[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can > > > feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is > > > confused because he doesn't really understand what he > > > is attempting to explain. > > > > Actually, I think he *does* understand what > > he's attempting to explain... > > > > > He has an "intuitive" grasp > > > of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his > > > speech. > > > > ...but his understanding is as integrated > > with his speech as it's ever going to get. > > > > Part of the problem is his inability to > > put words together coherently, especially > > when he's talking about something complex > > (he does poorly enough even when he's talking > > about something simple). > > > > The other part of the problem here is that he's > > talking *to* somebody who he assumes doesn't > > have a clue and wouldn't understand anything > > but a simplistic explanation anyway--and it > > ends up as utter mush. You have to be able to > > put words together *well* before you can give > > a clear simplistic explanation. > > > > This may be. However, Bush, in private, is said to be very charming > and articulate. He may be simply be suffering from a form of stage > fright. In public, he has a position to defend that is largely indefensible as 'The Voice of The People'. So...he...LIES and DECEIVES. ...'is said to be very charming and articulate'...I have read the same thing of him in private, that he never misses a beat, because he can openly bribe and threaten in private, all in the nicest possible way of course. But in public he constantly trips over his words because he is LYING and he knows it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All in all one of those things that make you cringe! "Operator, give me the number for 911!" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can > > feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is > > confused because he doesn't really understand what he > > is attempting to explain. > > Actually, I think he *does* understand what > he's attempting to explain... > > > He has an "intuitive" grasp > > of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his > > speech. > > ...but his understanding is as integrated > with his speech as it's ever going to get. > > Part of the problem is his inability to > put words together coherently, especially > when he's talking about something complex > (he does poorly enough even when he's talking > about something simple). > > The other part of the problem here is that he's > talking *to* somebody who he assumes doesn't > have a clue and wouldn't understand anything > but a simplistic explanation anyway--and it > ends up as utter mush. You have to be able to > put words together *well* before you can give > a clear simplistic explanation. > This may be. However, Bush, in private, is said to be very charming and articulate. He may be simply be suffering from a form of stage fright. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
The understatement of the century! Sal On Jun 24, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: He's not an intellectual and not used to thinking about or explaining complex subjects.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All in all one of those things that make you cringe! You bet. And on top of that his whiney, petulant voice... I can't listen to him any more even when he's reading from a script. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
All in all one of those things that make you cringe!authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can> feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is> confused because he doesn't really understand what he> is attempting to explain.Actually, I think he *does* understand whathe's attempting to explain...> He has an "intuitive" grasp> of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his> speechbut his understanding is as integratedwith his speech as it's ever going to get.Part of the problem is his inability toput words together coherently, especiallywhen he's talking about something complex(he does poorly enough even when he's talkingabout something simple).The other part of the problem here is that he'stalking *to* somebody who he assumes doesn'thave a clue and wouldn't understand anythingbut a simplistic explanation anyway--and itends up as utter mush. You have to be able toput words together *well* before you can givea clear simplistic explanation.> > > > Look, there's a series of things that cause the > > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated> > > > based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to> > > > the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based> > > > upon inflation, supposed to wage increases.FWIW, the last line above has a mistranscription;it should be "as opposed to," not "supposed to."He uses "as opposed to" in the previous sentencein the same context; first he explains how benefitsare calculated now, then he describes the proposedchange in how benefits are calculated, using thesame phrasing.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can > feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is > confused because he doesn't really understand what he > is attempting to explain. Actually, I think he *does* understand what he's attempting to explain... > He has an "intuitive" grasp > of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his > speech. ...but his understanding is as integrated with his speech as it's ever going to get. Part of the problem is his inability to put words together coherently, especially when he's talking about something complex (he does poorly enough even when he's talking about something simple). The other part of the problem here is that he's talking *to* somebody who he assumes doesn't have a clue and wouldn't understand anything but a simplistic explanation anyway--and it ends up as utter mush. You have to be able to put words together *well* before you can give a clear simplistic explanation. > > > > Look, there's a series of things that cause the > > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > > > > based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to > > > > the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > > > > upon inflation, supposed to wage increases. FWIW, the last line above has a mistranscription; it should be "as opposed to," not "supposed to." He uses "as opposed to" in the previous sentence in the same context; first he explains how benefits are calculated now, then he describes the proposed change in how benefits are calculated, using the same phrasing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
Hebephrenia is more extreme than this quote. You can feel an attempt to explain in his speech. It is confused because he doesn't really understand what he is attempting to explain. He has an "intuitive" grasp of it, but it is not yet integrated enough with his speech. This happens often with people and is why our speech is peppered with "you know" and "uhms" and "ahs". Unfortunately he happnes to be president and open to public scrutiny. He's not an intellectual and not used to thinking about or explaining complex subjects. He should do what Regan did and have others explain the nuts and bolts of complex economic policies. Being an over-educated intellectual, he drives me nuts! --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would this qualify as hebephrenia certainly is word > salad > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social > Security > > > Reform Proposal: > > > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. > How is > > > it the new plan is > > > going to fix the problem? > > > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on > the > > > table begins to > > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > > benefits are calculated, > > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > > benefits rise based upon > > > wage increases or price increases. There's a > series > > > of parts of the > > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > > couple that, those > > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- > changing > > > those with personal > > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been > promised > > > more likely to be > > > -- or closer delivered to that has been > promised. > > > Does that make any sense to you? > > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > > things that cause the > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > based > > > upon the increase of > > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. > Some > > > have suggested that > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > upon > > > inflation, supposed > > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would > help > > > solve the red if > > > that were put into effect. In other words, how > fast > > > benefits grow, how > > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if > that > > > growth is > > > affected, it will help on the red." > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation > on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports > > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy > Football > > http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe Hebephrenic
Would this qualify as hebephrenia certainly is word salad --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security > > Reform Proposal: > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is > > it the new plan is > > going to fix the problem? > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the > > table begins to > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > benefits are calculated, > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > benefits rise based upon > > wage increases or price increases. There's a series > > of parts of the > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > couple that, those > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing > > those with personal > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised > > more likely to be > > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > > Does that make any sense to you? > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > things that cause the > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based > > upon the increase of > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some > > have suggested that > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon > > inflation, supposed > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help > > solve the red if > > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast > > benefits grow, how > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > > growth is > > affected, it will help on the red." > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > You mean "thing in his ear." Teleprompters are > > passe, especially > > during a debate (e.g. "let > > > me finish, let me finish", in the middle of a > > sentence during the > > debate where no-one had > > > interrupted him). > > > > http://isbushwired.com/ > > He's channeling obviously > Good pun! Here's a link to a Salon article, with photo analysis by a fellow at NASA that does this for a living, about Bush's successful attempt at bypassing the restriction on electronic communications by the candidates during the debates: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/29/bulge/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
> --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Alright! I am outing this "anonymousff"! Welcome, > > Byron Katie! :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you know that to be true? Do you know that to be > absolutely true? ;-) LOL What would I be without that thought? Anonymousff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is the President of the most powerful > nation on > > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, > he > > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. > > Alright! I am outing this "anonymousff"! Welcome, > Byron Katie! :-) :-) Do you know that to be true? Do you know that to be absolutely true? ;-) > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You mean "thing in his ear." Teleprompters are > passe, especially > during a debate (e.g. "let > > me finish, let me finish", in the middle of a > sentence during the > debate where no-one had > > interrupted him). > > http://isbushwired.com/ He's channeling obviously > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You mean "thing in his ear." Teleprompters are passe, especially during a debate (e.g. "let > me finish, let me finish", in the middle of a sentence during the debate where no-one had > interrupted him). http://isbushwired.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/23/05 9:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. > > I don't even think he thinks he knows half of the time. He just does what > the smart guys tell him and hopes the teleprompter doesn't break. You mean "thing in his ear." Teleprompters are passe, especially during a debate (e.g. "let me finish, let me finish", in the middle of a sentence during the debate where no-one had interrupted him). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. Alright! I am outing this "anonymousff"! Welcome, Byron Katie! :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." Quo usque tandem abutere, Catty Leena, patientia nostra? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social > Security > > > Reform Proposal: > > > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. > How is > > > it the new plan is > > > going to fix the problem? > > > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on > the > > > table begins to > > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > > benefits are calculated, > > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > > benefits rise based upon > > > wage increases or price increases. There's a > series > > > of parts of the > > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > > couple that, those > > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- > changing > > > those with personal > > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been > promised > > > more likely to be > > > -- or closer delivered to that has been > promised. > > > Does that make any sense to you? > > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > > things that cause the > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > based > > > upon the increase of > > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. > Some > > > have suggested that > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > upon > > > inflation, supposed > > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would > help > > > solve the red if > > > that were put into effect. In other words, how > fast > > > benefits grow, how > > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if > that > > > growth is > > > affected, it will help on the red." > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation > on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. Oh, you get me so mad! Well, you're a stupid head, so there! And I bet you smell like poop too! > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security > > Reform Proposal: > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is > > it the new plan is > > going to fix the problem? > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the > > table begins to > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > benefits are calculated, > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > benefits rise based upon > > wage increases or price increases. There's a series > > of parts of the > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > couple that, those > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing > > those with personal > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised > > more likely to be > > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > > Does that make any sense to you? > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > things that cause the > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based > > upon the increase of > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some > > have suggested that > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon > > inflation, supposed > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help > > solve the red if > > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast > > benefits grow, how > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > > growth is > > affected, it will help on the red." > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. um, yeah. Look in the mirror. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
Doonsebury has a cartoon that quotes the whole thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
Ironic that Mayor Wynne and Prez Bush appeared here on FFLife in the same hour, both full of shit to the ears. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal:> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
on 6/23/05 6:41 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > crazy or on drugs, or both...end of story. Or brain damaged due to years of drugs and heavy drinking, on top of not being too smart to begin with. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." crazy or on drugs, or both...end of story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
