[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's lighten things up a bit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Dune books gave me permission to have many wonderful experiences. The first book in particular clicked with me. I was shocked to read a synopsis a few weeks ago stating that this was the land of the Ved and then when I yanked up the movie, it was deja vu all over again when I saw that the book became a David Lynch Movie. Is it possible that The Voice and the sayings and doings of the Bene Gesserit were based on NLP? Not just possible, verified. Frank Herbert and many other SciFi writers of that era were aware of and interested in such techniques. I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --- Frank Herbert, Dune - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's lighten things up a bit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, The Secret L.Shaddai@ wrote: The Dune books gave me permission to have many wonderful experiences. The first book in particular clicked with me. I was shocked to read a synopsis a few weeks ago stating that this was the land of the Ved and then when I yanked up the movie, it was deja vu all over again when I saw that the book became a David Lynch Movie. Is it possible that The Voice and the sayings and doings of the Bene Gesserit were based on NLP? Not just possible, verified. Frank Herbert and many other SciFi writers of that era were aware of and interested in such techniques. Just to clarify, NLP is a bit of a johnny-come- lately psychological theory, based on and extrapolated from earlier work by Milton Erickson, Fritz Perls, and others. While they might not have known about NLP per se, Herbert and many other SciFi writers were heavily influenced by the work of Count Korzybski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's lighten things up a bit
I wish it were possible for a person to use a shill in demos like these. You know, someone you pay to do what you want for a show. Like someone who you can pay and then tell them what to say and do when the cameras are running. I guess that is completely impossible. It makes more sense that his NLP skills are instantly effective and magical on strangers. Yeah that makes much more sense. How could anyone actually give money to another person for the purposes of making it look like they had done something magical? No way! That could never happen. Other than every working magician I know of, no one would use a paid actor to pretend they were innocent... Ok now my snarkiness is too much even for me. I studied NLP and there are people who believe that it is all so simple and effective. But it doesn't work this well or that instantly. I've trained with some of the best, even one of the founders, John Grinder. This guy is not demonstrating NLP or hypnosis, it just doesn't work that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have an interest in spiritual practices, group dynamics and the wilder shores of suggestibility here're some YouTube clips which ought to make you laugh, gawp, feel smug and generally leave you scratching your head thinking What the F...!, Um, er, eh how did he do that. It's a few clips of a British magician/mentalist/entertainer called Derren Brown who is famous in the UK for mucking about with people's minds while they're not looking and leaving the cameras on to display the effects. Very wild and way cool. He's doing a US series sometime. For a laugh So you think you know the color red when you see it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-QtNE9k84 Has something like this ever happened to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TURhK90_8 Now come on be honest! The trick is explained www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmOlQRuaYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmOlQRuaYM A bit more serious You do Voodoo? Are you really sure? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2yKlNFFuU Always question things. Astrology, m http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haP7Ys9ocTk We've heard that one. Catch my dreams! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1N_UHhMpzk Have your's been caught? More tricks with Crystals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgmOJGMsrFQ (without money changing hands!) Playing with collective consciousness Group coherence can be joyful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9G0Lg3cUJA But beware of Crowd control http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOEKdaXIEHc You will be assimilated into the group mind! Wisdom of Crowds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZroxXmFovc Persuasion Cast your mind back, have you ever done something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sq-YUdq1OI ? and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DylNVUN_3I Group dynamics are not always fun. Be afraid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p958woXcYcI and then Be very afraid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GxIuljT3w If that leaves you feeling in need of upliftment then have a laugh with something very nearly plain vanilla magic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AewhMHhCmNQ or heartwarming, my fave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oY0tL2cMsM I like these clips and other Derren Brown stuff because it forces people to ask questions about their beliefs. Way cool. Check out other DB clips on YouTube and wind up your friends. Enjoy Guy Fawkes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Let's lighten things up a bit
2008-01-17
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Certainly an NLP trick, done with a highly suggestible entity, though I wouldn't be surprised that she was a shill either, and still gullible to be a suggestible to be that shill. On 1/17/08, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish it were possible for a person to use a shill in demos like these. You know, someone you pay to do what you want for a show. Like someone who you can pay and then tell them what to say and do when the cameras are running. I guess that is completely impossible. It makes more sense that his NLP skills are instantly effective and magical on strangers. Yeah that makes much more sense. How could anyone actually give money to another person for the purposes of making it look like they had done something magical? No way! That could never happen. Other than every working magician I know of, no one would use a paid actor to pretend they were innocent... Ok now my snarkiness is too much even for me. I studied NLP and there are people who believe that it is all so simple and effective. But it doesn't work this well or that instantly. I've trained with some of the best, even one of the founders, John Grinder. This guy is not demonstrating NLP or hypnosis, it just doesn't work that way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have an interest in spiritual practices, group dynamics and the wilder shores of suggestibility here're some YouTube clips which ought to make you laugh, gawp, feel smug and generally leave you scratching your head thinking What the F...!, Um, er, eh how did he do that. It's a few clips of a British magician/mentalist/entertainer called Derren Brown who is famous in the UK for mucking about with people's minds while they're not looking and leaving the cameras on to display the effects. Very wild and way cool. He's doing a US series sometime. For a laugh So you think you know the color red when you see it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-QtNE9k84 Has something like this ever happened to you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-TURhK90_8 Now come on be honest! The trick is explained www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmOlQRuaYM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybmOlQRuaYM A bit more serious You do Voodoo? Are you really sure? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2yKlNFFuU Always question things. Astrology, m http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haP7Ys9ocTk We've heard that one. Catch my dreams! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1N_UHhMpzk Have your's been caught? More tricks with Crystals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgmOJGMsrFQ (without money changing hands!) Playing with collective consciousness Group coherence can be joyful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9G0Lg3cUJA But beware of Crowd control http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOEKdaXIEHc You will be assimilated into the group mind! Wisdom of Crowds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZroxXmFovc Persuasion Cast your mind back, have you ever done something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sq-YUdq1OI ? and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DylNVUN_3I Group dynamics are not always fun. Be afraid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p958woXcYcI and then Be very afraid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GxIuljT3w If that leaves you feeling in need of upliftment then have a laugh with something very nearly plain vanilla magic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AewhMHhCmNQ or heartwarming, my fave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oY0tL2cMsM I like these clips and other Derren Brown stuff because it forces people to ask questions about their beliefs. Way cool. Check out other DB clips on YouTube and wind up your friends. Enjoy Guy Fawkes
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's lighten things up a bit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish it were possible for a person to use a shill in demos like these. You know, someone you pay to do what you want for a show. Like someone who you can pay and then tell them what to say and do when the cameras are running. I guess that is completely impossible. It makes more sense that his NLP skills are instantly effective and magical on strangers. Yeah that makes much more sense. How could anyone actually give money to another person for the purposes of making it look like they had done something magical? No way! That could never happen. Other than every working magician I know of, no one would use a paid actor to pretend they were innocent... Ok now my snarkiness is too much even for me. I studied NLP and there are people who believe that it is all so simple and effective. But it doesn't work this well or that instantly. I've trained with some of the best, even one of the founders, John Grinder. This guy is not demonstrating NLP or hypnosis, it just doesn't work that way. The Dune books gave me permission to have many wonderful experiences. The first book in particular clicked with me. I was shocked to read a synopsis a few weeks ago stating that this was the land of the Ved and then when I yanked up the movie, it was deja vu all over again when I saw that the book became a David Lynch Movie. Is it possible that The Voice and the sayings and doings of the Bene Gesserit were based on NLP? I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. --- Frank Herbert, Dune - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
