[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion > in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups. > The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more > terrorism. > The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; > how sad. > *** How droll. The U.S. gives Israel billions every year so they can buy the most advanced weapons in order to suppress the Palestinians, and that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of cost to U.S. citizens: http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" wrote: > > > > Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion > > in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups. > > The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more > > terrorism. > > The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; > > how sad. > > > > So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the money we give THEM? If you > don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead give money, every cent you > give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount. > yes, under the circumstances Israel needs to put some money in order to defend itself. It's military had significant budgets cuts. Seeing the situation today, I'm not sure it was a smart move. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 7/12/06 9:48:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > nablus108@ writes: > > > > The Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis > > will have their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically > > thieves, on radically less square miles than today. > > > > > > > > The problem is the Palestinian people believe and teach their young that all > > of Israel is their rightful land and the Jews have absolutely no business > > there. It's all or nothing for them.< Those thieving Jews, hmmm, where have we > > heard that before? > > > > You think that many Israelis don't teach their kids the same thing? Dare I mention that > international city, Jerusalem? that Israel is their rightful land, yes, and it is! (and also to share) but not to be a terrorist and glorify death and murder as 'expert' Palestinians. >The USA STILL won't move its embassy there and the Israelis > have claimed it as their capital for how long now? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion > in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups. > The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more > terrorism. > The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; > how sad. > So you think the Israelis haven't built more weapons with the money we give THEM? If you don't give food-items or medical items to a country, but instead give money, every cent you give can be counted as military expenditures up to the full amount. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
Over the past decade, the United States has given about $1.5 billion in aid to the Palestinians, mostly through aid groups. The only thing Palestinians did with the money is funding more terrorism. The Palestinian's thirst for blood overpass any rational thinking; how sad. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "kabbalist1" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ( with regard to nablus108 ). > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly > > > > lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose > > > terrible > > > > leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible > > > > murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > > > > > > > > > > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8 > > > > > > > > >> Aggression Under False Pretenses > > > > > > > > > > > > The aggression comes from the Palestinians side, > > > > To remind you, or to tell you, since you conveniently left > > out, > > > that Palestinians murdered of 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri two and > a > > > half weeks ago. > > > > Including that Hamas terrorists firing rockets and mortar > > bombs > > > for weeks. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of > > > Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday > > > morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was > > wounded, > > > Israel officials said. > > > > > > > > Now, what would you think, USA will do (or any other country > > for > > > that matter) if, let's say Mexico, will be constantly shooting > > > rockets on USA cities and civilians. I'm just curious to know, > how > > > USA will react in your opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? > > > cid=1150885975162&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull > > > > > > > > > > > > so, there is more to it than one soldier as Haniyeh is > falsely > > > trying to paint. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Palestine is occupied by Israel, the land has been annected. They > > > are at war. > > > > The other way around. > > It's always "the other way around" for the israelis. > > Their logic is twisted and evil. > > What you do not see is that Israel is fighting a lost war. When the > americans no longer are willing to pay for your criminal ways, and > this could happen fast, Israel will have to change it's militant and > aggressive attitude towards it's neighbours. > The Palestinians will have their rightfull land, and the israelis > will have their rightfull safety, albeit, since they are basically > thieves, on radically less square miles than today. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter > wrote: > > > > > > > > bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter > > wrote: > > > > > > ( with regard to nablus108 ). > > > > > > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly > > lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose > terrible > > leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible > > murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > > > > > > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for you. > > > > > > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8 > > > > >> Aggression Under False Pretenses > > > > > > The aggression comes from the Palestinians side, > > To remind you, or to tell you, since you conveniently left out, > that Palestinians murdered of 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri two and a > half weeks ago. > > Including that Hamas terrorists firing rockets and mortar bombs > for weeks. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of > Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday > morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was wounded, > Israel officials said. > > > > Now, what would you think, USA will do (or any other country for > that matter) if, let's say Mexico, will be constantly shooting > rockets on USA cities and civilians. I'm just curious to know, how > USA will react in your opinion. > > > > > > http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? > cid=1150885975162&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull > > > > > > so, there is more to it than one soldier as Haniyeh is falsely > trying to paint. > > > > > > > > > Palestine is occupied by Israel, the land has been annected. They > are at war. The other way around. > This discussion is out of proportion. and it looks like you are expanding it :). Looks like Islam and Muslims are hijacked by it's own religious people. here is an interesting article, http://tinyurl.com/zsyph An Explosive Fatwa Is Issued in Egypt, As Wave of Edicts Grows in the War By YOUSSEF IBRAHIM - Special to the Sun April 11, 2006 The effervescent satellite network Al Jazeera put its spotlight last week on the maddening world of fatwas, those Islamic religious edicts riling the lives of believers and nonbelievers from one end of the world to the other. Remember, September 11 was the result of a fatwa by Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahri, and assorted other so- called Muslim scholars decreeing a pact to fight "Crusaders and Jews." Ever since this momentous attack on America, Islamic fatwas multiplied. Many simply dictate lifestyle choices for Muslims. Others, however, tell them to wage jihad against various ills and targets, in the name of Allah. When originating with a weighty source, a fatwa can be deadly. Among the wave of fatwas already out there, some authorize suicide bombings, forbid participation in voting or elections by Muslims living in the West, void marriage between spouses who practice intercourse in the nude (this one from Egypt), and ban the exchange of seasons' greetings between Muslims and nonbelievers, to cite a few. Frivolous fatwas have affected people's lifestyles and mind-sets, including a ruling against the Arab version of "Who Wants To Be a Millionaire," forbidden by Islam as a form of gambling; a fatwa banning beauty pageants in front of panels of male judges; one demanding that male soccer players wear long trousers to hide their skin; a ban on watching solar eclipses, and another against bullfights. Interestingly, no fatwas were ever issued banning female circumcision. This past week, Al Jazeera carried a most explosive one: an edict from Egypt's highest Islamic jurist, Sheik Ali Gomaa, decreeing that the exhibition of any statues is sinful, as is sculpture and those who practice it - going all the way back to Pharaonic temples, Greek and Roman sculptures, and Christian images spanning several centuries, ever since the dawn of history. Should we prep for a Taliban-style orgy in Egypt? Melting gold statues of King Tut (Tutankhamen is his full name); smashing Cleopatra images; dynamiting the magnificent temples of Karnak; blowing up the Valleys of the Kings and Queens in Luxor; bulldozing the majestic Fila temple; burning Roman, Greek, and early Christian icons, and sacking treasures of civilization in Egyptian museums up and down the Nile Valley? Sheik Gomaa is no lightweight. To many believers, his words are tantamount to marching orders. He was appointed grand mufti (jurisprudent) by none other than Egypt's president, Hosni Mubarak. Several weighty religious figures rushed to his support. Left standing, this fatwa is a declaration of war, more so as it has been endorsed by the most towering Muslim religious figure a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter > wrote: > > > > ( with regard to nablus108 ). > > > > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly > lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose terrible > leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible > murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > > > > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for you. > > > > >>http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8 > > >> Aggression Under False Pretenses > > > The aggression comes from the Palestinians side, > To remind you, or to tell you, since you conveniently left out, that Palestinians murdered of 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri two and a half weeks ago. > Including that Hamas terrorists firing rockets and mortar bombs for weeks. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was wounded, Israel officials said. > > Now, what would you think, USA will do (or any other country for that matter) if, let's say Mexico, will be constantly shooting rockets on USA cities and civilians. I'm just curious to know, how USA will react in your opinion. > > > http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? cid=1150885975162&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull > > > so, there is more to it than one soldier as Haniyeh is falsely trying to paint. > > > > Palestine is occupied by Israel, the land has been annected. They are at war. This discussion is out of proportion. When european contries was occupied by the nazis, it was seen as completely legimate to kill the occupying forces. The Israeli actions are condemned by the large majority of the nations in the world, which you, conveniently, left out. Only the americans continue to support and fund them. Thats why the USA is a major part of this vast problem, and it also largely explains the hatred directed against the americans from the Muslim world. I will never, never forget what Maharishi said in Boppard in 1982: "Why dont't they stop bombing the Palestinian villages... and all that." It adresses directly the key element of this tragedy. Master's article: Aiding the cause of peace by the Master , through Benjamin Creme It is frequently the case that, in acting for what is seen by them as the good of the world, countries wreak havoc on a world scale. So dense are the fogs of glamour which surround their actions, so illusory is their thinking, that great harm may be done, and much pain and suffering caused, for the best of reasons. Thus it is today. In recent times, the USA, under the banner of `the war against terrorism', has invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, causing thousands of civilian deaths and great physical damage to their infrastructures. The Taliban, fanatical and rigid but, in the main, uninvolved in terrorism, are dispersed but are now regrouping, training in the skills of terror. In Iraq, Saddam Hussein is no more, but a terrible legacy of deprivation and suffering, lawlessness and chaos, has replaced his baleful regime. Now the attention of the US administration has turned to Syria, Iran and North Korea; they are warned to change or face the wrath and might of the upholders of `peace', and the champions of `liberty' in the world. Thus does America plunge the world into the atmosphere of stress and fear, and thus do these give fruit to epidemics and natural disasters, which, in turn, serve to increase the fear and stress. Dangerous What can be done to stabilize this dangerous situation? How can the nations keep America in check? By what means can ordinary people bring their weight to bear? These are large questions and have, indeed, no simple answers. They require wisdom of an exceptional order and a co-ordinated approach. Firstly, the world must realize the true nature of the problem: the USA today is led by men responsive to a nefarious energy which prompts their actions and puts peace in jeopardy. It stimulates their glamour for power of an international extent, and threatens the peace of the world. It has outposts in Israel and Eastern Europe, Israel being the major focus. This destructive energy derives, though in diminished potency, from that which plunged the world into chaotic war during the twentieth century and which, men thought, was safely put to rest. It can be seen, therefore, how necessary it is that there be peace in the Middle East; how necessary it is that the Palestinians have true justice and a viable homeland. This is the most important problem facing men today. Failure to solve it would be disastrous for the world. Overcome It will take the combined resources of wisdom and will
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter ...> wrote:>> ( with regard to nablus108 ).> > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose terrible leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for you.>>http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8>> Aggression Under False Pretenses The aggression comes from the Palestinians side, To remind you, or to tell you, since you conveniently left out, that Palestinians murdered of 18-year-old Eliyahu Asheri two and a half weeks ago. Including that Hamas terrorists firing rockets and mortar bombs for weeks. Some of the rockets fell near the Israel city of Ashkelon. Some 17 rockets were fired between Saturday and Sunday morning. A man at a school in the Israel town of Sderot was wounded, Israel officials said. Now, what would you think, USA will do (or any other country for that matter) if, let's say Mexico, will be constantly shooting rockets on USA cities and civilians. I'm just curious to know, how USA will react in your opinion. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885975162&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull so, there is more to it than one soldier as Haniyeh is falsely trying to paint. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ( with regard to nablus108 ). > > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose terrible leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for you. http://tinyurl.com/qxtq8 Aggression Under False Pretenses By Ismail Haniyeh Tuesday, July 11, 2006; Page A17 Washington Post GAZA, Palestine -- As Americans commemorated their annual celebration of independence from colonial occupation, rejoicing in their democratic institutions, we Palestinians were yet again besieged by our occupiers, who destroy our roads and buildings, our power stations and water plants, and who attack our very means of civil administration. Our homes and government offices are shelled, our parliamentarians taken prisoner and threatened with prosecution. The current Gaza invasion is only the latest effort to destroy the results of fair and free elections held early this year. It is the explosive follow-up to a five-month campaign of economic and diplomatic warfare directed by the United States and Israel. The stated intention of that strategy was to force the average Palestinian to "reconsider" her vote when faced with deepening hardship; its failure was predictable, and the new overt military aggression and collective punishment are its logical fulfillment. The "kidnapped" Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago. In addition to removing our democratically elected government, Israel wants to sow dissent among Palestinians by claiming that there is a serious leadership rivalry among us. I am compelled to dispel this notion definitively. The Palestinian leadership is firmly embedded in the concept of Islamic shura , or mutual consultation; suffice it to say that while we may have differing opinions, we are united in mutual respect and focused on the goal of serving our people. Furthermore, the invasion of Gaza and the kidnapping of our leaders and government officials are meant to undermine the recent accords reached between the government party and our brothers and sisters in Fatah and other factions, on achieving consensus for resolving the conflict. Yet Israeli collective punishment only strengthens our collective resolve to work together. As I inspect the ruins of our infrastructure -- the largess of donor nations and international efforts all turned to rubble once more by F-16s and American-made missiles -- my thoughts again turn to the minds of Americans. What do they think of this? They think, doubtless, of the hostage soldier, taken in battle -- yet thousands of Palestinians, including hundreds of women and children, remain in Israeli jails for resisting the illegal, ongoing occupation that is condemned by international law. They think of the pluck and "toughness" of Israel, "standing up" to "terrorists." Yet a nuclear Israel possesses the 13th-largest military force on the planet, one that is used to rule an area about the size of New Jersey and whose adversaries there have no conventional armed forces. Who is the underdog, supposedly America's traditional favorite, in this case? I hope that Americans will give careful and well-informed thought to root causes and historical realities, in which case I think they will question why a supposedly "legitimate" state such as Israel has had to conduct decades of war against a subject refugee population without ever achieving its goals. Israel's unilateral movements of the past year will not lead to peace. These acts -- the temporary withdrawal of forces from Gaza, the walling off of the West Bank -- are not strides toward resolution but empty, symbolic acts that fail to address the underlying conflict. Israel's nearly complete control over the lives of Palestinians is never in doubt, as confirmed by the humanitarian and economic suffering of the Palestinians since the January elections. Israel's ongoing policies of expansion, military control and assassination mock any notion of sovereignty or bilateralism. Its "separation barrier," running across our land, is hardly a good- faith gesture toward future coexistence. But there is a remedy, and while it is not easy it is consistent with our long-held beliefs. Palestinian priorities include recognition of the core dispute over the land of historical Palestine and the rights of all its people; resolution of the refugee issue from 1948; reclaiming all lands occupied in 1967; and stopping Israeli attacks, assassinations and military expansion. Contrary to popular depictions of the crisis in the American media, the dispute is not only about Gaza and the West Bank; it is a wider national conflict that can be resolved on
[FairfieldLife] Re: Palestinians & terrorism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Larry Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ( with regard to nablus108 ). > > I'm sorry to say that since the intafadah began I have uterly lost any respect for Palestinians as a nation. They choose terrible leaders and support terrible policies. They glorify terrible murderers who celebrate in killing Israeli women and children. > I am sad to say to you Palistinians, I have no sympathy for you. * http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/07/11/gaza/index_np.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
