[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-02-02 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
I wouldn't characterize Feste's motives as completely compassionate if I were 
you. IMO he's just missing the days in which the name of the FFL game was "pile 
on Barry," and he's trying to do whatever he can to start that meme back up 
again.  :-)

Maybe it's not all about you, Barry - maybe it's all about Richard's messages. 

Apparently you and James don't understand this because you've failed to keep up 
- I'm not sure how James could have read all 10,000 of my posts to FFL since 
2003 - he must be a really fast reader! James seems to want to join in the FFL 
conversation and he seems like a decent guy, but maybe he is prejudice against 
people from Texas - which would be weird since you're from Texas too. Go figure.

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Isn't it fascinating that the thing that has *elevated* the level of discourse 
on Fairfield Life so much during the past month or so is the *absence* from it 
of a number of people who used to characterize those they didn't like as 
"negative." I suspect this says something about who was actually negative and 
who was not.  :-)

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We all wear masks here on FFL, some of them benign, some of them grotesque, 
but behind them, and then behind the masks that we make for outselves in real 
life, we are all the same— or at least, not too dissimilar. Is this not so? I 
took Richard's part because he was subjected to a raft of posts condemning him, 
especially from our friend across the water, and I thought that I would express 
some appreciation of him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think your concern for Richard is genuine, but mistaken. In any case, there 
are many other ways to show your concern than to condemn me as being 
'mean-spirited' (an approach, as I have pointed out, you use regularly here), 
or to make wildly mistaken statements about addiction. 
 
 You also assume that my comments affect Richard negatively and that your 
response will have some sort of soothing effect. My assumption is completely 
the opposite: Richard cares nothing about you, me, or anyone else here on FFL.  
See my original post for why I think this way.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I thought your post about Richard was somewhat cruel, and I was trying to 
soften the impact  so that Serious Richard might feel a little less unwelcome 
here. You are of course correct about a difference between routine behaviors 
and addiction. But I am unconvinced that Serious Richard is any more addicted 
to posting to FFL than a number of other posters here. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feste, 

Your response has many inaccuracies and incorrect assumptions, many of which 
arise from your lack of understanding of what addiction is:

Routine activities - 'things we like to do on a regular basis' - are not 
addictions, and your statement that they are is complete nonsense. In this 
statement alone, you lose all credibility. You have no understanding of what 
constitutes addiction. 

Your notion that assessing or recognizing a behavior is an addiction as being 
'mean-spirited' is again, quite simply, nonsense. Apart from assigning to me a 
motivation that I don't have, your statement indicates that your perceptions of 
addiction (likely unacknowledged on your part) are that addiction is a moral 
failing or is being used as a 'put down'.

You live in Fairfield. Considering events in FF over the last few years. I 
suggest to you that you examine such perceptions, and to put it bluntly, that 
you gain some rudimentary knowledge and see both how incorrect and offensive 
these perceptions are.  

In fact, if you care to read Serious Richard's posts, you will surely see they 
are intelligent and well thought out. 

Not surprisingly, I disagree with you that Richard's posts have been 
'intelligent and well thought out'. However, more revealing to me is your 
arrogant assumption that I have not read them. Do you really think I would 
comment about someone's posts if I hadn't read them? 

No, I dont think that you do. But this is in line with your assignment of 
'mean-spirited' motivations to Michael, Barry, me, and others when we have made 
comments that you do not like. 

Feel free to assign whatever motivations you want  to me (FFL is the perfect 
place for this)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 So, it's all about "WillyTex." Go figure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
 

 I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

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 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]
You seem to be really taking this posting thing seriously. It's supposed to be 
fun - something to do while you're at work or in between watching TV re-runs. 

Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. I promise not 
to make fun of your religion or politics anymore. Sorry I hurt your feelings 
and wasted your time when you could have been watching Star Trek. LoL!

But, you have to admit that talking about science and practicing TM at the same 
time  - praying to the Hindu gods - is kind of funny. Sometimes it can be 
difficult working through the cognitive dissonance. Do you do the TM 2 x 24? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

Wise move, everyone else should just ignore him. If he wants to waste his dumb 
life trolling here until Rick boots him again it's his own stupid fault.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I shall happily add this new email address to the "Route straight to the trash"
 

 From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 You are not even making any sense - Ranger Walker was based in the Ft. 
Worth-Dallas area, not in San Antonio and the Texas Rangers are based in 
Austin. The only woods around here are in the city of San Antonio Parks and 
Recreation Dept. 

Maybe you were thinking about "The Lone Ranger", who drew his alias from once 
having been a Texas Ranger himself. From what I've read "the Lone Ranger was 
the only surviving member of a posse of six Texas Rangers whose other five 
members (including his own older brother, a Texas Rangers captain) were killed 
in a massacre at Bryant's Gap." Go figure.

Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division
 
 Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encycl... 
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commonly called the Texas Rangers, is a law enforcement agency with statewide 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is g

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 Thank you. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I shall happily add this new email address to the "Route straight to the trash"
 

 From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 You are not even making any sense - Ranger Walker was based in the Ft. 
Worth-Dallas area, not in San Antonio and the Texas Rangers are based in 
Austin. The only woods around here are in the city of San Antonio Parks and 
Recreation Dept. 

Maybe you were thinking about "The Lone Ranger", who drew his alias from once 
having been a Texas Ranger himself. From what I've read "the Lone Ranger was 
the only surviving member of a posse of six Texas Rangers whose other five 
members (including his own older brother, a Texas Rangers captain) were killed 
in a massacre at Bryant's Gap." Go figure.

Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division
 
 Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encycl... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division The Texas Ranger Division, 
commonly called the Texas Rangers, is a law enforcement agency with statewide 
jurisdiction in Texas, based in the capit...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retir

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 
 He is the one in the show who usually gets his teeth kicked out by Chuck Norris
 

 Actually, Willytex's *politics* 
>
I've always considered my political views to be middle-of-the-road and I would 
always vote for compromise so we can all work together - it's not very 
productive to be be a proponent of division, always seeing things in just black 
and white and putting labels on people. 
>
 are more along the lines of Chuck Norris, who has turned into a rabid 
Chrisschun right-winger, even a few cans shorter of a six-pack than Ted Nugent. 
>
Dividing people into groups and folders marked "fluff" and "Willytex". And, 
labels like "Christschun" and "right-winger". As for Norris there are several 
things we don't agree on such as the war on drugs and cannabis legalization, 
but we do agree that it is important to vote and the need for a strong 
self-defense.

 

 Fascinatingly enough, back in the 60s I once got to face off against Chuck 
Norris in a no-contact karate contest. It was my first contest, and I was a 
lowly brown belt thrown into the black belt category because they didn't have 
enough entrants to have a separate brown belt competition. I managed to whup my 
first black belt opponent, and was thus feeling pretty spunky and invincible 
when the time came for my second match, and out walked this other black belt. I 
didn't know him from Adam. He not only went on to win the contest that day, but 
went on to win his first World Championship that year. Our match lasted less 
than thirty seconds. I put on my fiercest warrior face and tried to stare him 
down and he laughed and pulled one of those spinning double back kicks on me 
and pulled it about a quarter-inch from my chin. I didn't even see it coming, 
he was that fast. 

 

 But being good at karate clearly doesn't mean that you're good at being a 
human being. He has since said many of the dumbest and most despicable things a 
human being can, and seems proud of saying them. 

 

 


 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
 

 I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread salyavin808


Wise move, everyone else should just ignore him. If he wants to waste his dumb 
life trolling here until Rick boots him again it's his own stupid fault.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I shall happily add this new email address to the "Route straight to the trash"
 

 From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 You are not even making any sense - Ranger Walker was based in the Ft. 
Worth-Dallas area, not in San Antonio and the Texas Rangers are based in 
Austin. The only woods around here are in the city of San Antonio Parks and 
Recreation Dept. 

Maybe you were thinking about "The Lone Ranger", who drew his alias from once 
having been a Texas Ranger himself. From what I've read "the Lone Ranger was 
the only surviving member of a posse of six Texas Rangers whose other five 
members (including his own older brother, a Texas Rangers captain) were killed 
in a massacre at Bryant's Gap." Go figure.

Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division
 
 Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encycl... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division The Texas Ranger Division, 
commonly called the Texas Rangers, is a law enforcement agency with statewide 
jurisdiction in Texas, based in the capit...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement communit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Exactly what Salyavin said. 

 

 As far as I can tell, the charge of "obsession" falls completely on the 
shoulders of those who are so attached to their beliefs and so petty as to get 
uptight when they encounter ideas contrary to their own. Bitching about others 
having such ideas is weird, and IMO the sign of a weak mind. Becoming *so* 
uptight about it that they feel the need to try to *silence* the contrary ideas 
-- and then, when that doesn't work, run away and form a forum where no one is 
*allowed* to express contrary ideas -- is the sign of religious fanaticism. 
>
You did seem to get uptight and run away from the un-moderated Usenet forum to 
the moderated FFL forum on Yahoo. I guess you got upset when I questioned your 
veracity concerning your *obsession* with Rama levitation events. You got real 
*silent* about your witnessing. Go figure.

Apparently your weak mental state just couldn't take any close scientific 
inquiry - it looks like your religious beliefs won't allow any questioning of 
your faith, even if it has been demonstrated not to work or even to be true. 

I mean, if you can't poke fun at yourself for believing in bun-hopping and 
levitation, you must be a religious fanatic. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, 
but I guess questioning human flying isn't *allowed* in your religion - a sure 
sign of Rama fantacism. LoL!
>

 

 As Curtis and I (and Sal) have said many, many times -- and as the religious 
fanatics refuse to believe -- we come here for FUN. It's an "alma mater" kinda 
place, as Sal suggested. Here we can talk about things we *used to* take 
seriously but don't any more, and we can explore those ideas in more depth now 
that we're not part of a cult that's trying to keep us *from* exploring them 
more deeply. 

 

 If there is an "obsession" here, I suggest it's on the part of those who 
literally HATE the people who express ideas contrary to the TM/MMY dogma, but 
who keep reading every word they write, just so they can get off on the 
righteous indignation they've become addicted to. I have no more respect for 
them than I do for the idiots who feel that killing cartoonists is their 
divinely-given right. 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

   
 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 


 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  


 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 






















Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I shall happily add this new email address to the "Route straight to the trash"

  From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 12:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    
You are not even making any sense - Ranger Walker was based in the Ft. 
Worth-Dallas area, not in San Antonio and the Texas Rangers are based in 
Austin. The only woods around here are in the city of San Antonio Parks and 
Recreation Dept. 

Maybe you were thinking about "The Lone Ranger", who drew his alias from once 
having been a Texas Ranger himself. From what I've read "the Lone Ranger was 
the only surviving member of a posse of six Texas Rangers whose other five 
members (including his own older brother, a Texas Rangers captain) were killed 
in a massacre at Bryant's Gap." Go figure.

Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
||
||||   Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free 
encycl...  The Texas Ranger Division, commonly called the Texas Rangers, is a 
law enforcement agency with statewide jurisdiction in Texas, based in the 
capit...||
|  View on en.wikipedia.org  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since I 
was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
|  |
| View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] R

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-30 Thread rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]

 You are not even making any sense - Ranger Walker was based in the Ft. 
Worth-Dallas area, not in San Antonio and the Texas Rangers are based in 
Austin. The only woods around here are in the city of San Antonio Parks and 
Recreation Dept. 

Maybe you were thinking about "The Lone Ranger", who drew his alias from once 
having been a Texas Ranger himself. From what I've read "the Lone Ranger was 
the only surviving member of a posse of six Texas Rangers whose other five 
members (including his own older brother, a Texas Rangers captain) were killed 
in a massacre at Bryant's Gap." Go figure.

Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division 
 
 Texas Ranger Division - Wikipedia, the free encycl... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division The Texas Ranger Division, 
commonly called the Texas Rangers, is a law enforcement agency with statewide 
jurisdiction in Texas, based in the capit...
 
 
 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Ranger_Division 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
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 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The Peace Palaces at this location, not burning, was attributed  to *proper 
vastu* etc. I attributed it to the land being cleared of vegetation around the 
buildings.
  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    "Losing" these properties to fires IS a bit of a suspicious trend for an 
organization that claims near-absolute "support of nature." The same thing 
happened to the TMO facility in San Jacinto in Southern California. I actually 
liked that facility, because it was a former motel and -- while not at all 
fancy -- in better shape than many of the facilities they built themselves. But 
it got hit by a canyon fire, which is a phenomenon that people who haven't 
lived in desert areas don't understand. It's a fire that moves at 50+ miles per 
hour due to the winds.  



 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    U Bevan? 
 

 From: "jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
  
    Yeah, but who started the forest fire?? "Capture the fort to destroy the 
host" and all that we heard about for year. Looks very suspicious to me 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 wonder who set that fire?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"Losing" these properties to fires IS a bit of a suspicious trend for an 
organization that claims near-absolute "support of nature." The same thing 
happened to the TMO facility in San Jacinto in Southern California. I actually 
liked that facility, because it was a former motel and -- while not at all 
fancy -- in better shape than many of the facilities they built themselves. But 
it got hit by a canyon fire, which is a phenomenon that people who haven't 
lived in desert areas don't understand. It's a fire that moves at 50+ miles per 
hour due to the winds.  

 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    U Bevan? 
 

 From: "jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
  
    Yeah, but who started the forest fire?? "Capture the fort to destroy the 
host" and all that we heard about for year. Looks very suspicious to me 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 wonder who set that fire?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches





  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
U Bevan? 
  From: "jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    Yeah, but who started the forest fire?? "Capture the fort to destroy the 
host" and all that we heard about for year. Looks very suspicious to me 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 wonder who set that fire?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I never knew anything about his politics and all - sometimes I just watch one 
of his awful movies just to make fun of how bad it is - usually I can only take 
about 10 minutes of one before I turn it off. 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


He is the one in the show who usually gets his teeth kicked out by Chuck Norris
Actually, Willytex's *politics* are more along the lines of Chuck Norris, who 
has turned into a rabid Chrisschun right-winger, even a few cans shorter of a 
six-pack than Ted Nugent. 

Fascinatingly enough, back in the 60s I once got to face off against Chuck 
Norris in a no-contact karate contest. It was my first contest, and I was a 
lowly brown belt thrown into the black belt category because they didn't have 
enough entrants to have a separate brown belt competition. I managed to whup my 
first black belt opponent, and was thus feeling pretty spunky and invincible 
when the time came for my second match, and out walked this other black belt. I 
didn't know him from Adam. He not only went on to win the contest that day, but 
went on to win his first World Championship that year. Our match lasted less 
than thirty seconds. I put on my fiercest warrior face and tried to stare him 
down and he laughed and pulled one of those spinning double back kicks on me 
and pulled it about a quarter-inch from my chin. I didn't even see it coming, 
he was that fast. 

But being good at karate clearly doesn't mean that you're good at being a human 
being. He has since said many of the dumbest and most despicable things a human 
being can, and seems proud of saying them. 

 

 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since I 
was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


He is the one in the show who usually gets his teeth kicked out by Chuck Norris
Actually, Willytex's *politics* are more along the lines of Chuck Norris, who 
has turned into a rabid Chrisschun right-winger, even a few cans shorter of a 
six-pack than Ted Nugent. 

Fascinatingly enough, back in the 60s I once got to face off against Chuck 
Norris in a no-contact karate contest. It was my first contest, and I was a 
lowly brown belt thrown into the black belt category because they didn't have 
enough entrants to have a separate brown belt competition. I managed to whup my 
first black belt opponent, and was thus feeling pretty spunky and invincible 
when the time came for my second match, and out walked this other black belt. I 
didn't know him from Adam. He not only went on to win the contest that day, but 
went on to win his first World Championship that year. Our match lasted less 
than thirty seconds. I put on my fiercest warrior face and tried to stare him 
down and he laughed and pulled one of those spinning double back kicks on me 
and pulled it about a quarter-inch from my chin. I didn't even see it coming, 
he was that fast. 

But being good at karate clearly doesn't mean that you're good at being a human 
being. He has since said many of the dumbest and most despicable things a human 
being can, and seems proud of saying them. 

 

 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since I 
was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'er

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
He is the one in the show who usually gets his teeth kicked out by Chuck Norris

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 2:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since I 
was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

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  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Exactly what Salyavin said. 

As far as I can tell, the charge of "obsession" falls completely on the 
shoulders of those who are so attached to their beliefs and so petty as to get 
uptight when they encounter ideas contrary to their own. Bitching about others 
having such ideas is weird, and IMO the sign of a weak mind. Becoming *so* 
uptight about it that they feel the need to try to *silence* the contrary ideas 
-- and then, when that doesn't work, run away and form a forum where no one is 
*allowed* to express contrary ideas -- is the sign of religious fanaticism. 

That's the thing about memes. They can be either productive or destructive, all 
they need is a willing mind to enact them and they become part of a society. 
The TMO - like all religious groups - is what you might call a static society, 
the purpose of the people who have adopted it's way of looking at things is to 
keep things the same. This is because they believe in the core teaching and 
it's the teaching that tells us it is complete and cannot be improved upon, but 
it goes deeper. 
I remember being told that I shouldn't wear black, the reason given was that 
black is the opposite of light and we are supposed to be radiating light to the 
world. Crazy shit right? But I adopted the meme unconsciously and stopped 
wearing all my black T-shirts. You know you've been got to by a repressive 
organisation when someone else turns up wearing black and you feel shock at 
seeing it.
Sounds weird and innocuous but there are plenty of examples of control that you 
will pick up if you get involved in such a static society. What length to have 
your hair (men only) what age you can grow a beard, what time to go to bed. All 
these things are part of a social system that exists to stay the same. And we 
haven't even got to the cosmological beliefs! 
Being static is only a problem because people aren't static and naturally have 
ideas. This was the job of the governors of the age of enlightenment - keep 
everyone on message and use every opportunity to have the memes adopted by 
others or reinforce them in anyone who wavers. If someone challenges the 
orthodoxy too much then they have to go. I did and it was made clear that I 
should probably go somewhere else. 

What's always boggled my mind is how many of the people who have *BEEN* "kept 
in line" by TM teachers and "Governors of the Age of Enlightenment" (I 
mean...just *think* about that term, and that people are *so* brainwashed that 
they take it for granted and never question it) react. Rather than resenting 
having been told what they can and cannot do and what they can and cannot think 
for years by these dweebs, *they aspire to be just like them*. Thus you find 
people like Jim Flanegin, who never had what it took to become a TM teacher, 
wanting to become just like them and impose his will on others and force them 
to live the way *he* wants them to. In a very real sense, this strikes me as 
the same kind of "inherited behavior" we see in victims of child abuse. Instead 
of growing up to hate such abuse, they tend to grow up to become abusers 
themselves. 
I find the very existence of "The_Leak" quite fascinating. It started because 
one person on FFL (Jim Flanegin) had a grudge against another person on FFL 
(moi) because he wouldn't buy into his (ludicrous) claims of being enlightened. 
"Mr. Enlightened" got angrier and angrier and angrier until one day I used a 
throwaway phrase to make a point, and Jimbo went fuckin' crazy over it and 
started slinging libel accusing me of being a pedophile, and encouraging people 
to sic the authorities on me in the real world. He *also* did the same thing 
that Doug/Buck is *still* doing, and started appealing to Rick Archer to have 
me "thrown off" of FFL, and created whole threads with this in the Subject 
line, thus smearing my name in search engines. Rick of course ignored him like 
the idiotic control freak he was acting like. Me, because what he was doing was 
ILLEGAL and the very definition of libel, I sicced the Dutch cops on his ass. 
"Mr. Enlightened" reacted by not only NOT apologizing for the libel, but by 
running away and forming his own group, where he has now developed a history of 
banning anyone who dares to say something he doesn't like. 

It's not just the COWARDICE of all of this that gets me, but the "abused trying 
to become the abuser" phenomenon that makes me roll my eyes. After all these 
years of being indoctrinated by the TM movement, it's understandable that 
someone with as weak an intellect as Jimbo's can no longer even *conceive* of 
thinking any way other than he's been told to think. What is less 
understandable is that he wants to be able to do to other people what was done 
to him. I guess he finally managed it, by creating a forum on which *HE* has 
the final word on what anyone can say and what they can't. I hope he's finally 
happy. That would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Exactly what Salyavin said. 

 

 As far as I can tell, the charge of "obsession" falls completely on the 
shoulders of those who are so attached to their beliefs and so petty as to get 
uptight when they encounter ideas contrary to their own. Bitching about others 
having such ideas is weird, and IMO the sign of a weak mind. Becoming *so* 
uptight about it that they feel the need to try to *silence* the contrary ideas 
-- and then, when that doesn't work, run away and form a forum where no one is 
*allowed* to express contrary ideas -- is the sign of religious fanaticism. 

 

 That's the thing about memes. They can be either productive or destructive, 
all they need is a willing mind to enact them and they become part of a 
society. The TMO - like all religious groups - is what you might call a static 
society, the purpose of the people who have adopted it's way of looking at 
things is to keep things the same. This is because they believe in the core 
teaching and it's the teaching that tells us it is complete and cannot be 
improved upon, but it goes deeper. 
 

 I remember being told that I shouldn't wear black, the reason given was that 
black is the opposite of light and we are supposed to be radiating light to the 
world. Crazy shit right? But I adopted the meme unconsciously and stopped 
wearing all my black T-shirts. You know you've been got to by a repressive 
organisation when someone else turns up wearing black and you feel shock at 
seeing it.
 

 Sounds weird and innocuous but there are plenty of examples of control that 
you will pick up if you get involved in such a static society. What length to 
have your hair (men only) what age you can grow a beard, what time to go to 
bed. All these things are part of a social system that exists to stay the same. 
And we haven't even got to the cosmological beliefs! 
 

 Being static is only a problem because people aren't static and naturally have 
ideas. This was the job of the governors of the age of enlightenment - keep 
everyone on message and use every opportunity to have the memes adopted by 
others or reinforce them in anyone who wavers. If someone challenges the 
orthodoxy too much then they have to go. I did and it was made clear that I 
should probably go somewhere else. This an improvement over one of the world's 
other great static society's - Islam - where they'd chop off my head for 
doubting the prophet but it's still worrying that a group who's purpose is 
evolution doesn't like people doing things differently, or worse still even 
talking about it.
 

 This is Buck's quandary, he wants the beliefs he has adopted to stay true in a 
world where nothing does. And he wants a forum that was designed to talk about 
his organisation to not talk about it - except in ways that support the 
foundational memes. But he admits himself that since the perpetrator of the 
religion has died things have started to shift. For instance, the recognition 
that people have psychiatric issues that TM and it's teachings can't help. Sure 
they are still doing "vedic" crap to try and deal with it but it should be a 
sign to him that things change because people have ideas. Marshy would have 
stamped on them and denied there could ever be a problem with TM. 
 

 Things evolve, Buck will maybe one day realise this process of challenging and 
coming up with new ideas to explain things is how you, me and every other 
curious sceptic got to the position we are in now. But to do that you have to 
challenge the static memes of religious fundamentalism that stop you evolving. 
Without realising it he's already made the first step.
 

 

 

 As Curtis and I (and Sal) have said many, many times -- and as the religious 
fanatics refuse to believe -- we come here for FUN. It's an "alma mater" kinda 
place, as Sal suggested. Here we can talk about things we *used to* take 
seriously but don't any more, and we can explore those ideas in more depth now 
that we're not part of a cult that's trying to keep us *from* exploring them 
more deeply. 

 

 If there is an "obsession" here, I suggest it's on the part of those who 
literally HATE the people who express ideas contrary to the TM/MMY dogma, but 
who keep reading every word they write, just so they can get off on the 
righteous indignation they've become addicted to. I have no more respect for 
them than I do for the idiots who feel that killing cartoonists is their 
divinely-given right. 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

   
 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 


 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  


 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-29 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Exactly what Salyavin said. 

As far as I can tell, the charge of "obsession" falls completely on the 
shoulders of those who are so attached to their beliefs and so petty as to get 
uptight when they encounter ideas contrary to their own. Bitching about others 
having such ideas is weird, and IMO the sign of a weak mind. Becoming *so* 
uptight about it that they feel the need to try to *silence* the contrary ideas 
-- and then, when that doesn't work, run away and form a forum where no one is 
*allowed* to express contrary ideas -- is the sign of religious fanaticism. 

As Curtis and I (and Sal) have said many, many times -- and as the religious 
fanatics refuse to believe -- we come here for FUN. It's an "alma mater" kinda 
place, as Sal suggested. Here we can talk about things we *used to* take 
seriously but don't any more, and we can explore those ideas in more depth now 
that we're not part of a cult that's trying to keep us *from* exploring them 
more deeply. 

If there is an "obsession" here, I suggest it's on the part of those who 
literally HATE the people who express ideas contrary to the TM/MMY dogma, but 
who keep reading every word they write, just so they can get off on the 
righteous indignation they've become addicted to. I have no more respect for 
them than I do for the idiots who feel that killing cartoonists is their 
divinely-given right. 
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

    I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed 
it up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my 
favorite was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?



  

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2015-01-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Definitely not joking. My friend heard about it from some people in her book 
club, and she told me about it the day before the event. It seems that this guy 
is famous for doing this here:
http://www.abc.nl/frontpage/events/index.php?show=details&place=abc&event=1436
 Because we were first in line and there were only about seven people signed up 
to pitch their books to him when he arrived, we got five minutes or more 
instead of the advertised one minute. To be honest, the whole reason I dashed 
off a story idea the night before and went was because it's not every day you 
get to pitch your book to the Big Lebowski. :-)
And he *did* seem to like my basic idea, although he warned me that I'd have to 
be a helluva writer to pull of the kind of "hybrid" book I have in mind. I 
pitched it as "Raymond Chandler meets Christopher Moore in a Blade Runner 
universe," and that's what I had in mind -- the basic format of a Chandler 
detective novel, but set in a futuristic, Blade Runner-like Amsterdam, and with 
Chris Moore-like humor and weirdness. 

The miracles being attributed to Lakshimi, after all, really *are* happening. 
As followers of FFL and our ongoing discussions know, that doesn't really 
require anything mystical or magical -- if someone prays to the man-made, 
four-armed hooker they believe is the goddess Lakshmi incarnate to cure their 
cancer or help their business thrive, the Placebo Effect would supply all the 
magic needed to make it happen. 

To be kept in mind, of course, is that Oscar -- as nice as he was to not only 
listen to my pitch but offer advice -- did *not* actually offer to publish it. 
Although it didn't really come up, I think he sensed that this was an idea that 
I thought up the night before, and so he asked to see some pages. 

That's the real "acid test," both from his side and from mine. I have ideas 
like this all the time, but most of them don't "stick," and I lose interest in 
them before I actually write the story or book. This could be another one. But 
I have a few "days off" from my regular writing gig coming up, so maybe I'll 
give this one a shot. It would be hard work -- having to spend 5€ each 
direction to go into Amsterdam, and then having to sit in cafes in the Red 
Light District getting drunk or stoned or both and writing up my impressions of 
what it'll look like in 18 years, but this is the sort of back-breaking work 
that a writer has to deal with.  :-)
I *do* really like the Lakshmi character -- in my mind she's a lot like Moreena 
Baccarin's character of Inara in "Firefly," only with four arms -- and I like 
the idea of trying to figure out how one of my favorite weird places in the 
world (Amsterdam's Red Light District) will get even weirder in the future. 
Non-human sexbots are a given...the Japanese are already working on robotic 
versions of them. My version would be more lab-developed replicants a la Blade 
Runner...grown in a lab from human eggs and sperm, but then manipulated 
genetically to produce certain characteristics. By the time my story takes 
place, these replicants have not only proved that they can achieve sentience, 
they've been "liberated" and theoretically been granted the same rights as 
natural-born humans. So the obvious next step is for one of them to become a 
god. Goddess, actually.  :-)
Here's the two-armed version:


  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


I can't tell if you are joking or not but I want to read the book if you ever 
publish it - will it come out in Dutch first? And which publisher does this? I 
am impressed with their willingness to make themselves accessible. 
 

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

    From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What kinder good time?

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, Januar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

 

 CBS Action, yes indeed. They also show SNG but I don't have the time to spend 
every night watching Star Trek, much as I'd want to.
 

 I will record an episode of Texas Ranger just to see for myself the landscape 
that shaped the soul of the great man WillyTex. Maybe we'll even see him in the 
background radiating his typically vast spiritual warmth?
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, but who started the forest fire?? "Capture the fort to destroy the host" 
and all that we heard about for years 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 wonder who set that fire?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 












 


 











 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, but who started the forest fire?? "Capture the fort to destroy the host" 
and all that we heard about for year. Looks very suspicious to me 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 wonder who set that fire?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!

 


 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 












 


 











 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No one. Honestly ! There was a forest fire that started miles away and burned 
it's way to the Capitol. A lot of homes and business were destroyed. There had 
been a drought for a couple of years prior and everything was like a tender 
box. The Capitol went up because vegatation was growing so close. The Peace 
Palaces weren't harmed, they just wreak from mold due to poor, shoddy, cheap 
construction done by a Mexican construction company that later went to Kansas 
to build more cheap buildings for the TMO.
  From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    wonder who set that fire?

 

 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply 
as could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!
 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches  

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wonder who set that fire?

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply 
as could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!
 

 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Every structure I've personally seen built by the TMO was done as cheaply as 
could be imagined and always leaked from the roofs and frequently , the 
plumbing. The Capitols of the age of Enlightenment and Peace Palaces in 
Navasota TX. had to be abandoned due to mold and the fear of law suites. The 
Peace Palaces were never even finished before mold took over. Fortunately for 
them (TMO) the Capitol burned down and they were able to collect insurance, 
otherwise , they were worthless. Bet their insurors didn't know that!
  From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah, would that be CBS Action? In looking I see they also carry Walker: Texas 
Ranger where you can see how folks carry on in Willy Tex's neck of the woods

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since I 
was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
|  |
| View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
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|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
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  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
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  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase prope

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

 

 It's the original series, I found it on CBS. I haven't seen any of them since 
I was a kid. It's great stuff. Tonight's was about a penal colony where the 
governor has gone mad and is brainwashing everyone to be just like him. Kirk 
gets the treatment but saved the day and got off with the foxy chick. No 
surprises there.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-wor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I can't tell if you are joking or not but I want to read the book if you ever 
publish it - will it come out in Dutch first? And which publisher does this? I 
am impressed with their willingness to make themselves accessible. 

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What kinder good time?

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in the 
mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the propert

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
God Damn! That is good - come on write it please!

  From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What kinder good time?

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
OK, I can't resist. I'll probably never get around to writing it because I've 
got a few better ideas that interest me more, but since the idea is already all 
copyrighted and all, and because nobody else could probably write it the way I 
would even if they stole the idea, and because some here might get a kick out 
of the idea, here it is. 

Brahmaloka Blues

Sam is a private detective, barely eking out a living inthe Red Light District 
of Amsterdam in the year 2032. He's not a very gooddetective, so his clients 
tend to be artificially-created robosex workers whofeel that they're being 
discriminated against, in flagrant disregard of the2027 Replicant Protection 
Act. It's 
basicfollow-the-client-and-take-point-and-shoot-video-of-scumbags-trying-to-hurt-them-or-extort-money-from-themwork,
 and it's boring, but it pays the bills. 
And then one day into Sam's office walks Lakshmi, thecurrent queen of the Red 
Light District. She's a veritable celebrity -- sixfeet tall, wearing a sari 
like her Hindu goddess namesake, with dark hairflowing to her waist, sumptuous 
breasts, and four working arms and hands.That's what the Replicant designers 
thought would appeal to Hindu touristslooking for a little robosex adventure, 
and boy! were they right. Guys justcouldn't *wait* to get some of that action, 
and she quickly developed a lot ofloyal female customers as well, so now she's 
the hottest ticket in town. 
But as Lakshmiexplains why she's here to see Sam, it becomes obvious that she's 
not popularwith everybody. She's been getting death threats lately, and that's 
where itgets weird. They're from Hindu supremacists. And it's not that they're 
offendedbecause she's been designed to look like one of their goddesses and 
they thinkthat's heresy. It's that some of Lakshmi's customers are so taken 
with her thatinstead of paying to have sex with her they've starting paying so 
that they canfall at her feet and worship her and pray to her to grant them 
miracles. Whatthe Hindu supremacists are pissed about is that the miracles have 
actually beenhappening.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in the 
mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country News

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I feel the same as Sal, except that I don't do TM anymore. Sal, you summed it 
up very well. BTW which Star Trek you watching? Original? Nex Gen - my favorite 
was always Deep Space 9, and I make no apologies for it! 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - watching 
Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of fun. So 
lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
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| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
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  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
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|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
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  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808


Excellent premise. I look forward to seeing it in the next Sci-Fi Masterworks 
catalogue.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 
 From: salyavin808 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What kinder good time?
 

 Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and 
find a publisher.
 

 I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

 

 The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
 

 OK, I can't resist. I'll probably never get around to writing it because I've 
got a few better ideas that interest me more, but since the idea is already all 
copyrighted and all, and because nobody else could probably write it the way I 
would even if they stole the idea, and because some here might get a kick out 
of the idea, here it is. 

 
 
 

 Brahmaloka Blues

 

 Sam is a private detective, barely eking out a living in the Red Light 
District of Amsterdam in the year 2032. He's not a very good detective, so his 
clients tend to be artificially-created robosex workers who feel that they're 
being discriminated against, in flagrant disregard of the 2027 Replicant 
Protection Act. It's basic 
follow-the-client-and-take-point-and-shoot-video-of-scumbags-trying-to-hurt-them-or-extort-money-from-them
 work, and it's boring, but it pays the bills. 
 

 And then one day into Sam's office walks Lakshmi, the current queen of the Red 
Light District. She's a veritable celebrity -- six feet tall, wearing a sari 
like her Hindu goddess namesake, with dark hair flowing to her waist, sumptuous 
breasts, and four working arms and hands. That's what the Replicant designers 
thought would appeal to Hindu tourists looking for a little robosex adventure, 
and boy! were they right. Guys just couldn't *wait* to get some of that action, 
and she quickly developed a lot of loyal female customers as well, so now she's 
the hottest ticket in town. 

 
 But as Lakshmi explains why she's here to see Sam, it becomes obvious that 
she's not popular with everybody. She's been getting death threats lately, and 
that's where it gets weird. They're from Hindu supremacists. And it's not that 
they're offended because she's been designed to look like one of their 
goddesses and they think that's heresy. It's that some of Lakshmi's customers 
are so taken with her that instead of paying to have sex with her they've 
starting paying so that they can fall at her feet and worship her and pray to 
her to grant them miracles. What the Hindu supremacists are pissed about is 
that the miracles have actually been happening.

 


 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

 

 Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
 

 Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in 
the mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.co

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What kinder good time?

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
OK, I can't resist. I'll probably never get around to writing it because I've 
got a few better ideas that interest me more, but since the idea is already all 
copyrighted and all, and because nobody else could probably write it the way I 
would even if they stole the idea, and because some here might get a kick out 
of the idea, here it is. 

Brahmaloka Blues

Sam is a private detective, barely eking out a living inthe Red Light District 
of Amsterdam in the year 2032. He's not a very gooddetective, so his clients 
tend to be artificially-created robosex workers whofeel that they're being 
discriminated against, in flagrant disregard of the2027 Replicant Protection 
Act. It's 
basicfollow-the-client-and-take-point-and-shoot-video-of-scumbags-trying-to-hurt-them-or-extort-money-from-themwork,
 and it's boring, but it pays the bills. 
And then one day into Sam's office walks Lakshmi, thecurrent queen of the Red 
Light District. She's a veritable celebrity -- sixfeet tall, wearing a sari 
like her Hindu goddess namesake, with dark hairflowing to her waist, sumptuous 
breasts, and four working arms and hands.That's what the Replicant designers 
thought would appeal to Hindu touristslooking for a little robosex adventure, 
and boy! were they right. Guys justcouldn't *wait* to get some of that action, 
and she quickly developed a lot ofloyal female customers as well, so now she's 
the hottest ticket in town. 
But as Lakshmiexplains why she's here to see Sam, it becomes obvious that she's 
not popularwith everybody. She's been getting death threats lately, and that's 
where itgets weird. They're from Hindu supremacists. And it's not that they're 
offendedbecause she's been designed to look like one of their goddesses and 
they thinkthat's heresy. It's that some of Lakshmi's customers are so taken 
with her thatinstead of paying to have sex with her they've starting paying so 
that they canfall at her feet and worship her and pray to her to grant them 
miracles. Whatthe Hindu supremacists are pissed about is that the miracles have 
actually beenhappening.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in the 
mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What kinder good time?

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
I just have to comment on this because the other day I went with a friend into 
Amsterdam to have a five-minute sitdown with a publisher who was there allowing 
people to pitch their book ideas to him. He's done this before, and he's 
actually ended up "discovering" a few writers and publishing them. My friend 
wanted to go because she's been seriously working on a book idea for a while 
and wanted to pitch it to him. I tagged along because it seemed like such a 
weird thing to do, but the problem was that I didn't have a book idea to pitch 
him. So I dashed one out the night before and took it with me and did my 
5-minute "elevator pitch" to him, just for the fun of it. 

The problem was that he actually liked it and wanted to see pages. Now I have 
to write them. Bummer.  :-)
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in the 
mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What kinder good time?
 

Heh heh. Wait until my book comes out. Actually, wait until I write it and find 
a publisher.
 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

 

 Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
 

 Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in 
the mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 

 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 













 













 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

 For the millionth time. I still do TM but think the supporting philosophy is 
crap and the movement makes a lot of money out of some obviously dubious 
"technologies" even though they like to bleat about science at any other time. 
Go figure.
 

 Regarding this "obsession" with the TMO, what I have is an interest in what my 
old spiritual almer mater is up to because it was a wild time and I met some 
crazy people (in both good and bad ways) and got to see the inside of a cult 
and saw how it works and how it affects affects people. I still like TM as it 
goes and have fond memories of my time living there, but you've got to 
transcend the crap you are in to evolve. It's the movement types who aren't 
curious and carry on like everything is great that worry me.
 

 Finally, FFL is something to do at work and during the adverts on TV - 
watching Star Trek at the moment - it's not an obsession either. It's a bit of 
fun. So lighten up. BTW what are you doing here?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
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 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
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buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
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 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good to know you have you fingers on the brain pulses of everyone in fairfield 
- or are you just referring to people like yourself who defend the Movement, 
Marshy and especially the university even though you don't actually do the much 
vaunted techniques themselves anymore? Looks like if they are good enough to 
defend, they would be good enough to practice. Hard to let go of those 
addictions ain't it, Feste?

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 2:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest 
in everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much 
interest in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like 
you, although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel 
smug and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You 
are, after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, 
right?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
|  |
| View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
might get up that way one of these days - only a little over 3 hour drive from 
me. I haven't been up there since the days of the siddhi prep courses in 
Blowing Rock and Boone - long time ago! Of course that was before the Kaplans 
built Heavenly Mountain for Marshy.

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    
Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? You're 
local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
|  |
| View on www.facebook.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What kinder good time?

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in the 
mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread feste37
It's amazing how all you guys who hate TM so much take such a keen interest in 
everything the TM movement does. No one I know in Fairfield takes much interest 
in it all. Maybe the folks on campus do, which makes them rather like you, 
although for different reasons. But I guess you just have a need to feel smug 
and superior, and the TM movement just serves as a vehicle for that. You are, 
after all, so much better and wiser and more knowledgeable than they are, right?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 

 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 Nice place, nice photo's. I wonder if they'll have a room for ex-FFLers? 
You're local MJ, go take a look and report back.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers
 

 

TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement  
  
 https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
  
  
  
  
  
 TM Retirement https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement Are you interested in a 
retirement community centered around the Transcendental Meditation and...


 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/TMretirement
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 

 
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 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 













 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

 

 Good bit of PR I thought, us meditator's fulfilling the vision of the medicine 
man. I wanted to go anyway, back then I thought purusha was my destiny. That 
didn't last long I'm happy to say with hindsight, but I was annoyed to be one 
of the only ones left behind at the time.
 

 Still, I made the most of it with a year long rounding course by the sea in 
the mediterranean where a good time was had by all. Oh yes.
 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
 
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 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 













 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh dear God - apparently it may be back or some part of it is back in TM'ers 
hands. A retirement community for aging TM'ers - from the tone of the FB page 
it looks to be a retirement community of TM True Believers

TM Retirement
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| TM RetirementAre you interested in a retirement community centered around the 
Transcendental Meditation and... |
|  |
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|   |

  
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good Gravy! I have never heard that one. 

  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    
Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet. |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


  From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread salyavin808

 Cool. I'd love to go and have a look round and take some photos.
 

 Do you remember the story the TMO used to tell about there being an old Injun 
legend about white men in white clothes flying round the top of their "holy" 
mountain? LOL. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm  
  
 http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
  
  
  
  
  
 High Country News 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm What’s Going On 
at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell 
No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been sold—at least, not yet.


 
 View on highcountrypress.com 
http://highcountrypress.com/weekly/2006/03-02-06/n_heavenly.htm
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

 

  
  
 http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
  
  
  
  
  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html • Three large 
buildings totaling 218,000 square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular 
long-range views The main building includes 112 suites (many with


 
 View on motherdivine.org 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 Preview by Yahoo
 
  

  
 Heavenly Mountain Property Auction 
http://motherdivine.org/email/updates/2012_10_hm_auction.html
 

 

 This is the outfit that owns it now:
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 
 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 

 
http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html
 From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches




 


 











Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
High Country News
|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| High Country NewsWhat’s Going On at Heavenly Mountain? Is It Sold? Who Lives 
There Now? Story by Sally Treadwell No, Heavenly Mountain Resort has NOT been 
sold—at least, not yet.  |
|  |
| View on highcountrypress.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |



|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| Heavenly Mountain Property Auction• Three large buildings totaling 218,000 
square feet   • Peaceful area with spectacular long-range views The main 
building includes 112 suites (many with  |
|  |
| View on motherdivine.org | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
|   |

  Heavenly Mountain Property Auction

This is the outfit that owns it 
now:http://www.hcpress.com/news/his-holiness-sri-sri-ravi-shankar-to-inaugurate-world-class-international-center-for-peace-and-well-being.html


 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in 
Boone, NC and then again sell?
   
    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Mother Divine repurchase property in Boone, NC and then again sell?

2015-01-28 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi, is this a topic that has already been discussed on this forum? Some years 
ago I heard that Mother Divine repurchased their original campus in Boone, 
North Carolina, some later the news was that they had a gain sold it. This 
seems a really strange move. Does anybody know the reason?
 

 I heard rumours from sources in North Carolina of long negotiations to buy the 
property from the Kaplans. When this was finally accomplished, estimates for 
repairs had to be made as the property lay dormant for quite a while. Mother 
Divine of course wants everything just so. But when some of the walls were 
opened up, there was apparently a lot of damage, by mould and water. The cost 
of fixing this, so I heard, was prohibitive. The damage was not discovered 
during the inspections leading up to purchase. I wonder where Jyotish was when 
this deal was made (not that that would have any predictive effect on the 
outcome)? They sold it to one of the other spiritual groups in the area, I 
think. TMO financial shenanigans can come back to haunt, as TMO promises not 
kept were the reason the property had to be abandoned in the first place. There 
is probably some information on this in the FFL archives, if you can find it 
now that the neo interface here makes it difficult to do precise searches