Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Did you know that the Taliban summarily executed whole opium growing families and had the opium problem maintained to a low ebb. Under the US occupation opium production however has reached an all time high this year with Afghanistan producing 70% of the world's opium and heroin. These factoids come from the Senate Oversight Committee's notes on 'proposals' to make opium producers likely targets for American strikes. However, Rumsfeld himself, the old goat, has prevented or sought to prevent such targets, while most of the money which funds terrorist activity in the world comes from opium production. Try to tell me that Satan is not the hidden voice in our government. So... what are the opium *producers* like? Are they different somehow from the rest of the farmers in Afghanistan? They have devil horns, go to be after 10:00 pm, skip their asanas, and leave the dome early and don't think any pundits are going to show up. Very easy to id. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Narconon. Probe of antidrug program ordered State schools chief says he could bar Narconon teachings Nanette Asimov, Chronicle Staff Writer Thursday, June 17, 2004 California's top educator said Wednesday that he has ordered the state Department of Education to investigate an antidrug program used by schools around the state whose teachings have been linked with the Church of Scientology. Gee, if the educator's think it doesn't work, they must be right. They've done such a marvelous job with their own 'technology. Ever wonder why Scientology is so attacked by a system that has given us wars in Vietnam Iraq and completely failed drug, criminal rehab and educational programs? Instead of finding stuff to attack, find something to support. You can find crazy shit written about anything and everything on this planet. Why not look for what could possibly be good about something. Kirk, you're always asking Well, what you gonna do about it? I think its a good question. Scientology and Scientologists are doing something about the craziness on this planet, so of course, they get labelled as crazy. You mean you can find something to criticize about a group of humans who are trying to do something different and buck the miserable systems that are currently in place? Wow! I'm impressed. That takes real skill. Why not spend a little time on a Scientology site or two and see that side of the story. We already know how adept most people are on this forum at finding dirt. Maybe, just maybe, you'll find it could be the baby out with the bath water. Let's hope somebody has some real solutions to what's going on on this planet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
Gee, if the educator's think it doesn't work, they must be right. They've done such a marvelous job with their own 'technology." It's not the job of the government to produce drug free and well balanced individuals. It's the job of the parents who took it upon themselves to raise kids. If the kids become somehow wards of the state then yes, they might as well become wards of a sci-fi cult. Ever wonder why Scientology is so attacked by a system that has given us wars in Vietnam Iraq and completely failed drug, criminal rehab and educational programs? -The government's primary function is to protect the peace. That is, it seeks to protect borders and secure the constituents interest as opposed to others. It's the people of America that gave us Vietnam and all other wars that we have sponsored. If Americans were really against them they would overturn the government or die trying. Frankly I don't see Scientology being attacked so much as worshipped by actors who lack much in the way of emotional credibility. As far as the government attacking Scientology, I think that actually our government supports it or else they would have crucified you all on stakes like the Romans did Jesus. I see no martyr complex amongst you beside the one at present. I think that your persecution complex is unfounded. Ever heard of separation of church and state? The article quoted was just that. If Creationism is far fetched then Space Alien invaders chainedin volcanos is much more far fetched. Keep it the fuck away from our schools. There's more validity in "Lord of the Rings." And it was a better novel than anything L Ron dreamed up. Instead of finding stuff to attack, find something to support. You can find "crazy shit" written about anything and everything on this planet. Why not look for what could possibly be good about something. Well, how about not using narcotic abuse as a crafty gateway into your cult? Kirk, you're always asking "Well, what you gonna do about it?" I think its a good question. Scientology and Scientologists are doing something about the craziness on this planet, so of course, they get labelled as crazy. The only Scientologist or Scientology is a cult and cultish membership of people who have reified their conceptualization of reality into something so far fetched that they are then dissociated enough to be able to look at themslves objectively. So that's why they are labeled as crazy. Regular humans who might indulge in Scientology are just humans who have indulged in Scientology. Why don't we see more regular humans who have merely indulged in Scientology? Because it's not possible to be a regular human who merely indulges in Scientology. Oone must ascribe to the whole entire cult. There is no turning around. Just as their isn't in any cult. I object to any crafty means for making people join ones cult. I don't care if the reason is: Stress Release - TM Drug Freedom - Narconon=Scientology Better Sex - OTO Feeling like you're on dope - Muktananda/Rajaneesh Etc... I just find it shady. Even though I might object furiously to cults like those surrounding personalities like Bhagavan Kalki and Shri Nirmala Devi, at least they are honestly cultish and not even trying to hide their 'golden balls' and 'infinite grace of the avatar.' Whereas you Scientologiest have to use nanometers or whatever they're called to maintain some objective ability for discerning your own condition. You mean you can find something to criticize about a group of humans who are trying to do something different and buck the miserable "systems" that are currently in place?Wow! I'm impressed. That takes real skill. Don't get all offended. I've been really easy on you, and I never even told you what I really think about Scientology. Mainly because I realized long ago that you have been so thoroughly indoctrinated into your cult that you sound reasonable. It takes a huge amount of effort in any pursuit to make the supremely complex seem simple. Why not spend a little time on a Scientology site or two and see that side of the story. We already know how adept most people are on this forum at finding dirt. Maybe, just maybe, you'll find it could be the baby out with the bath water. Like I need aliens running aound in my bathwater. Ever since Ii was 12 and hanging out in Hollywood where one of the first Scientology cult dooorways was on Hollywood Blvd, I thought you guys were seriously mental if not outright as sick as two legged dogs. Just stay the fuck away from my children and we won't have to run into each other. If it turns out that I fail in my job of giving them the tools to survive and they take recouse to being whores to buy their heroin, then fine, you can have them then. Until then, I would rather they be free to determine what they are and are not, without some sickening cult trying to brainwash them under some conjob.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
I still have to ask you to look at the solutions statement above and ask you your own question: What you gonna do about it?Since I am a former druggy, and not one to say never again, I must tell you that even though drugs are bad, they aren't the worst of evils. The worst of evils are those which make usreach outfor the pain cure. Not the cure itself. Since these evils are all different it's hard to say what thesolution really is. Trying to make drugs into a scapegoat is like trying to cut off ones own hand and still scratch an itch. Drugs are here for a reason. And when the reason is truely served then so is the Divine. As far as what I am going to do about it, how's this? I vow to never support myself through selling dope. That's a start. Maybe not to you, but many many people sell drugs to suppliment their income, and/or make up for the taxes they pay which are supposedly fighting the bogus war on drugs. (While Nancy said "No" crack hit the streets) Did you know that the Taliban summarily executed whole opium growing families and had the opium problem maintained to a low ebb. Under the US occupation opium production however has reached an all time high this year with Afghanistan producing 70% of the world's opium and heroin. These factoids come from theSenate Oversight Committee's notes on 'proposals' to make opium producers likely targets for American strikes. However, Rumsfeld himself, the old goat, has prevented or sought to prevent such targets, while most of the money which funds terrorist activity in the world comes from opium production. Try to tell me that Satan is not the hidden voice in our government. A person who is in great pain needs a great pain killer. That is God's own mercy.I cannot fault God for giving them to us in the form of Pot, Opium, Peyote, Mushrooms, Ayahuasca, and all the other natural things. I can however, fault mankind for taking them and acetylating the morphine molecule so that it penetrates the fatty tissue three times faster and thus producing heroin. I can also thank Bayer for that one. -=New, Bayer Heroin, for coughs.=- I can fault the British for forcing opium upon the Chinese. But mostly just humankind itself. What will I do about it? When raising my own kids they will not grow up like ostriches fed on a diet of Disney Brain Vitamins and some conservative and bogus consumer fantasy to stick their head in when the going is tough. They will learn from me what's what, or my own experience will have been wasted. Then when they decide to do drugs I will not misunderstand the signs. These are things I can do, Lord willing, if we live that long. As for drugs. Frankly, I love them. I wish they were all legal. The fact that the drugs and our own bodies have been taken out of our control is merely the first step of the future police state. The second step, based on the internet is to control speech, and lastly the final step of the police state will be to control our minds with implants. It's all just in starting phases. Fear is the real source of all this control, which is entirely the opposite of the Divine which is spacious and timeless. Fear is close and under pressure. It's fear that kills everything. It's spaciousness and timelessness which makes everything flourish. Fear and control is at the root of our new police state. It's only just really getting under swing. In the future, when they get really good at it, the government will hold us to their tight controls and we will eat pie. What will I do about it. I will let you know how controls are being placed upon your being so that you can live free or die trying, as I plan to do. I will not fear a drug. I will fear nothing. Or I will die. I will not live as a cowering quivering little punk bitch at the President's apron, scared of my own shadow. Scared of freedom, being a creep. I will not act out of fear, to legislate new laws. Do away with all laws. Laws only serve the people who made them. It would have been better to have less police and let people beat each other up then have a police state with an agenda. Don't forget it. You will see anarchy before it's over. Our owngovernment is behind half the street drugs (Forgot about the police patrolling the cocaine warehouse in New Orleans? We haven't). The other half is sponsored by other governments, like Russia, Afghanistan, Iran, India, Columbia, Mexico, Saudi Arabia. These governments are the true sources for the huge amounts of drugs that kill everyone. They also make the money which amounts from them. The people who control the armies and who run the covert ops. Or else they simply would put the drug businesses out of business. It's just that simple. But America and Britain are the worst. Crack behind the Contras. Heroin behind Pol Pot. Opium behind Al Queda (Our previous allies) Yada yada. I do what I have to. I'm not God. Fuck fighting street drugs. Make them
[FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a summary of why we do drug education and how you can get active doing it. There are currently 15 million drug users in the United States 80% or so of such users are marijuana users. IMO, the bulk of the problem is misclassification. A large degree of marijuana no more a problem than modrate alcohol use. Indeed a number of studies appear to indicate that it is safer healthwise. Alcohol abuse - in the form of binge drinking, a subset of all alcohol use, is a bigger problem, in terms of abusers, than ALL marijuana use. And per the 5:1 ratio above, is many times (in the range of 6-10 x) larger than non-marijuana illegal drug use. Why then the focus on drug use? Why not focus on the much larger problem of binge-drinking? And alcohol use which is the predominate gateway drug for most forms of drug/alcohol abuse. (data from the CDC) http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus04trend.pdf#063 and an increasing number of those are children. Not true, looking at the data for 2002 to 2003. There was a decrease in all 18 and under age cohorts. Studies show that early drug prevention must give young children the truth, the vital information and tools they need to make their own choice to keep away from drugs. Thats fine, but binge drinking, which doesn't apper to be in your focus is a much larger problem. On an average, 5,000 new people experiment with drugs each day. Over a year, this adds up to 1,825,000 new people trying drugs. It is vital that we change this trend. Drug education lectures to youth are the most effective way to do this - you reach them before they experiment and get addicted. Which drug education modalites have been shown to do this? I s scientology among them. Not tht I can find. We need you to join the drug education team and help reverse the drug problem today! Here is what people are saying about Narconon drug education: This is an example of a logicla fallacy, of bait and switch, it appears. Drug education is cited as an effective modality. Presumably there is evidence to back it up -- but it appears the Scientology are not among these studies. Then antecodal testimonies, traditionally a notoriously skewed source of evidence, are presented about Scientology's programs. Yet, in reality, there is no link between such testimonies and scientific studies that show drug education to be effective (if there are studies that actually do such) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Street Drugs
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Did you know that the Taliban summarily executed whole opium growing families and had the opium problem maintained to a low ebb. Under the US occupation opium production however has reached an all time high this year with Afghanistan producing 70% of the world's opium and heroin. These factoids come from the Senate Oversight Committee's notes on 'proposals' to make opium producers likely targets for American strikes. However, Rumsfeld himself, the old goat, has prevented or sought to prevent such targets, while most of the money which funds terrorist activity in the world comes from opium production. Try to tell me that Satan is not the hidden voice in our government. So... what are the opium *producers* like? Are they different somehow from the rest of the farmers in Afghanistan? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
