Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
on 4/5/06 2:32 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > But Maharishi doesn't have a Jackie in his life. He had many "Jackies," as did JFK. And one of them claims to have written a book which she'll publish after he dies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/06 11:20 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: > >> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like > >> seen here over the last several years. > >> > > The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few > > emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you've really got nothing. Skin > > boys don't know Jack. If insiders like Rick and Mark, who have spent > > years inside the TMO, don't have the dirty lowdown, then probably > > nobody has it. That is, unless Rick and Mark were never really inside > > the TMO in the first place. In order to be inside the TMO you'd have > > to be inside the big house at Vlodrop inside the Marshy's bedroom. > > Like Jennifer, Judith, Linda, Angie, etc., etc. Well, Maharishi, was born the same year, as President Kennedy(1917)... And we'll never know all the details of his life, or the organisations, he was involved with, or were involved with him. Some revelations should be revealed at sometime in the future, when Jackie Kennedy's writings are revealed. But Maharishi doesn't have a Jackie in his life; His Jackie is Guru Dev... It's a different culture. He didn't grow up in Brooklyn, or Boston, we have to remember that. And his experiences of the sixties might be different then what we remember... Who really knows anything, about anything, really.. When it comes to the internal workings of a person, an organization, or even a wife or husband. Anyone ever hear of Maya... > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
on 4/5/06 11:20 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Vaj wrote: >> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like >> seen here over the last several years. >> > The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few > emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you've really got nothing. Skin > boys don't know Jack. If insiders like Rick and Mark, who have spent > years inside the TMO, don't have the dirty lowdown, then probably > nobody has it. That is, unless Rick and Mark were never really inside > the TMO in the first place. In order to be inside the TMO you'd have > to be inside the big house at Vlodrop inside the Marshy's bedroom. Like Jennifer, Judith, Linda, Angie, etc., etc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
Vaj wrote: > I was thinking of more recent material and comment like > seen here over the last several years. > The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you've really got nothing. Skin boys don't know Jack. If insiders like Rick and Mark, who have spent years inside the TMO, don't have the dirty lowdown, then probably nobody has it. That is, unless Rick and Mark were never really inside the TMO in the first place. In order to be inside the TMO you'd have to be inside the big house at Vlodrop inside the Marshy's bedroom. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
sparaig wrote: > They don't maintain the websites any more that I can tell. > Trancenet has been down for a couple of years - Minit Org (Meditation Information Network) hasn't been updated since at least 1994. However, Mike Doughney and John Knapp drop in every once in a while on Usenet to try and start another forum riot or flame war. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:02 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this? > > Some. > > I was thinking of more recent material and comment like seen here > over the last several years. > > I had the impression that the TM-ex material had changed little in > years. Am I incorrect in my impression? > They don't maintain the websites any more that I can tell. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:02 AM, sparaig wrote: > As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this? Some. I was thinking of more recent material and comment like seen here over the last several years. I had the impression that the TM-ex material had changed little in years. Am I incorrect in my impression? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
sparaig wrote: > As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this? > Apparently not. I've read all of the TM-ex stuff posted on Usenet by Lon P. Stacks, Steve Perino, John Manning, Robert Kropinsky, John Knapp, Don Krieger, and Mike Doughney, several times, and there's no 'low down' information in there. It's all been thouroughly discredited. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:09 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > > > I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by "lowdown". > > I practiced TM for decades, did most every course possible, lived in > > ffld for decades and did some independent poking around as the kool > > aid wore off, but still knew only a fraction of the lowdown until I > > was put in touch with some ex personal secretaries of MMY, skin boys. > > Even they only know bits and pieces of what really goes on based on > > what their job was. The lowdown on the TMO is much more secret than > > most movts. Wilber may know some things about the practice, but > > practically nothing about the movt I'd wager. > > Precisely what I was trying to convey, thanks for sharing your own > experience. > As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
Vaj wrote: > Precisely what I was trying to convey, thanks for sharing your > own experience. > Mark just admitted that after decades of poking around, he still hardly knows anything, and he lived in Fairfield for years, a town you apparently never even visited. From what I've read, you haven't been within a thousand miles of a Maharishi Golden Dome in years. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
markmeredith2002 wrote: > I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by > "lowdown". I practiced TM for decades, did most every course > possible, lived in ffld for decades and did some independent > poking around as the kool aid wore off, > So, Mark, you spent almost your entire life inside a cult drinking koolaid and NOW you want us to believe what you have to say. If you lied about the Marshy for all those years, who's to say you're not lying now? > but still knew only a fraction of the lowdown until I was put > in touch with some ex personal secretaries of MMY, skin boys. > Marshy's 'skin boys' probably know less that anyone about the 'low down' on the Marshy. I've known Ned Wynn since 1963 and the guy still doesn't have a clue what's going on. Tom Anderson was Marshy's secretary at Lan Antilla, and he's the insider that posted dozens of purported 'low down' anecdotes on Usenet - all of them nothing but misinformation and all of them totally discredited. > Even they only know bits and pieces of what really goes on > based on what their job was. > To carry the Marshy's skin? > The lowdown on the TMO is much more secret than most movts. > Wilber may know some things about the practice, but practically > nothing about the movt I'd wager. > How much would you be willing to wager? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:09 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote: > I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by "lowdown". > I practiced TM for decades, did most every course possible, lived in > ffld for decades and did some independent poking around as the kool > aid wore off, but still knew only a fraction of the lowdown until I > was put in touch with some ex personal secretaries of MMY, skin boys. > Even they only know bits and pieces of what really goes on based on > what their job was. The lowdown on the TMO is much more secret than > most movts. Wilber may know some things about the practice, but > practically nothing about the movt I'd wager. Precisely what I was trying to convey, thanks for sharing your own experience. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: learn the truth about TM - lowdown
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Willy > > On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: > > > > > What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard > > > the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement. > > > > > Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-authored 'Spiritual > > Choices' with Dick Anthony and you're saying that he probably never > > heard the 'dirty lowdown' on Marshy? Next you'll be telling us that > > Wilber never heard about the 'dirty lowdown' on the Adi Da Samraj. > > Get real! > > We don't know if he did or did not. Given that most of the lowdown on > the TMO is shrouded in secrecy and often only accessible to an inner > core of followers, I'd be surprised if he did. This list is certainly > an example where secret material, some negative, filters out even to > the surprise of old and close students of M. Unlike people like Adi > Da or Rajneesh there really hasn't been an big expose on M. and the > movement. They are very good at controlling information and of > course, selling it. > > Go figure. > > > > > > > It's important to admire the diamonds in this life...but it's > > > also important to see the shit they're embedded in... > > > > > So, you're saying that Wilber's parents practice TM, but Wilber > > doesn't see the 'shit they're embedded in'? Go figure. > > > > You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you make your comments. > > If I wanted to know what he thought, I'd read something more recent, > the book you're referencing is 20 years old. I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by "lowdown". I practiced TM for decades, did most every course possible, lived in ffld for decades and did some independent poking around as the kool aid wore off, but still knew only a fraction of the lowdown until I was put in touch with some ex personal secretaries of MMY, skin boys. Even they only know bits and pieces of what really goes on based on what their job was. The lowdown on the TMO is much more secret than most movts. Wilber may know some things about the practice, but practically nothing about the movt I'd wager. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
