[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-10 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
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  http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3
 
 Paul, 
   If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it
 from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in
 the source that you made the mp3 file from ? 
 
 Thanks for posting that clip
 
 JohnY

John, In a previous postings I believe you mentioned that you have a 
copy (of the first edition) of my biography of MMY, there are a few 
snatches of this recordings quoted there. 
Re: edits. The mp3 is faithful to the 'master' tape with no edits.
I posted the mp3 in order to allay any doubts about the contents of 
the transcript I wrote. I'm glad you enjoyed hearing it - it is now 
about thirty-five years old.
Jay Gurudev
Paul




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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-10 Thread Alex Stanley
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 Using the 'television channel' instead.

Bloomberg Television?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-10 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3
  
  Paul, 
If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it
  from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in
  the source that you made the mp3 file from ? 
  
  Thanks for posting that clip
  
  JohnY
 
 John, In a previous postings I believe you mentioned that you have a 
 copy (of the first edition) of my biography of MMY, there are a few 
 snatches of this recordings quoted there. 
 Re: edits. The mp3 is faithful to the 'master' tape with no edits.
 I posted the mp3 in order to allay any doubts about the contents of 
 the transcript I wrote. I'm glad you enjoyed hearing it - it is now 
 about thirty-five years old.
 Jay Gurudev
 Paul

Paul, 
I didn't doubt your transcript. I may have a copy of that tape.

JohnY
PS I also have some Guru Dev on tape, but I think that you have posted
all that I have. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-10 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
 Paul, 
 I didn't doubt your transcript. I may have a copy of that tape.
 
 JohnY
 PS I also have some Guru Dev on tape, but I think that you have posted
 all that I have.

John,
I didn't think you doubted the transcript, it was a concern raised on 
another group that stimulated the decision to post the mp3.

It is conceivable you have a copy of the tape although, to the best of 
my knowledge, few have heard this recording.

If you have Guru Dev on tape please let me have anything that might 
conceivably be additional to the recordings I already have on his 
webpage. Better to be safe than sorry - You might have a missing link!
Paul





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-10 Thread jim_flanegin
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  Using the 'television channel' instead.
 
 Bloomberg Television?

ha-ha! Good one! actually I meant that at times the momentum for 
spritual purification gets so powerful within me that I consciously 
take actions to slow it down, so I can integrate the expansion of 
consciousness better. Been doing it my whole meditating 'career'...

Anyway that's what I meant when I said I put away my altar for awhile. 
And the television channel was a reference to absent the physical 
objects of my altar, they are in thought instead. (Not as your 
question implies, that I swing abruptly from a spritual orientation to 
a material one, and then back again...)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
Said very well. Thanks.

Marek
**

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  MMY answers questions about Guru Dev.
  [...]
  ...And I was never interested who was given what mantra. I was 
  interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]...
  [...] 
  ... Out of that fullness I started to teach. [MMY pauses, slight 
  audience laughter] At least by practice people could rise and 
raise 
  themselves up.
 –
 Thank you, Paul, for posting this. I read it a couple of days ago 
and 
 have been turning it over in my mind. At first, I felt some 
 irritation, a kind of I knew it, Maharishi is only
 interested in 
 himself! But I continued to reflect and began to consider that 
there 
 was something more to this. 
 
 All the interest, dedication, commitment to others is a good 
thing, 
 of course. But without interest, dedication, commitment to one's
 own 
 spiritual development (fully humanizing oneself before setting out 
to 
 help others), which I hope is what Maharishi is saying, nothing 
 really useful is going to be achieved. The more I thought about 
this 
 and other things Maharishi said over the years, things he said to 
me 
 personally and to others around him, the more I have felt a 
release 
 from the rather too obvious nuttiness of the TMO and a now 
paranoid 
 dependent old man who no longer is or can ever again be my teacher.
 
 I was interested in myself and Out of that
 fullness seems to me 
 to be the key teaching, the summation of what Maharishi was doing 
all 
 those years: setting an example (never quite a good one with 
respect 
 to the cultural milieu I knew, but the best example he could come 
up 
 with, nonetheless). *Find what is right for you, penetrate it as 
 deeply as you possibly can and then, once you have determined it 
is 
 going to benefit you and, according to my cultural milieu, allow 
you 
 to benefit others, go for it*.
 
 I abandoned Maharishi and his organized loonies a long time ago; 
but 
 never quite saw through the mirage I had set up for myself about 
him 
 until I pondered this lovely piece of very interesting insight …
 or 
 was it my own insight I was pondering. I don't know.
 
 Thank you, again, Paul. If you have other talks in which Maharishi 
 talks about his time with Guru Dev, could you post them, or post a 
 link to them? – We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
 it have 
 been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I 
 think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be 
even 
 greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the 
 citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow.
 
 G




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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
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We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
 it have 
 been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I 
 think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be 
even 
 greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the 
 citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow.
 

actually if you want to feel a similar experience of being close to 
Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about him or check out his 
pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar vibration to Guru Dev. Both 
are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva energy. Peter said it 
better than I can. Then you won't have to long for a fantasy anymore.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
Comment below:

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wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
  it have 
  been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I 
  think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be 
 even 
  greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the 
  citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow.
  
 
 actually if you want to feel a similar experience of being close to 
 Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about him or check out 
his 
 pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar vibration to Guru Dev. 
Both 
 are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva energy. Peter said it 
 better than I can. Then you won't have to long for a fantasy anymore.

**END**

And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.

Marek




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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
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 And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.
 
 Marek

that sounds great! I never learned how, but it sounds really nice.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Sutphen


--- marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Comment below:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't
   it have 
   been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been
 his disciple. But I 
   think, with respect to the material you have
 posted, it would be 
  even 
   greater to be a disciple of that inner guru,
 one's own citta, the 
   citta itself from which flows all that can ever
 flow.
   
  
  actually if you want to feel a similar experience
 of being close to 
  Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about
 him or check out 
 his 
  pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar
 vibration to Guru Dev. 
 Both 
  are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva
 energy. Peter said it 
  better than I can. Then you won't have to long for
 a fantasy anymore.
 
 **END**
 
 And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.
 
 Marek

Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him.
Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single
spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from
and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of creation and
bow to it. Imagine God and bow to Him/Her. No close
your eyes and let go. Do nothing. Rest in the deepest
gratitude and authentic respect and just be present.
Rest in absolute nothingness.it will swallow
you. 



 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread marekreavis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen 
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**SNIP**
  
 Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him.
 Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single
 spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from
 and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of creation and
 bow to it. Imagine God and bow to Him/Her. No close
 your eyes and let go. Do nothing. Rest in the deepest
 gratitude and authentic respect and just be present.
 Rest in absolute nothingness.it will swallow
 you. 
 
**END**

Yes.  Set up some place in your home where you meditate and fill it 
with the pictures of those saints and heroes in your life who 
inspire you.  Surround yourself with the arrows in your life that 
point you towards who you really are.  So then, everywhere you look, 
there's a great being who's directly pointing at your heart.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Yes.  Set up some place in your home where you meditate and fill it 
 with the pictures of those saints and heroes in your life who 
 inspire you.  Surround yourself with the arrows in your life that 
 point you towards who you really are.  So then, everywhere you look, 
 there's a great being who's directly pointing at your heart.

this is a much more powerful technique than I first realized. I have 
done this from time to time, yet it has overwhelmed me also, sometimes 
simultaneously creating a presence of the saints, and a gulf between 
them (the saints) and me that is unresolvable. Very, very powerful! 

I am currently in a phase where I have taken down my makeshift altar. 
Will probably put it up again sometime. Using the 'television channel' 
instead.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread Llundrub




And/Or, you could do puja to Guru 
Dev.Marek---And/or 
you could do a puja to Shiva.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev

2005-06-09 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason
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 http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3

Paul, 
  If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it
from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in
the source that you made the mp3 file from ? 

Thanks for posting that clip

JohnY




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