[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvikalpa Samadhi...the highest samadhi!

2006-10-13 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

snip
> However, as you note, it ripens into GC, or seen another way, 
> integrates fully with all relative existence as seen from the CC 
> perspective, becoming GC. 

Correct
 
> Then as the fullness deepens once again, its relative component is 
> seen to be multiple GCs so to speak, which could be called UC, or a 
> ripening or fulfillment of GC. This then is no longer dependent on 
> the Jivan-mukta, or seen another way, the Jivan-mukta is redefined 
> as being larger than it was before- sort of infinity becoming more 
> infinite.

I think the Buddhists refer to this as the great *Maha para Nirvana*, 
a Yogi cannot sustain it and still be in a human body
 
> So each higher state of consciousness is the fulfillment of the 
> prior one.

Yes, and my point was that from the  human beings perspective and 
MMY's teachings and all the great teachings regarding this matter, CC 
is the highest state a human can achieve which finds its 
*fulfillment* in GC. Beyond that...well, as Charlie Lutes use to say 
it's 'unknowable'. (Till you get there)




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Nirvikalpa Samadhi...the highest samadhi!

2006-10-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> OM..purnam adah, purnam idam, (inner and outer fullness). In the 
book
> Love and God, (page 5) MMY relates that  Guru Dev is in the highest
> Sahaja-samadhi. This IS the God Consciousness referred to by MMY.
> 
> When your *Samadhi* experience *embodies* the fullness of the
> relative... Eureka, you have reached the fulfillment of the first
> glimpse of transcendental pure consciousness  or Savikalpa Samadhi
> (temporay Samadhi,Gita CHIV vs42).
> 
> It is important to note that 'God Consciousness' referred to by 
MMY in
> his Bhagavad Gita is NOT a 'higher' state of consciousness but the
> *fulfillment* of Cosmic Consciousness!! The operative word here 
being
> *fulfillment*!
> 
> I, personally have always been confused about this sequential
> development, confusing GC with a state above CC which is a 
mistake, it
> is merely the fulfillment of CC! The highest state of 
consciousness a
> Yogi can obtain is Cosmic Consciousness! Purnam adah, purnam idam! 
JGD
> 
> 
> 
> P.S Though there are states beyond CC, MMY does not speak of them, 
per
> se!.he perhaps refers to them in the catch all phrase 
*Unity*.
>
What you are saying certainly makes sense with regard to Maharishi's 
use of the term Cosmic Consciousness in the Gita as the supreme 
state of consciousness. Perhaps because CC is the highest achievable 
state by the Jivan-mukta alone, the individuated consciousness. 

However, as you note, it ripens into GC, or seen another way, 
integrates fully with all relative existence as seen from the CC 
perspective, becoming GC. 

Then as the fullness deepens once again, its relative component is 
seen to be multiple GCs so to speak, which could be called UC, or a 
ripening or fulfillment of GC. This then is no longer dependent on 
the Jivan-mukta, or seen another way, the Jivan-mukta is redefined 
as being larger than it was before- sort of infinity becoming more 
infinite.

So each higher state of consciousness is the fulfillment of the 
prior one.




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