[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction - Now Peace Fund $$$

2005-08-26 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Valued by whom?  Assets, unless they are cash or readily
 tradeable stocks or bonds, are subject to remarkably wide
 ranges of valuation.  Something which an auditor might claim
 to be worth $187 million might, if push came to shove, be worth
 only $5 million.  I've seen Movement valuations in the past that were
 based on what donors said their stock donations in privately held,
 lying-through-their-teeth-financial-statment companies were
 worth.
 
 Ultimately, something is only worth what someone else is
 willing to pay for it.  And I would bet considerable amounts of money
 that the assets in the World Peace Fund weren't worth anything close
 to a real $187 million.

That was definitely true in 1999 when the Fund was valued at close to
$600 million and it looks like over $200 million of that was
GlobalLink stock which was probably already worthless by then.  

In 2003 there was some cash and stock in the Fund, but it was almost
all real estate.  My guess is all the hotels that the tmo has been
selling lately were in there - have no idea if the market price is
close to what was on the books.

PS.  It seems Hartnett made out OK in his dealings with the mov't. 
Got huge tax write-offs for donating essentially worthless stock and
got out of his big mortgage on the headquarters building by selling it
to the tmo for a million dollars when no-one else was interested --
the tmo raising the money from local donations under the ruse it was
for King Tony who come here to live, bringing some sort of divine
vedic rulership with him -- how is it the donors keep forgetting so
easily the grand schemes for which their $$ went?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction - Now Peace Fund $$$

2005-08-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Valued by whom?  Assets, unless they are cash or readily
  tradeable stocks or bonds, are subject to remarkably wide
  ranges of valuation.  Something which an auditor might claim
  to be worth $187 million might, if push came to shove, be worth
  only $5 million.  I've seen Movement valuations in the past that 
were
  based on what donors said their stock donations in privately 
held,
  lying-through-their-teeth-financial-statment companies were
  worth.
  
  Ultimately, something is only worth what someone else is
  willing to pay for it.  And I would bet considerable amounts of 
money
  that the assets in the World Peace Fund weren't worth anything 
close
  to a real $187 million.
 
 That was definitely true in 1999 when the Fund was valued at close 
to
 $600 million and it looks like over $200 million of that was
 GlobalLink stock which was probably already worthless by then.  
 
 In 2003 there was some cash and stock in the Fund, but it was 
almost
 all real estate.  My guess is all the hotels that the tmo has been
 selling lately were in there - have no idea if the market price is
 close to what was on the books.
 
 PS.  It seems Hartnett made out OK in his dealings with the mov't. 
 Got huge tax write-offs for donating essentially worthless stock 
and
 got out of his big mortgage on the headquarters building by 
selling it
 to the tmo for a million dollars when no-one else was interested --
 the tmo raising the money from local donations under the ruse it 
was
 for King Tony who come here to live, bringing some sort of divine
 vedic rulership with him -- how is it the donors keep forgetting so
 easily the grand schemes for which their $$ went?

Like big donors to the Catholic Church, they probably think they're 
buying a ticket into heaven.

That's what we've come to...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Prediction - Now Peace Fund $$$

2005-08-26 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I think the mansion was owned by a couple from Austin who had bought 
it from
 Hartnett. I think their names were Greg and Marilyn Karnezi or 
something
 like that.

There was/is(?) a Dr. named Greg Karnezi in Austin.




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