[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin

2008-09-13 Thread shempmcgurk
Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan.

Her husband was a long-time associate of Clark Clifford who was the 
top adviser to Democrat presidents and the Democrat Party for decades.

Indeed, they were so close that they were indicted and tried together 
in a sensational bank fraud case a number of years back (both were 
acquited if I remember correctly).




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Interview for Philly Magazine:
 
 
 Excerpt:
 
 VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the
 comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to
 Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that?
 
 
 LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. 
She's
 judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live
 their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness … that's 
just
 not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like
 Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she?
 
 No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to
 force your own personal views upon the populace — religious views. I
 think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the
 loyal opposition. That's the whole point of this country: freedom of
 speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be
 the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your
 own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I 
want
 to do with mine.
 
 I like John McCain. But this woman — it's anathema to me what she
 stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid.
 Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the
 Constitution did agree on — that it wasn't to be a religious
 government. People should feel free to speak their minds about
 religion but not dictate it or put it into law.
 
 What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to 
say
 they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think 
that's
 ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's
 not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to 
have a
 visceral reaction. And it makes me mad.
 
 People need to speak up. Doesn't mean that I'm godless. Doesn't mean
 that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody
 but one position. You're un-American because you're against the war.
 It's such bullshit. Fear. It's really such a finite way of thinking
 about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind 
of
 God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I
 don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind.
 
 
http://www.phillymag.com/arts_entertainment/articles/whats_what_with_l
ynda_carter/
 
 or, http://tinyurl.com/4qtbyq





[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin

2008-09-13 Thread authfriend
One ignoramus being judgmental about another ignoramus.
How edifying.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Interview for Philly Magazine:
 
 Excerpt:
 
 VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the
 comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to
 Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that?
 
 LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder
 Woman. She's judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how
 they've got to live their lives. And a superior religious
 self-righteousness … that's just not what Wonder Woman is
 about.

Love to see Carter quote Palin telling people how
they've got to live their lives, or being religiously
self-righteous.

Anybody?

Buehler?

 Hillary Clinton is a lot more like
 Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she?
 
 No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this
 country, to force your own personal views upon the populace —
 religious views.

Actually, the only personal view she's shown the
slightest inclination of forcing on the populace--
at least that I've heard about--concerns abortion.
And guess what? That is *not* necessarily a
religious view.

On the other hand, if you are absolutely convinced
that abortion is murder, based on religious belief
or not, *of course* you're going to try to get it
banned, just as those of us who believe capital
punishment is murder are trying to get *it* banned.

snip
 What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even
 begin to say they know the mind of God. Who do they think
 they are? I think that's ridiculous. I know what God is
 in my life. Now I am sure that she's not all just that.
 But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to have a
 visceral reaction. And it makes me mad.

I would never presume to know God's will or to speak
God's words.--Sarah Palin in her ABC interview

snip
 It's really such a finite way of thinking about God to think
 that your measley little mind can know the mind of God. It's
 a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I don't
 presume to know his mind. Or her mind.

Or even what she's said, it would seem.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin

2008-09-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan.






 
 Her husband was a long-time associate of Clark Clifford who was the 
 top adviser to Democrat presidents and the Democrat Party for decades.
 
 Indeed, they were so close that they were indicted and tried together 
 in a sensational bank fraud case a number of years back (both were 
 acquited if I remember correctly).
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  Interview for Philly Magazine:
  
  
  Excerpt:
  
  VICTOR FIORILLO: Okay, last question. I'm sure you've seen all the
  comparisons in the media and among Republicans of Sarah Palin to
  Wonder Woman. How do you feel about that?
  
  
  LYNDA CARTER: Don't get me started. She's the anti-Wonder Woman. 
 She's
  judgmental and dictatorial, telling people how they've got to live
  their lives. And a superior religious self-righteousness … that's 
 just
  not what Wonder Woman is about. Hillary Clinton is a lot more like
  Wonder Woman than Mrs. Palin. She did it all, didn't she?
  
  No one has the right to dictate, particularly in this country, to
  force your own personal views upon the populace — religious views. I
  think that is suppressive, oppressive, and anti-American. We are the
  loyal opposition. That's the whole point of this country: freedom of
  speech, personal rights, personal freedom. Nor would Wonder Woman be
  the person to tell people how to live their lives. Worry about your
  own life! Worry about your own family! Don't be telling me what I 
 want
  to do with mine.
  
  I like John McCain. But this woman — it's anathema to me what she
  stands for. I think America should be very afraid. Very afraid.
  Separation of church and state is the one thing the creators of the
  Constitution did agree on — that it wasn't to be a religious
  government. People should feel free to speak their minds about
  religion but not dictate it or put it into law.
  
  What I don't understand, honestly, is how anyone can even begin to 
 say
  they know the mind of God. Who do they think they are? I think 
 that's
  ridiculous. I know what God is in my life. Now I am sure that she's
  not all just that. But it's enough to me. It's enough for me to 
 have a
  visceral reaction. And it makes me mad.
  
  People need to speak up. Doesn't mean that I'm godless. Doesn't mean
  that I am a murderer. What I hate is this demonization of everybody
  but one position. You're un-American because you're against the war.
  It's such bullshit. Fear. It's really such a finite way of thinking
  about God to think that your measley little mind can know the mind 
 of
  God. It's a very little God that way. I think that God's bigger. I
  don't presume to know his mind. Or her mind.
  
  
 http://www.phillymag.com/arts_entertainment/articles/whats_what_with_l
 ynda_carter/
  
  or, http://tinyurl.com/4qtbyq
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin

2008-09-13 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Lynda Carter is hardly a non-partisan.



LYNDA CARTER: I like John McCain. But this woman — it's anathema to me
what she stands for.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Lynda Carter (Wonder Woman) on Sarah Palin

2008-09-13 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]

 Actually, the only personal view she's shown the
 slightest inclination of forcing on the populace--
 at least that I've heard about--concerns abortion.
 And guess what? That is *not* necessarily a
 religious view.
 
 On the other hand, if you are absolutely convinced
 that abortion is murder, based on religious belief
 or not, *of course* you're going to try to get it
 banned, just as those of us who believe capital
 punishment is murder are trying to get *it* banned.

[snip]


...and I would presume that, even then, her position on abortion 
would be to overturn Roe v. Wade.

But what overturning Roe v. Wade would do is simply turn it over to 
the individual 50 states to decide, which is where many experts feel 
it should have been left in the first place.  Before the case was 
handed down by the Supreme Court in 1973 there were numerous states 
that allowed abortions.

Interestingly, if memory serves me correctly, liberal New York State 
wasn't one of them; New York had had a pro-choice law but the state 
legislature overturned it at some point before Roe v. Wade was handed 
down.

But I think that the whole emphasis on questioning candidates for 
president and VP stand on this issue and who they would therefore 
appoint to the Supreme Court is way overblown in terms of importance.

Why?

Because since Roe v Wade became law in 1973, 22 of those 35 years has 
seen a pro-life Republican president in office; of the 12 years held 
by Democrats, four of those years were administered by Jimmy Carter 
who is more pro-life than any of those Republicans.  So 26 of the 35 
years since Roe v. Wade were overseen by pro-life, anti-abortion 
presidents.

7 of the 9 current sitting Justices on the Supremme Court were 
appointed by those pro-life, anti-abortion Republican presidents.

Yet in the 35 years since Roe V. Wade, of the 45 million abortions 
that has occured in the United States not one of those babies has 
been denied the pleasure of being sucked out of its mother's 
womb...DESPITE who was president.

As George Will once observed: the president is not as powerful as 
people think he is...