[FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:44 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness 
through the
> >>> crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is 
the
> >>> way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the 
affiliation,
> >>> even 'lowly' TMers... ;)
> >>>
> >>
> >> While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of
> >> transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the
> >> moment of death.
> >>
> >
> > I don't know exactly what you mean by the signs... The normal 
flow of
> > energy is upward and through the crown, anyway, so at the moment 
of
> > death, why should it be any different?
> 
> The signs of having opened the aperture of Brahman.

That was my assumption.
> 
> Of course you also have to know and understand the signs of death  
> when to apply the method/technique itself. Otherwise you are  
> essentially committing suicide.
> 
> There may be further considerations. If your country is being 
invaded  
> by beings who want to destroy your gnosis, your practice and the 
fact  
> that being drug off to the torture chamber may be looming; should 
you  
> leave and reincarnate consciously in another country where the 
dharma  
> can be found and there is no war? Many Tibetan monks did just that.
> 
Very interesting. Thanks.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-06 Thread Vaj


On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:44 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:  Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation, even 'lowly' TMers... ;)  While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of   transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the   moment of death.  I don't know exactly what you mean by the signs... The normal flow of  energy is upward and through the crown, anyway, so at the moment of  death, why should it be any different?The signs of having opened the aperture of Brahman.Of course you also have to know and understand the signs of death when to apply the method/technique itself. Otherwise you are essentially committing suicide.There may be further considerations. If your country is being invaded by beings who want to destroy your gnosis, your practice and the fact that being drug off to the torture chamber may be looming; should you leave and reincarnate consciously in another country where the dharma can be found and there is no war? Many Tibetan monks did just that.  There's always trepanning. :-0  ouch...I'll just stick to combing my hair, thanks... 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> 
> > Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the
> > crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the
> > way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation,
> > even 'lowly' TMers... ;)
> 
> While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of  
> transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the  
> moment of death.

I don't know exactly what you mean by the signs... The normal flow of 
energy is upward and through the crown, anyway, so at the moment of 
death, why should it be any different?
 
> There's always trepanning. :-0

ouch...I'll just stick to combing my hair, thanks...
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-05 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


snip

> There's always trepanning. :-0
>



Do you have a favorite link?  ) :-0

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-05 Thread Vaj


On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:56 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the   crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the  way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation,  even 'lowly' TMers... ;) While anything is possible, unless you achieved the signs of transference in this life, it is unlikely you will do so at the moment of death.There's always trepanning. :-0





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death

2005-12-05 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Transference of Consciousness at the Time of Death
> 

Thought provoking stuff. Interesting that the monk writing this 
advocates giving away everything prior to death. Seems a little odd, 
since you certainly give it away afterwards, anyway...And if we 
aren't ready to give all of our material posessions away, but do so 
regardless, it creates an even greater attachment to them.

Also to say Hitler can end up in a good place following these 
techniques may be true hypothetically, but it begs the question, why 
did he do all of that evil stuff while he was alive, and given that, 
why would he want to concentrate on releasing consciousness from his 
crown? He'd likely instead be preoccupied with his 
unspeakable "achievements", keeping him naturally in the lower 
regions...

Last, the way to a pure land by releasing consciousness through the  
crown is not special to any kind of Buddhist techniques. It is the 
way any realized being leaves the body, whatever the affiliation, 
even 'lowly' TMers... ;)






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