[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
  on 8/18/06 9:37 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:


So you¹re saying that the ³context² of the TMO is that you 
 have to
lie to
participate in it, and that she should have abandoned her
principles to get
what she wanted.

Not really- I am saying that she should act as she feels is 
 right
for her, and live with the consequences, whatever they might 
 be.
After all it is she who created the reality that she was 
 denied
access to the domes. Why blame others?
   
  Apparently, she feels right about telling the truth, and then 
 continuing to
  take action when this doesn¹t produce results.
 
  What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to your 
 deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much since 
she 
 is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to meditate in 
 the Dome.


Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say about the 
movement's deservablity that the Invincible America course has been 
such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a simple desire 
as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to meditate 
in the Dome?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ 
wrote:
  
   on 8/18/06 9:37 AM, jim_flanegin at jflanegi@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 , Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
 
 
 So you¹re saying that the ³context² of the TMO is that 
you 
  have to
 lie to
 participate in it, and that she should have abandoned 
her
 principles to get
 what she wanted.
 
 Not really- I am saying that she should act as she feels 
is 
  right
 for her, and live with the consequences, whatever they 
might 
  be.
 After all it is she who created the reality that she was 
  denied
 access to the domes. Why blame others?

   Apparently, she feels right about telling the truth, and then 
  continuing to
   take action when this doesn¹t produce results.
  
   What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to your 
  deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much since 
 she 
  is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to meditate 
in 
  the Dome.
 
 
 Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say about the 
 movement's deservablity that the Invincible America course has 
been 
 such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a simple 
desire 
 as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to 
meditate 
 in the Dome?

I don't think it matters for the Movement per se whether this course 
is a failure or success, so the deservability of the Movement is 
irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in America if the 
Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its strongest. I'm not 
into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou Valentinos predictions 
for 2006. You will find it at : http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
And if you are an american I suggest you get into the Dome as soon 
as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700, Maharishi could say; 
well, at least we tried.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread Peter


--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it
 say about the 
  movement's deservablity that the Invincible
 America course has 
 been 
  such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even
 such a simple 
 desire 
  as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
 Fairfield to 
 meditate 
  in the Dome?
 
 I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
 whether this course 
 is a failure or success, so the deservability of
 the Movement is 
 irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
 America if the 
 Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its
 strongest. I'm not 
 into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
 Valentinos predictions 
 for 2006. You will find it at :
 http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
 And if you are an american I suggest you get into
 the Dome as soon 
 as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
 Maharishi could say; 
 well, at least we tried.

Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
contradiction between individual deservibility and
the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you say
it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
seriously if you dismiss something like this?


 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to your 
   deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much 
since 
  she 
   is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to meditate 
 in 
   the Dome.
  
  
  Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say about the 
  movement's deservablity that the Invincible America course has 
 been 
  such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a simple 
 desire 
  as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to 
 meditate 
  in the Dome?
 
 I don't think it matters for the Movement per se whether this 
course 
 is a failure or success, so the deservability of the Movement is 
 irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in America if the 
 Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its strongest. I'm 
not 
 into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou Valentinos 
predictions 
 for 2006. You will find it at : http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
 And if you are an american I suggest you get into the Dome as soon 
 as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700, Maharishi could say; 
 well, at least we tried.

I disagree. It matters greatly to the TMO whether or not the course 
is a failure or success, or John Hagelin wouldn't be sending out more 
fear-mongering appeals to get people here. Image is everthing to the 
movement. Everything. You are the one who brought up the issue 
of deservability and I say the TMO is getting what they deserve - 
apathy from both their followers and former followers.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
  no_reply@ wrote:
 
   Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it
  say about the 
   movement's deservablity that the Invincible
  America course has 
  been 
   such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even
  such a simple 
  desire 
   as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
  Fairfield to 
  meditate 
   in the Dome?
  
  I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
  whether this course 
  is a failure or success, so the deservability of
  the Movement is 
  irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
  America if the 
  Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its
  strongest. I'm not 
  into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
  Valentinos predictions 
  for 2006. You will find it at :
  http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
  And if you are an american I suggest you get into
  the Dome as soon 
  as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
  Maharishi could say; 
  well, at least we tried.
 
 Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
 contradiction between individual deservibility and
 the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you say
 it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
 seriously if you dismiss something like this?

Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up years ago ? :-)

The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the contrary; they have 
given the CCP's an almost free course and the result of ME has been 
quite good, with the development in the Middle East for example. But 
it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do not understand 
the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700, well then anything 
could happen.

For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans this is a very 
crucial time.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
 wrote:
 
 What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to your 
deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much 
 since 
   she 
is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to 
meditate 
  in 
the Dome.
   
   
   Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say about 
the 
   movement's deservablity that the Invincible America course 
has 
  been 
   such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a simple 
  desire 
   as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to 
  meditate 
   in the Dome?
  
  I don't think it matters for the Movement per se whether this 
 course 
  is a failure or success, so the deservability of the Movement 
is 
  irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in America if the 
  Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its strongest. I'm 
 not 
  into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou Valentinos 
 predictions 
  for 2006. You will find it at : http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
  And if you are an american I suggest you get into the Dome as 
soon 
  as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700, Maharishi could 
say; 
  well, at least we tried.
 
 I disagree. It matters greatly to the TMO whether or not the course 
 is a failure or success, or John Hagelin wouldn't be sending out 
more 
 fear-mongering appeals to get people here. Image is everthing to 
the 
 movement. Everything. You are the one who brought up the issue 
 of deservability and I say the TMO is getting what they deserve - 
 apathy from both their followers and former followers.

Fine. But if there is a huge earthquake in California this year, if 
another storm, stronger than Katrina hits the US, if the causalties 
in Iraq rise dramatically; who will feel the loss - the americans or 
the Movement ?

Somehow I am afraid that the cynisism that has griped so many of you 
have made you out of touch with reality.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread Peter


--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
   no_reply@ wrote:
  
Very interesting point nablus108. And what
 does it
   say about the 
movement's deservablity that the Invincible
   America course has 
   been 
such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill
 even
   such a simple 
   desire 
as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
   Fairfield to 
   meditate 
in the Dome?
   
   I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
   whether this course 
   is a failure or success, so the deservability
 of
   the Movement is 
   irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
   America if the 
   Americans do not respond and the ME is not at
 its
   strongest. I'm not 
   into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
   Valentinos predictions 
   for 2006. You will find it at :
   http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
   And if you are an american I suggest you get
 into
   the Dome as soon 
   as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
   Maharishi could say; 
   well, at least we tried.
  
  Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
  contradiction between individual deservibility
 and
  the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you
 say
  it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
  seriously if you dismiss something like this?
 
 Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up
 years ago ? :-)
 
 The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the
 contrary; they have 
 given the CCP's an almost free course and the result
 of ME has been 
 quite good, with the development in the Middle East
 for example. But 
 it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do
 not understand 
 the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700,
 well then anything 
 could happen.
 
 For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans
 this is a very 
 crucial time.

I assure you, the numbers in the domes have zero
impact on what is happening in the Middle East. This
is MMY's fantasy only. All his intervntion progams
have absolutely failed but the TMO has a very short
memory.





 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
  wrote:
  
  What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to 
your 
 deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not much 
  since 
she 
 is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to 
 meditate 
   in 
 the Dome.


Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say about 
 the 
movement's deservablity that the Invincible America course 
 has 
   been 
such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a simple 
   desire 
as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to 
   meditate 
in the Dome?
   
   I don't think it matters for the Movement per se whether this 
  course 
   is a failure or success, so the deservability of the Movement 
 is 
   irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in America if the 
   Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its strongest. 
I'm 
  not 
   into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou Valentinos 
  predictions 
   for 2006. You will find it at : http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
   And if you are an american I suggest you get into the Dome as 
 soon 
   as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700, Maharishi could 
 say; 
   well, at least we tried.
  
  I disagree. It matters greatly to the TMO whether or not the 
course 
  is a failure or success, or John Hagelin wouldn't be sending out 
 more 
  fear-mongering appeals to get people here. Image is everthing to 
 the 
  movement. Everything. You are the one who brought up the issue 
  of deservability and I say the TMO is getting what they 
deserve - 
  apathy from both their followers and former followers.
 
 Fine. But if there is a huge earthquake in California this year, if 
 another storm, stronger than Katrina hits the US, if the causalties 
 in Iraq rise dramatically; who will feel the loss - the americans 
or 
 the Movement ?
 
 Somehow I am afraid that the cynisism that has griped so many of 
you 
 have made you out of touch with reality.

Re: But if there is a huge earthquake in California this year, if 
 another storm, stronger than Katrina hits the US, if the causalties 
 in Iraq rise dramatically.

I though you said you were not into spreading fear? BTW, the 
casualities in Iraq HAVE been rising dramatically. Haven't you been 
watching the news? I guess everyone is consumed by the JonBenet story.

Re: out of touch with reality

Sorry, but I think it is you who is out of touch with reality if you 
believe that the dome numbers have any type of an effect on what 
happens in the US, let alone the world.

There is a naturally occurring ebb and flow of life on earth and it 
has nothing to do with the number of people sitting in a dome out in 
fly-over country. You put way too much self importance on yourself 
and the TMO.

And I am now on my way out the door and on my way to the beach for a 
week of much-deserved vacation. Aaaahhh... Can't wait to feel those 
waves lickin' my toes. Now *that* will be a blissful experience and 
make me happy and that happiness will spread to other people and make 
the world a better place. Or am I out of touch with reality? :-)





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
   drpetersutphen@ 
   wrote:
   


--- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
 no_reply@ wrote:

  Very interesting point nablus108. And what
   does it
 say about the 
  movement's deservablity that the Invincible
 America course has 
 been 
  such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill
   even
 such a simple 
 desire 
  as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
 Fairfield to 
 meditate 
  in the Dome?
 
 I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
 whether this course 
 is a failure or success, so the deservability
   of
 the Movement is 
 irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
 America if the 
 Americans do not respond and the ME is not at
   its
 strongest. I'm not 
 into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
 Valentinos predictions 
 for 2006. You will find it at :
 http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
 And if you are an american I suggest you get
   into
 the Dome as soon 
 as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
 Maharishi could say; 
 well, at least we tried.

Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
contradiction between individual deservibility
   and
the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you
   say
it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
seriously if you dismiss something like this?
   
   Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up
   years ago ? :-)
   
   The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the
   contrary; they have 
   given the CCP's an almost free course and the result
   of ME has been 
   quite good, with the development in the Middle East
   for example. But 
   it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do
   not understand 
   the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700,
   well then anything 
   could happen.
   
   For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans
   this is a very 
   crucial time.
  
  I assure you, the numbers in the domes have zero
  impact on what is happening in the Middle East. This
  is MMY's fantasy only. All his intervntion progams
  have absolutely failed but the TMO has a very short
  memory.
 
 Mention one - 1 - that failed


Here's one: Nutcase cultist creeps like yourself are still part of 
the Movement.

Nablus, let me ask you something.  Why on Earth are you 
participating on this forum?  Do you think you are going to convert 
us?  Make us see the light?

May I suggest that the reason you are here is that you yourself have 
doubts about the TMO and MMY?  Why else would you be putting 
yourself through this?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
drpetersutphen@ 
wrote:

 
 
 --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
  no_reply@ wrote:
 
   Very interesting point nablus108. And what
does it
  say about the 
   movement's deservablity that the Invincible
  America course has 
  been 
   such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill
even
  such a simple 
  desire 
   as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
  Fairfield to 
  meditate 
   in the Dome?
  
  I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
  whether this course 
  is a failure or success, so the deservability
of
  the Movement is 
  irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
  America if the 
  Americans do not respond and the ME is not at
its
  strongest. I'm not 
  into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
  Valentinos predictions 
  for 2006. You will find it at :
  http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
  And if you are an american I suggest you get
into
  the Dome as soon 
  as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
  Maharishi could say; 
  well, at least we tried.
 
 Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
 contradiction between individual deservibility
and
 the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you
say
 it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
 seriously if you dismiss something like this?

Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up
years ago ? :-)

The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the
contrary; they have 
given the CCP's an almost free course and the result
of ME has been 
quite good, with the development in the Middle East
for example. But 
it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do
not understand 
the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700,
well then anything 
could happen.

For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans
this is a very 
crucial time.
   
   I assure you, the numbers in the domes have zero
   impact on what is happening in the Middle East. This
   is MMY's fantasy only. All his intervntion progams
   have absolutely failed but the TMO has a very short
   memory.
  
  Mention one - 1 - that failed
 
 
 Here's one: Nutcase cultist creeps like yourself are still part of 
 the Movement.
 
 Nablus, let me ask you something.  Why on Earth are you 
 participating on this forum?  Do you think you are going to convert 
 us?  Make us see the light?
 
 May I suggest that the reason you are here is that you yourself 
have 
 doubts about the TMO and MMY?  Why else would you be putting 
 yourself through this?

With all due respect; might I suggest that you are a fool ?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
   wrote:
   


--- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
   no_reply@ wrote:
  
Very interesting point nablus108. And what
 does it
   say about the 
movement's deservablity that the Invincible
   America course has 
   been 
such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill
 even
   such a simple 
   desire 
as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
   Fairfield to 
   meditate 
in the Dome?
   
   I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
   whether this course 
   is a failure or success, so the deservability
 of
   the Movement is 
   irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
   America if the 
   Americans do not respond and the ME is not at
 its
   strongest. I'm not 
   into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
   Valentinos predictions 
   for 2006. You will find it at :
   http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
   And if you are an american I suggest you get
 into
   the Dome as soon 
   as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
   Maharishi could say; 
   well, at least we tried.
  
  Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
  contradiction between individual deservibility
 and
  the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you
 say
  it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
  seriously if you dismiss something like this?
 
 Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up
 years ago ? :-)
 
 The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the
 contrary; they have 
 given the CCP's an almost free course and the result
 of ME has been 
 quite good, with the development in the Middle East
 for example. But 
 it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do
 not understand 
 the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700,
 well then anything 
 could happen.
 
 For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans
 this is a very 
 crucial time.

I assure you, the numbers in the domes have zero
impact on what is happening in the Middle East. This
is MMY's fantasy only. All his intervntion progams
have absolutely failed but the TMO has a very short
memory.
   
   Mention one - 1 - that failed
  
  
  Here's one: Nutcase cultist creeps like yourself are still part 
of 
  the Movement.
  
  Nablus, let me ask you something.  Why on Earth are you 
  participating on this forum?  Do you think you are going to 
convert 
  us?  Make us see the light?
  
  May I suggest that the reason you are here is that you yourself 
 have 
  doubts about the TMO and MMY?  Why else would you be putting 
  yourself through this?
 
 With all due respect; might I suggest that you are a fool ?


I very well may be.

But this fool is participating on the same forum as you.

So, again, I ask you: why are you here?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- nablus108 nablus108@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120
   no_reply@ wrote:
  
Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it
   say about the 
movement's deservablity that the Invincible
   America course has 
   been 
such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even
   such a simple 
   desire 
as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to
   Fairfield to 
   meditate 
in the Dome?
   
   I don't think it matters for the Movement per se
   whether this course 
   is a failure or success, so the deservability of
   the Movement is 
   irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in
   America if the 
   Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its
   strongest. I'm not 
   into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou
   Valentinos predictions 
   for 2006. You will find it at :
   http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
   And if you are an american I suggest you get into
   the Dome as soon 
   as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700,
   Maharishi could say; 
   well, at least we tried.
  
  Nablus, you crack me up. Someone points out the
  contradiction between individual deservibility and
  the TMO's utter deservibility failure and you say
  it's irrelevant? How do you expect to be taken
  seriously if you dismiss something like this?
 
 Eh.. you are suggesting that you did not crack up years ago ? :-)
 
 The TMO has not failed in this respect. Quite the contrary; they have 
 given the CCP's an almost free course and the result of ME has been 
 quite good, with the development in the Middle East for example. But 
 it is a very fragile situation; if the americans do not understand 
 the seriousness of the situation and gather 1700, well then anything 
 could happen.
 
 For the TMO nothing is at stake. For the americans this is a very 
 crucial time.



 An 'almost free' course? I thought someone(s) else were paying for
it.  The TMO has had the resourses to have 1700 for a long long time. 
Enough said. 

JohnY






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi and his methods - deservability

2006-08-18 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ 
   wrote:
   
   What does running aroung to all sorts of saints do to 
 your 
  deserving ability, your consciousness. Apparently not 
much 
   since 
 she 
  is not able to fulfill even such a simple desire as to 
  meditate 
in 
  the Dome.
 
 
 Very interesting point nablus108. And what does it say 
about 
  the 
 movement's deservablity that the Invincible America 
course 
  has 
been 
 such an utter failure -- unable to fulfill even such a 
simple 
desire 
 as to bring even a measely thousand sidhas to Fairfield to 
meditate 
 in the Dome?

I don't think it matters for the Movement per se whether this 
   course 
is a failure or success, so the deservability of the 
Movement 
  is 
irrelevant. What matters is what could happen in America if 
the 
Americans do not respond and the ME is not at its strongest. 
 I'm 
   not 
into spreading fear, but suggest you read Lou Valentinos 
   predictions 
for 2006. You will find it at : 
http://www.yogavisionaries.com 
And if you are an american I suggest you get into the Dome as 
  soon 
as possible. If the numbers do not reach 1700, Maharishi 
could 
  say; 
well, at least we tried.
   
   I disagree. It matters greatly to the TMO whether or not the 
 course 
   is a failure or success, or John Hagelin wouldn't be sending 
out 
  more 
   fear-mongering appeals to get people here. Image is everthing 
to 
  the 
   movement. Everything. You are the one who brought up the issue 
   of deservability and I say the TMO is getting what they 
 deserve - 
   apathy from both their followers and former followers.
  
  Fine. But if there is a huge earthquake in California this year, 
if 
  another storm, stronger than Katrina hits the US, if the 
causalties 
  in Iraq rise dramatically; who will feel the loss - the americans 
 or 
  the Movement ?
  
  Somehow I am afraid that the cynisism that has griped so many of 
 you 
  have made you out of touch with reality.
 
 Re: But if there is a huge earthquake in California this year, if 
  another storm, stronger than Katrina hits the US, if the 
causalties 
  in Iraq rise dramatically.
 
 I though you said you were not into spreading fear? BTW, the 
 casualities in Iraq HAVE been rising dramatically. Haven't you been 
 watching the news? I guess everyone is consumed by the JonBenet 
story.
 
 Re: out of touch with reality
 
 Sorry, but I think it is you who is out of touch with reality if 
you 
 believe that the dome numbers have any type of an effect on what 
 happens in the US, let alone the world.
 
 There is a naturally occurring ebb and flow of life on earth

Agreed !

 and it 
 has nothing to do with the number of people sitting in a dome out 
in 
 fly-over country.

Disagreed !

 You put way too much self importance on yourself 
 and the TMO.

I am not the one, at this point, to reap the results of lazy 
americans not wanting to meditate. You are.
 
 And I am now on my way out the door and on my way to the beach for 
a 
 week of much-deserved vacation. Aaaahhh... Can't wait to feel those 
 waves lickin' my toes. Now *that* will be a blissful experience and 
 make me happy and that happiness will spread to other people and 
make 
 the world a better place. Or am I out of touch with reality? :-)

Yes you are. Lets hope you have a beach to enjoy by this time next 
year. :-)





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