[FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Well, we won't put Turqb up for no medal of honor citation now for running away, but I'd be first to give him a special award for coming back to meditation with us. I'd even give him a peck on the check like those Parisians he is so fond of do in the movies. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name Sort of like you calling Freddy Lenz 'Vishnu, Lord of the World'? LoL!
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Dear Turq, ## Son, you got to know the audience reading this. There ain't nothing delusional about what I write. Have you looked at TM.org lately? You are just so damned ignorant and out of it. You are so removed from reality here your conjuring this megalomania tripe against TM just won't stick. It is not even close to the mark of what is going on here. But, I always do like what you write even if it is counter-revolutionary. It evidently most always sharpens and makes people think and adds to the great theatre of the great battle for perception going on. In revolution, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, we won't put Turqb up for no medal of honor citation now for running away, but I'd be first to give him a special award for coming back to meditation with us. I'd even give him a peck on the check like those Parisians he is so fond of do in the movies. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
The point is that TM is rather a has been. Back in the 1970s it was novel because westerners didn't know much about yoga and meditation. Since then there has been a explosion in that knowledge and a shake out as to what is relevant and what isn't. Take a look around and you'll mainly find organizations teaching meditation over the weekend in a few short sessions prices ranging from free to $120 (very typical) to $400 (more extras). Not all of them are even saying people must practice meditation every day either. Actually once you get CC then then consciousness will keep developing without meditation though the latter might speed things up a bit. On 10/16/2013 11:04 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *Dear Turq,* *## Son, you got to know the audience reading this. There ain't nothing delusional about what I write. * *Have you looked at TM.org lately?* *You are just so damned ignorant and out of it. You are so removed from reality here* *your conjuring this megalomania tripe against TM just won't stick. * *It is not even close to the mark of what is going on here.* *But, I always do like what you write even if it is counter-revolutionary.* *It evidently most always sharpens and makes people think* *and adds to the great theatre of the great battle for perception going on. * *In revolution,* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Well, we won't put Turqb up for no medal of honor citation now for running away, * *but I'd be first to give him a special award for coming back to meditation with us.* *I'd even give him a peck on the check like those Parisians he is so fond of do in the movies. * *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Well actually Bhairitu, you are adept and do know full lot about it [Spirituality] by virtue of a lifetime. But most people in busy lives still do not know much about it and still are much more new to it even as it is their birthright. After a long period of stagnation TM is come back to initiating and moving forward. Re-grouping, re-fitted, re-organized, honing. As in battle, the equipment and tactic what has not been working gets quickly thrown aside and left behind as the dross of battling along. The progressive side of the TM movement is now much more concentrated and on the move again. I wish them well and that they have great success bringing people in to meditation and on to the spiritual path in the great battle for perception. With a full crew aboard coming in on A WING AND A PRAYER, Shouting Praise the Unified Field, we're on a mighty mission All aboard, we ain't a-goin' fishin' Praise the Unified Field and pass the ammunition And we'll all stay free, Jai Brahmananda Saraswati, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The point is that TM is rather a has been. Back in the 1970s it was novel because westerners didn't know much about yoga and meditation. Since then there has been a explosion in that knowledge and a shake out as to what is relevant and what isn't. Take a look around and you'll mainly find organizations teaching meditation over the weekend in a few short sessions prices ranging from free to $120 (very typical) to $400 (more extras). Not all of them are even saying people must practice meditation every day either. Actually once you get CC then then consciousness will keep developing without meditation though the latter might speed things up a bit. On 10/16/2013 11:04 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Turq, ## Son, you got to know the audience reading this. There ain't nothing delusional about what I write. Have you looked at TM.org lately? You are just so damned ignorant and out of it. You are so removed from reality here your conjuring this megalomania tripe against TM just won't stick. It is not even close to the mark of what is going on here. But, I always do like what you write even if it is counter-revolutionary. It evidently most always sharpens and makes people think and adds to the great theatre of the great battle for perception going on. In revolution, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Well, we won't put Turqb up for no medal of honor citation now for running away, but I'd be first to give him a special award for coming back to meditation with us. I'd even give him a peck on the check like those Parisians he is so fond of do in the movies. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him, Maha administrator sovereign of TM. Try, just for a moment, to look at all of this without all the decades of TM conditioning. If you encountered someone on the street talking like this, wouldn't you consider them a candidate for megalomania? Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
I don't think it is all that difficult to make a teaching simple including explaining it to people. TM spoke in lofty terms. For most people just talk about relaxation from a busy life through meditation. No need to speak about moksha, enlightenment at all. Just teach a simple technique. Three are groups who teach that way. And for folks interested in more of an Indian yoga approach there are indeed groups who cater to that. No one shoe fits all. On 10/16/2013 04:45 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *Well actually Bhairitu, you are adept and do know full lot about it [Spirituality] by virtue of a lifetime. But most people in busy lives still do not know much about it and still are much more new to it even as it is their birthright. After a long period of stagnation TM is come back to initiating and moving forward. Re-grouping, re-fitted, re-organized, honing. As in battle, the equipment and tactic what has not been working gets quickly thrown aside and left behind as the dross of battling along. The progressive side of the TM movement is now much more concentrated and on the move again. I wish them well and that they have great success bringing people in to meditation and on to the spiritual path in the great battle for perception. With a full crew aboard coming in on A WING AND A PRAYER, Shouting Praise the Unified Field, we're on a mighty mission* *All aboard, we ain't a-goin' fishin' Praise the Unified Field and pass the ammunition And we'll all stay free, * *Jai Brahmananda Saraswati,* *-Buck in the Dome * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The point is that TM is rather a has been. Back in the 1970s it was novel because westerners didn't know much about yoga and meditation. Since then there has been a explosion in that knowledge and a shake out as to what is relevant and what isn't. Take a look around and you'll mainly find organizations teaching meditation over the weekend in a few short sessions prices ranging from free to $120 (very typical) to $400 (more extras). Not all of them are even saying people must practice meditation every day either. Actually once you get CC then then consciousness will keep developing without meditation though the latter might speed things up a bit. On 10/16/2013 11:04 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *Dear Turq,* *## Son, you got to know the audience reading this. There ain't nothing delusional about what I write. * *Have you looked at TM.org lately?* *You are just so damned ignorant and out of it. You are so removed from reality here* *your conjuring this megalomania tripe against TM just won't stick. * *It is not even close to the mark of what is going on here.* *But, I always do like what you write even if it is counter-revolutionary.* *It evidently most always sharpens and makes people think* *and adds to the great theatre of the great battle for perception going on. * *In revolution,* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *Well, we won't put Turqb up for no medal of honor citation now for running away, * *but I'd be first to give him a special award for coming back to meditation with us.* *I'd even give him a peck on the check like those Parisians he is so fond of do in the movies. * *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yeah, you really told off old Buck and made him look really stupid. Good work! You managed to send a message on company time at work. Very impressive! Now, about that Rama levitation event... On 10/16/2013 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Look, in this the new millennium, the TM movement Boards of Trustees and Councils are going to have to rise up and actively look-out for the movement business, the Knowledge, and even look out for Nader Ram as Maha administrator sovereign of TM too. They may have to change their thinking. For those who thought my citation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania was too strong, try to step back from all your decades of programming and look at the above. Buck seems to believe that we're now in a new millennium, clearly due to the influence of a few butt-bouncers in a small town in the backwaters of Iowa. He further seems to believe that the made-up titles and positions of Trustee or Council actually *mean* something. He feels so strongly that the view of life and the world propounded by these made-up organizations is so important as to be capitalized as Knowledge. He then goes on to call a guy whose real name is Tony Nader by another made-up name (Nader Ram) and suggests another made-up title and position for him,
[FairfieldLife] RE: Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators
Re Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with.: Yes, that sounds the most plausible explanation (apart from sheer greed - he might really have been expecting more people would pay the high costs and so generate more revenue). Maybe he just liked being the unopposed ruler in his own private kingdom surrounded by beaming acolytes. Once he was set up in that situation he was content to pull up the drawbridge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHY7YO2N0Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipHY7YO2N0Y ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: Of course M's decision to *withhold* TM from more possible initiates could have been a tactic to motivate those already Initiated to push harder for enlightenment since there would obviously be no more to come and the burden to achieve the Age of Enlightenment would then depend on the few he has directly had interaction with. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 6:47 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Pricing TM to Teach [more] Meditators You know, Maharishi was very able to adapt course to circumstances as he went along. It is certainly time for the TM-Rajas to adapt course so the movement can teach once again. I am reminded of the time that Maharishi was in Fairfield as the Domes were being built. One morning he came in to the group meditation over at the campus field house and sat with it. He got to talking with the group there. Someone asked about the Age of Enlightenment technique and Maharishi asked if everyone did not have it? On seeing hands go up for those who did not he then said everyone should have it. That day arrangements were made for people then to get it. That was done, no money charged for an $850 technique. Bevan taught it to people then for free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: And who made that decision to create the Rajas? Your much vaunted Marshy - says a lot don't it? On Friday, October 11, 2013 12:15 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: “Rich people just care less,” Well then, pretty obviously the TM-Rajas being pre-select for wealth are too remote to understand the problem. Since the 1970s, the gap between the rich and everyone else has skyrocketed. Income inequality is at its highest level in a century. This widening gulf between the haves and have-less troubles me, but not for the obvious reasons. Apart from the financial inequities, I fear the expansion of an entirely different gap, caused by the inability to see oneself in a less advantaged person’s shoes. Reducing the economic gap may be impossible without also addressing the gap in empathy. This has profound implications for societal behavior and government policy. Tuning in to the needs and feelings of another person is a prerequisite to empathy, which in turn can lead to understanding, concern and, if the circumstances are right, compassionate action. “Turning a blind eye. Giving someone the cold shoulder. Looking down on people. Seeing right through them. These metaphors for condescending or dismissive behavior are more than just descriptive. They suggest, to a surprisingly accurate extent, the social distance between those with greater power and those with less” http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1 http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/rich-people-just-care-less/?exprod=myyahoo_r=1
