[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread Jason
 
   
  From the Declaration of Independence in 1776 to World War 2 in 1945, 
America was trying to promote Democracy and Republicanism all over the world.  
At that time, the two major enemies of US was Britain and Spain.!!
   
  From 1945 when the world lapsed into an Ideological Cold War, The US 
position changed upside down and Promoting right-wing Dictatorships all over 
the world was considered the best strategy to combat Communism.  Dictatorships 
are easier to control and democracies have complications.
   
   In September 11th 2001, the US position again changed upside down and 
Promoting Democracies all over the world was considered the best strategy by 
the Pentagon and the CIA.
   
   In other words, You guys are returning back to Pre-1945 position.
   
   In other words, You are back to square one.!!
  

do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:05 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

  
The Pentagon Strangles Our Economy: Why the U.S. Has Gone Broke

By Chalmers Johnson, Le Monde diplomatique
Alternet, April 27, 2008
http://www.alternet .org/story/ 83555/

The military adventurers in the Bush administration have much in
common with the corporate leaders of the defunct energy company Enron.
Both groups thought that they were the smartest guys in the room --
the title of Alex Gibney's prize-winning film on what went wrong at Enron.

The neoconservatives in the White House and the Pentagon outsmarted
themselves. They failed even to address the problem of how to finance
their schemes of imperialist wars and global domination.

As a result, going into 2008, the United States finds itself in the
anomalous position of being unable to pay for its own elevated living
standards or its wasteful, overly large military establishment.

Its government no longer even attempts to reduce the ruinous expenses
of maintaining huge standing armies, replacing the equipment that
seven years of wars have destroyed or worn out, or preparing for a war
in outer space against unknown adversaries. 

Instead, the Bush administration puts off these costs for future
generations to pay or repudiate. This fiscal irresponsibility has been
disguised through many manipulative financial schemes (causing poorer
countries to lend us unprecedented sums of money), but the time of
reckoning is fast approaching.

There are three broad aspects to the U.S. debt crisis. First, in the
current fiscal year (2008) we are spending insane amounts of money on
defense projects that bear no relation to the national security of
the U.S. We are also keeping the income tax burdens on the richest
segment of the population at strikingly low levels.

Second, we continue to believe that we can compensate for the
accelerating erosion of our base and our loss of jobs to foreign
countries through massive military expenditures -- military
Keynesianism ... By that, I mean the mistaken belief that public
policies focused on frequent wars, huge expenditures on weapons and
munitions, and large standing armies can indefinitely sustain a
wealthy capitalist economy. The opposite is actually true.

Third, in our devotion to militarism (despite our limited resources),
we are failing to invest in our social infrastructure and other
requirements for the long-term health of the U.S. These are what
economists call opportunity costs, things not done because we spent
our money on something else.

Our public education system has deteriorated alarmingly. We have
failed to provide health care to all our citizens and neglected our
responsibilities as the world's number one polluter. Most important,
we have lost our competitiveness as a manufacturer for civilian needs,
an infinitely more efficient use of scarce resources than arms
manufacturing.

Fiscal disaster

It is virtually impossible to overstate the profligacy of what our
government spends on the military. The Department of Defense's planned
expenditures for the fiscal year 2008 are larger than all other
nations' military budgets combined.

The supplementary budget to pay for the current wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan, not part of the official defense budget, is itself larger
than the combined military budgets of Russia and China.

Defense-related spending for fiscal 2008 will exceed $1 trillion for
the first time in history.

The U.S. has become the largest single seller of arms and munitions to
other nations on Earth. Leaving out President Bush's two on-going
wars, defense spending has doubled since the mid-1990s. The defense
budget for fiscal 2008 is the largest since the second world war...

Read complete article at link: http://www.alternet .org/story/ 83555/
   
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread Angela Mailander
Is it really democracy, or is it something more like
corporate capitalism? 



--- Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   From the Declaration of Independence in 1776
 to World War 2 in 1945, America was trying to
 promote Democracy and Republicanism all over the
 world.  At that time, the two major enemies of US
 was Britain and Spain.!!

   From 1945 when the world lapsed into an
 Ideological Cold War, The US position changed upside
 down and Promoting right-wing Dictatorships all over
 the world was considered the best strategy to combat
 Communism.  Dictatorships are easier to control and
 democracies have complications.

In September 11th 2001, the US position again
 changed upside down and Promoting Democracies all
 over the world was considered the best strategy by
 the Pentagon and the CIA.

In other words, You guys are returning back
 to Pre-1945 position.

In other words, You are back to square one.!!
   
 
 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:05 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why the [Invincible] U.S.
 Has Gone Broke
 
   
 The Pentagon Strangles Our Economy: Why the U.S. Has
 Gone Broke
 
 By Chalmers Johnson, Le Monde diplomatique
 Alternet, April 27, 2008
 http://www.alternet .org/story/ 83555/
 
 The military adventurers in the Bush administration
 have much in
 common with the corporate leaders of the defunct
 energy company Enron.
 Both groups thought that they were the smartest
 guys in the room --
 the title of Alex Gibney's prize-winning film on
 what went wrong at Enron.
 
 The neoconservatives in the White House and the
 Pentagon outsmarted
 themselves. They failed even to address the problem
 of how to finance
 their schemes of imperialist wars and global
 domination.
 
 As a result, going into 2008, the United States
 finds itself in the
 anomalous position of being unable to pay for its
 own elevated living
 standards or its wasteful, overly large military
 establishment.
 
 Its government no longer even attempts to reduce the
 ruinous expenses
 of maintaining huge standing armies, replacing the
 equipment that
 seven years of wars have destroyed or worn out, or
 preparing for a war
 in outer space against unknown adversaries. 
 
 Instead, the Bush administration puts off these
 costs for future
 generations to pay or repudiate. This fiscal
 irresponsibility has been
 disguised through many manipulative financial
 schemes (causing poorer
 countries to lend us unprecedented sums of money),
 but the time of
 reckoning is fast approaching.
 
 There are three broad aspects to the U.S. debt
 crisis. First, in the
 current fiscal year (2008) we are spending insane
 amounts of money on
 defense projects that bear no relation to the
 national security of
 the U.S. We are also keeping the income tax burdens
 on the richest
 segment of the population at strikingly low levels.
 
 Second, we continue to believe that we can
 compensate for the
 accelerating erosion of our base and our loss of
 jobs to foreign
 countries through massive military expenditures --
 military
 Keynesianism ... By that, I mean the mistaken
 belief that public
 policies focused on frequent wars, huge expenditures
 on weapons and
 munitions, and large standing armies can
 indefinitely sustain a
 wealthy capitalist economy. The opposite is actually
 true.
 
 Third, in our devotion to militarism (despite our
 limited resources),
 we are failing to invest in our social
 infrastructure and other
 requirements for the long-term health of the U.S.
 These are what
 economists call opportunity costs, things not done
 because we spent
 our money on something else.
 
 Our public education system has deteriorated
 alarmingly. We have
 failed to provide health care to all our citizens
 and neglected our
 responsibilities as the world's number one polluter.
 Most important,
 we have lost our competitiveness as a manufacturer
 for civilian needs,
 an infinitely more efficient use of scarce resources
 than arms
 manufacturing.
 
 Fiscal disaster
 
 It is virtually impossible to overstate the
 profligacy of what our
 government spends on the military. The Department of
 Defense's planned
 expenditures for the fiscal year 2008 are larger
 than all other
 nations' military budgets combined.
 
 The supplementary budget to pay for the current wars
 in Iraq and
 Afghanistan, not part of the official defense
 budget, is itself larger
 than the combined military budgets of Russia and
 China.
 
 Defense-related spending for fiscal 2008 will exceed
 $1 trillion for
 the first time in history.
 
 The U.S. has become the largest single seller of
 arms and munitions to
 other nations on Earth. Leaving out President Bush's
 two on-going
 wars, defense spending has doubled since the
 mid-1990s. The defense
 budget for fiscal 2008 is the largest since the
 second world war...
 
 Read complete article at link: http://www.alternet
 .org/story/ 83555/


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread Jason
 
   
Corporate Capitalism withi it's feature of  Limited Liability is one 
of the major causes of Industrial and economic development.  Or else no trader 
or Business would take risks with unlimited liability.  Pooling of Capital 
which no single individual can do it on his own was made possible.
   
The Negative side is it led to irresponsible decison making and Greed.  
Corporate irresponsiblity is one of the major problems which we face today.
   
The only solution is to introduce Partially extended Limited 
Liability in which about 5% percent of the total Capital pooled by the company 
be held in a permanently frozen deposit with the Federal Bank.  Only when the 
company is Liqudated the Federal bank should release the funds to help the 
liquidation process.

Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:53:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

   
  Is it really democracy, or is it something more like
corporate capitalism? 

--- Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From the Declaration of Independence in 1776
 to World War 2 in 1945, America was trying to
 promote Democracy and Republicanism all over the
 world. At that time, the two major enemies of US
 was Britain and Spain.!!
 
 From 1945 when the world lapsed into an
 Ideological Cold War, The US position changed upside
 down and Promoting right-wing Dictatorships all over
 the world was considered the best strategy to combat
 Communism. Dictatorships are easier to control and
 democracies have complications.
 
 In September 11th 2001, the US position again
 changed upside down and Promoting Democracies all
 over the world was considered the best strategy by
 the Pentagon and the CIA.
 
 In other words, You guys are returning back
 to Pre-1945 position.
 
 In other words, You are back to square one.!!
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   From the Declaration of Independence in 1776 to World War 2 in
1945, America was trying to promote Democracy and Republicanism all
over the world.  At that time, the two major enemies of US was Britain
and Spain.!!

   From 1945 when the world lapsed into an Ideological Cold War,
The US position changed upside down and Promoting right-wing
Dictatorships all over the world was considered the best strategy to
combat Communism.  Dictatorships are easier to control and democracies
have complications.

In September 11th 2001, the US position again changed upside
down and Promoting Democracies all over the world was considered the
best strategy by the Pentagon and the CIA.

In other words, You guys are returning back to Pre-1945 position.

In other words, You are back to square one.!!



An nobody listened to:


We must face the fact that the United States is neither omnipotent or
omniscient — that we are only 6 percent of the world's population;
that we cannot impose our will upon the other 94 percent of mankind;
that we cannot right every wrong or reverse each adversity; and
therefore there cannot be an American solution to every world problem.  

~~  President John F Kennedy - from his speech delivered at the
University of Washington in Seattle, November 16th, 1961
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=8448




 do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:05 -
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke
 
   
 The Pentagon Strangles Our Economy: Why the U.S. Has Gone Broke
 
 By Chalmers Johnson, Le Monde diplomatique
 Alternet, April 27, 2008
 http://www.alternet .org/story/ 83555/







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread Angela Mailander
Well, whatever you call it, it seems irresponsible
and, in all likelihood counterproductive, to impose it
at the point of a gun. Moreover, I'm not convinced
that the agenda is economic development rather than
depopulation.  And then, even if it's economic
development, whose development are we talking about in
the case of, say, Iraq--Iraqi development or American
development?  


--- Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

 Corporate Capitalism withi it's feature of 
 Limited Liability is one of the major causes of
 Industrial and economic development.  Or else no
 trader or Business would take risks with unlimited
 liability.  Pooling of Capital which no single
 individual can do it on his own was made possible.

 The Negative side is it led to irresponsible
 decison making and Greed.  Corporate irresponsiblity
 is one of the major problems which we face today.

 The only solution is to introduce Partially
 extended Limited Liability in which about 5%
 percent of the total Capital pooled by the company
 be held in a permanently frozen deposit with the
 Federal Bank.  Only when the company is Liqudated
 the Federal bank should release the funds to help
 the liquidation process.
 
 Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:53:24 +0100 (BST)
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the
 [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke
 

   Is it really democracy, or is it something more
 like
 corporate capitalism? 
 
 --- Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From the Declaration of Independence in 1776
  to World War 2 in 1945, America was trying to
  promote Democracy and Republicanism all over the
  world. At that time, the two major enemies of US
  was Britain and Spain.!!
  
  From 1945 when the world lapsed into an
  Ideological Cold War, The US position changed
 upside
  down and Promoting right-wing Dictatorships all
 over
  the world was considered the best strategy to
 combat
  Communism. Dictatorships are easier to control and
  democracies have complications.
  
  In September 11th 2001, the US position again
  changed upside down and Promoting Democracies all
  over the world was considered the best strategy by
  the Pentagon and the CIA.
  
  In other words, You guys are returning back
  to Pre-1945 position.
  
  In other words, You are back to square one.!!


 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

   From the Declaration of Independence in 1776 to World War 2 in 1945, 
 America was 
trying to promote Democracy and Republicanism all over the world.  At that 
time, the two 
major enemies of US was Britain and Spain.!!

   From 1945 when the world lapsed into an Ideological Cold War, The US 
 position 
changed upside down and Promoting right-wing Dictatorships all over the world 
was 
considered the best strategy to combat Communism.  Dictatorships are easier to 
control 
and democracies have complications.

In September 11th 2001, the US position again changed upside down and 
 Promoting 
Democracies all over the world was considered the best strategy by the Pentagon 
and the 
CIA.

In other words, You guys are returning back to Pre-1945 position.

In other words, You are back to square one.!!
   


Most (or at least many) people believe that the _de facto_ foreign policy  of 
the US 
government has been to act to promote the continuation of the US citizen's 
lifestyle, 
rather than to promote democracy or any other idealist goal.

I think that a fair claim can be made that THIS goal has been subverted to 
promote the 
interests of specific individuals and groups over the national interests of the 
American 
public in general, but that you're fooling yourself if  you think our national 
goals have 
been lofty for a very long time.


Lawson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the [Invincible] U.S. Has Gone Broke

2008-04-28 Thread Angela Mailander
I agree completely.  The planned demise of the middle
class has been ongoing over my life-time. a 



--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
From the Declaration of Independence in 1776
 to World War 2 in 1945, America was 
 trying to promote Democracy and Republicanism all
 over the world.  At that time, the two 
 major enemies of US was Britain and Spain.!!
 
From 1945 when the world lapsed into an
 Ideological Cold War, The US position 
 changed upside down and Promoting right-wing
 Dictatorships all over the world was 
 considered the best strategy to combat Communism. 
 Dictatorships are easier to control 
 and democracies have complications.
 
 In September 11th 2001, the US position
 again changed upside down and Promoting 
 Democracies all over the world was considered the
 best strategy by the Pentagon and the 
 CIA.
 
 In other words, You guys are returning back
 to Pre-1945 position.
 
 In other words, You are back to square
 one.!!

 
 
 Most (or at least many) people believe that the _de
 facto_ foreign policy  of the US 
 government has been to act to promote the
 continuation of the US citizen's lifestyle, 
 rather than to promote democracy or any other
 idealist goal.
 
 I think that a fair claim can be made that THIS goal
 has been subverted to promote the 
 interests of specific individuals and groups over
 the national interests of the American 
 public in general, but that you're fooling yourself
 if  you think our national goals have 
 been lofty for a very long time.
 
 
 Lawson
 
 


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