Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-23 Thread Vaj




On Apr 23, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Dharma Mitra wrote:

>
> So very right, Nelson, the proof is in the experiencing of it, and  
> in our realm, in the world of yoga/tantra, it's all 98% experience,  
> 2% theory.  All too often supposed 'scientists' are so extroversive  
> that they search for evidence solely in the material world for  
> paradigms that are better witnessed, or even solely witnessable  
> subjectively.  Materially, there seems to continue to be no  
> evidence of a mind.  Who'd've thunk it!?

Exactly--and most of the intact traditions will have inner signposts,  
all entirely subjective but nonetheless personally verifiable--and  
teachers who are able to act as guides for this inner landscape.

However when you want to *sell* something, it becomes important to  
have some sort of carrot to persuade--and in that persuasion  
scientific materialism can be used to foster and promote spiritual  
materialism. The TMO probably represents the greatest form of this  
style of scientific and spiritual materialism in the history of  
meditation. Was it a failed or successful experiment? I guess we all  
decide for ourselves--and people's feet.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-23 Thread Dharma Mitra



So very right, Nelson, the proof is in the experiencing of it, and in our realm, in the world of yoga/tantra, it's all 98% experience, 2% theory.  All too often supposed 'scientists' are so extroversive that they search for evidence solely in the material world for paradigms that are better witnessed, or even solely witnessable subjectively.  Materially, there seems to continue to be no evidence of a mind.  Who'd've thunk it!?
Dharma MitraThey are "educated" who have learned much, remembered much,and make use 
of their knowledge in everyday life.  And of these lessons integrated into 
their life,moral conscience is the most imperative to learnand convey to 
others.Their virtues give true meaning to education. On 4/23/06, Nelson <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:--- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> wrote:> >> > And the last time somebody went 10 billion miles to test this> was...?> >> > This has overtones of the TMO's> > this-is-the-most-important-theory-in-the-universe...
> >> > Sal>> It's also a standard part of Quantum Mechanics theory and has been> for 75+ years or so. There's no known way of using this fact to> communicate information over long distances, BTW. Testing to see what
> one electron or whatever is doing, means you've modified the other> one also so whoever tests first destroys any info the other person> wanted to send.>+++ An ounce of expierience is heavier than a ton of theory.
Telepathy works and, is not dependant on any approval.  N.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-23 Thread Nelson



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
> wrote:
> >
> > And the last time somebody went 10 billion miles to test this 
> was...?
> > 
> > This has overtones of the TMO's 
> > this-is-the-most-important-theory-in-the-universe...
> > 
> > Sal
> 
> It's also a standard part of Quantum Mechanics theory and has been 
> for 75+ years or so. There's no known way of using this fact to 
> communicate information over long distances, BTW. Testing to see what 
> one electron or whatever is doing, means you've modified the other 
> one also so whoever tests first destroys any info the other person 
> wanted to send.
> 
+++ An ounce of expierience is heavier than a ton of theory.
    Telepathy works and, is not dependant on any approval.  N.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-22 Thread Dharma Mitra



The speed of light is NOT constant, though may typically be within a steady range for any point in time and space, and for us, that may typically be 186,289 miles a second, though not always.  Through deep freezing, MIT was able to slow it down to around a mile an hour a few years ago.
Your thoughts travel faster than the speed of light, and through your burgeoning spiritual development, including your polishing of your kosas and relinquishing the petty minitis of your manaomaya beougsoie, you'll make these subtler capabilities more ubiquitious in your daily life and conscious mind.  
In the crude realm/perspective, there are myriad dimensions of matter and beyond.  The fourth dimension is minimally demonstrated by a sphere spinning on its axis, the fifth dimension is minimalistically demonstrated by the asymetrical circumambulation of many objects around a shared center, more complexly around many centers and intersecting with each other, again asymetrically, in a multitude of intersections.  More subtly, the fifth dimension is represented in 
our complex organism reproduction, where in a brief moment, two or more cells conjugating a new union can burgeon forth and fully replicate a new organism, all single-cells, just as the two that started the process, along with other factors, working together to facilitate the incarnate excellence of a greater whole through their union and in constant maintenance of that union.
I thought I sent a message to the group that had links and quotes in it that can further address this, though it seems I did not, yet, so below please find more information that can facilitate discovering more about both the life force pervading the universe, one which Yogananda referred to as "Lifetrons" and has been aluded to by other gurus as well.
Microwaves and MicroVitaI just discovered this young person's experiment
in using microwave oven in relation to growing new life.  In life
generally, considering microwaves are 'radiation', and ever since I
learned about 
MicroVita * (click me)

, I've been doubtful of using microwave ovens.  Perhaps you should be too after you've taken a look at this experiment:  

http://MicrowaveThis.Shows.it/ 
 
I'm confident you too may want to reconsider, as I have, cooking
your food using microwave ovens.  Convenient, sure, though other forms
of toxic waste are convenient too, or we wouldn't continue using those
either.

 
*  The concept of
MicroVita is proposed as the basis for a new scientific paradigm on
your horizon. MicroVita are subtle, sub-microscopic living entities
that organise energy to create forms, structures and processes
throughout the universe. While millions of MicroVita may compose one
electron,  MicroVita as a life force are parallel to virae, yet much
smaller, and will help explain the origin of life and evolution of
species through the creation and modification of new genes. The
interplay between positive and negative MicroVita in the human body and
mind explains the causes of disease, and suggests a new approach to
health. (If you want the whole article from which this comes, contact me with 

{
MicroVita Research
} in the subject line.

)
 
(excerpts from other MicroVita articles)
 
MicroVitum is the
inner secret of life, the inner secret of vital progress in the three
fields of physicality, psyche and spirituality.  This theory of
MicroVita cannot be neglected or ignored.  Many chemical formulae are
to be changed, many structures in the entire universe are to undergo
metamorphosis.  The entire world is eagerly waiting for this all-round
metamorphosis. 
 
The application of
MicroVita in the practical field will bring about radical changes in
various chemical formulae.  Now the question is, what sort of change or
metamorphosis will take place?  Up till now the concept of physical
science was that carbon atoms are indispensable for the origin of
life.  After people are acquainted with the theory of MicroVita, they
will no longer subscribe to the old concepts.  People will be
introduced to higher and subtler formulae than the present ones
regarding the internal structure of objects. 
 
According to the
modern biologists, protoplasmic cells are made of carbon atoms, but in
the MicroVita age the biologist will say that the protoplasmic cells
are not made of carbon atoms, rather they are the collective solidified
form of innumerable MicroVita.  By controlling the MicroVita of the
protoplasmic cells, major changes can be effected within the human
body.  Ordinary people can be made extraordinary.  Their mental
qualities and capabilities can be enlarged by supplying MicroVita in
sufficient quantity.  That is to say, the theory of MicroVita has
immense potentialities in introducing numerous changes in human
society.  By changing MicroVita, ectoplasmic changes will come which in
turn will bring about endoplasmic change, and thus the mind will be
able to control the organism, the physical body, in a better way. 
 
Consequently, there
will be 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-22 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Too late, Judy. :)

Shoulda said, "Don't embarrass yourself *further*,"
I guess.  We've all done it at one time or another,
goodness knows.

It does sound very weird.  The great physicist 
Richard Feynman said of quantum mechanics, "Do not
keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid
it, 'But how can it be like that?' because you will
get 'down the drain' into a blind alley from which
nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can be
like that."

What New Age types like Talbot make of Aspect's
famous experiment is something else again.  Exactly
*because* "nobody knows how it can be like that,"
folks feel free to speculate.  Talbot's is
certainly an *appealing* speculation, but it's no
more than that.

Aspect's experiment, however, is seminal.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
Too late, Judy. :)

Sal


On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:32 AM, authfriend wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> And the last time somebody went 10 billion miles to test this 
was...?
> 
> This has overtones of the TMO's 
> this-is-the-most-important-theory-in-the-universe...

Don't embarrass yourself, Sal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-22 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> And the last time somebody went 10 billion miles to test this 
was...?
> 
> This has overtones of the TMO's 
> this-is-the-most-important-theory-in-the-universe...

Don't embarrass yourself, Sal.


> 
> Sal
> 
> 
> On Apr 22, 2006, at 2:57 AM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
> 
> >  Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances 
> > subatomic
> >  particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously 
communicate 
> > with
> >  each other regardless of the distance separating them.  It 
doesn't 
> > matter
> >  whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.
>










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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot

2006-04-22 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> And the last time somebody went 10 billion miles to test this 
was...?
> 
> This has overtones of the TMO's 
> this-is-the-most-important-theory-in-the-universe...
> 
> Sal

It's also a standard part of Quantum Mechanics theory and has been 
for 75+ years or so. There's no known way of using this fact to 
communicate information over long distances, BTW. Testing to see what 
one electron or whatever is doing, means you've modified the other 
one also so whoever tests first destroys any info the other person 
wanted to send.


> 
> 
> On Apr 22, 2006, at 2:57 AM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:
> 
> >  Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances 
> > subatomic
> >  particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously 
communicate 
> > with
> >  each other regardless of the distance separating them.  It 
doesn't 
> > matter
> >  whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.
>










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