enjoying all of the riffs off my original question. In any case, I am still curious why rebirth following death is seen as a failure? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice. And timely. Thanks for the tip about stillness before sleep. It's a technique I will begin to put into more use. Yep. It works, and is a pretty cool way to slip into sleep. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
