[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: Just look at their public IRS statements, available at a couple websites that post all non-profit filings, and you'll see the transfers of money out of the US into jersey island offshore accounts - over $500 million in the past 6 yrs from those entities I've identified sorry, that should be $150 million not $500 million. MoneyMoneyMoney - Why are the americans so very desperate for this commodity ? They do not have a healthy relationship with money. If I was a guru in that country, God forbid, I'd certainly start off by trying to elivate as much cash from them as possible and thus make the ponder and perhaps reevaluate this crazy, lowlife obsession.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is madness. Sheer madness. Small permanent meditation centres are what the TM-mov't really needs. Small meditation groups in small localities can really purify the World Consciousness and create World Peace.!! You don't really need 13 Tallest buildings and Pyramids. A much more flattened network of plain old vanilla TM meditating groups can create wonders. Sometimes I feel that TM-org does not really want to create World Peace. But there's no support for meditation centers at the higher levels of the tmo. There was the push for recertification and Enlightenment centers a few yrs ago, but the plans were so wacky that few were started and all failed. To operate a local center the local teachers need to make a living and that ain't happening. No one is starting TM at the current price and with the current marketing. There are people on this forum defending the TM price strategy - I asked whether they spent $4500 to get recertified and then went out to run an Enlightenment Center, in which you had to have a minimum number of initiations each month to get the $2000 per month salary I feel you determine what any organization is really interested in by looking where they invest their money and their energy. The TMO has hundreds of millions invested in offshore acc'ts and real estate earning interest and capital gains. If a donor comes forward to support a specific world peace project, like the ffld course, then it goes forward, but when the donation dries up so does the peace project. See what happens when Settle stops giving $1 million a month to MUM, the course there will stop in favor of some big new wonderful golden age project for which there is a desperate need for funds, never will the TMO dip into its own pocket to keep that course going.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
Jason, God luv ya! You sound like a TMO virgin ;-) Does anyone know where the Vedaland location is in Florida? I'm assuming it is central Florida which would not be very valuable land at all. Now if it was in Key West --- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is madness. Sheer madness. Small permanent meditation centres are what the TM-mov't really needs. Small meditation groups in small localities can really purify the World Consciousness and create World Peace.!! You don't really need 13 Tallest buildings and Pyramids. A much more flattened network of plain old vanilla TM meditating groups can create wonders. Sometimes I feel that TM-org does not really want to create World Peace. But there's no support for meditation centers at the higher levels of the tmo. There was the push for recertification and Enlightenment centers a few yrs ago, but the plans were so wacky that few were started and all failed. To operate a local center the local teachers need to make a living and that ain't happening. No one is starting TM at the current price and with the current marketing. There are people on this forum defending the TM price strategy - I asked whether they spent $4500 to get recertified and then went out to run an Enlightenment Center, in which you had to have a minimum number of initiations each month to get the $2000 per month salary I feel you determine what any organization is really interested in by looking where they invest their money and their energy. The TMO has hundreds of millions invested in offshore acc'ts and real estate earning interest and capital gains. If a donor comes forward to support a specific world peace project, like the ffld course, then it goes forward, but when the donation dries up so does the peace project. See what happens when Settle stops giving $1 million a month to MUM, the course there will stop in favor of some big new wonderful golden age project for which there is a desperate need for funds, never will the TMO dip into its own pocket to keep that course going. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, God luv ya! You sound like a TMO virgin ;-) Does anyone know where the Vedaland location is in Florida? I'm assuming it is central Florida which would not be very valuable land at all. Now if it was in Key West Orlando area... not far from Disney... 480 acres.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, God luv ya! You sound like a TMO virgin ;-) Does anyone know where the Vedaland location is in Florida? I'm assuming it is central Florida which would not be very valuable land at all. Now if it was in Key West Near Orlando, right near DisneyWorld.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But there's no support for meditation centers at the higher levels of the tmo. Why should they ? If you so desperately need a center why don't you create one yourself ? No creativity ? No drive ? Then please get a cheking and stop whining about everyone else. There was the push for recertification and Enlightenment centers a few yrs ago, but the plans were so wacky that few were started and all failed. Failed by your standards perhaps. But what do you know about the process behind this project ? I'd say nada. To operate a local center the local teachers need to make a living and that ain't happening. No one is starting TM at the current price and with the current marketing. And why should TM be available to everybody everywhere right in from the street ? Maharishi said already 25 years ago that no new meditators are necessary. Just look at all the nutjobs on this forum who learned almost for free. No need for any more free-riders. I feel you determine what any organization is really interested in by looking where they invest their money and their energy. The enlivening of the Ved is TMO's primary task these days. The TMO has hundreds of millions invested in offshore acc'ts and real estate earning interest and capital gains. They do ? Please clarify. If a donor comes forward to support a specific world peace project, like the ffld course, then it goes forward, but when the donation dries up so does the peace project. See what happens when Settle stops giving $1 million a month to MUM, the course there will stop in favor of some big new wonderful golden age project for which there is a desperate need for funds, never will the TMO dip into its own pocket to keep that course going. You are probably right, and why should they sponsor the rich part of the world ?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives boo_lives@ wrote: But there's no support for meditation centers at the higher levels of the tmo. Why should they ? If you so desperately need a center why don't you create one yourself ? No creativity ? No drive ? Then please get a cheking and stop whining about everyone else. A correct reading of my total post showed this was exactly my pt. BTW I have set up TM centers in the past and devoted far more of my life to the goals you like to identify with and talk about. There was the push for recertification and Enlightenment centers a few yrs ago, but the plans were so wacky that few were started and all failed. Failed by your standards perhaps. But what do you know about the process behind this project ? I'd say nada. I know several recerts who were involved in the whole process and spoke with them regularly from the start of their recert course through the start of their enlightenment center to its ultimate closing. The standard I'm using is that there aren't any, they all shut down. I've come to realize that the TMO and people like you use some higher cosmic standard than whether something actually works as planned as a standard for success, but that's not usually how's its done. To operate a local center the local teachers need to make a living and that ain't happening. No one is starting TM at the current price and with the current marketing. And why should TM be available to everybody everywhere right in from the street ? Maharishi said already 25 years ago that no new meditators are necessary. Just look at all the nutjobs on this forum who learned almost for free. No need for any more free-riders. The pt of my post is that the TMO has nothing to do with TM anymore, which does seem to be clear to many here. No ones talking about teaching for free, the point is whether there's any teaching at all. As far as your loving the high price because it's now attracting high quality professional meditators to promote the TMO compared to the lowlifes of the past, I ask you to please name some doctors, lawyers, scientists etc who have learned TM in the past 15 years who are out there promoting TM and Maharishi. I could easily name you over 100 of these impressive professionals who learned in the 70s who were excellent public spokespeople for TM at that time. Right now, there's ... let's see, David Lynch I guess who doesn't really count since even he started back when only lowlifes were learning for $125. I feel you determine what any organization is really interested in by looking where they invest their money and their energy. The enlivening of the Ved is TMO's primary task these days. The raising of money and doing real estate deals are its main tasks. The TMO has hundreds of millions invested in offshore acc'ts and real estate earning interest and capital gains. They do ? Please clarify. Just look at their public IRS statements, available at a couple websites that post all non-profit filings, and you'll see the transfers of money out of the US into jersey island offshore accounts - over $500 million in the past 6 yrs from those entities I've identified (US entities with Maharishi in the name), I've not bothered to look further in the past which takes more effort to find. Also look at assets of Maharishi Global Development Fund for most of its real estate holdings, though it seems to have sold most of its US hotels and land it bought in the 90s in recent years. If a donor comes forward to support a specific world peace project, like the ffld course, then it goes forward, but when the donation dries up so does the peace project. See what happens when Settle stops giving $1 million a month to MUM, the course there will stop in favor of some big new wonderful golden age project for which there is a desperate need for funds, never will the TMO dip into its own pocket to keep that course going. You are probably right, and why should they sponsor the rich part of the world ? Then do it in Africa. But according to Hagelin the Ffld course is changing the world in historic ways, so why would a group devoted to these positive changes not want to keep it going? Why would they see it as sponsoring the rich, rather than creating world peace, which is what they say it's doing?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at their public IRS statements, available at a couple websites that post all non-profit filings, and you'll see the transfers of money out of the US into jersey island offshore accounts - over $500 million in the past 6 yrs from those entities I've identified sorry, that should be $150 million not $500 million.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
Well by your standards yes. TM-org once ripped me for 900 bucks. They promised to send me material for 'total knowlege course' but never sent it. Once I was thrown out of a Maharishi school in India for asking too many questions. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:55:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Jason, God luv ya! You sound like a TMO virgin ;-) Does anyone know where the Vedaland location is in Florida? I'm assuming it is central Florida which would not be very valuable land at all. Now if it was in Key West --- boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: --- Jason jedi_spock@ ... wrote: This is madness. Sheer madness. Small permanent meditation centres are what the TM-mov't really needs. Small meditation groups in small localities can really purify the World Consciousness and create World Peace.!! You don't really need 13 Tallest buildings and Pyramids. A much more flattened network of plain old vanilla TM meditating groups can create wonders. Sometimes I feel that TM-org does not really want to create World Peace. But there's no support for meditation centers at the higher levels of the tmo. There was the push for recertification and Enlightenment centers a few yrs ago, but the plans were so wacky that few were started and all failed. To operate a local center the local teachers need to make a living and that ain't happening. No one is starting TM at the current price and with the current marketing. There are people on this forum defending the TM price strategy - I asked whether they spent $4500 to get recertified and then went out to run an Enlightenment Center, in which you had to have a minimum number of initiations each month to get the $2000 per month salary I feel you determine what any organization is really interested in by looking where they invest their money and their energy. The TMO has hundreds of millions invested in offshore acc'ts and real estate earning interest and capital gains. If a donor comes forward to support a specific world peace project, like the ffld course, then it goes forward, but when the donation dries up so does the peace project. See what happens when Settle stops giving $1 million a month to MUM, the course there will stop in favor of some big new wonderful golden age project for which there is a desperate need for funds, never will the TMO dip into its own pocket to keep that course going. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
The land belongs to the VedaLand project. If VedaLand went bankrupt then that 170 million $$ should be returned to the investors. How can TM-org clean out the investors through their asses and pocket the cool 170 million dollars.?? Heh Heh, promised everyone that they would become rich.?? Is any investor going to the court of law over that 170 million dollars.?? boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:01:23 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Speaking of which, does anyone, perhaps someone in Florida, know about the sale of the Vedaland land in Florida? I hear rumours it's about to be sold for about $170 million, but have no good source on it. I'm curious because because Vedaland went bankrupt and all its investors lost 100% of their investment, but apparently the TMO actually bought and owns the land in Florida that was to be used for Vedaland, and they're about to make a killing on it. I'd like to understand how that happened - not that I'm surprised it did. Note -- MMY was personally involved in a couple of the Vedaland fundraising phone calls to Canada and the US and MMY promised everyone that they would become rich if they invested in Vedaland. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
This is madness. Sheer madness. Small permanent meditation centres are what the TM-mov't really needs. Small meditation groups in small localities can really purify the World Consciousness and create World Peace.!! You don't really need 13 Tallest buildings and Pyramids. A much more flattened network of plain old vanilla TM meditating groups can create wonders. Sometimes I feel that TM-org does not really want to create World Peace. Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:12:43 -0600 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Another fun trick the TMO has used on several occasions is to have local sidhas raise the money for a TM Center, telling them it would be a permanent home for the movement in their area, then sell the building a few years later, move the money overseas, and tell the locals they have to raise more money if they want another one. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: I wonder how much 'cut' goes to the Srivastava mafia.?? Maharishi wants to build 13 Tallest buildings around the world. The Srivastava familiy probably has enough funds to build it without any outside help.?? An even better question is, what will be the relationship of the TMO run by the Rajas, the fianancial arrangements with the Srivastava family when MMY experiences maha samadhi? All the money will go back to India. A royal fire sale of all holdings outside India. Every man for himself and the ausuras win...it is kali yuga you know! ;-) Speaking of which, does anyone, perhaps someone in Florida, know about the sale of the Vedaland land in Florida? I hear rumours it's about to be sold for about $170 million, but have no good source on it. I'm curious because because Vedaland went bankrupt and all its investors lost 100% of their investment, but apparently the TMO actually bought and owns the land in Florida that was to be used for Vedaland, and they're about to make a killing on it. I'd like to understand how that happened - not that I'm surprised it did. Note -- MMY was personally involved in a couple of the Vedaland fundraising phone calls to Canada and the US and MMY promised everyone that they would become rich if they invested in Vedaland.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land??
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boo_lives Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:01 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Srivastava Mafia's Cut - Florida Land?? Speaking of which, does anyone, perhaps someone in Florida, know about the sale of the Vedaland land in Florida? I hear rumours it's about to be sold for about $170 million, but have no good source on it. I'm curious because because Vedaland went bankrupt and all its investors lost 100% of their investment, but apparently the TMO actually bought and owns the land in Florida that was to be used for Vedaland, and they're about to make a killing on it. I'd like to understand how that happened - not that I'm surprised it did. Note -- MMY was personally involved in a couple of the Vedaland fundraising phone calls to Canada and the US and MMY promised everyone that they would become rich if they invested in Vedaland. Another fun trick the TMO has used on several occasions is to have local sidhas raise the money for a TM Center, telling them it would be a permanent home for the movement in their area, then sell the building a few years later, move the money overseas, and tell the locals they have to raise more money if they want another one. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 12/16/2007 11:36 AM
