Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates
Curtis, Lyoto is just holding back as you know because if he truly unleashed his karate power the entire planet would crack in half. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for some people to eat sh!t. http://www.mmatko.com/wanderlei-silva-vs-keith-jardine-fight-video-ufc-84/ Watch this guy. He can finish a fight with striking. Notice the lack of him running away from his opponent. Instead, he finishes the guy with strikes. When Lyoto starts serving up some performances like this you can run the he's the greatest routine. PS please note the lack of a second or third round or the need to resort to a judge's decision due to lack of finishing the fight in the ring. My man, Lyoto - humble Shotokan expert - hammers the UFC goon, Tito Ortiz. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Time for some people to eat sh!t. http://www.mmatko.com/wanderlei-silva-vs-keith-jardine-fight-video-ufc-8\ 4/ http://www.mmatko.com/wanderlei-silva-vs-keith-jardine-fight-video-ufc-\ 84/ Watch this guy. He can finish a fight with striking. Notice the lack of him running away from his opponent. Instead, he finishes the guy with strikes. When Lyoto starts serving up some performances like this you can run the he's the greatest routine. PS please note the lack of a second or third round or the need to resort to a judge's decision due to lack of finishing the fight in the ring. Lyoto won the fight. Period. But American goons like brawn, not brains. Go back to watching your stupid video game UFC goons. Shotokan dominates OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, Lyoto is just holding back as you know because if he truly unleashed his karate power the entire planet would crack in half. Excellent! But how about that Wanderlei Silva fight! --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Time for some people to eat sh!t. http://www.mmatko.com/wanderlei-silva-vs-keith-jardine-fight-video-ufc-84/ Watch this guy. He can finish a fight with striking. Notice the lack of him running away from his opponent. Instead, he finishes the guy with strikes. When Lyoto starts serving up some performances like this you can run the he's the greatest routine. PS please note the lack of a second or third round or the need to resort to a judge's decision due to lack of finishing the fight in the ring. My man, Lyoto - humble Shotokan expert - hammers the UFC goon, Tito Ortiz. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for some people to eat sh!t. My man, Lyoto - humble Shotokan expert - hammers the UFC goon, Tito What are you crowing about? He had a nice takedown in the first round and a nice knee to the liver in the third round. He still can't finish a fight and spent 90 percent of it running away from Tito. It was one of the most boring fights I have seen. I repeat, he did not finish. He did not knock Tito out with a scary karate strike, and he couldn't finish him on the ground. He needs to learn how to finish a fight. Stop your obnoxious crowing about a guy who won a decision in a boring fight. He did manage to run away really really well for most of the fight though. Perhaps he should take up track and field? Ortiz. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time for some people to eat sh!t. http://www.mmatko.com/wanderlei-silva-vs-keith-jardine-fight-video-ufc-84/ Watch this guy. He can finish a fight with striking. Notice the lack of him running away from his opponent. Instead, he finishes the guy with strikes. When Lyoto starts serving up some performances like this you can run the he's the greatest routine. PS please note the lack of a second or third round or the need to resort to a judge's decision due to lack of finishing the fight in the ring. My man, Lyoto - humble Shotokan expert - hammers the UFC goon, Tito Ortiz. http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detailPID=519 OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates - Machida to annihilate more UFC goons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loyota to annihilate more UFC goons http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm? fa=Fighter.relatedMediagid=11697ss=Machida http://tinyurl.com/6xv2gp OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates - Machida to annihilate more UFC goons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loyota to annihilate more UFC goons http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm? fa=Fighter.relatedMediagid=11697ss=Machida http://tinyurl.com/556qkz OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates UFC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen or heard from William Jones lately? Still dead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jones_(philologist) :-) - Original Message From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 3:02:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Shotokan dominates UFC No, I mean the fight where he mashed him up with Shotokan moves, then merely finished him technically with moves that are not viable in a real fight in the real world. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, but you wouldn't percieve that Curtis, because you are clearly inexperienced. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, and you know it Curtis. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Do you mean the fight where Lyoto failed to stop the fight with magical Shotokan strikes and eventually used a Jiu jitsu choke to finally finish a fight instead of having it go to a decision...that fight? I guess he has learned more than you have about the place for his strikes, to set up a finishing hold. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/12/ufc-79-streaming-video- lyoto-machida-vs.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brian Horsfield horsfield@ wrote: I am glad that more folks are looking into Ron Paul. He's certainly very unusual and at first glance his positions seem simplistic... like his solution to Iraq just come home. FWIW, the more I learn about Ron Paul's positions, Such as? What positions of RP's are you blowing out of proportion? and distorting for your own prejudices? You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Bring it on. What is it that you disagree with with Ron Paul? Looks to me like you are just another manipulator of truth. OffWorld the less appealing (understatement) I find him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates UFC
The rest of the world sees a grappling win. You are alone in your fixation. Lyoto is a great mixed martial artist. You are missing what makes him great in your desire to be associated with something special. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I mean the fight where he mashed him up with Shotokan moves, then merely finished him technically with moves that are not viable in a real fight in the real world. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, but you wouldn't percieve that Curtis, because you are clearly inexperienced. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, and you know it Curtis. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Do you mean the fight where Lyoto failed to stop the fight with magical Shotokan strikes and eventually used a Jiu jitsu choke to finally finish a fight instead of having it go to a decision...that fight? I guess he has learned more than you have about the place for his strikes, to set up a finishing hold. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/12/ufc-79-streaming-video- lyoto-machida-vs.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brian Horsfield horsfield@ wrote: I am glad that more folks are looking into Ron Paul. He's certainly very unusual and at first glance his positions seem simplistic... like his solution to Iraq just come home. FWIW, the more I learn about Ron Paul's positions, Such as? What positions of RP's are you blowing out of proportion? and distorting for your own prejudices? You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Bring it on. What is it that you disagree with with Ron Paul? Looks to me like you are just another manipulator of truth. OffWorld the less appealing (understatement) I find him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates UFC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rest of the world sees a grappling win. You are alone in your fixation. Yes, if you have not understood Shotokan, then you do not understand, nor percieve what happened in the fight. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, no question about it. He is faster, smarter, and more accurate in ALL moves because of his Shotokan. The guy he was fighting was a judo expert for chrise sakes !...and Lyota annihalated him at his own game ! That is because Lyota pummeled him with hard and fast Shotokan moves that left him shaken, and Lyota is faster, smarter, and more accurate in ALL his moves due to his Shotokan training. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, and that will cause you to squirm. Start practicing that squirm Curtis. OffWorld Lyoto is a great mixed martial artist. You are missing what makes him great in your desire to be associated with something special. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: No, I mean the fight where he mashed him up with Shotokan moves, then merely finished him technically with moves that are not viable in a real fight in the real world. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, but you wouldn't percieve that Curtis, because you are clearly inexperienced. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, and you know it Curtis. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Do you mean the fight where Lyoto failed to stop the fight with magical Shotokan strikes and eventually used a Jiu jitsu choke to finally finish a fight instead of having it go to a decision...that fight? I guess he has learned more than you have about the place for his strikes, to set up a finishing hold. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/12/ufc-79-streaming- video- lyoto-machida-vs.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brian Horsfield horsfield@ wrote: I am glad that more folks are looking into Ron Paul. He's certainly very unusual and at first glance his positions seem simplistic... like his solution to Iraq just come home. FWIW, the more I learn about Ron Paul's positions, Such as? What positions of RP's are you blowing out of proportion? and distorting for your own prejudices? You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Bring it on. What is it that you disagree with with Ron Paul? Looks to me like you are just another manipulator of truth. OffWorld the less appealing (understatement) I find him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates UFC
So even when he doesn't knock the guy out with magical Shotokan strikes as you described, and used other techniques from other disciplines to finish the fight, it is still your special martial art that made it possible? Yeah, I see where you are at now. You are stuck in your POV and no counter evidence will sway you. OK, join the group, you are in the majority in this world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: The rest of the world sees a grappling win. You are alone in your fixation. Yes, if you have not understood Shotokan, then you do not understand, nor percieve what happened in the fight. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, no question about it. He is faster, smarter, and more accurate in ALL moves because of his Shotokan. The guy he was fighting was a judo expert for chrise sakes !...and Lyota annihalated him at his own game ! That is because Lyota pummeled him with hard and fast Shotokan moves that left him shaken, and Lyota is faster, smarter, and more accurate in ALL his moves due to his Shotokan training. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, and that will cause you to squirm. Start practicing that squirm Curtis. OffWorld Lyoto is a great mixed martial artist. You are missing what makes him great in your desire to be associated with something special. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: No, I mean the fight where he mashed him up with Shotokan moves, then merely finished him technically with moves that are not viable in a real fight in the real world. You will see him dominate with Shotokan more and more as he gets closer to the goal, but you wouldn't percieve that Curtis, because you are clearly inexperienced. He would have lost without his Shotokan training in this fight, and you know it Curtis. OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Do you mean the fight where Lyoto failed to stop the fight with magical Shotokan strikes and eventually used a Jiu jitsu choke to finally finish a fight instead of having it go to a decision...that fight? I guess he has learned more than you have about the place for his strikes, to set up a finishing hold. http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/12/ufc-79-streaming- video- lyoto-machida-vs.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Brian Horsfield horsfield@ wrote: I am glad that more folks are looking into Ron Paul. He's certainly very unusual and at first glance his positions seem simplistic... like his solution to Iraq just come home. FWIW, the more I learn about Ron Paul's positions, Such as? What positions of RP's are you blowing out of proportion? and distorting for your own prejudices? You, (like Curtis' with the recent Dec. 29 annihilation by the Shotokan) have nothing of substance to argue with. Bring it on. What is it that you disagree with with Ron Paul? Looks to me like you are just another manipulator of truth. OffWorld the less appealing (understatement) I find him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are some violent fantasies you have there. You might want to get that checked. In the meantime I'll put you down for a no for any evidence in your corner other than shop worn claims from 1960's editions of I'm a Badass Karate Guy magazine. And I'm gunna put you down for a no about ever sparring with a boxer also. You believe in magic and I don't. Pretty simple really. READ MY LIPS: If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after one strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not watching a legitimate martial art Read mine: One video of your claim, or even a convincing first person account. All the bluff and bluster doesn't hide your lack of evidence for your claim. Meanwhile I have provided actual videos of a karate guy's inability to do what you claim, and there are many, many more. I do enjoy how riled up you get though. Must be all that: pure transcendental consiousness. As I've suggested before in this thread, I think that it's a *perfect* analog of the way that TMers believe that their technique is the best, and that the ME creates invincibility. It's all CLAIMS, with nothing to back them up. You really can't argue with those who *believe* the claims, because they believe them so thoroughly. They'll repeat the claims over and over and over and over, without ever offering a shred of real proof, and at the end of the exchange, they'll declare that they won the argument. But all they're doing is repeating a buncha claims that got claimed to them. Pussy martial artists, pussy spiritual seekers. Parallel? You decide.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I've suggested before in this thread, I think that it's a *perfect* analog of the way that TMers believe that their technique is the best, and that the ME creates invincibility. *Some* TMers. The ones in charge. The ones who set TM doctrine. If you worked at MUM and declared you didn't believe the above, Bevan would fire you immediately.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.
Those are some violent fantasies you have there. You might want to get that checked. In the meantime I'll put you down for a no for any evidence in your corner other than shop worn claims from 1960's editions of I'm a Badass Karate Guy magazine. And I'm gunna put you down for a no about ever sparring with a boxer also. You believe in magic and I don't. Pretty simple really. READ MY LIPS: If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after one strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not watching a legitimate martial art Read mine: One video of your claim, or even a convincing first person account. All the bluff and bluster doesn't hide your lack of evidence for your claim. Meanwhile I have provided actual videos of a karate guy's inability to do what you claim, and there are many, many more. I do enjoy how riled up you get though. Must be all that: pure transcendental consiousness. I'm glad you have pride in your chosen martial art. I can relate to that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I am very familiar with full contact tournaments. They have many more rules than a mixed martial arts matches. It is a great sport. But we started the discussion about actual fighting without rules about takedowns. One punch one kill is a fantasy perpetuated by people who stay our of the Octagon. You do not understand martial arts Curtis A Shotakan fighter will likely not PUNCH you in a REAL fight where it REALLY mattered. In less than a SPLIT second... You will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your head. You WILL be dead. Or, you will bet the force of a foot THROUGH your chest. You will be dead. Or, you will bet the force of a foot THROUGH your stomache. You will be close to dead. Or, you will get the force of a foot breaking your knees open, then as you collapse, you will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your head. You WILL be dead. Or, you will get the force of a foot breaking your ankles up, then as you collapse, you will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your head. You WILL be dead. Or, you will get that punch you never expected with the full force of a massively trained body and speed behind it that goes THROUGH your chest like a freight-train. You will be dead. Or you will be swept OFF your feet completely before you know where you are, and then as you collapse, you will get a force of a hard bone foot THROUGH your head. You WILL be dead. If any one of these does not kill you, you will be knocked so hard it will take time to recover, then, its too late, bacause the second blow comes in a split second and you will be dead. You have no idea of the bone shattering power a Shotokan fighter is trained to givewith his foot or fist, and you will not be able to guess which one it might be and where it will land. You let EVEN ONE blow through, and the chances are you will not recover, the next blow kills you. And those above do not count the numerous spots on the body that the Shotokan fighter KNOWS are specific and almost certain KILL spots. You just don't get it Curtis. READ MY LIPS: If you are watching a fight where the fight is NOT stopped after one strike (at least for a second or two), then you are not watching a legitimate martial art. IF the fighters carry on, then it is because they do not understand that a blow with full SHotokan power, will likely break a bone or collapse an organ. That is why Shotokan sparring stops after one blow. You cannot measure this killing power in some stupid TV show, because people would die. It is an absolutely absurd and ridiculous thing to the Shotokan experts to carry on a fight after one or two blows. It is a laughable joke, and if people have told you they cannot kill you with one or two blows, you are SERIOUSLY misled. You do not remotely understand martial arts Curtis. the Hitting someone who doesn't want to get hit is actually very hard. Ever spar with a boxer? Boxing is a joke. The boxer in a real fight would be dead. There are techniques that even a black belt in Shotokan (never mind the 5th and 6th dan guys), that would COMPLETELY baffle and throw a boxer off and before the guy knows what happened he would be gently laid to the ground, flat out, with a hard bone of a heel coming towards his face at an unprecedented speed. If it were carried through, that bone would break the guys skull. Curtis, you just don't get it. A true expert in shotokan will take down 95% of the others in a split second, but the other baboons keep fighting as if nothing happened. LOL...it is a joke. You know nothing about the bone shattering power of a single well placed kick, which could land anywhere on your body. And that does not even
