[FairfieldLife] Re: Sour grapes (was cognitive dissonance)

2011-07-20 Thread Ravi Yogi

Hey Bob, thanks for this beautiful question. I can't speak for Nabby but
NO, I can't truthfully say all the wankers on FFL, but I can
definitely say truthfully that Bob and Barry are too un-evolved to
have realized experiences and employ CD  denial techniques to
rationalize their ignorance.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I hope this will be my last post about cognitive dissonance (CD). I
figure if I can getÂ
 some answers to this question I'll have both hemispheres firing and I
can move on
 to the FFL script we're working on or better yet my first Zombie in
My Gas Tank
 interview.

 Preamble


 If  Leon Festinger (major cognitive dissonance thinker) were
to say to me:
 you and Fitzgerald are full of crap. The theory does not include some
people
 being better at sustaining the discomfort caused by holding twoÂ
 conflicting ideas in the mind at one time. The theory states that
people (as in all)
 have a motivational drive to reduce the dissonance (discomfort)
and employ
 techniques (primarily denial) to reduce the discomfort.

 Question:

 If Leon said this to me and Ravi and Nabby over heard him, could they
truthfully say:
 Exactly, which means all the wankers on FFL that question #1
experiences
 are actually just too un-evolved to have realized experiences
and employ CD
 denial techniques to -not unlike the fox with sour grapes in Aesops
fable, rationalize
  their ignorance.

 Please see the third paragraph at this link:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sour grapes (was cognitive dissonance)

2011-07-19 Thread turquoiseb
Well, if Leon had said this to me, I might have replied, Leon, baby,
'sour grapes' only applies to those who have never tasted the grapes.

What if some of the people hearing descriptions of these '#1 exper-
iences' are speaking up because they've had those experiences, too.
And what these other wankers are saying about their experience
doesn't match their own experience. And what if part of the issue
is that how these other wankers are acting while claiming to have
had these experiences doesn't match our experience of how people
would really act after having experienced something like that?

I'd then follow up by saying, By the way, were you really the 'Leon'
of 'Leon The Professional' fame? You kinda have the 'tude of a hit
man. So how was Natalie Portman to work with at age 13. Must've
been a trip, eh?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 No, this is not a post about Maharishi's sandals, pretending to
be something else!
 Â
 Although if the sandal was on the other foot  (sorry about that)
and Maharishi had aÂ
 pair of Marks old sandals with the, made in the shade, market there
must be for
 Maharishi relics I doubt if my former master would need to ask anyone
on thisÂ
 forum how to monetize such a rare item. On the other hand, if
Maharishi saw the thread on this postÂ
 he might say: thank the gods for the 50 post rule!

 Sour grapes (was cognitive dissonance)

 I hope this will be my last post about cognitive dissonance (CD). I
figure if I can getÂ
 some answers to this question I'll have both hemispheres firing and I
can move on
 to the FFL script we're working on or better yet my first Zombie in
My Gas Tank
 interview.

 Preamble

 If  Leon Festinger (major cognitive dissonance thinker) were
to say to me:
 you and Fitzgerald are full of crap. The theory does not include some
people
 being better at sustaining the discomfort caused by holding twoÂ
 conflicting ideas in the mind at one time. The theory states that
people (as in all)
 have a motivational drive to reduce the dissonance (discomfort)
and employ
 techniques (primarily denial) to reduce the discomfort.

 Question:

 If Leon said this to me and Ravi and Nabby over heard him, could they
truthfully say:
 Exactly, which means all the wankers on FFL that question #1
experiences
 are actually just too un-evolved to have realized experiences
and employ CD
 denial techniques to -not unlike the fox with sour grapes in Aesops
fable, rationalize
  their ignorance.

 Please see the third paragraph at this link:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance