Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
YouTube is such a great resource. Good thing that some studios aren't
so uptight as the purge all these little gems from it.
One of the things I regret from my college days was falling asleep in my
afternoon music history lectures. The professor was really damn good
and I didn't want to miss a minute but the old parasympathetic system
wanted to take over. One of the popular books with music students of
the day was a collection of Mozart's letters which were quite pithy and
risqué.
The modern day version of "too many notes" for many a musician is having
someone trundle up to the stage and saying "you play too many
dischords!" To which many musicians would respond "which chord? Dis
chord or dat chord." But that was many years ago and the public has
long since become accustom to chords which would have triggered that
response by pop music using more of them.
On 05/15/2015 12:12 AM, merudanda wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
snip
(because of certifiable short memory and time)
And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, who says
"too many notes" in the film "Amadeus" not Salieri. The story a
variation of Alexander Pushkin's play Mozart i Salieri (Моцарт и
Сальери, 1830) and other.
Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes."
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU>
image <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU>
Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes."
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU>
"Just cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few did you have in
mind?" A scene from my favorite movie of all time.
View on www.youtube.com <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU>
Preview by Yahoo
"Just cut a few and it'll be perfect."
"Which few You have in mind.."
Another damn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was "letterboxed"
instead of anamorphic.
On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-)
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*/But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and
can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-)
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*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... <mailto:mdixon.6569@...>
[FairfieldLife]"
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*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
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*Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see
on FFL is Maharishi's fault
As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes!
/*snip */(because of certifiable short memory and reading ability)*/
/*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
merundanda, there aren't enough letters in BD for me to figure out what that
is!Perhaps purloined by Amadeus and trans muted into notes?
From: merudanda
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is
Maharishi's fault
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
snip
(because of certifiable short memory and time)
And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, whosays "too many
notes" in the film "Amadeus" not Salieri. The story a variation of Alexander
Pushkin's play Mozart i Salieri (Моцарт и Сальери, 1830) and other.
Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes."
||
|||| Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes." "Just
cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few did you have in mind?" A scene from
my favorite movie of all time.||
| View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo|
||
"Just cut a few and it'll be perfect."
"Which few You have in mind.."
Anotherdamn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was "letterboxed"instead of
anamorphic.
On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yeah but look who he was saying itabout. :-)
But I understand...some peoplehave short attention spans, and can't read
morethan 30 words. This post is for them. :-)
From:"Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife]"
To:"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent:Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria wesee on FFL is
Maharishi's fault
AsAntonio Salieri would say... toomany notes!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : snip (because of certifiable short memory and time) And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, who says "too many notes" in the film "Amadeus" not Salieri. The story a variation of Alexander Pushkin's play Mozart i Salieri (Моцарт и Сальери, 1830) and other. Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU Amadeus - "There are simply too many notes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU "Just cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few did you have in mind?" A scene from my favorite movie of all time. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCud8H7z7vU Preview by Yahoo "Just cut a few and it'll be perfect." "Which few You have in mind.." Another damn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was "letterboxed" instead of anamorphic. On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-) But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! snip (because of certifiable short memory and reading ability)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Nobody read it Barry. Your fan boy may have skimmed it. But, nobody read it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-) But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual exper
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Jesus, Barry. Just come off it for a change. Give it a different slant. But, if really, if you want to stake a claim to your brand of spirituality, then so be it. But damn, I wish you'd have the courage to raise it up the flagpole, and see if anyone salutes. P.S. It ain't "content", Barry. It just ain't. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The word for it is, in fact, "pathological." We've been pointing out to Steve and Doug (the only two of the 3 worth even bothering to try to interact with) for well over a year now, trying to get them to step back and realize that in all that time they haven't posted ANYTHING positive and spiritual to this supposedly "spiritual" forum they keep whining about. And they're *still* doing it, even though there is an alternative place to post where supposedly none of the "obstacles" to them "revealing their spiritual sides exist." I think that anyone sane has to deduce from this that they don't actually *have* a "spiritual side." They just like to bitch and harass people they consider their enemies. What a sad fuckin' life. Meanwhile, you and I and Michael and Anartaxius and aryavazhi and others they dump on have made dozens -- possibly hundreds -- of posts about spiritual topics. THEY HAVEN'T. I'm pointing this out so that it's right in their faces and they have to deal with it or lose all credibility whatsoever. I don't think any of them CAN post anything completely positive and spiritual at this point. They've dwelled so long in gray, lower-astral hate mindstates that they can't extract themselves from them. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a "life review" when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Sal, look, the simple solution is to find a new home for all your fascinating "content" But, we all know why this won't happen, because your content is all about complaining about those, who are complaining about you, complaining about them. And plus, I find it sort of fun to push the buttons, of the self proclaimed called button pushers. That is, after all, how Barry refers to his participation here. It's all good Sal. Tea and crumpets, anyone? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a "life review" when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I guess at some point, the hunter, becomes the hunted, so to speak. He has bought in so heavily to this meme as Barry Wright, "Cult Detective" that this has, sort of overtaken his personality. His posting "content" consists of longer, and shorter versions of he same story. I suppose he and Sal, and MJ could form their own little team of "Cult Busters" They've already got a ready made great song. Just change that one word. "They ain't afraid of no cult!" Just Dance 2014 - Ghostbusters - 5* Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Just Dance 2014 - Ghostbusters - 5* Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Facebook: http://goo.gl/uzEe2 - Twitter: http://goo.gl/JGnct Ghostbusters by Ray Parker, Jr. Difficulty: Medium View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMIpphEXHs8 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : He sounds very JELLOS of you Steve. You've obviously reached a whole new state of spiritual insight and you've got your own family and a successful business that is a going concern. Like I was telling Jim, enlightenment means being happy and enjoying success in all your desires and goals - the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? Thanks for trying to help the poor TurqB. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? Obviously he is trying to reach out. Some people feel better when they have someone to talk to. You may be his only connection with reality these days, Steve. He may be delusional at this point. Who knows what kind of deprivation and peer pressure he's going through over there at those leftist bohemian cafes. if anyone even reads it. Maybe you can understand now why they got kicked of the TMO - they suck as spiritual teachers. No new insight; they failed to reach enlightenment in 5-7 years, or even a decade. They produced zero enlightened students in three decades of spiritual teaching. They promised us a lot more than they could deliver - from enlightenment to flying and levitation. If they mislead us for all those years, who would believe anything they say now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I don't think it is short attention spans but time to read it. We see long posts and think "I'll read that later". Nobody's posts on FFL are *so important* that they need to be read immediately, are they? I mean that would be a narcissistic trait of the poster if there ever was one. And BTW, it was Jeffery Jones character Emperoro Joseph II, who says "too many notes" in the film "Amadeus" not Salieri. Another damn film I need to find a BD of as my DVD was "letterboxed" instead of anamorphic. On 05/14/2015 07:21 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-)/* */But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) /* *From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! *From:* "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : */For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would l
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
That's what I'm taking about! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "TM research" -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
Yeah but look who he was saying it about. :-) But I understand...some people have short attention spans, and can't read more than 30 words. This post is for them. :-) From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
From: salyavin808 I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The word for it is, in fact, "pathological." We've been pointing out to Steve and Doug (the only two of the 3 worth even bothering to try to interact with) for well over a year now, trying to get them to step back and realize that in all that time they haven't posted ANYTHING positive and spiritual to this supposedly "spiritual" forum they keep whining about. And they're *still* doing it, even though there is an alternative place to post where supposedly none of the "obstacles" to them "revealing their spiritual sides exist." I think that anyone sane has to deduce from this that they don't actually *have* a "spiritual side." They just like to bitch and harass people they consider their enemies. What a sad fuckin' life. Meanwhile, you and I and Michael and Anartaxius and aryavazhi and others they dump on have made dozens -- possibly hundreds -- of posts about spiritual topics. THEY HAVEN'T. I'm pointing this out so that it's right in their faces and they have to deal with it or lose all credibility whatsoever. I don't think any of them CAN post anything completely positive and spiritual at this point. They've dwelled so long in gray, lower-astral hate mindstates that they can't extract themselves from them. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a "life review" when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several time
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
As Antonio Salieri would say... too many notes! From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "TM research" -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for peop
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
So, fifteen subscribers, including all the women, left the group to protest the degrading, malicious and demeaning slurs, but it's all Buck's fault for complaining about it. And, now you want to talk about spiritual experiences. Can you spell delusional? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Correction: It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. And you did that instead of reacting to a clear prompt from a newbie to discuss your experiences in transcendence. And you did it by slagging off everyone else in your usual whiny fashion (much like the rest of your post here). And in case you hadn't noticed, we actually managed to turn it into just the sort of discussion about meditation that you claim is lacking round here. Go figure. This is why we think you are hallucinating. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
It looks like they're tilting at windmills, Buck - flailing around trying to find someone to blame for their own spiritual failures. Apparently they were not able to even practice a simple, easy meditation technique. Go figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Not everyone is ready to be a spiritual teacher. They probably can't even remember the words to the initiation or even their mantra to meditate on. Failure is sometimes a tough reality to admit. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. "A straw man or straw person, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually ge
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
I think you are correct and I think it's pathological to insist that a chat room is not spiritual enough and then stay there dragging the place down instead of thinking of relevant contributions, especially when you have a ready made alternative just a mouse click away where all is sweetness and light. The need to stick around and bitch is symptomatic of something but I can't be bothered to do any research into it because it's so dull. I really hope there's no such thing as a "life review" when we die, because the three whining trolls here are going to really hate seeing how much of their lives they've spent saying the same thing over and over again. And to no effect. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. And one thing is really for sure, this aint spiritual behaviour. Or I read the wrong books... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "TM research" -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hop
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
He sounds very JELLOS of you Steve. You've obviously reached a whole new state of spiritual insight and you've got your own family and a successful business that is a going concern. Like I was telling Jim, enlightenment means being happy and enjoying success in all your desires and goals - the proof of the pudding is in the eating. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? Thanks for trying to help the poor TurqB. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? Obviously he is trying to reach out. Some people feel better when they have someone to talk to. You may be his only connection with reality these days, Steve. He may be delusional at this point. Who knows what kind of deprivation and peer pressure he's going through over there at those leftist bohemian cafes. if anyone even reads it. Maybe you can understand now why they got kicked of the TMO - they suck as spiritual teachers. No new insight; they failed to reach enlightenment in 5-7 years, or even a decade. They produced zero enlightened students in three decades of spiritual teaching. They promised us a lot more than they could deliver - from enlightenment to flying and levitation. If they mislead us for all those years, who would believe anything they say now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience"
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. Correction: It was you who insinuated that this place wasn't a place to talk about spiritual things. And you did that instead of reacting to a clear prompt from a newbie to discuss your experiences in transcendence. And you did it by slagging off everyone else in your usual whiny fashion (much like the rest of your post here). And in case you hadn't noticed, we actually managed to turn it into just the sort of discussion about meditation that you claim is lacking round here. Go figure. This is why we think you are hallucinating. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little att
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
It is just their usual toxic meme abusing and demeaning people here at FFL they get to rant calling people 'whiners' degrading and humiliating folks by slur that folks are, 'hallucinating' and 'hysterical'. ..asserting large strawman-like assumptions in method about people and then using the opportunity to publicly degrade and humiliate folks here with the insinuating slur. It is formulaic meme with them here in a writing methodically to abuse and hurt people. Often in complete violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines that way, it is simply toxic to the community of the group here. Rick as owner of this yahoo-group should set in motion something and do something about this. Enforcing the Yahoo-groups guidelines should improve the forum of this yahoo-group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "TM research" -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt l
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the whiny hysteria we see on FFL is Maharishi's fault
certifiable at this point? if anyone even reads it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : For some time now (over a year, and escalating after one particular person took a powder from the forum and essentially told everyone here to fuck off and die), the primary characteristic of the forum called Fairfield Life has IMO been whining. A few TM TBs, deprived of their version of Saint Joan to fight their battles for them against the invading hoard of infidels, tried to do the same thing themselves, and with disastrous results. Not being able to *stand* the fact that people who disagreed with them about the importance of TM, Maharishi, and above all their over-corpulent egos could express these thing freely here, they set about a non-stop snipe hunt in which they tried to demonize them and make them go away. That exercise in pettiness went so far that one of the constant heretic-attackers finally went over the line and resorted to actual slander -- he encouraged people to call or write officials in the home town of one poster he particularly hated, and tell them that he was a child molestor. Rightfully busted on this, he ran off with his tail between his legs and tried to form a new group, one in which supposedly right-thinking, *really* spiritual people like himself could talk about "spirituality" without being interrupted by horrible heretics like myself. It took less than a month for him to throw the first person off of his new forum, for the sin of revealing what he was up to back over on FFL, the forum he'd sworn he would never visit again as long as I was here. Go figure. What a fuckin' soap opera, right? So anyway, a few of these folks left, and started their own forum, one on which they can supposedly say anything they want about their so-called "peak" experiences, without anyone pissing in their cyberpunchbowl. One would think they'd be happy, and...uh...stay over there, where they claim things are so much better. But n. A hard-core few of them spend more time writing to Fairfield Life than they do The_Leak, saying essentially the same thing over and over and over: "We don't like it over here, because a few people don't treat us with the respect we deserve when we talk about 'spiritual' topics. These people are BAD, and should be made to go away, so we can 'share' our spiritual experiences without fear of interruption or embarrassing demands for proof of our claims." Blah-blah-blah. You know the whine...you've heard it now for quite some time. My contention in this post is that the whining comes directly from how they were taught to act and live by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. HE was the one who taught these TM followers that the only safe way they could live in this world was to clump together in groups. If you were doing Maharishi's "program" correctly, you had to live in TM-only communities, reside in TM-approved houses, bounce on your butts together several times a day, and participate in the sessions in which you "share experiences" and get them voted "#1 experiences" or "#2 experiences" or whatever. In those "sharing" sessions, there were always two sides to the "sharing." A few people would have actual experiences to share, and if they were deemed #1 experiences, everybody would look at them in an envious way and inwardly go "Woo!," and they'd actually get some attention. In the TMO, with its we-only-have-one-leader-and-he's-the-only-one-there-will-ever-be-allowed-to-become-the-focus-of-attention mentality, getting a little attention by talking about your "spiritual experiences" in one of these sharing sessions was pretty much the only attention you were ever going to get. The other side of the "sharing experience" was personified by the much larger vast majority of people who never had anything to share. THEY were there because many of them had never really ever HAD a major spiritual experience, and they needed to hear other people talk about *theirs* so as not to lose hope. It was the same rationale as all the "TM research" -- even if you had never had any experiences in decades of meditating that felt like the enlightenment you were promised, you could still have hope if you heard other people talking about *their* experiences or saw some chart that suggested they were actually *having* experiences. Now think about Fairfield Life. Same thing. Same dynamic. Sure, when Rick started the forum, it was intended as a safe forum for people who had gripes with the TMO to express them, and some of that has determined the character and the nature of the forum ever since. But for a smaller number of FFL participants, this was a place where they could come and act out the two sides of the dome "sharing" experience in cyberspace. Those who were hungry for attention could talk about their supposedly "spiritual" experiences, and a few people would go "Woo" and they'd get some attention. There is no need to name these
