[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself. Gaudapada called it asparsha yoga the intangible yoking, because it has no other. Awareness unidentified with conceptual constructs and unborn is declared to be non-different from the object of that awareness, which is Brahman. Thus unborn Brahman becomes manifest through unborn awareness. The awareness in question is not like that in deep sleep; in deep sleep the mind becomes oblivious, whereas in the awareness of a quiescent mind the light of awareness shines forth free of fear, shining on all sides as Brahman. This kind of awareness is unborn, without sleep or dream, without name of form, all-knowing at once, of the essence of all. It is not a mere metaphor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga). FWIW, PJ (or, perhaps rather: PA) introduces the eight (aSTau) limbs (an.gaani) as a dvandva compound, like this: yamaniyamAsanaprANAyAmapratyAhAradhAraNAdhyAnasamAdhayo.aSTAvan.gAni .. 29. (Without sandhi: yama-niyama+aasana-prANAyAma-pratyAhAra-dhAraNA-dhyAna-samAdhayaH*; aSTau; an.gAni .. 29.) Had he instead of a compound word used individual words, that suutra might have looked something like this: yamo niyama AsanaM prANAyAmaH pratyAhAro dhAraNA dhyAnam samAdhish cAShTAva~NgAni .. 29. * in a dvandva of more than two components, the last one is in plural, in this case the nominative: samaadhayaH [- samaadhai-aH]instead of samaadhiH!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
Card I think you're making a point here but I'm not sure what it is. I would like to understand what you're saying. Sounds like some fun info (-: From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:37 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself. Gaudapada called it asparsha yoga the intangible yoking, because it has no other. Awareness unidentified with conceptual constructs and unborn is declared to be non-different from the object of that awareness, which is Brahman. Thus unborn Brahman becomes manifest through unborn awareness. The awareness in question is not like that in deep sleep; in deep sleep the mind becomes oblivious, whereas in the awareness of a quiescent mind the light of awareness shines forth free of fear, shining on all sides as Brahman. This kind of awareness is unborn, without sleep or dream, without name of form, all-knowing at once, of the essence of all. It is not a mere metaphor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga). FWIW, PJ (or, perhaps rather: PA) introduces the eight (aSTau) limbs (an.gaani) as a dvandva compound, like this: yamaniyamAsanaprANAyAmapratyAhAradhAraNAdhyAnasamAdhayo.aSTAvan.gAni .. 29. (Without sandhi: yama-niyama+aasana-prANAyAma-pratyAhAra-dhAraNA-dhyAna-samAdhayaH*; aSTau; an.gAni .. 29.) Had he instead of a compound word used individual words, that suutra might have looked something like this: yamo niyama AsanaM prANAyAmaH pratyAhAro dhAraNA dhyAnam samAdhish cAShTAva~NgAni .. 29. * in a dvandva of more than two components, the last one is in plural, in this case the nominative: samaadhayaH [- samaadhai-aH]instead of samaadhiH!
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
emptybill: Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself... So, you're going solo. Go figure. This doesn't really explain how I could achieve CC. Tantric Yoga is all about sex, placement and positioning. If you don't have any limbs, how are you going to position yourself? LoL! The important thing is, do you enjoy? Work cited: 'Yoga and Sex Scandals: No Surprise Here' By William J. Broad Posted on February 27, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/ct59amc Read more: 'The Tantric Body: The Secret Tradition of Hindu Religion by Gavin D. Flood I. B. Tauris, 2005
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Some time ago you posted about the Windows tendency to upgrade on wednesdays. Mine is now trying since yesterday but fails, turning the PC off and on again to no avail; updating fails. Did you have a remedy ?
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Sorry, Richard and Mr. Soss, I can't restrain myself from saying: more support of Nature (-: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Some time ago you posted about the Windows tendency to upgrade on wednesdays. Mine is now trying since yesterday but fails, turning the PC off and on again to no avail; updating fails. Did you have a remedy ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
I love this, thank you for posting. From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself. Gaudapada called it asparsha yoga the intangible yoking, because it has no other. Awareness unidentified with conceptual constructs and unborn is declared to be non-different from the object of that awareness, which is Brahman. Thus unborn Brahman becomes manifest through unborn awareness. The awareness in question is not like that in deep sleep; in deep sleep the mind becomes oblivious, whereas in the awareness of a quiescent mind the light of awareness shines forth free of fear, shining on all sides as Brahman. This kind of awareness is unborn, without sleep or dream, without name of form, all-knowing at once, of the essence of all. It is not a mere metaphor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
Alrighty...help me out? How do you define the support of Nature? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY Sorry, Richard and Mr. Soss, I can't restrain myself from saying: more support of Nature (-: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 9:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: Some time ago you posted about the Windows tendency to upgrade on wednesdays. Mine is now trying since yesterday but fails, turning the PC off and on again to no avail; updating fails. Did you have a remedy ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Some time ago you posted about the Windows tendency to upgrade on wednesdays. Mine is now trying since yesterday but fails, turning the PC off and on again to no avail; updating fails. Did you have a remedy ? Try installing the updates one at a time manually. There are occasional problems, where the order of installation can bolix things. Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday is the usual day these fixes are available, but the notifications or automatic install sometimes take until Wednesday to get to everyone. There are also occasional out-of-band patches for important security fixes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I love this, thank you for posting. From: emptybill emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 6:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself. Gaudapada called it asparsha yoga the intangible yoking, because it has no other. Awareness unidentified with conceptual constructs and unborn is declared to be non-different from the object of that awareness, which is Brahman. Thus unborn Brahman becomes manifest through unborn awareness. The awareness in question is not like that in deep sleep; in deep sleep the mind becomes oblivious, whereas in the awareness of a quiescent mind the light of awareness shines forth free of fear, shining on all sides as Brahman. This kind of awareness is unborn, without sleep or dream, without name of form, all-knowing at once, of the essence of all. It is not a mere metaphor. Yes, this is really nice. This is Brahman Consciousness, or when unity matures by loss of sense of identity. In this state absolute and relative are indistinguishable, completely merged, although that is a story for the sake of teaching, because they were always completely merged. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God?ÃÂ I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once.ÃÂ Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga).
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? Would limbless yoga be faster? From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTzu_SxTis I seem to recall MMY saying that in about 5 years one would develop 'quite a lot of cosmic consciousness'. Regarding the MMY video, the sage Nisargadatta, 1897-1981, is reputed have have experienced full realisation (i.e. unity) in less than three years. And he 1. Was married and had a daughter. 2. Owned eight tobacco stores. 3. Smoked cigarettes all his life. 4. Ate meat. I think you need to practice ALL eight limbs of YOGA, Yes? MMY says all eight limbs MUST be practiced simultaneously, Charlie used to say, 7 lifetimes. MMY/Gita Why is God a *jealous* God? Because unless you put HIM first, he will not come! Here is what Mark Twain said about the god of the Torah (or Old Testament from the Christian perspective): Jealousy. Do not forget it, keep it in mind. It is the key. With it you will come to partly understand God as we go along; without it nobody can understand him. As I have said, he has openly held up this treasonous key himself, for all to see. He says, naïvely, outspokenly, and without suggestion of embarrassment: I the Lord thy God am a jealous God. You see, it is only another way of saying, I the Lord thy God am a small God; a small God, and fretful about small things. He was giving a warning: he could not bear the thought of any other God getting some of the Sunday compliments of this comical little human race -- he wanted all of them for himself. He valued them. To him they were riches; just as tin money is to a Zulu. But wait -- I am not fair; I am misrepresenting him; prejudice is beguiling me into saying what is not true. He did not say he wanted all of the adulations; he said nothing about not being willing to share them with his fellow gods; what he said was, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. It is a quite different thing, and puts him in a much better light -- I confess it. There was an abundance of gods, the woods were full of them, as the saying is, and all he demanded was that he should be ranked as high as the others -- not above any of them, but not below any of them. He was willing that they should fertilize earthly virgins, but not on any better terms than he could have for himself in his turn. He wanted to be held their equal. This he insisted upon, in the clearest language: he would have no other gods before him. They could march abreast with him, but none of them could head the procession, and he did not claim the right to head it himself ...Do you think he was able to stick to that upright and creditable position? No. He could keep to a bad resolution forever, but he couldn't keep to a good one a month. By and by he threw aside and calmly claimed to be the only God in the entire universe. There is a hand-written note Twain inscribed in a copy of one of his books: All gods are better than their reputation.
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I'd say pretty effortless (-: From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? Would limbless yoga be faster? From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] How long will it take to reach CC-MMY  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiTzu_SxTis I seem to recall MMY saying that in about 5 years one would develop 'quite a lot of cosmic consciousness'. Regarding the MMY video, the sage Nisargadatta, 1897-1981, is reputed have have experienced full realisation (i.e. unity) in less than three years. And he 1. Was married and had a daughter. 2. Owned eight tobacco stores. 3. Smoked cigarettes all his life. 4. Ate meat. I think you need to practice ALL eight limbs of YOGA, Yes? MMY says all eight limbs MUST be practiced simultaneously, Charlie used to say, 7 lifetimes. MMY/Gita Why is God a *jealous* God? Because unless you put HIM first, he will not come! Here is what Mark Twain said about the god of the Torah (or Old Testament from the Christian perspective): Jealousy. Do not forget it, keep it in mind. It is the key. With it you will come to partly understand God as we go along; without it nobody can understand him. As I have said, he has openly held up this treasonous key himself, for all to see. He says, naïvely, outspokenly, and without suggestion of embarrassment: I the Lord thy God am a jealous God. You see, it is only another way of saying, I the Lord thy God am a small God; a small God, and fretful about small things. He was giving a warning: he could not bear the thought of any other God getting some of the Sunday compliments of this comical little human race -- he wanted all of them for himself. He valued them. To him they were riches; just as tin money is to a Zulu. But wait -- I am not fair; I am misrepresenting him; prejudice is beguiling me into saying what is not true. He did not say he wanted all of the adulations; he said nothing about not being willing to share them with his fellow gods; what he said was, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. It is a quite different thing, and puts him in a much better light -- I confess it. There was an abundance of gods, the woods were full of them, as the saying is, and all he demanded was that he should be ranked as high as the others -- not above any of them, but not below any of them. He was willing that they should fertilize earthly virgins, but not on any better terms than he could have for himself in his turn. He wanted to be held their equal. This he insisted upon, in the clearest language: he would have no other gods before him. They could march abreast with him, but none of them could head the procession, and he did not claim the right to head it himself ...Do you think he was able to stick to that upright and creditable position? No. He could keep to a bad resolution forever, but he couldn't keep to a good one a month. By and by he threw aside and calmly claimed to be the only God in the entire universe. There is a hand-written note Twain inscribed in a copy of one of his books: All gods are better than their reputation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga).
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long will it take to reach CC-MMY
Nowadays, I only practice octaplegic yoga ... the limbless identity of awareness with itself. Gaudapada called it asparsha yoga the intangible yoking, because it has no other. Awareness unidentified with conceptual constructs and unborn is declared to be non-different from the object of that awareness, which is Brahman. Thus unborn Brahman becomes manifest through unborn awareness. The awareness in question is not like that in deep sleep; in deep sleep the mind becomes oblivious, whereas in the awareness of a quiescent mind the light of awareness shines forth free of fear, shining on all sides as Brahman. This kind of awareness is unborn, without sleep or dream, without name of form, all-knowing at once, of the essence of all. It is not a mere metaphor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Maybe what's happening is some projecting of human qualities onto God? I thought doing TM was practicing all 8 limbs at once. Does it say that in back of Science of Being? MMY referred to Patanjali's limbs as *means* not *ends* in his Bhagavad Gita, (in the appendix on Yoga).
