[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
No. Lama is only a philosophical Advaitin; far from being a Neo-Advaitin defined and described in the website. Let me explain: among the many Rinpoches one can find, Lama Zopa Rinpoche is in a certain type of demographic group which seamlessly merges a. emptiness teachings (such as his DVD "ATomic Bomb Against Ignorance") - which can be termed a Wisdom teaching, with b. Karma busting techniques - such as the chanting of the Sanghata Sutra Dharma; which I listen to every day, and c. Other types of karma busting or material enhancement techniques such as those involved with prayers to the Medicine Master Buddha, and Green Tara. Devotion to the Green Tara covers virtually every possible countermeasure against both Spiritual and material faults, including the potential to eradicate diseases, poverty, fix oil spills, etc. ... Thus, only in philosophical theory does Lama Zopa separate out the Wisdom teachings from a whole, complete spectrum of mantras designed to eradicate our shortcomings in the material world. ... This approach is very distinct from the Neo-Advaitins, who only go around saying "Being, Being, Being...". ... I recommend that you actually get into Lama Zopa's practices. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > yifuxero: > > Try Buddhism. I recommend Lama Zopa... > > > You seem to be getting confused - Lama Zopa > is teaching Neo-Advaita! Everyone knows that > Zopa believes that we are all 'Buddhas' from > birth. According to Mahayana Buddhism, we all > possess the Buddha Nature. You are already > enlightened - all you have to do is Awaken! > > "He then revealed the teachings of the Four > Noble Truthsthat show the path to liberation, > the Paramitayana paththat shows the path to > full enlightenment, and the tantric path > which brings enlightenment very quicklyeven > in one lifetime..." - Lama Zopa > > http://tinyurl.com/2dg2srk >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
yifuxero: > Try Buddhism. I recommend Lama Zopa... > You seem to be getting confused - Lama Zopa is teaching Neo-Advaita! Everyone knows that Zopa believes that we are all 'Buddhas' from birth. According to Mahayana Buddhism, we all possess the Buddha Nature. You are already enlightened - all you have to do is Awaken! "He then revealed the teachings of the Four Noble Truthsthat show the path to liberation, the Paramitayana paththat shows the path to full enlightenment, and the tantric path which brings enlightenment very quicklyeven in one lifetime..." - Lama Zopa http://tinyurl.com/2dg2srk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
Of course not. A wad of cash will heal all spiritual wounds with the TM organization. But if you are on staff, sucking the money from them, then that in itself is a good thing, and if you are subtle you can have your cake and eat it too, otherwise, to hell with it all. Don't be a wussy. It damages your spirit. From: ditzyklanmail To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 8:45:10 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints What if someone has "rock star" or "movie star" status? They seem to be exempt from the list of who to remove? From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, 29 June, 2010 7:41:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by > the Karunamayi Homa who had previously > helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO > and got them removed from the dome program > for seeing other saints. > She stood in a couple different places for > 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on > and then left. She is of a > temperament that people "need > to make choices". > > Evidently by Rick's report about > someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things > have not changed > within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by "reporting them" to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of "reading books that have been declared Off The Program" so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase "People need to make choices." I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's "Tell only the sweet truth" seems to be "Lie."
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
What if someone has "rock star" or "movie star" status? They seem to be exempt from the list of who to remove? From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 29 June, 2010 7:41:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by > the Karunamayi Homa who had previously > helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO > and got them removed from the dome program > for seeing other saints. > She stood in a couple different places for > 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on > and then left. She is of a > temperament that people "need > to make choices". > > Evidently by Rick's report about > someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things > have not changed > within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by "reporting them" to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of "reading books that have been declared Off The Program" so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase "People need to make choices." I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's "Tell only the sweet truth" seems to be "Lie."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
This is what the age of enlightenment looks like --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > A friend of mine just got > > fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted > > parked among the others at her homa. > > > > That is extremely sad news. > It's so mean-spirited. & Means > also they evidently have not changed. > It's so sad and cold. > The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if > you want to serve in the TM-movement. > > Jai Adi Shankara, > -Buck >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Yep, I did notice someone had stopped by > the Karunamayi Homa who had previously > helped 'report' out someone else to DEVCO > and got them removed from the dome program > for seeing other saints. > She stood in a couple different places for > 4 or 5 minutes with sunglasses on > and then left. She is of a > temperament that people "need > to make choices". > > Evidently by Rick's report about > someone losing their job with the TMmovement, things > have not changed > within the Tmo. What is fascinating to me is how much things have not changed in terms of hypocrisy. Back in 1978 I was going out with a woman who single-handedly ended several TM teachers' careers within the TM movement by "reporting them" to the TMO authorities for the similar but lesser sin of "reading books that have been declared Off The Program" so that they would be kept from going to courses and never allowed to teach again. She too used the phrase "People need to make choices." I remember it clearly because that statement marked the end of my romantic interest in her. Several years later I ran into this same woman in Chicago and she dragged me with her to see Karunamayi, carefully checking before going in to make sure no one else was there who would report *her* to the TMO. And her brother is currently the head shill for Trivedi. They're both probably considered On The Program. The lesson to be learned from all of this is that the *effective* definition of MMY's "Tell only the sweet truth" seems to be "Lie."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > A friend of mine just got > > fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car > > was spotted parked among the others at her homa. > > That is extremely sad news. > It's so mean-spirited. & Means > also they evidently have not changed. > It's so sad and cold. > The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if > you want to serve in the TM-movement. It is worth pointing out that Maharishi's rule about never seeing other spiritual teachers is probably linked to the fact that back when he was getting his rocks off with his own female students, he seemed to have a preference for virgins. Some guys are uncomfortable having their "performance" measured against anyone else's -- in the sack or on the pulpit. How to "keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Par-eee?" Make sure they never get to see Par-eee. One would think that someone who claims that his tech- nique of meditation and path are "the best" would want his followers to check out the other, lesser techniques and paths and verify that for themselves. < putting on my Maharishi as Donald Duck voice > "How many here have tried any other technique than TM?" < a few hands go up...they are dragged from the room > "How many who are left believe that TM is the best, most effective technique of meditation in the world? See? Almost everyone."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing the Saints
Thx, too bad. I contributed some $ to that Homa. But time to grow up, bite the bullet; face reality and do the right thing: Try Buddhism. I recommend Lama Zopa. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > A friend of mine just got > > fired from his movement job for going to see Karunamayi. His car was spotted > > parked among the others at her homa. > > > > That is extremely sad news. > It's so mean-spirited. & Means > also they evidently have not changed. > It's so sad and cold. > The TM policy seems unchanged as, 'don't ask, don't tell', if > you want to serve in the TM-movement. > > Jai Adi Shankara, > -Buck >
