[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[WillyTex]

> > Both of whom have explained many times 
> > that they aren't Buddhists...
> >
TurquoiseB: 
> Since I'm not a Buddhist...
>
So, you changed your mind again! You were 
a Buddhist BEFORE you said you were NOT a 
Buddhist. You're not a Buddhist, but, you 
spent ten years inside a Buddhist cult.

"Because you don't know "where I'm coming
from in these discussions, I should back-
track a little and fill you in, Ok?  I am
essentially of the buddhist persuasion..."

Read more:

Subject: Re: Gnosis + Knowledge
Author: Uncle Tantra
Newsgroups: alt.religion.gnostic
Date: October 12, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/34zq4xb

"My curiosity stems from having spent most
of a lifetime as a "hands on" practitioner
of various spiritual paths..."

Read more:

Subject: Re: Gnosticism
Author: Uncle Tantra
Newsgroups: alt.religion.gnostic
Date: October 17, 2003
http://tinyurl.com/3xrjppv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What have you got against Buddhists Nabby. You're critical 
> > > of them because MMY made some disparaging comments?
> > 
> > He did'nt as far as I know, His comments about the Buddha were 
> > utterly positive.
> > 
> > My attitude towards them is only based on the wild behavior we 
> > see of them (The Turq and even more so the so-called Vaj) here 
> > on FFL. 
> 
> Both of whom have explained many times that they 
> aren't Buddhists. :-)

Noone believes a word of what you write anyway, much less that of Vaj who 
professed to go to Buddhist retreats and even claiming to lead at least one.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > What have you got against Buddhists Nabby. You're critical 
> > of them because MMY made some disparaging comments?
> 
> He did'nt as far as I know, His comments about the Buddha were 
> utterly positive.
> 
> My attitude towards them is only based on the wild behavior we 
> see of them (The Turq and even more so the so-called Vaj) here 
> on FFL. 

Both of whom have explained many times that they 
aren't Buddhists. :-)

Since I'm not a Buddhist, it really doesn't 
bother me that Nabby gets his hate rocks off by
calling me one, and I don't think it bothers Vaj,
either. Nabby just needed a name to call us, and 
because neither Vaj nor I are black, he can't 
call us niggers. So he just picked "Buddhists," 
which, the way he uses it, is equivalent.

I guess I could retaliate by calling Nabby a 
German, but that would be unfair to Germans.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:46 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
>  
> 
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > 
> > > I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My
> point is; I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be OK
> in my book.
> > > Got it now ?
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, you're a great rationalizer in deep need of some form of objective
> therapy. 
> 
> HaHa: "Objective" as in "Buddhist" I presume.
> 
>  
> 
> What have you got against Buddhists Nabby. You're critical of them because
> MMY made some disparaging comments?


He did'nt as far as I know, His comments about the Buddha were utterly positive.

My attitude towards them is only based on the wild behavior we see of them (The 
Turq and even more so the so-called Vaj) here on FFL. Also note that when 
referring to these two characters I use quotationmarks for "Buddhist".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[yifuxero]

To Nabby:  So why is Benjamin Creme not a nut-case? He's spreading rumors and 
lies about Maitreya.  I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that 
would be OK in my book.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> > 
> > > I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My 
> > > point is; I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be 
> > > OK in my book.
> > > Got it now ?
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, you're a great rationalizer in deep need of some form of objective 
> > therapy. 
> 
> HaHa: "Objective" as in "Buddhist" I presume.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:46 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> 
> > I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My
point is; I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be OK
in my book.
> > Got it now ?
> 
> 
> Yeah, you're a great rationalizer in deep need of some form of objective
therapy. 

HaHa: "Objective" as in "Buddhist" I presume.

 

What have you got against Buddhists Nabby. You're critical of them because
MMY made some disparaging comments?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> 
> > I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point 
> > is; I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be OK in my 
> > book.
> > Got it now ?
> 
> 
> Yeah, you're a great rationalizer in deep need of some form of objective 
> therapy. 

HaHa: "Objective" as in "Buddhist" I presume.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Vaj]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:49 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

> I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point 
> is; I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be OK in my 
> book.
> Got it now ?


Yeah, you're a great rationalizer in deep need of some form of objective 
therapy. Your family should be having you hauled off to an exit counselor as we 
speak.

(Any family members should feel free to contact me off-list for suggestions 
and/or assistance--I'm, of course, glad to assist.)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Vaj]

On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Joe wrote:

> Take a deep breath Willy boy. This topic clearly upsets you.
> 
> If you are unable to process what is being presented, which despite all your 
> efforts to muddy the water, is simply that Judith, along with several other 
> girls, had sex with MMY in the late 60s and early 70s.
> 
> The Conny Larson story is a separate matter, but as it happens, he ended up 
> having regular sex with his guru (Sai Baba) after he left his position as one 
> of MMY's "skin boys" and began to follow Sai Baba.


Let's keep in mind, Conny actually had a book out before Judith Bourque ('The 
Beatles, Maharishi and I' presumably waiting to be translated into English) 
which is an exposé on Beatles-era Maheshian escapades.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

I'm with you there. A real paradox.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:14 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Using a position of power to have sex with your disciples is not OK in my
> book.
> 
> True. A momentary lapse in judgementalism. But what I meant was that his
> flaws don't cause me to totally reject the man. I'm still very grateful to
> him.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:50 PM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> > 
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
> > > not to see what is going on there.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
> > > rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
> > > primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and
> > you've
> > > shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because
> > his
> > > robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
> > > continuing to use the term?
> > 
> > I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point
> > is; I don't believe a word of it, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Don't believe a word of what? You haven't read the book.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > but if it happened that would be OK in my book.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Because he wore white robes and not ochre? That's the only explanation you
> > have offered so far as to why it would be OK. And you know what? It's
> > actually OK in my book too, but maybe for different reasons. I'm
> fascinated
> > by the complexity of the man, the issue of Guru/disciple relationships,
> the
> > importance of accepting things as they are and then trying to make sense
> of
> > them (or not trying to), vs. remaining in denial in order to preserve
> one's
> > fantasies, etc.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> 
> Using a position of power to have sex with your disciples is not OK in my 
> book.

How do you know He did ?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:14 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

  


Using a position of power to have sex with your disciples is not OK in my
book.

True. A momentary lapse in judgementalism. But what I meant was that his
flaws don't cause me to totally reject the man. I'm still very grateful to
him.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:50 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> 
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
> > not to see what is going on there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
> > rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
> > primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and
> you've
> > shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because
> his
> > robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
> > continuing to use the term?
> 
> I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point
> is; I don't believe a word of it, 
> 
> 
> 
> Don't believe a word of what? You haven't read the book.
> 
> 
> 
> but if it happened that would be OK in my book.
> 
> 
> 
> Because he wore white robes and not ochre? That's the only explanation you
> have offered so far as to why it would be OK. And you know what? It's
> actually OK in my book too, but maybe for different reasons. I'm
fascinated
> by the complexity of the man, the issue of Guru/disciple relationships,
the
> importance of accepting things as they are and then trying to make sense
of
> them (or not trying to), vs. remaining in denial in order to preserve
one's
> fantasies, etc.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

Using a position of power to have sex with your disciples is not OK in my book.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:50 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
>  
> 
>  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> > On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
> 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
> > not to see what is going on there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
> > rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
> > primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and
> you've
> > shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because
> his
> > robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
> > continuing to use the term?
> 
> I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point
> is; I don't believe a word of it, 
> 
>  
> 
> Don't believe a word of what? You haven't read the book.
> 
>  
> 
> but if it happened that would be OK in my book.
> 
>  
> 
> Because he wore white robes and not ochre? That's the only explanation you
> have offered so far as to why it would be OK. And you know what? It's
> actually OK in my book too, but maybe for different reasons. I'm fascinated
> by the complexity of the man, the issue of Guru/disciple relationships, the
> importance of accepting things as they are and then trying to make sense of
> them (or not trying to), vs. remaining in denial in order to preserve one's
> fantasies, etc.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
> 
> 
> One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
> not to see what is going on there.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
> rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
> primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and
you've
> shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because
his
> robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
> continuing to use the term?

I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point
is; I don't believe a word of it, 

 

Don't believe a word of what? You haven't read the book.

 

but if it happened that would be OK in my book.

 

Because he wore white robes and not ochre? That's the only explanation you
have offered so far as to why it would be OK. And you know what? It's
actually OK in my book too, but maybe for different reasons. I'm fascinated
by the complexity of the man, the issue of Guru/disciple relationships, the
importance of accepting things as they are and then trying to make sense of
them (or not trying to), vs. remaining in denial in order to preserve one's
fantasies, etc.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

Take a deep breath Willy boy. This topic clearly upsets you.

If you are unable to process what is being presented, which despite all your 
efforts to muddy the water, is simply that Judith, along with several other 
girls, had sex with MMY in the late 60s and early 70s.

The Conny Larson story is a separate matter, but as it happens, he ended up 
having regular sex with his guru (Sai Baba) after he left his position as one 
of MMY's "skin boys" and began to follow Sai Baba.

That's it. If reading about this bothers you, ignore it. That's your 
prerogative.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > So far (probably due to its limited availability), 
> > > I have seen no "shoot the messenger" responses to 
> > > Judith's book from the TMO. 
> > > 
> Joe:
> > You spoke just a minute too soon Barry. Check out 
> > WillyTex's attempted smear of Judith going on now. 
> > Classic shoot-the-messenger stuff.
> >
> You're the TMO, Joe!
> 
> So, you are thinking that Judith was NOT a follower
> of Sai Baba? If she was, wouldn't that put her in the
> 'support the perv' camp? 
> 
> Conny Larsson and Judith Bourque are also devotees 
> of the Indian Gurus Amma & Kalki Bhagavan. What's up
> with that?
> 
> Judith Bourque - Alternative Therapist:
> http://tinyurl.com/27vfpku
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
>  
> 
>  One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
> not to see what is going on there.
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
> rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
> primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and you've
> shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because his
> robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
> continuing to use the term?

I still consider it a rumor. This book proves nothing whatsoever. My point is; 
I don't believe a word of it, but if it happened that would be OK in my book.
Got it now ?

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of WillyTex
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:33 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

 > > Nothing either of these characters can be 
> > believed. I'm surprised you'd spend $37 for 
> > trash like this
> >
Rick Archer: 
> Why don't you read the book before you judge 
> it Willy? Or can't you afford the $37?
> 
Why don't you read it, Rick? 

 

It's in the mail. I probably will have read it by a week from now. Order
your copy then we can discuss it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[WillyTex]

> > Nothing either of these characters can be 
> > believed. I'm surprised you'd spend $37 for 
> > trash like this
> >
Rick Archer: 
> Why don't you read the book before you judge 
> it Willy? Or can't you afford the $37?
> 
Why don't you read it, Rick? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[WillyTex]

TurquoiseB:
> Interestingly, many of the people I run this
> number on -- even the Professional Troll known
> as Willytex -- have never figured out what I'm
> doing...
>
You're an expert at 'running numbers', having worked
for Rama all those years. You're no better than
Judith or Connie - selling all that snake oil and
taking people for a ride. All you 'spiritual teachers'
are running a con game. In Rama's case, there is
no need to shoot the messenger - you already shot
yourself many times. Judith shot herself when she
started supporting Sai Baba. Why would you and Joe
want to support Judith and Sai?

What happened to all the money?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[WillyTex]

> > So far (probably due to its limited availability), 
> > I have seen no "shoot the messenger" responses to 
> > Judith's book from the TMO. 
> > 
Joe:
> You spoke just a minute too soon Barry. Check out 
> WillyTex's attempted smear of Judith going on now. 
> Classic shoot-the-messenger stuff.
>
You're the TMO, Joe!

So, you are thinking that Judith was NOT a follower
of Sai Baba? If she was, wouldn't that put her in the
'support the perv' camp? 

Conny Larsson and Judith Bourque are also devotees 
of the Indian Gurus Amma & Kalki Bhagavan. What's up
with that?

Judith Bourque - Alternative Therapist:
http://tinyurl.com/27vfpku

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:30 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

 One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer
not to see what is going on there.

 

Hi Nabby. Nice to hear from you. I've been meaning to ask you about this
rumor-monger thing. You've been calling me that for years. Now that the
primary rumor I was mongering turns out not to have been a rumor, and you've
shifted your story from "it didn't happen" to "it didn't matter, because his
robes were white, not ochre", what rumors are you now alluding to in
continuing to use the term?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> Hi Rick,
> 
> Turns out that "John Theobald" aka John Lasher is in reality  Gerald Joe 
> Moreno of Las Cruces, New Mexico.. an internet character assassinator of all 
> who dissent from Sai Baba and other gurus he admires (eg. Swami Premananda 
> serving double life sentence in India for rape and murder).

Inmates in the prison refuse to be released. Swami Premananda has turned the 
prison into an Ashram. Ofcourse He never did what is accused of, it's just 
mafia-corruption from politicians that take 100 US dollars for every foreigner 
that visits Him. 
One has to be pretty naive, or steeped in rumor-monging like Rick Archer not to 
see what is going on there.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of WillyTex
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:49 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H

 

Apparently Judith is a New Age spiritual
teacher - a Neo-Advaitin and rumor monger 
of the first degree. Nothing either of these
characters can be believed. I'm surprised
you'd spend $37 for trash like this. Connie
and Judith's names are mud all over the 
internet! Go figure.

 

Why don't you read the book before you judge it Willy? Or can't you afford
the $37?

 

Apparently keeping your promise to your 
guru dev means nothing to you - you failed 
to keep the teaching pure. 

 

Are you addressing Maharishi here? Sounds like it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> You spoke just a minute too soon Barry. 

Duh. Have I not used the word "proactive" in 
describing my intent in making these "avoid
the problem before it arises" posts?  :-)

OF COURSE some people are going to do 
"Shoot the messenger" in all of this. Look at 
the financial and emotional investment people 
have in preserving the "perfect" PR image of
the person the "message" might cause doubts 
about.

> Check out WillyTex's attempted smear of Judith going on now. 
> Classic shoot-the-messenger stuff.

Yup.

As some have never figured out, I sometimes 
am given to writing about what certain people
are *going to do*, based on their posting his-
tory, before they've done it.

Interestingly, many of the people I run this
number on -- even the Professional Troll known
as Willytex -- have never figured out what I'm
doing. 

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > Correction.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xddff7 
> > > 
> > > Please note that this is on the OFFICIAL SAI
> > > BABA WEBSITE.
> > 
> > I had been told in the past that this was a website
> > paid for and generated by Sai Baba's organization, but 
> > a search of it finds no such "official" attribution, 
> > and in fact an explicit claim that it's not.
> > 
> > Still, it's a pretty remarkable site, which I recommend
> > to those interested in guru highjinks and how some TB 
> > guru followers respond to them. The home page:
> > 
> > http://www.saisathyasai.com/
> > 
> > The "Contact" page is remarkably revealing in its use
> > of threats and paranoia:
> > 
> > http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/disclaimer.shtml
> > 
> > Whether officially sanctioned by the Sai Baba org or not, 
> > this website is an example of what lies at the bottom of 
> > the slippery slope that seekers head down when they choose 
> > to go the route of "shoot the messenger."
> > 
> > Who -- except Nabby, of course -- could read this and come
> > away thinking, "Wow...that is sure one *spiritual* organ-
> > ization! I just can't *wait* to become part of it and learn
> > to think like these true spiritual seekers think?"
> > 
> > Now think about the impression created in lurkers by those
> > who have dedicated YEARS OF THEIR LIVES to trying to 
> > practice "shoot the messenger" on FFL and a.m.t. posters 
> > who criticize Maharishi or TM or the TMO. What are they 
> > THINKING to believe that this is a "spiritual" thing 
> > to do and will be perceived as one?
> > 
> > So far (probably due to its limited availability), I have
> > seen no "shoot the messenger" responses to Judith's book
> > from the TMO. I *have* seen attempts by official TM spokes-
> > persons to demonize and discredit David Sieveking for his
> > film "David Wants To Fly," including threatened lawsuits
> > and attempts to get the premiere of the film canceled.
> > 
> > I am merely suggesting proactively that folks really don't 
> > want to "go there." Doing so is a classically dumb method
> > of shooting yourself (and the teacher or org you are trying
> > to "protect") in the foot. Do you really want to be thought
> > of the way that you probably thought of the person who
> > created the "Pro-Sai" site above? There ain't nuthin' 
> > "pro" about it, only "con," as in con job. 
> > 
> > "People use the word 'guru' because 'charlatan' is so hard 
> > to spell."  - Peter Drucker
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

You spoke just a minute too soon Barry. Check out WillyTex's attempted smear of 
Judith going on now. Classic shoot-the-messenger stuff.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Correction.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xddff7 
> > 
> > Please note that this is on the OFFICIAL SAI
> > BABA WEBSITE.
> 
> I had been told in the past that this was a website
> paid for and generated by Sai Baba's organization, but 
> a search of it finds no such "official" attribution, 
> and in fact an explicit claim that it's not.
> 
> Still, it's a pretty remarkable site, which I recommend
> to those interested in guru highjinks and how some TB 
> guru followers respond to them. The home page:
> 
> http://www.saisathyasai.com/
> 
> The "Contact" page is remarkably revealing in its use
> of threats and paranoia:
> 
> http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/disclaimer.shtml
> 
> Whether officially sanctioned by the Sai Baba org or not, 
> this website is an example of what lies at the bottom of 
> the slippery slope that seekers head down when they choose 
> to go the route of "shoot the messenger."
> 
> Who -- except Nabby, of course -- could read this and come
> away thinking, "Wow...that is sure one *spiritual* organ-
> ization! I just can't *wait* to become part of it and learn
> to think like these true spiritual seekers think?"
> 
> Now think about the impression created in lurkers by those
> who have dedicated YEARS OF THEIR LIVES to trying to 
> practice "shoot the messenger" on FFL and a.m.t. posters 
> who criticize Maharishi or TM or the TMO. What are they 
> THINKING to believe that this is a "spiritual" thing 
> to do and will be perceived as one?
> 
> So far (probably due to its limited availability), I have
> seen no "shoot the messenger" responses to Judith's book
> from the TMO. I *have* seen attempts by official TM spokes-
> persons to demonize and discredit David Sieveking for his
> film "David Wants To Fly," including threatened lawsuits
> and attempts to get the premiere of the film canceled.
> 
> I am merely suggesting proactively that folks really don't 
> want to "go there." Doing so is a classically dumb method
> of shooting yourself (and the teacher or org you are trying
> to "protect") in the foot. Do you really want to be thought
> of the way that you probably thought of the person who
> created the "Pro-Sai" site above? There ain't nuthin' 
> "pro" about it, only "con," as in con job. 
> 
> "People use the word 'guru' because 'charlatan' is so hard 
> to spell."  - Peter Drucker
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

Hi Rick,

Turns out that "John Theobald" aka John Lasher is in reality  Gerald Joe Moreno 
of Las Cruces, New Mexico.. an internet character assassinator of all who 
dissent from Sai Baba and other gurus he admires (eg. Swami Premananda serving 
double life sentence in India for rape and murder).

Someone private e-mailed me with this information last night.

Joe

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of johnlasher20002000
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:33 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Robes of Silk Feet of Clay H
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> http://sai-fi.net/satyababa/?cat=190
> These are some of the blogs from the Sai Baba site. I don't know if it's the
> same Judith Bourque
> Who wrote the book about MMY but it seems the site is accusing Conny Larsson
> of trying to discredit Sai Baba and the same site mentions the connections
> and involvement of Judith Bourque. I don't know if we're talking about the
> same people or not, or what the situation they're talking about, but it
> struck me as coincidence. 
> 
> Conny and Judith are friends and both live in Sweden.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[WillyTex]

> > I believe it would be very difficult 
> > indeed for someone to read the book and 
> > still question Ms. Bourques' honesty...
> >
Joe:
> Conny Larson was one of MMY's assistants 
> that Judith knew during the time she was 
> in Europe with Maharishi...
> 
It's not that difficult at all, Joe, to doubt
Judith's claims. Judith is apparently one of 
the discredited 'Licensed Teacher of Vedic 
Mantra Meditation' and was trained by Connie 
Larsson. That immediately leads me to doubt
anything Judith says about anyone. 

Apparently Judith is a New Age spiritual
teacher - a Neo-Advaitin and rumor monger 
of the first degree. Nothing either of these
characters can be believed. I'm surprised
you'd spend $37 for trash like this. Connie
and Judith's names are mud all over the 
internet! Go figure.

You really showed a lot of loyalty to the 
Maharishi by posting to TM-Free, Joe. You
really suck as a spiritual teacher!

Apparently keeping your promise to your 
guru dev means nothing to you - you failed 
to keep the teaching pure. You're about on 
the same level as another 'God's Little 
Clown'!

'Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay'
TM-Free Blogspot, Thursday, July 08, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/29xrepl

According to Connie, Judith has been kicked
out of Connie's 'Vedic Mantra Meditation' 
cult due to her lying about Connie. Besides 
being a devotee of the Maharishi, Sai Baba, 
and Connie, Judith wants you to believe 
that she is a 'psychic trance medium'.  

Conny Larsson and Judith Bourque are also 
devotees of the Indian Gurus Amma & Kalki 
Bhagavan. Can you believe that?

Judith Bourque - Alternative Therapist:
http://tinyurl.com/27vfpku

"Those who have left Maharishi and Sai Baba 
are hoping that Kalki (Avatar) will now be 
their image of God. They will find in time 
that they have lost everything on the 
journey, partner, home, children and money. 
Alas, they dare not listen to their own 
voices." - Conny Larsson

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[TurquoiseB]

Correction.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3xddff7 
> 
> Please note that this is on the OFFICIAL SAI
> BABA WEBSITE.

I had been told in the past that this was a website
paid for and generated by Sai Baba's organization, but 
a search of it finds no such "official" attribution, 
and in fact an explicit claim that it's not.

Still, it's a pretty remarkable site, which I recommend
to those interested in guru highjinks and how some TB 
guru followers respond to them. The home page:

http://www.saisathyasai.com/

The "Contact" page is remarkably revealing in its use
of threats and paranoia:

http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/disclaimer.shtml

Whether officially sanctioned by the Sai Baba org or not, 
this website is an example of what lies at the bottom of 
the slippery slope that seekers head down when they choose 
to go the route of "shoot the messenger."

Who -- except Nabby, of course -- could read this and come
away thinking, "Wow...that is sure one *spiritual* organ-
ization! I just can't *wait* to become part of it and learn
to think like these true spiritual seekers think?"

Now think about the impression created in lurkers by those
who have dedicated YEARS OF THEIR LIVES to trying to 
practice "shoot the messenger" on FFL and a.m.t. posters 
who criticize Maharishi or TM or the TMO. What are they 
THINKING to believe that this is a "spiritual" thing 
to do and will be perceived as one?

So far (probably due to its limited availability), I have
seen no "shoot the messenger" responses to Judith's book
from the TMO. I *have* seen attempts by official TM spokes-
persons to demonize and discredit David Sieveking for his
film "David Wants To Fly," including threatened lawsuits
and attempts to get the premiere of the film canceled.

I am merely suggesting proactively that folks really don't 
want to "go there." Doing so is a classically dumb method
of shooting yourself (and the teacher or org you are trying
to "protect") in the foot. Do you really want to be thought
of the way that you probably thought of the person who
created the "Pro-Sai" site above? There ain't nuthin' 
"pro" about it, only "con," as in con job. 

"People use the word 'guru' because 'charlatan' is so hard 
to spell."  - Peter Drucker

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnlasher20002000"
 wrote:
>
> http://sai-fi.net/satyababa/?cat=190
> These are some of the blogs from the Sai Baba site. I don't know
> if it's the same Judith Bourque Who wrote the book about MMY but
> it seems the site is accusing Conny Larsson of trying to discredit
> Sai Baba and the same site mentions the connections and involvement
> of Judith Bourque. I don't know if we're talking about the same
> people or not, or what the situation they're talking about, but
> it struck me as coincidence.

It's not a coincidence. The Sai Baba followers are
well known in spiritual circles for being exactly
like Scientologists when dealing with criticism of
their pedophile and bad stage magician guru. Like
the Scientologists, they actually hire private
detectives to "dig up dirt" on the critics and
smear them. Here is one of their "hit pieces" on
Conny Larsson, which also mentions Judith Bourque.

http://www.google.es/imgres?imgurl=http://www.saisathyasai.com/Conny_Lar\
sson/judith-bourque-conny-larsson.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.saisathyasai.\
com/Conny_Larsson/judith-bourque-filmmaker-endermologie.html&usg=__tTJMk\
TiV6FylbrxP7vAzS8yAQA0=&h=804&w=699&sz=78&hl=en&start=3&itbs=1&tbnid=GLM\
WZgywGNEbtM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Judith%2BBourque%\
2522%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1
 

http://tinyurl.com/3xddff7 

Please note that this is on the OFFICIAL SAI
BABA WEBSITE.

One of the reasons I've been so proactive in point-
ing out the tendency to try to "shoot the messenger"
when confronted by a message one doesn't like is
to hopefully keep TMers from being considered
*quite* as crazy and cultlike as the Sai Baba and
Scientology crazies.

I merely *hope* that "johnlasher" is pointing out
this systematic smearing for informational purposes,
and not for the purpose of...uh...joining in the
smear. The latter would make him look kinda like
an idiot, wouldn't it?

> to view the archive.org results for Judith Bourque's original
testimony as published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain (archive.org
results are still available as of September 8th 2009). Archive.org has
four results (from July 4th 2007 to February 13th 2008) for the webpage
that contained Judith Bourque's original testimony. It is important to
note that archive.org only indexes webpages after a period of 6 – 12
months. Therefore, Judith Bourque's testimony was published on the
vedicmasterclass.org domain sometime in mid to late 2006 and remained
there until February 2009 when it was altered. The screencap shows the
archive.org results for the webpage containing Judith Bourque's
first-hand testimony about Conny Larsson's "trance channeling" of Vyasa.
>
> Name: Ramana
> Email: ram...@...
> Gender: Male
> Location: poland
> IP: 83.22.146.154
> Hostname: dzi154.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
> Comment About: Comments
> Date/Time: Wednesday, 02 November 2005 — 11:09:26 AM
> Hi
> I sent to you few weeks ago email and I dont have time to replay you,
Im sorry. Now Im again In Poland so I have time to write. I wanna share
with you about Conny Larsson,well I knew him very well, I and my brother
used it organizeted for Conny Larsson teaching meditation courses in
whole Poland for Sai Devotees. So This was during 1997 till 1999. We
were very close friends with Conny, To make this story short I want
inform you that Conny is good actor and he tell all time untruth storys
about his interviews, when he talked to people about Sai Baba and his
interviews he all time tell different storys, he said something diffrent
in 1998 and year after he said this same interview diffrent. He lies all
time. I belived that Conny had maybe interiviews during 1980 till 83 and
since that time he made up other interviews. So he got last interview I
think in 1999.In this interview 1999 I belived him because he had
witness.
> When he came to Poland in September 1999 he said that Baba rape him
many times and Baba is fraud. We were shocked, he said that he is now ex
baba devotee. Also he wanted forses us to tell that Sai Baba rape even
me and my brother! We said Why i should lie? HE replay because this is
game, this demon sai baba must bit. HE said- tell people in sai movemnt
in poland that sai rape you-,I said NO I will not lie! Conny said I will
pay you money only say that sai baba make sex with you. I dont even tell
that this was our last meeting with Conny. As you see Conny is.. I dont
know little crazy? Also I met Alayer In India 1999.Even in 3 august 1999
we were sitting in same plane (in this sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnlasher20002000"
 wrote:
>
> http://sai-fi.net/satyababa/?cat=190
> These are some of the blogs from the Sai Baba site. I don't know if
it's the same Judith Bourque  I don't know. It could be a different
Judith Bourque.  The font is different on that site.  If it were the
same Judith Bourque, shouldn't it be the same font.
> Who wrote the book about MMY but it seems the site is accusing Conny
Larsson of trying to discredit Sai Baba and the same site mentions the
connections and involvement of Judith Bourque. No, I don't think it's
the same.  Supposedly they did know each other, and I think the  MMY
Conny did spend some time with Sai, but prolly it's still a different
Conny Larsson too.   I don't know if we're talking about the same people
or not, or what the situation they're talking about, but it struck me as
coincidence.
>
> to view the archive.org results for Judith Bourque's original
testimony as published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain (archive.org
results are still available as of September 8th 2009). Archive.org has
four results (from July 4th 2007 to February 13th 2008) for the webpage
that contained Judith Bourque's original testimony. It is important to
note that archive.org only indexes webpages after a period of 6 – 12
months. Therefore, Judith Bourque's testimony was published on the
vedicmasterclass.org domain sometime in mid to late 2006 and remained
there until February 2009 when it was altered. The screencap shows the
archive.org results for the webpage containing Judith Bourque's
first-hand testimony about Conny Larsson's "trance channeling" of Vyasa.
>
> Name: Ramana
> Email: ram...@...
> Gender: Male
> Location: poland
> IP: 83.22.146.154
> Hostname: dzi154.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
> Comment About: Comments
> Date/Time: Wednesday, 02 November 2005 — 11:09:26 AM
> Hi
> I sent to you few weeks ago email and I dont have time to replay you,
Im sorry. Now Im again In Poland so I have time to write. I wanna share
with you about Conny Larsson,well I knew him very well, I and my brother
used it organizeted for Conny Larsson teaching meditation courses in
whole Poland for Sai Devotees. So This was during 1997 till 1999. We
were very close friends with Conny, To make this story short I want
inform you that Conny is good actor and he tell all time untruth storys
about his interviews, when he talked to people about Sai Baba and his
interviews he all time tell different storys, he said something diffrent
in 1998 and year after he said this same interview diffrent. He lies all
time. I belived that Conny had maybe interiviews during 1980 till 83 and
since that time he made up other interviews. So he got last interview I
think in 1999.In this interview 1999 I belived him because he had
witness.
> When he came to Poland in September 1999 he said that Baba rape him
many times and Baba is fraud. We were shocked, he said that he is now ex
baba devotee. Also he wanted forses us to tell that Sai Baba rape even
me and my brother! We said Why i should lie? HE replay because this is
game, this demon sai baba must bit. HE said- tell people in sai movemnt
in poland that sai rape you-,I said NO I will not lie! Conny said I will
pay you money only say that sai baba make sex with you. I dont even tell
that this was our last meeting with Conny. As you see Conny is.. I dont
know little crazy? Also I met Alayer In India 1999.Even in 3 august 1999
we were sitting in same plane (in this same sitts) to Bombay from
Putapartii. We were also good friends because he know Conny Larsson very
well, Alayer speak about Baba in good way, he all time said that he love
Baba etc. BUt when HE came back to USA he spoke with Conny in august
1999 he decided left Baba as Conny do. Maybe Conny paid him like he
wanted paid us?
> Ramana from Poland
> [CLICK HERE For ScreenCap Reference]
> "Meeting for the Masters' Class in Cypress was truly inspiring and an
excellent example of how to spend a meaningful holiday. We were a group
of teachers from several different countries, each bringing to the class
an area of acquired knowledge and experience…Conny spoke about the
seven different states of consciousness and also did some
interpretations from Vyaasa, `the first Rishi, or Seer'. That, for sure
was an extra bonus at the seminar…I really look forward to the next
event of this kind that Conny organises! Judith Bourque, Holistic
Therapist and Independent Filmmaker"
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

Reading a bit further on the site "Johnlasher" sites, it's quite clear that it 
is a pro Sai-Baba site. There aren't too many of those these days as the 
charges of sexual abuse, fraud and phony "miracles" against Sai Baba are long 
standing and well documented.
Interesting though since I've heard that there is a well organized group that 
go around trying to discredit any Sai Baba critics on the web.

"Johnlasher" aka John Theobald, are you one of these?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> This is the same Judith Bourque of course. Conny Larson was one of MMY's 
> assistants that Judith knew during the time she was in Europe with Maharishi.
> 
> Judith reconnected with Conny while doing research for her book.
> 
> Not quite sure what conclusion you're drawing with the info below.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnlasher20002000"  
> wrote:
> >
> > http://sai-fi.net/satyababa/?cat=190
> > These are some of the blogs from the Sai Baba site. I don't know if it's 
> > the same Judith Bourque
> > Who wrote the book about MMY but it seems the site is accusing Conny 
> > Larsson of trying to discredit Sai Baba and the same site mentions the 
> > connections and involvement of Judith Bourque. I don't know if we're 
> > talking about the same people or not, or what the situation they're talking 
> > about, but it struck me as coincidence. 
> > 
> > to view the archive.org results for Judith Bourque's original testimony as 
> > published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain (archive.org results are still 
> > available as of September 8th 2009). Archive.org has four results (from 
> > July 4th 2007 to February 13th 2008) for the webpage that contained Judith 
> > Bourque's original testimony. It is important to note that archive.org only 
> > indexes webpages after a period of 6 – 12 months. Therefore, Judith 
> > Bourque's testimony was published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain 
> > sometime in mid to late 2006 and remained there until February 2009 when it 
> > was altered. The screencap shows the archive.org results for the webpage 
> > containing Judith Bourque's first-hand testimony about Conny Larsson's 
> > "trance channeling" of Vyasa.
> > 
> > Name: Ramana
> > Email: ramana@
> > Gender: Male
> > Location: poland
> > IP: 83.22.146.154
> > Hostname: dzi154.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
> > Comment About: Comments
> > Date/Time: Wednesday, 02 November 2005 — 11:09:26 AM
> > Hi
> > I sent to you few weeks ago email and I dont have time to replay you, Im 
> > sorry. Now Im again In Poland so I have time to write. I wanna share with 
> > you about Conny Larsson,well I knew him very well, I and my brother used it 
> > organizeted for Conny Larsson teaching meditation courses in whole Poland 
> > for Sai Devotees. So This was during 1997 till 1999. We were very close 
> > friends with Conny, To make this story short I want inform you that Conny 
> > is good actor and he tell all time untruth storys about his interviews, 
> > when he talked to people about Sai Baba and his interviews he all time tell 
> > different storys, he said something diffrent in 1998 and year after he said 
> > this same interview diffrent. He lies all time. I belived that Conny had 
> > maybe interiviews during 1980 till 83 and since that time he made up other 
> > interviews. So he got last interview I think in 1999.In this interview 1999 
> > I belived him because he had witness.
> > When he came to Poland in September 1999 he said that Baba rape him many 
> > times and Baba is fraud. We were shocked, he said that he is now ex baba 
> > devotee. Also he wanted forses us to tell that Sai Baba rape even me and my 
> > brother! We said Why i should lie? HE replay because this is game, this 
> > demon sai baba must bit. HE said- tell people in sai movemnt in poland that 
> > sai rape you-,I said NO I will not lie! Conny said I will pay you money 
> > only say that sai baba make sex with you. I dont even tell that this was 
> > our last meeting with Conny. As you see Conny is.. I dont know little 
> > crazy? Also I met Alayer In India 1999.Even in 3 august 1999 we were 
> > sitting in same plane (in this same sitts) to Bombay from Putapartii. We 
> > were also good friends because he know Conny Larsson very well, Alayer 
> > speak about Baba in good way, he all time said that he love Baba etc. BUt 
> > when HE came back to USA he spoke with Conny in august 1999 he decided left 
> > Baba as Conny do. Maybe Conny paid him like he wanted paid us?
> > Ramana from Poland
> > [CLICK HERE For ScreenCap Reference]
> > "Meeting for the Masters' Class in Cypress was truly inspiring and an 
> > excellent example of how to spend a meaningful holiday. We were a group of 
> > teachers from several different countries, each bringing to the class an 
> > area of acquired knowledge and experience…Conny spoke about the seven 
> > different states of consciousness and also did some interpretations from 
> > Vyaasa, `the first Rish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robes of Silk Feet of Clay Hmmmm

[Joe]

This is the same Judith Bourque of course. Conny Larson was one of MMY's 
assistants that Judith knew during the time she was in Europe with Maharishi.

Judith reconnected with Conny while doing research for her book.

Not quite sure what conclusion you're drawing with the info below.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnlasher20002000"  
wrote:
>
> http://sai-fi.net/satyababa/?cat=190
> These are some of the blogs from the Sai Baba site. I don't know if it's the 
> same Judith Bourque
> Who wrote the book about MMY but it seems the site is accusing Conny Larsson 
> of trying to discredit Sai Baba and the same site mentions the connections 
> and involvement of Judith Bourque. I don't know if we're talking about the 
> same people or not, or what the situation they're talking about, but it 
> struck me as coincidence. 
> 
> to view the archive.org results for Judith Bourque's original testimony as 
> published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain (archive.org results are still 
> available as of September 8th 2009). Archive.org has four results (from July 
> 4th 2007 to February 13th 2008) for the webpage that contained Judith 
> Bourque's original testimony. It is important to note that archive.org only 
> indexes webpages after a period of 6 – 12 months. Therefore, Judith Bourque's 
> testimony was published on the vedicmasterclass.org domain sometime in mid to 
> late 2006 and remained there until February 2009 when it was altered. The 
> screencap shows the archive.org results for the webpage containing Judith 
> Bourque's first-hand testimony about Conny Larsson's "trance channeling" of 
> Vyasa.
> 
> Name: Ramana
> Email: ram...@...
> Gender: Male
> Location: poland
> IP: 83.22.146.154
> Hostname: dzi154.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl
> Comment About: Comments
> Date/Time: Wednesday, 02 November 2005 — 11:09:26 AM
> Hi
> I sent to you few weeks ago email and I dont have time to replay you, Im 
> sorry. Now Im again In Poland so I have time to write. I wanna share with you 
> about Conny Larsson,well I knew him very well, I and my brother used it 
> organizeted for Conny Larsson teaching meditation courses in whole Poland for 
> Sai Devotees. So This was during 1997 till 1999. We were very close friends 
> with Conny, To make this story short I want inform you that Conny is good 
> actor and he tell all time untruth storys about his interviews, when he 
> talked to people about Sai Baba and his interviews he all time tell different 
> storys, he said something diffrent in 1998 and year after he said this same 
> interview diffrent. He lies all time. I belived that Conny had maybe 
> interiviews during 1980 till 83 and since that time he made up other 
> interviews. So he got last interview I think in 1999.In this interview 1999 I 
> belived him because he had witness.
> When he came to Poland in September 1999 he said that Baba rape him many 
> times and Baba is fraud. We were shocked, he said that he is now ex baba 
> devotee. Also he wanted forses us to tell that Sai Baba rape even me and my 
> brother! We said Why i should lie? HE replay because this is game, this demon 
> sai baba must bit. HE said- tell people in sai movemnt in poland that sai 
> rape you-,I said NO I will not lie! Conny said I will pay you money only say 
> that sai baba make sex with you. I dont even tell that this was our last 
> meeting with Conny. As you see Conny is.. I dont know little crazy? Also I 
> met Alayer In India 1999.Even in 3 august 1999 we were sitting in same plane 
> (in this same sitts) to Bombay from Putapartii. We were also good friends 
> because he know Conny Larsson very well, Alayer speak about Baba in good way, 
> he all time said that he love Baba etc. BUt when HE came back to USA he spoke 
> with Conny in august 1999 he decided left Baba as Conny do. Maybe Conny paid 
> him like he wanted paid us?
> Ramana from Poland
> [CLICK HERE For ScreenCap Reference]
> "Meeting for the Masters' Class in Cypress was truly inspiring and an 
> excellent example of how to spend a meaningful holiday. We were a group of 
> teachers from several different countries, each bringing to the class an area 
> of acquired knowledge and experience…Conny spoke about the seven different 
> states of consciousness and also did some interpretations from Vyaasa, `the 
> first Rishi, or Seer'. That, for sure was an extra bonus at the seminar…I 
> really look forward to the next event of this kind that Conny organises! 
> Judith Bourque, Holistic Therapist and Independent Filmmaker"
>