[FairfieldLife] Re: The final collapse of capitalism end of june/july 2010 ?

2010-06-04 Thread yifuxero

Nope...not going to happen.  Look to DUNE and other Sci Fi sources (such as 
some of the Star Treks); to observe various economic models of those on the 
futuristic earth and other planets.  Even in the most austere of conditions, 
barter economies will remain (being a primitive type of capitalism). Today in 
the US, barter arrangements are more popular than ever, some groups even 
sanctioned by banks. The exchanges involved trading time (donate your hours of 
expertise to the group in exchange for time credits that you can draw upon for 
the skills of other members).
The most advanced system of economics is (of course) in the Feringi planet; all 
ardent capitalists and skilled traders.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - His Holiness
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The final collapse of capitalism end of june/july 2010 ?

2010-06-04 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 
 Nope...not going to happen.  Look to DUNE and other Sci Fi sources (such as 
 some of the Star Treks); to observe various economic models of those on the 
 futuristic earth and other planets.  Even in the most austere of conditions, 
 barter economies will remain (being a primitive type of capitalism). Today 
 in the US, barter arrangements are more popular than ever, some groups even 
 sanctioned by banks. The exchanges involved trading time (donate your hours 
 of expertise to the group in exchange for time credits that you can draw upon 
 for the skills of other members).
 The most advanced system of economics is (of course) in the Feringi planet; 
 all ardent capitalists and skilled traders.

You are right. And bartering does not rape nations or cultures, it simply 
fulfills a need of peoples without the need for money.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The final collapse of capitalism end of june/july 2010 ?

2010-06-04 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
  
  Nope...not going to happen.  Look to DUNE and other Sci Fi sources (such as 
  some of the Star Treks); to observe various economic models of those on the 
  futuristic earth and other planets.  Even in the most austere of 
  conditions, barter economies will remain (being a primitive type of 
  capitalism). Today in the US, barter arrangements are more popular than 
  ever, some groups even sanctioned by banks. The exchanges involved trading 
  time (donate your hours of expertise to the group in exchange for time 
  credits that you can draw upon for the skills of other members).
  The most advanced system of economics is (of course) in the Feringi planet; 
  all ardent capitalists and skilled traders.
 
 You are right. And bartering does not rape nations or cultures, it simply 
 fulfills a need of peoples without the need for money.

Which ofcourse is the end of capitalism :-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The final collapse of capitalism end of june/july 2010 ?

2010-06-04 Thread Bhairitu
nablusoss1008 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote:
 
 Nope...not going to happen.  Look to DUNE and other Sci Fi sources (such as 
 some of the Star Treks); to observe various economic models of those on the 
 futuristic earth and other planets.  Even in the most austere of 
 conditions, barter economies will remain (being a primitive type of 
 capitalism). Today in the US, barter arrangements are more popular than 
 ever, some groups even sanctioned by banks. The exchanges involved trading 
 time (donate your hours of expertise to the group in exchange for time 
 credits that you can draw upon for the skills of other members).
 The most advanced system of economics is (of course) in the Feringi planet; 
 all ardent capitalists and skilled traders.
   
 You are right. And bartering does not rape nations or cultures, it simply 
 fulfills a need of peoples without the need for money.
 

 Which ofcourse is the end of capitalism :-)

I get so fed up with the abuses of capitalism I wouldn't mind seeing it 
all go away.  Seems like karmic justice.  It's easily gamed by 
confidence men and so many of the giant megabusinesses operate like 
organized crime and probably VERY intentionally.  Over the years I've 
watched corporate execs adopt whatever they can get away with including 
drug dealer oriented business models (very popular in the US, just look 
at Comcast cable).   And this wasn't from my armchair but sometimes 
sitting in a boardroom.  It's cutthroat capitalism that needs to be 
abolished.  Small business is okay but these giant companies are just 
dinosaurs behaving like Frankenstein monsters.  And they aren't needed 
anymore because you can even build a Boeing jet without manufacturing 
all the parts (as a recent online report pointed out).  These days such 
companies assemble parts from other vendors.  So you could even have 
regional or local car assembly plants, possibly franchised ones.

Barter won't work because it is too inconvenient.  People will still 
want some convenient medium of exchange.  That's why currency came into 
being.  What you may want to resist is running on totally electronic 
funds which they keep trying to sell you in sci-fi movies.  Problem is 
if they don't like you for some reason you can be shut off and maybe 
even starve to death.

BTW, those without Facebook accounts can't see those pages (and I'm not 
going to get one just to see them).



[FairfieldLife] Re: The final collapse of capitalism end of june/july 2010 ?

2010-06-04 Thread WillyTex


Bhairitu:
 BTW, those without Facebook accounts can't see 
 those pages (and I'm not going to get one just 
 to see them).

So, you don't want anyone to see your face?

Why not start your own social network - you could 
call it 'MyFace'. Then just upload a picture of 
your face with a text box below it so others could 
make a comment on your face. It would be very simple 
and you'd be a millionaire within a year. Except 
you don't like capitalism, so you probably won't do
it - you're averse to making money, right?