[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread srijau
I have has some experiences like this but with a close genetic relative.

[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!




[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Cool - does it ever happen out of meditation?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have has some experiences like this but with a close genetic relative.



[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow, Ann - What a beautiful explanation of riding a horse! Probably everyone 
who has ever done so, can relate to what you have written - I sometimes try to 
imagine my paternal grandfather's experience, who relied on true 'horsepower' 
for much of his life, and didn't see a car until he was almost fifty years old. 
A world of horses.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!






[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!






[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

 No big prompting needed to get me to talk about animals so I will def get back 
to you on this. But, I am literally out the door to go ride in a clinic with a 
really good coach who has flown in for the weekend. I will report back after my 
ride... Want to hear more about your animal experiences as well. Later.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!








[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey, thanks Curtis. 

 Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've 
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is 
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not particularly sociable 
to anyone in the family.
 

 I cannot report much in the way of results, but it has opened a channel for 
me, that heretofore, I had not really thought much about.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!









[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hey, thanks Curtis. 

 Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've 
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is 
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not particularly sociable 
to anyone in the family.
 

 I cannot report much in the way of results, but it has opened a channel for 
me, that heretofore, I had not really thought much about.

C: Some kitties have a wild gene that makes them spooky for life. I usually 
make friends the old fashioned way with food. Is your cat friendly with the 
person who feeds it? You can make yourself the source of food by doling out the 
food whenever you are home. Cats are opportunists which is why we have any 
association with basically a wild animal. Whenever you see your cat, try and 
establish eye contact and blink or look away. That is cat for "everything is 
cool." Do you have a chase toy like a feather on a string with a stick for you 
to hold and fling the thing around? If a cat associates you with their 
continual martial arts training that can build a bond.

But as I said in the beginning, some cats are just on flight or flight (I 
intended it that way!) You only win them over in inches. But even an inch into 
another creature's world can feel good sometimes. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!











[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's cool Curtis. 

 Yes, of course the cat likes my wife who is the provider of food.
 

 And I will sometimes insist on petting it, and then it can't resist the 
scratching under the chin, and will even start purring, but then it forgets 
that episode in a matter of minutes.
 

 I just feel cheated, because they are always a few minutes when I want to sit 
and watch some TV with a kitty on my lap, but he's chillin in some other corner 
of the house.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hey, thanks Curtis. 

 Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've 
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is 
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not particularly sociable 
to anyone in the family.
 

 I cannot report much in the way of results, but it has opened a channel for 
me, that heretofore, I had not really thought much about.

C: Some kitties have a wild gene that makes them spooky for life. I usually 
make friends the old fashioned way with food. Is your cat friendly with the 
person who feeds it? You can make yourself the source of food by doling out the 
food whenever you are home. Cats are opportunists which is why we have any 
association with basically a wild animal. Whenever you see your cat, try and 
establish eye contact and blink or look away. That is cat for "everything is 
cool." Do you have a chase toy like a feather on a string with a stick for you 
to hold and fling the thing around? If a cat associates you with their 
continual martial arts training that can build a bond.

But as I said in the beginning, some cats are just on flight or flight (I 
intended it that way!) You only win them over in inches. But even an inch into 
another creature's world can feel good sometimes. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!














[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's cool Curtis. 

 Yes, of course the cat likes my wife who is the provider of food.
 

 And I will sometimes insist on petting it, and then it can't resist the 
scratching under the chin, and will even start purring, but then it forgets 
that episode in a matter of minutes.
 

 I just feel cheated, because they are always a few minutes when I want to sit 
and watch some TV with a kitty on my lap, but he's chillin in some other corner 
of the house.
 

 In my experience cats are still wild animals. They like certain comforts and 
so avail themselves of those things when readily accessible and when not too 
inconvenient. I never owned a cat except when I adopted a couple of brother 
kittens for a barn I owned. They were both feral and the SPCA wanted to put 
them down rather than adopt them out to an 'outside/outdoor' home. I sent a 
friend back in and had her embellish the truth about where the two kittens were 
going so that I could bring them to the farm. It worked, we adopted these two 
brothers who I named "Dylan" and "Thomas" and they lived happily ever after 
eating organic cat food, seeing the vet regularly and even when Dylan got his 
tail mysteriously broken I spent the $600 to have it amputated and tended to 
(it broke right at the base of the poor guy's spine). But to be perfectly 
honest with you, I am not a cat fan. They live a little bit too much in their 
own world to be as accessible as I would like them to be in order to be able to 
consider them an actual "pet". They can be unpredictable, cold, distant and 
unavailable just when you were hoping for a little lovin'. They are amazing 
creatures and very beautiful in their form and their agility. They are so 
wonderfully creepy sometimes too when they hop sideways all arched up and 
stiff-legged. So I get where you're coming from, Steve. Having a cat that won't 
trust and really love you after ten years is pushing the definition of "pet" 
past the point of no return.








[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I gotta say that the wild gene or not makes all the difference. I chose two 
purebred cats, a Bengal and and Abyssinian who came home with me at 6 weeks. 
They lived with me as my constant companions at home for 20 and 19 years. When 
you get a cat who is bred into a loving family who socializes them after birth 
to love humans, you can enter into feline intelligence, and it is a wonderland. 
Without the prefontal cortex restraints on their emotional lives, they can 
focus a love beam on you that is heart melting and powerful. My kitties lived 
to please me and learned many tricks. But what always amazed visitors the most 
was the stream of communication through their eyes. Constantly monitoring me as 
I was them. It was the opposite of cold and distant, I never saw that behavior 
from them. They came when I called them every time. It was high bandwidth flow 
and I miss it dearly.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That's cool Curtis. 

 Yes, of course the cat likes my wife who is the provider of food.
 

 And I will sometimes insist on petting it, and then it can't resist the 
scratching under the chin, and will even start purring, but then it forgets 
that episode in a matter of minutes.
 

 I just feel cheated, because they are always a few minutes when I want to sit 
and watch some TV with a kitty on my lap, but he's chillin in some other corner 
of the house.
 

 In my experience cats are still wild animals. They like certain comforts and 
so avail themselves of those things when readily accessible and when not too 
inconvenient. I never owned a cat except when I adopted a couple of brother 
kittens for a barn I owned. They were both feral and the SPCA wanted to put 
them down rather than adopt them out to an 'outside/outdoor' home. I sent a 
friend back in and had her embellish the truth about where the two kittens were 
going so that I could bring them to the farm. It worked, we adopted these two 
brothers who I named "Dylan" and "Thomas" and they lived happily ever after 
eating organic cat food, seeing the vet regularly and even when Dylan got his 
tail mysteriously broken I spent the $600 to have it amputated and tended to 
(it broke right at the base of the poor guy's spine). But to be perfectly 
honest with you, I am not a cat fan. They live a little bit too much in their 
own world to be as accessible as I would like them to be in order to be able to 
consider them an actual "pet". They can be unpredictable, cold, distant and 
unavailable just when you were hoping for a little lovin'. They are amazing 
creatures and very beautiful in their form and their agility. They are so 
wonderfully creepy sometimes too when they hop sideways all arched up and 
stiff-legged. So I get where you're coming from, Steve. Having a cat that won't 
trust and really love you after ten years is pushing the definition of "pet" 
past the point of no return.










[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?
 

 This is not hard to do, my safety depends upon it. When you are intimately 
connected to a horse's body (as a good rider inevitably is) then you have 
access to many things. First, without getting too complicated here, you have a 
literal feel of the horses mouth and lips in both hands, you ass is sitting on 
its back which is where all the movement happens, and your legs are embracing 
his lungs and heart area. With this kind of touching you'd have to be an 
insensitive cretin not to have some idea what is going on in the actual brain 
of the horse. (Unfortunately, the horse world is filled with insensitive 
cretins but that is another story.)
 

 Basically horses can be a little like cats. One minute they are calm and 
sedate and the next moment they are running sideways down the arena. They can 
appear aloof and untouched by your presence and at other times can't get in 
your pocket fast enough. There is a whole lot of wild still in there as well.
 And they are total pushovers for the hand that feeds them but only if you have 
the actual bucket in your hand at the time  - otherwise you're just another 
schlep. But then there are those times when you can be convinced that the horse 
is actually glad to see you, just you with no bucket. But, I digress.
 

 So, basically when you're all in touch with the horse, in that saddle and 
riding along asking him to do all sorts of natural and unnatural things and he 
is happy to do so that is because you are asking for the right thing at the 
right moment and then allowing it to happen. In order to know what to ask and 
when to ask and how to ask and then when to stop asking means you have to know 
the mind of the horse to a certain extent. You have to know what he knows, you 
have to know if you prepared him in the moments before asking and then you have 
to know how much to ask and when it is too much or not enough and then you have 
to figure out if his resistance is mental or physical. There are so many 
calculations to make in order to do just one movement that it transcends 
thinking. You don't have time to think all those things. So then what? It means 
you feel it. In order to feel it you have to know something about yourself and 
also something about the horse. And you end up making mistakes all the time. 
You end up betraying the horse or causing them resentment toward you. You can 
give them ulcers or hurt their bodies by breaking them - literally. They are 
very, very delicate. They basically die of only two things - intestinal issues 
and leg issues. Many of these things are brought about by people's 
insensitivity and by forcing. When you climb on the back of these animals you 
have a real responsibility because for as strong and willing and giving as 
these animals are, all of that can be destroyed by selfishness or greed or ego.
 

 I don't think I answered your question after all that.
 

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its 

[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?


[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?
 

 This is not hard to do, my safety depends upon it. When you are intimately 
connected to a horse's body (as a good rider inevitably is) then you have 
access to many things. First, without getting too complicated here, you have a 
literal feel of the horses mouth and lips in both hands, you ass is sitting on 
its back which is where all the movement happens, and your legs are embracing 
his lungs and heart area. With this kind of touching you'd have to be an 
insensitive cretin not to have some idea what is going on in the actual brain 
of the horse. (Unfortunately, the horse world is filled with insensitive 
cretins but that is another story.)
 

 Basically horses can be a little like cats. One minute they are calm and 
sedate and the next moment they are running sideways down the arena. They can 
appear aloof and untouched by your presence and at other times can't get in 
your pocket fast enough. There is a whole lot of wild still in there as well.
 And they are total pushovers for the hand that feeds them but only if you have 
the actual bucket in your hand at the time  - otherwise you're just another 
schlep. But then there are those times when you can be convinced that the horse 
is actually glad to see you, just you with no bucket. But, I digress.
 

 So, basically when you're all in touch with the horse, in that saddle and 
riding along asking him to do all sorts of natural and unnatural things and he 
is happy to do so that is because you are asking for the right thing at the 
right moment and then allowing it to happen. In order to know what to ask and 
when to ask and how to ask and then when to stop asking means you have to know 
the mind of the horse to a certain extent. You have to know what he knows, you 
have to know if you prepared him in the moments before asking and then you have 
to know how much to ask and when it is too much or not enough and then you have 
to figure out if his resistance is mental or physical. There are so many 
calculations to make in order to do just one movement that it transcends 
thinking. You don't have time to think all those things. So then what? It means 
you feel it. In order to feel it you have to know something about yourself and 
also something about the horse. And you end up making mistakes all the time. 
You end up betraying the horse or causing them resentment toward you. You can 
give them ulcers or hurt their bodies by breaking them - literally. They are 
very, very delicate. They basically die of only two things - intestinal issues 
and leg issues. Many of these things are brought about by people's 
insensitivity and by forcing. When you climb on the back of these animals you 
have a real responsibility because for as strong and willing and giving as 
these animals are, all of that can be destroyed by selfishness or greed or ego.
 

 I don't think I answered your question after all that.
 

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 Well, it is a man's world out there in the racing circles and you have to 
carry a certain amount of weight depending upon how the horse is handicapped so 
the lighter is not the better, you just don't want to weigh more than the horse 
is slotted to carry, obviously. Women have had a hard time breaking into the 
bigger more well-known races and tracks although there have been some wonderful 
women jockeys and they can definitely ride as well as men. You'll see a much 
more equal distribution of women to men in all the other riding disciplines 
except bronco busting and bull riding. Women are simply too smart to do that.
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 

 Yes, generally if I have to choose between spending an afternoon with a few 
dogs or horses or spending it with a bunch of people I would say it would be 
the former. I also prefer long solitary walks in the forest to tripping down to 
my local mall. But it really depends. I spend enough time here at FFL and there 
seems to be people (of sorts) here!
 







[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 







[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When I wrote figuratively: "You can almost sense their [a horse's] sneer" it is 
probably more accurate to write "They [horses] can smell your fear". I don't 
know what scientific research has been put into the facts behind common 
expressions like that but I feel sure horses can pick up on cues given off by 
our nervousness. It's as if it's beneath their dignity to allow themselves to 
be mastered by anyone but a natural-born master or mistress. 

 It sounds like you should have been born into the world of the Houyhnhnms 
described in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Houyhnhnms are a race of 
intelligent horses whose calm, rational, utopian society is compared favourably 
to our dismal lot.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 








 
  



[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When I wrote figuratively: "You can almost sense their [a horse's] sneer" it 
is probably more accurate to write "They [horses] can smell your fear". I don't 
know what scientific research has been put into the facts behind common 
expressions like that but I feel sure horses can pick up on cues given off by 
our nervousness. It's as if it's beneath their dignity to allow themselves to 
be mastered by anyone but a natural-born master or mistress.
 

 Horses can simply see when a person moves in an unnatural way around them. 
They are honed to recognize strangeness or trepidation. They, like any prey 
animal, are hard wired to detect fear in another and that makes them fearful, 
it does not make them aggressive. Dogs would be more likely to start stalking a 
person that shows fear but horses simply become unsure and when they are in a 
situation where there are no clear boundaries they want to create them so they 
start to take over. But it isn't an aggressive or mean-spirited. Horses live in 
a herd, there is a hierarchy and if you are proving yourself a greenhorn then 
you're at the bottom of the pack - simple as that!
 

 It sounds like you should have been born into the world of the Houyhnhnms 
described in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Houyhnhnms are a race of 
intelligent horses whose calm, rational, utopian society is compared favourably 
to our dismal lot.
 

 Heh. Well, if I believed in reincarnation, and I am pretty sure that I do, 
then I would hazard to say I was a horse or horses at some point. They are 
ingrained in me. It doesn't mean I am a great horsewoman, I am not 
particularly, but I feel them and love them and have tremendous empathy for 
them in all sorts of ways. I can also reprimand them when I need to - no mood 
making there - but they are special and iconic for a reason. They represent so 
much.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 








 
  





[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good points about horses being prey animals and getting skittish around those 
who don't know what they are doing. I was an excellent and natural horseman 
when I was really little (7 to 9 years old). Then I grew up, realized what I 
was doing, and lost my confidence with the horses. Frowny face.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote : 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When I wrote figuratively: "You can almost sense their [a horse's] sneer" it 
is probably more accurate to write "They [horses] can smell your fear". I don't 
know what scientific research has been put into the facts behind common 
expressions like that but I feel sure horses can pick up on cues given off by 
our nervousness. It's as if it's beneath their dignity to allow themselves to 
be mastered by anyone but a natural-born master or mistress.
 

 Horses can simply see when a person moves in an unnatural way around them. 
They are honed to recognize strangeness or trepidation. They, like any prey 
animal, are hard wired to detect fear in another and that makes them fearful, 
it does not make them aggressive. Dogs would be more likely to start stalking a 
person that shows fear but horses simply become unsure and when they are in a 
situation where there are no clear boundaries they want to create them so they 
start to take over. But it isn't an aggressive or mean-spirited. Horses live in 
a herd, there is a hierarchy and if you are proving yourself a greenhorn then 
you're at the bottom of the pack - simple as that!
 

 It sounds like you should have been born into the world of the Houyhnhnms 
described in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Houyhnhnms are a race of 
intelligent horses whose calm, rational, utopian society is compared favourably 
to our dismal lot.
 

 Heh. Well, if I believed in reincarnation, and I am pretty sure that I do, 
then I would hazard to say I was a horse or horses at some point. They are 
ingrained in me. It doesn't mean I am a great horsewoman, I am not 
particularly, but I feel them and love them and have tremendous empathy for 
them in all sorts of ways. I can also reprimand them when I need to - no mood 
making there - but they are special and iconic for a reason. They represent so 
much.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 








 
  







[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-16 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good points about horses being prey animals and getting skittish around those 
who don't know what they are doing. I was an excellent and natural horseman 
when I was really little (7 to 9 years old). Then I grew up, realized what I 
was doing, and lost my confidence with the horses. Frowny face.
 

 
I guess innocence produces a naturalness that, once you realized horses were 
dangerous and that you could be hurt around them (or was that it?), the 
innocence leaves and you realize too much of what could happen and that somehow 
stilted your behaviour around them. Then, of course, it becomes a vicious 
circle. Man feels unsure, horses feel unsure around man, horses become 
suspicious and skittish, man becomes suspicious and skittish and before you 
know it you buy a dog and forget the horses. LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote : 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When I wrote figuratively: "You can almost sense their [a horse's] sneer" it 
is probably more accurate to write "They [horses] can smell your fear". I don't 
know what scientific research has been put into the facts behind common 
expressions like that but I feel sure horses can pick up on cues given off by 
our nervousness. It's as if it's beneath their dignity to allow themselves to 
be mastered by anyone but a natural-born master or mistress.
 

 Horses can simply see when a person moves in an unnatural way around them. 
They are honed to recognize strangeness or trepidation. They, like any prey 
animal, are hard wired to detect fear in another and that makes them fearful, 
it does not make them aggressive. Dogs would be more likely to start stalking a 
person that shows fear but horses simply become unsure and when they are in a 
situation where there are no clear boundaries they want to create them so they 
start to take over. But it isn't an aggressive or mean-spirited. Horses live in 
a herd, there is a hierarchy and if you are proving yourself a greenhorn then 
you're at the bottom of the pack - simple as that!
 

 It sounds like you should have been born into the world of the Houyhnhnms 
described in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Houyhnhnms are a race of 
intelligent horses whose calm, rational, utopian society is compared favourably 
to our dismal lot.
 

 Heh. Well, if I believed in reincarnation, and I am pretty sure that I do, 
then I would hazard to say I was a horse or horses at some point. They are 
ingrained in me. It doesn't mean I am a great horsewoman, I am not 
particularly, but I feel them and love them and have tremendous empathy for 
them in all sorts of ways. I can also reprimand them when I need to - no mood 
making there - but they are special and iconic for a reason. They represent so 
much.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 








 
  






 
  




[FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Pretty much the way it was - I grew up, and saw how big and strong they were. I 
have lost that apprehension, but haven't explored riding for a long while at 
this point.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good points about horses being prey animals and getting skittish around those 
who don't know what they are doing. I was an excellent and natural horseman 
when I was really little (7 to 9 years old). Then I grew up, realized what I 
was doing, and lost my confidence with the horses. Frowny face.
 

 
I guess innocence produces a naturalness that, once you realized horses were 
dangerous and that you could be hurt around them (or was that it?), the 
innocence leaves and you realize too much of what could happen and that somehow 
stilted your behaviour around them. Then, of course, it becomes a vicious 
circle. Man feels unsure, horses feel unsure around man, horses become 
suspicious and skittish, man becomes suspicious and skittish and before you 
know it you buy a dog and forget the horses. LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote : 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When I wrote figuratively: "You can almost sense their [a horse's] sneer" it 
is probably more accurate to write "They [horses] can smell your fear". I don't 
know what scientific research has been put into the facts behind common 
expressions like that but I feel sure horses can pick up on cues given off by 
our nervousness. It's as if it's beneath their dignity to allow themselves to 
be mastered by anyone but a natural-born master or mistress.
 

 Horses can simply see when a person moves in an unnatural way around them. 
They are honed to recognize strangeness or trepidation. They, like any prey 
animal, are hard wired to detect fear in another and that makes them fearful, 
it does not make them aggressive. Dogs would be more likely to start stalking a 
person that shows fear but horses simply become unsure and when they are in a 
situation where there are no clear boundaries they want to create them so they 
start to take over. But it isn't an aggressive or mean-spirited. Horses live in 
a herd, there is a hierarchy and if you are proving yourself a greenhorn then 
you're at the bottom of the pack - simple as that!
 

 It sounds like you should have been born into the world of the Houyhnhnms 
described in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Houyhnhnms are a race of 
intelligent horses whose calm, rational, utopian society is compared favourably 
to our dismal lot.
 

 Heh. Well, if I believed in reincarnation, and I am pretty sure that I do, 
then I would hazard to say I was a horse or horses at some point. They are 
ingrained in me. It doesn't mean I am a great horsewoman, I am not 
particularly, but I feel them and love them and have tremendous empathy for 
them in all sorts of ways. I can also reprimand them when I need to - no mood 
making there - but they are special and iconic for a reason. They represent so 
much.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure horses can tell a novice at first glance. You can almost sense their 
sneer. My only goes at horse-riding were as an adolescent and the horses always 
completely ignored my requests and goads. If a horse I was on wanted to stop 
and munch away at a hedge then that was what it would do. My instructor would 
have to come to my aid to get the damned beast (sorry - charming animal) keep 
up with the rest of the riders. 

 BTW, thanks for your amusing story of your short-lived riding career. I can't 
tell you how many times I have watched people in your situation and completely 
understand. You either come out of the womb loving it and if you didn't then 
forget about it. Riding is not really an acquired taste.
 

 Horses are also damned scary - they're a lot bigger than you imagine when you 
watch a cowboy movie and don't suffer fools gladly. Still, astonishingly 
beautiful and graceful creatures for all that.
 

 On a side issue: as race-horse jockeys are specifically chosen because they 
weigh so little why aren't women (or even girl) riders preferred over men for 
events where serious amounts of money are changing hands?
 

 From your recent posts I get the strong impression you prefer animals to 
humans! Is that (understandably) a correct impression?
 








 
  






 
  






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"our cat, who is afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not 
particularly sociable to anyone in the family"
Your cat is obviously the smartest dude in your neighborhood. Everyone else 
should pay close attention to how this cat comports himself.

  From: "curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding
   
    
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Hey, thanks Curtis.
Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've 
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is 
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not particularly sociable 
to anyone in the family.
I cannot report much in the way of results, but it has opened a channel for me, 
that heretofore, I had not really thought much about.

C: Some kitties have a wild gene that makes them spooky for life. I usually 
make friends the old fashioned way with food. Is your cat friendly with the 
person who feeds it? You can make yourself the source of food by doling out the 
food whenever you are home. Cats are opportunists which is why we have any 
association with basically a wild animal. Whenever you see your cat, try and 
establish eye contact and blink or look away. That is cat for "everything is 
cool." Do you have a chase toy like a feather on a string with a stick for you 
to hold and fling the thing around? If a cat associates you with their 
continual martial arts training that can build a bond.

But as I said in the beginning, some cats are just on flight or flight (I 
intended it that way!) You only win them over in inches. But even an inch into 
another creature's world can feel good sometimes. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and finding 
the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. Couple 
that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can start to 
appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its own free 
will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that body and 
communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, the 
horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of the 
horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in order 
to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible through 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding

2014-11-15 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I see, Michael. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "our cat, who is afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not 
particularly sociable to anyone in the family"
 

 Your cat is obviously the smartest dude in your neighborhood. Everyone else 
should pay close attention to how this cat comports himself.

 

 From: "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind melding
 
 
   

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hey, thanks Curtis. 

 Ever since I viewed that video about Anna Breytenbach that Ann posted I've 
tried my hand communicating with the doggies next store,and our cat, who is 
afraid of me, even after ten years of kindness, and not particularly sociable 
to anyone in the family.
 

 I cannot report much in the way of results, but it has opened a channel for 
me, that heretofore, I had not really thought much about.

C: Some kitties have a wild gene that makes them spooky for life. I usually 
make friends the old fashioned way with food. Is your cat friendly with the 
person who feeds it? You can make yourself the source of food by doling out the 
food whenever you are home. Cats are opportunists which is why we have any 
association with basically a wild animal. Whenever you see your cat, try and 
establish eye contact and blink or look away. That is cat for "everything is 
cool." Do you have a chase toy like a feather on a string with a stick for you 
to hold and fling the thing around? If a cat associates you with their 
continual martial arts training that can build a bond.

But as I said in the beginning, some cats are just on flight or flight (I 
intended it that way!) You only win them over in inches. But even an inch into 
another creature's world can feel good sometimes. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am fascinated by animal intelligence and am always curious if I can breach 
the rapport barrier and connect with their intelligence enough to understand a 
little bit of what is going on in there. Although I know this may be verging on 
an idiotic question Ann, I will ask it anyway. Can you describe at all what 
your impression is of what is going in in a horse's mind enough to describe 
some qualities of it?

I have had profound connections with a squirrel monkey, cats dogs and ferrets. 
(I am excluding gerbils because the obvious jokes would just write themselves.) 
In my interactions with them I have come to some conclusions about how they are 
processing the world differently from each other, and from me. It is all 
borderline fantasy, but if you interact enough you kind of get a sense, like 
feeling some object in the dark and drawing conclusions.

I hope that serves as a writing prompt because I love when you write about 
horses here.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is an interesting experience that always happens when I practice TM with 
my wife. I can feel my nearly pure awareness contact hers, and then the 
boundary is gone, and it is simply oneness, without boundary or ownership. I 
always flinch mentally, just as the boundary dissolves. It is as if I am 
suspended in an empty room, dimly lit by blue lights, and I sense another room, 
this one also empty, but dimly lit by purple lights. Then, suddenly the divider 
between the two is gone, and it is one room. This is probably more common that 
it sounds, especially given Share's experience in the dome ("ovals of light").
 

 I only get this riding my horse! The athletic movement of the horse and 
finding the way in which my body can work and move with his back is the goal. 
Couple that with the mental partnership of asking and responding and you can 
start to appreciate why this sport is so amazing. You take an animal with its 
own free will, its own ideas and you take its strong body and you sit on that 
body and communicate through touch what you would like to do and lo and behold, 
the horse responds and then your responsibility is to find a way to stay out of 
the horse's way, to integrate yourself with its mind and its physicality in 
order to become one thing moving as dynamically and effortlessly as possible 
through space. It really is all that!