Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On 06/05/2011 07:59 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > Bhairitu: >> And what are those jobs you're going to >> create? >> > Most of the new jobs will be in the medical > sector taking care of old people, and high > tech jobs going to young people. The high tech sector should be hiring experienced people and making young people apprentices. Young people have no edge on technology. They just believe they do. Too much politics in the medical sector as all the opportunists jump in to fill their rice bowls. > "Throughout history, poverty is the normal > condition of man. Advances which permit > this norm to be exceeded- here and there, > now and then- are the work of an extremely > small minority, frequently despised, often > condemned, and almost always opposed by > all right-thinking people. > > Whenever this tiny minority is kept from > creating, or (as sometimes happens) is > driven out of a society, the people then > slip back into abject poverty..." > > - Robert Heinlein Society probably doesn't need so much "future shock." We could put technology on pause for a couple centuries a be just fine. Most of the populace can't keep up with technical advances. Then there's simple living too which is not poverty. Americans were sold an extravagant, unsustainable standard of living. One could also sell them "simple living" to which is sustainable and still comfortable. An attempt to do this was made before the fire breathing dragon Reagan took office.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Bhairitu: > And what are those jobs you're going to > create? > Most of the new jobs will be in the medical sector taking care of old people, and high tech jobs going to young people. "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty..." - Robert Heinlein
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On 06/03/2011 10:20 AM, WillyTex wrote: > >>> According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for >>> have dropped the ball on the economy. >>> > Bhairitu: >> And the Republicans created the mess in the first >> place... >> > Not according to most U.S. economists! > > "It's been over two years since the Democrat-led > Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it > squarely in violation of the law. So when will the > arrests begin?" > > We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because > the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a > budget or take meaningful steps to head off our > looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a > national disgrace..." > > 'Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess' > http://tinyurl.com/3pd9wgc That's ignoring that a Republican administration started the Afghanistan and Iraq wars costing this country trillions! And it was a Republican administration that pushed the bail out in the fall of 2008. The Republicans have a conspiracy running at the behest of their wealthy contributors to bankrupt the American middle class so they can buy their properties for pennies on the dollar. The only way to get out of this will be a full scale revolution. And what are those jobs you're going to create? You seem to want to wuss out of answering that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
> > According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for > > have dropped the ball on the economy. > > Bhairitu: > And the Republicans created the mess in the first > place... > Not according to most U.S. economists! "It's been over two years since the Democrat-led Senate last passed a budget, a fact that puts it squarely in violation of the law. So when will the arrests begin?" We say that only partly tongue in cheek, because the refusal of Democrats in Congress to pass a budget or take meaningful steps to head off our looming fiscal disaster is nothing short of a national disgrace..." 'Dems Refuse To Deal With Their Fiscal Mess' http://tinyurl.com/3pd9wgc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
> > Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans > > are going to vote for... > > Bhairitu: > Romney will never win as Americans won't vote for a > cult member. > You're not making any sense. What would a candidate's faith have to do with U.S. job creation? > > "Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the > > federal government to take bold action to ward off a double > > dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets > > while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting > > the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year > > or two..." > > > > Read more: > > > > 'Back towards a US double-dip' > > By Robert Reich > > http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On 06/02/2011 09:06 AM, WillyTex wrote: > >>> I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek >>> cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers >>> $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying >>> American are over - it's a global economy now. >>> >>> These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's >>> no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's >>> looking like GE has taken control of the White House and >>> some of our news media! >>> >>> It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and >>> foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think >>> about who you're voting for next time! >>> >>> "We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference >>> between the competitiveness of these companies and the >>> competitiveness of America and American workers." >>> - Robert Reich >>> > Bhairitu: >> Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting >> Robert Reich... >> > Your political views are radically extreme, but mine are > mainstream and practical: create jobs so people can make > good money and pay their own way. You are not going to get > that by starting a revolution - you'd go broke in a week > and probably starve to death in a month. What kind of jobs are you going to create, Willy? We'd all like to know? :-D What happens when all the work needed is done? > According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped > the ball on the economy. And the Republicans created the mess in the first place. It's kinda like they had a party and then expect the Democrats to clean up after it. > Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans > are going to vote for. None of your economic ideas are > going to be practical - like starting a revolution - that's > not going to happen, since we already have a democracy. The > last thing most American voters want is a revolt in the > streets. > Romney will never win as Americans won't vote for a cult member. Might as well run John Hagelin again. > People want to make good money, not participate in a radical > protest over the global profits of GE. You don't even take > part in a tea-party protest! You're all hat, no cattle. Sure folks want a good income but if someone stands in their way they will eventually push them out of the way even if it takes a revolution. Wake up! The establishment is standing in our way. BTW Willy, serfs never were rich. > > "Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the > federal government to take bold action to ward off a double > dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets > while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting > the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year > or two..." > > Read more: > > 'Back towards a US double-dip' > By Robert Reich > http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp And do so by getting rid of Republicans who also stand in the way. You need some smarts Willy. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
> > I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek > > cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers > > $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying > > American are over - it's a global economy now. > > > > These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's > > no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's > > looking like GE has taken control of the White House and > > some of our news media! > > > > It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and > > foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think > > about who you're voting for next time! > > > > "We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference > > between the competitiveness of these companies and the > > competitiveness of America and American workers." > > - Robert Reich > > Bhairitu: > Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting > Robert Reich... > Your political views are radically extreme, but mine are mainstream and practical: create jobs so people can make good money and pay their own way. You are not going to get that by starting a revolution - you'd go broke in a week and probably starve to death in a month. According Robert Reich, the Dems you voted for have dropped the ball on the economy. Romney is all about job creation and that is what Americans are going to vote for. None of your economic ideas are going to be practical - like starting a revolution - that's not going to happen, since we already have a democracy. The last thing most American voters want is a revolt in the streets. People want to make good money, not participate in a radical protest over the global profits of GE. You don't even take part in a tea-party protest! You're all hat, no cattle. "Under normal circumstances, this would be the time for the federal government to take bold action to ward off a double dip. For example, it could put more cash in peoples' pockets while giving employers an extra incentive to hire by exempting the first $20,000 of earnings from payroll taxes, for a year or two..." Read more: 'Back towards a US double-dip' By Robert Reich http://tinyurl.com/5sbj6gp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On 06/01/2011 10:39 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek > cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers > $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying > American are over - it's a global economy now. > > These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's > no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's > looking like GE has taken control of the White House and > some of our news media! > > It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and > foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think > about who you're voting for next time! > > "We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference > between the competitiveness of these companies and the > competitiveness of America and American workers." > - Robert Reich Willy really is all over the map isn't he? He's now quoting Robert Reich. Voting only an illusion any more. Your vote is manipulated. How many of us voted for "change" and didn't get it? Revolutions foment when you oppress the working class. That's what happened in Russia. People were working long hours and only to get part of a loaf of bread when wheat harvests were just fine. They had it with the oligarchs. And the oligarchs got their just desserts. Can it happen here? Hard to say but the shit is REALLY about to hit the fan. I was listening to reports over the weekend on MAINSTREAM media and if you could send those back in time a few years people wouldn't believe what they were hearing. Back then you were considered a "kook" if you suggested that we may be headed for a very bad depression. This is what I said here in 2006: "I predict that the US is in for a big scale depression much that will make the Depression of the 1930's look like a Sunday picnic. It has to happen as the US lives on too high a standard of living to continue. We consume seven times the resources we should. There could have been a kind way to readjust the economy for this which I think was what was in mind at the end of the 1970's before Reagan came along and screwed things up. But so many Americans are just so spoiled and living in an illusion anyway the painful way will be good since it will wake them up." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/105401 Fast forward ahead to this article today on CNBC: "Interest rates are amazingly low and that, thanks to Ben Bernanke, is driving everything," Yastrow said. "We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it. http://www.cnbc.com/id/43236764 Get ready to live in Third World Amerika. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
> > > > > On another forum someone posted about today > > > > > being a day to celebrate those who fought > > > > > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > > > > > and revolutions for liberty..." > > > > > > > > > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > > > > unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers > > > > who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites > > > > that pay no federal taxes. > > > > > > > You mean the parasites like General Electric who > > > pay no federal taxes? > > > > > So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that > > creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees > > because the employees have to pay federal income tax? > > > > > And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. > > > > > What would your revolution slogan be? "We pay no > > federal taxes and we want to pay even less?" Or, "We > > revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money?" > > > > Go figure. > > raunchydog: > What jobs? GE has cut 20,000 American jobs over the > previous decade. "And now we have the U.S. government > paying GE billions of dollars after that company makes > billions in profit. GE has transformed from a major > company working towards labor rights to a financial > services conglomerate whose modern business plan has > not benefited the average American." Go figure. > I figure the unions have driven many companies to seek cheap labor overseas. Who wants to pay assembly workers $30 an hour plus benefits? I think the days of buying American are over - it's a global economy now. These are liberals like President Obama at work - there's no more 'American Business Patriotism' these days. It's looking like GE has taken control of the White House and some of our news media! It's not going to do any good to yell and scream and foment a 'revolution' like Bhairitu wants - just think about who you're voting for next time! "We've got to understand there's a fundamental difference between the competitiveness of these companies and the competitiveness of America and American workers." - Robert Reich
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > On another forum someone posted about today > > > > being a day to celebrate those who fought > > > > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > > > > and revolutions for liberty..." > > > > > > > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > > > unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers > > > who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites > > > that pay no federal taxes. > > > > Bhairitu: > > You mean the parasites like General Electric who > > pay no federal taxes? > > > So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that > creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees > because the employees have to pay federal income tax? > > > And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. > > > What would your revolution slogan be? "We pay no > federal taxes and we want to pay even less?" Or, "We > revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money?" > > Go figure. > What jobs? GE has cut 20,000 American jobs over the previous decade. "And now we have the U.S. government paying GE billions of dollars after that company makes billions in profit. GE has transformed from a major company working towards labor rights to a financial services conglomerate whose modern business plan has not benefited the average American." Go figure. http://increaseourtaxes.com/the-political-economy-of-general-electric/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
> > > On another forum someone posted about today > > > being a day to celebrate those who fought > > > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > > > and revolutions for liberty..." > > > > > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > > unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers > > who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites > > that pay no federal taxes. > > Bhairitu: > You mean the parasites like General Electric who > pay no federal taxes? > So, you're thinking that a company like GE, that creates jobs, would have a revolt by it's employees because the employees have to pay federal income tax? > And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. > What would your revolution slogan be? "We pay no federal taxes and we want to pay even less?" Or, "We revolt because GE creates jobs that pay good money?" Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On another forum someone posted about today being a day to celebrate > those who fought for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit and > revolutions for liberty." Today on my way to the waterfront park I > encountered a big crowd at the memorial where the street split about 2 > miles from here. Usually at these there are about 20 people but today > it looked like 200. Don't know why the big crowd and I doubt that > locals suddenly got some sense of militarism. Maybe Congressman George > Miller showed up and people wanted to yell at him to fix the economy (he > is very anti-war). > > Then while walking at the park I hear what sounds like a jet and a low > flying military jet transport flies overhead. There is an Air Force > base about 20 miles away those fly in an out of. This one made a swing > around the area where the memorial was and flew on. Then another flyby > just as I was finishing my walk and flew on south. On the radio I heard > people were calling in concerned but that it was a scheduled fly over > for some of today's events. > > Your tax dollars at work. > Van Halen - Dreams (Blue Angels Version) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwi8m4SIejE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
On 05/31/2011 09:48 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > Bhairitu: >> On another forum someone posted about today >> being a day to celebrate those who fought >> for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit >> and revolutions for liberty..." >> > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., > unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers > who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites > that pay no federal taxes. You mean the parasites like General Electric who pay no federal taxes? Or the parasites who sit by their swimming pools and clip coupons and live on their dividends? Yup, you're probably right. And it's the young we are motivating to revolution. Otherwise they have no future.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Bhairitu: > On another forum someone posted about today > being a day to celebrate those who fought > for liberty. I replied "wars are for profit > and revolutions for liberty..." > You sound pretty hopeful, but in the U.S., unlike over in Europe, it's usually the taxpayers who are behind the revolutions, not the parasites that pay no federal taxes. "The anger that fueled the Arab Spring is now boiling over in Europe. Could club-wielding protesters be in America's future, too?" http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/29/mad-as-hell.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars are for profit, revolutions for liberty
Bhairitu: > Your tax dollars at work... > Oh my Gawd, a jet plane flew over and disturbed the liberal hippies in the park on Memorial Day. This is just outrageous!!! "Police said the gang members are part of a group of more than 1,000 youths who have used social media sites like Facebook to plan unruly gatherings on the beach on three of the past four nights..." 'Fights break out at Carson Beach' http://tinyurl.com/3nhasaj
