Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/25/2014 6:20 AM, Share Long wrote:
 it took me a while to figure out the map. All those white specks are 
 Utopia Park, the trailer park built for the Taste of Utopia course. 
 Anyone can live in them is my understanding.
 
There must be a hundred modular homes for student housing up there at 
Utopia Village and I wouldn't be surprised if a number of adjunct 
faculty live there too. There is probably fifty or more on the pundit 
campus. A modular home can be a very cozy place to live. We have a 
company down here that makes and sells them - Palm Harbor Homes. In some 
cases, the modular homes are of superior construction and better quality 
control than some site built homes. Go figure.

It's very impressive what they have done up there at the MUM campus! We 
have a TM Ideal Village down here at Radiance - home of the Maharishi 
Golden Dome out in Hays County just outside Austin. The Maharishi Dome 
at Radiance is a smaller version of the Patanjali Dome in Fairfield. It 
has been in continuous use as a meditation facility since 1983. The 
Maharishi Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge is a 70 foot diameter section of 
a sphere.



 Oh look, the swimming pool, the aqua speck! I LOVE maps, must have 
 been a hobbit in previous life (-:



Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-25 Thread Share Long
Sorry, Richard, it took me a while to figure out the map. All those white 
specks are Utopia Park, the trailer park built for the Taste of Utopia course. 
Anyone can live in them is my understanding. 

Oh look, the swimming pool, the aqua speck! I LOVE maps, must have been a 
hobbit in previous life (-:





On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:22 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the MUM 
campus consisting of modular homes 

Maybe. Hey anyone who lives in FF, are those residences and for who(m)?







On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

But it should resemble
some configuration that a human being would want to live in. The
compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm.

It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.



I'm not sure it does based on this campus map.











Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 3/23/2014 10:17 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
The chanting rooms seemed nice enough but c'mon, I really think a 
greater care should have been made to ensure the rest of the 
environment was livable. It makes me crazy to think these guys were 
confined to these types of barracks when at least in India you have 
the richness of color and all of the other myriad sensory input that 
is characteristic of a hot climate where the smells of people, 
pavement, animals and food mingle in a way to let you know you are in 
the land of the living. I can't think of a place that is more out of 
keeping with what they must be used to environmentally/aesthetically. 


Speaking of living conditions in India - has anyone seen the movie 
Slumdog Millionaire? It's nice to have a fantasy about the mountain 
scenery in India and living in a picturesque ashram in Rishikesh, but 
the reality is quite different over there for the vast majority of people.


You can can say what you want abut the modular homes the pundits occupy, 
but it's actually a lot closer to the real world than the Vastu houses 
that surround the compound up in Vedic City.  Compared to the average 
home in India, one average Vastu house in Vedic City looks like the Taj 
Mahal. I'm not that familiar with housing costs in Fairfield, but a 
Vastu house like those I see on Google Earth would go for at least 
$300,000 around here. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 3/23/2014 10:17 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Thechanting rooms seemed nice enough but c'mon, I really think a greater care 
should have been made to ensure the rest of the environment was livable. It 
makes me crazy to think these guys were confined to these types of barracks 
when at least in India you have the richness of color and all of the other 
myriad sensory input that is characteristic of a hot climate where the smells 
of people, pavement, animals and food mingle in a way to let you know you are 
in the land of the living. I can't think of a place that is more out of keeping 
with what they must be used to environmentally/aesthetically.  
 Speaking of living conditions in India - has anyone seen the movie Slumdog 
Millionaire? It's nice to have a fantasy about the mountain scenery in India 
and living in a picturesque ashram in Rishikesh, but the reality is quite 
different over there for the vast majority of people.  
 I'm not talkin' about mountain scenery and picturesque ashrams, I was talking 
about city streets and crowded neighborhoods if you actually read what I wrote.
 
 You can can say what you want abut the modular homes the pundits occupy, but 
it's actually a lot closer to the real world than the Vastu houses that 
surround the compound up in Vedic City.  Compared to the average home in India, 
one average Vastu house in Vedic City looks like the Taj Mahal. I'm not that 
familiar with housing costs in Fairfield, but a Vastu house like those I see on 
Google Earth would go for at least $300,000 around here. Go figure.
 
 Whatever you want to call it where they live it is still reminiscent of an 
army barracks and my point was it doesn't have to be. Nor does it have to be a 
Taj Mahal. But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would 
want to live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm. 
 
 
 
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would 
want to live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm.


It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

 But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would want to 
live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm. 
 It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.
 
 I'm not sure it does based on this campus map. 
 
 
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Pundit Sir
Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the MUM
campus consisting of modular homes

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:






 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would want to
 live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm.

 
 It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.


 I'm not sure it does based on this campus map.





  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Share Long
Richard, that's right. There are some vastu modular dorms for women near the 
women's Dome and vastu modular dorms for men near the men's Dome. What a system!

I'm now going to google earth myself (-:





On Monday, March 24, 2014 1:17 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the MUM 
campus consisting of modular homes 






On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

But it should resemble
some configuration that a human being would want to live in. The
compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm.

It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.



I'm not sure it does based on this campus map.











Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Pundit Sir
It kind of looks like a Utopia Village with maybe a hundred modular homes
for students.

[image: Inline image 1]


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Richard, that's right. There are some vastu modular dorms for women near
 the women's Dome and vastu modular dorms for men near the men's Dome. What
 a system!

 I'm now going to google earth myself (-:




   On Monday, March 24, 2014 1:17 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the
 MUM campus consisting of modular homes

 [image: Inline image 1]


 On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:





 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would want to
 live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm.

 
 It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.


 I'm not sure it does based on this campus map.












Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the MUM 
campus consisting of modular homes 
 

 Maybe. Hey anyone who lives in FF, are those residences and for who(m)?
 

 
 

 On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... wrote :

 On 3/24/2014 8:54 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

 But it should resemble some configuration that a human being would want to 
live in. The compound reminded me of some sort of factory farm. 
 It looks very similar to student housing on the MUM campus.
 

 I'm not sure it does based on this campus map. 
 
 
 
 

 

 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-24 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 3/24/2014 9:21 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

Using Google Earth, It looks like there is some student housing on the 
MUM campus consisting of modular homes


Maybe. Hey anyone who lives in FF, are those residences and for who(m)?


Since they are on the MUM campus I am assuming that somebody is living 
in them, probably students, but it could be the adjunct faculty as well. 
Whoever is living in them, they are modular homes and lots of them.


[FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread Michael Jackson
The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1


Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread Share Long
I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it.





On Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:53 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1



Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Share Long wrote:
I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the 
reporter for the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it.


It's not very unusual for students to be on a work-study program at a 
religious seminary. And, student housing isn't always up to the highest 
standards. If I was running things up there, I'd get the pundits some of 
those big expensive houses I see on Google Earth. How much does it cost 
to build a house like that in Vedic City? $250,000?


If I was in charge, I'd limit the pundit program to about a dozen 
pundits and place each pundit in each of the homes in Vedic City, 
sitting right in the middle of the middle of the house, right under the 
umbrella on the roof. When they weren't meditating or praying, I'd seed 
them on a bus in to town to MUM every school day. That's what I would do.


As for pay, he said the university has a similar model for its staff, 
who get room, board, benefits and a stipend, but forgo more money for 
the larger cause.


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound/ 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?gcheck=1nclick_check=1


Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread authfriend
I agree with you completely about this article, Share. It's very refreshing in 
contrast to so much of what we read. 

 Incidentally, the TMO is known for never admitting mistakes--but the 
administrators of the pandit program have clearly realized (and openly 
acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra away without 
telling the rest of the pandits and giving them a chance to say goodbye.
 

 

 I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it. 

   The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1


 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 I agree with you completely about this article, Share. It's very refreshing in 
contrast to so much of what we read. 

 Incidentally, the TMO is known for never admitting mistakes--but the 
administrators of the pandit program have clearly realized (and openly 
acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra away without 
telling the rest of the pandits and giving them a chance to say goodbye.
 

 Interesting to see the pictures. The place really does look like a compound of 
sorts. Surely, and this is simply aesthetics I'm talking about, the layout of 
this place could have been far, far more human friendly. How about a bush, a 
tree, a garden? How about not putting these dorms in rows that are positively 
numbing? How about creating an eating area that is not reminiscent of the 
bowels of some freighter at sea? When you look at the pictures of the other 
extravagant buildings at MUM it pretty much blows my mind. It doesn't take a 
lot more money to make something look interesting and less institutional. It 
takes imagination and someone to give a damn.
 

 I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it. 

   The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1


 


 
















Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread Michael Jackson
I thought the eating area was like a ship too - I bet the alignment of the huts 
is vastu ved deal but they sure look like something out of the old WWII stalags

On Mon, 3/24/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 24, 2014, 12:51 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...
 wrote :
 
 I agree with you completely about
 this article, Share. It's very refreshing in contrast to
 so much of what we read.
 Incidentally, the TMO is known for
 never admitting mistakes--but the administrators of the
 pandit program have clearly realized (and openly
 acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra
 away without telling the rest of the pandits and giving them
 a chance to say goodbye.
 Interesting to see the pictures. The
 place really does look like a compound of sorts. Surely, and
 this is simply aesthetics I'm talking about, the layout
 of this place could have been far, far more human friendly.
 How about a bush, a tree, a garden? How about not putting
 these dorms in rows that are positively numbing? How about
 creating an eating area that is not reminiscent of the
 bowels of some freighter at sea? When you look at the
 pictures of the other extravagant buildings at MUM it pretty
 much blows my mind. It doesn't take a lot more money to
 make something look interesting and less institutional. It
 takes imagination and someone to give a
 damn.
 I
 think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful
 to the reporter for the compassion, fairness and
 reasonableness contained in it.
  The
 Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

2014-03-23 Thread awoelflebater

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :

 I thought the eating area was like a ship too - I bet the alignment of the 
huts is vastu ved deal but they sure look like something out of the old WWII 
stalags
 

 The chanting rooms seemed nice enough but c'mon, I really think a greater care 
should have been made to ensure the rest of the environment was livable. It 
makes me crazy to think these guys were confined to these types of barracks 
when at least in India you have the richness of color and all of the other 
myriad sensory input that is characteristic of a hot climate where the smells 
of people, pavement, animals and food mingle in a way to let you know you are 
in the land of the living. I can't think of a place that is more out of keeping 
with what they must be used to environmentally/aesthetically.