[FairfieldLife] Re: More Balanced Views?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: bodies > will show up." But bodies float for days after death. They don't sink. Bodies sink first, rot and fill with gas then float. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Balanced Views?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/6/05 11:51 PM, Cliff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Here's a Guardian article that points out the very real > > possibility that many (if not all) the reports of murders, rapes > > and armed gangs were created by rumor and a press craving disaster > > in alll its flavors. I also find it interesting that even the > > Mayor is claiming 10,000 dead, but so far only a few hundred > > bodies have been found. The articles on bodies all say things > > like, "Just wait until all the waters recede - then the bodies > > will show up." But bodies float for days after death. They don't > > sink. > > Unless they're stuck in attics. WRT rapes and armed gangs, in an article in the New York Times about Oprah Winfrey's show taped in New Orleans on Sunday and aired Tuesday, in her interview with the New Orleans police chief, he "told of rapes inside the Superdome and an attempt by gang members to take him hostage as he toured the building." So my earlier speculation that the NO police want to minimize reports of violence is no longer operative, if the police chief himself is talking about rapes and gangs on national television. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Balanced Views?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Here's a Guardian article that points out the very real possibility > that > > many (if not all) the reports of murders, rapes and armed gangs > were > > created by rumor and a press craving disaster in alll its flavors. > I also find > > it interesting that even the Mayor is claiming 10,000 dead, but so > far > > only a few hundred bodies have been found. The articles on bodies > all > > say things like, "Just wait until all the waters recede - then the > bodies > > will show up." But bodies float for days after death. They don't > sink. > > > > Most people were rescued from rooftops, not water. Many couldn't get > onto the roof from their attics. My projection from early on has been > 10,000 to 100,000 dead. I seem to be in the ballpark: > > > http://www.t-g.com/story/1116806.html > > Funeral director deploys to hurricane region > Tuesday, September 6, 2005 > By Clint Confehr > > A co-owner of Shelbyville-based Gowen-Smith Chapel has been deployed > to Gulfport, Miss., to help with recovery since Hurricane Katrina, > and his business partner here has described the grim task there. > "DMort is telling us to expect up to 40,000 bodies," Dan Buckner > said, quoting officials with the Disaster Mortuary Operational > Response Team, a volunteer arm of Homeland Security. I think this may be from all over the area, not just New Orleans. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Balanced Views?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a Guardian article that points out the very real possibility > that many (if not all) the reports of murders, rapes and armed > gangs were created by rumor and a press craving disaster in alll > its flavors. The idea that they may never have happened because nobody has come forward to substantiate them is itself pretty dubious. These people were likely too busy trying to stay alive, and then attempting to get out of the city, to track down a policeman, if they could even have found one who had the time to take their report. The police force in New Orleans is in significant disarray at the moment. A lot of them have apparently walked off the job, because the stress was too great, or they needed to see to the safety of their own families. Some apparently drowned in the flood in their homes. Morale is rock-bottom. Two officers have committed suicide. They may not be feeling like confirming anything that they could be blamed for. I saw a segment on CNN this evening in which a woman who had been in the Superdome for four days gave an account of being terrorized at night--in the pitch black--by gangs of young men. And it's not clear when the Guardian looked for bodies in the Convention Center, or where. Some of the bodies have been removed, but one reporter was allowed to look in the "cooler," or what would have been a cooler if there had been power, where some 30 bodies had been stashed because the door could be closed on them to contain the stench. > I also find it interesting that even the Mayor is > claiming 10,000 dead, but so far only a few hundred bodies have > been found. The articles on bodies all say things like, "Just wait > until all the waters recede - then the bodies will show up." But > bodies float for days after death. They don't sink. I think they're referring to the bodies of people trapped and drowned in the houses that are still under water. And it's not that only a few hundred bodies have been *found*; it's that only a few hundred bodies have been found, taken to the morgue, and *counted*. Let's hope the mayor is wrong, but we really have no way of knowing yet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Balanced Views?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a Guardian article that points out the very real possibility that > many (if not all) the reports of murders, rapes and armed gangs were > created by rumor and a press craving disaster in alll its flavors. I also find > it interesting that even the Mayor is claiming 10,000 dead, but so far > only a few hundred bodies have been found. The articles on bodies all > say things like, "Just wait until all the waters recede - then the bodies > will show up." But bodies float for days after death. They don't sink. > Most people were rescued from rooftops, not water. Many couldn't get onto the roof from their attics. My projection from early on has been 10,000 to 100,000 dead. I seem to be in the ballpark: http://www.t-g.com/story/1116806.html Funeral director deploys to hurricane region Tuesday, September 6, 2005 By Clint Confehr A co-owner of Shelbyville-based Gowen-Smith Chapel has been deployed to Gulfport, Miss., to help with recovery since Hurricane Katrina, and his business partner here has described the grim task there. "DMort is telling us to expect up to 40,000 bodies," Dan Buckner said, quoting officials with the Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team, a volunteer arm of Homeland Security. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
