[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Using the 'television channel' instead. > > Bloomberg Television? ha-ha! Good one! actually I meant that at times the momentum for spritual purification gets so powerful within me that I consciously take actions to slow it down, so I can integrate the expansion of consciousness better. Been doing it my whole meditating 'career'... Anyway that's what I meant when I said I put away my altar for awhile. And the television channel was a reference to absent the physical objects of my altar, they are in thought instead. (Not as your question implies, that I swing abruptly from a spritual orientation to a material one, and then back again...) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
> Paul, > I didn't doubt your transcript. I may have a copy of that tape. > > JohnY > PS I also have some Guru Dev on tape, but I think that you have posted > all that I have. John, I didn't think you doubted the transcript, it was a concern raised on another group that stimulated the decision to post the mp3. It is conceivable you have a copy of the tape although, to the best of my knowledge, few have heard this recording. If you have Guru Dev on tape please let me have anything that might conceivably be additional to the recordings I already have on his webpage. Better to be safe than sorry - You might have a missing link! Paul To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3 > > > > Paul, > > If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it > > from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in > > the source that you made the mp3 file from ? > > > > Thanks for posting that clip > > > > JohnY > > John, In a previous postings I believe you mentioned that you have a > copy (of the first edition) of my biography of MMY, there are a few > snatches of this recordings quoted there. > Re: edits. The mp3 is faithful to the 'master' tape with no edits. > I posted the mp3 in order to allay any doubts about the contents of > the transcript I wrote. I'm glad you enjoyed hearing it - it is now > about thirty-five years old. > Jay Gurudev > Paul Paul, I didn't doubt your transcript. I may have a copy of that tape. JohnY PS I also have some Guru Dev on tape, but I think that you have posted all that I have. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Using the 'television channel' instead. Bloomberg Television? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3 > > Paul, > If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it > from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in > the source that you made the mp3 file from ? > > Thanks for posting that clip > > JohnY John, In a previous postings I believe you mentioned that you have a copy (of the first edition) of my biography of MMY, there are a few snatches of this recordings quoted there. Re: edits. The mp3 is faithful to the 'master' tape with no edits. I posted the mp3 in order to allay any doubts about the contents of the transcript I wrote. I'm glad you enjoyed hearing it - it is now about thirty-five years old. Jay Gurudev Paul To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3 Paul, If memory is not failing, I believe I've heard this before. Is it from the audio tape sets in the blue covers? Where all the edits in the source that you made the mp3 file from ? Thanks for posting that clip JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev.Marek---And/or you could do a puja to Shiva. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
http://www.paulmason.info/x/MMYonGD.mp3 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes. Set up some place in your home where you meditate and fill it > with the pictures of those saints and heroes in your life who > inspire you. Surround yourself with the "arrows" in your life that > point you towards who you really are. So then, everywhere you look, > there's a great being who's directly pointing at your heart. this is a much more powerful technique than I first realized. I have done this from time to time, yet it has overwhelmed me also, sometimes simultaneously creating a presence of the saints, and a gulf between them (the saints) and me that is unresolvable. Very, very powerful! I am currently in a phase where I have taken down my makeshift altar. Will probably put it up again sometime. Using the 'television channel' instead. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: **SNIP** > Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him. > Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single > spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from > and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of creation and > bow to it. Imagine God and bow to Him/Her. No close > your eyes and let go. Do nothing. Rest in the deepest > gratitude and authentic respect and just be present. > Rest in absolute nothingness.it will swallow > "you". > **END** Yes. Set up some place in your home where you meditate and fill it with the pictures of those saints and heroes in your life who inspire you. Surround yourself with the "arrows" in your life that point you towards who you really are. So then, everywhere you look, there's a great being who's directly pointing at your heart. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- marekreavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Comment below: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't > > > it have > > > been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been > his disciple. But I > > > think, with respect to the material you have > posted, it would be > > even > > > greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, > one's own citta, the > > > citta itself from which flows all that can ever > flow. > > > > > > > actually if you want to feel a similar experience > of being close to > > Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about > him or check out > his > > pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar > vibration to Guru Dev. > Both > > are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva > energy. Peter said it > > better than I can. Then you won't have to long for > a fantasy anymore. > > **END** > > And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev. > > Marek Before you meditate imagine Guru Dev and bow to him. Imagine MMY and bow to him. Imagine every single spiritual teacher that you have learned anything from and bow to them. Imagine the entirity of creation and bow to it. Imagine God and bow to Him/Her. No close your eyes and let go. Do nothing. Rest in the deepest gratitude and authentic respect and just be present. Rest in absolute nothingness.it will swallow "you". > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "marekreavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev. > > Marek that sounds great! I never learned how, but it sounds really nice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't > > it have > > been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I > > think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be > even > > greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the > > citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow. > > > > actually if you want to feel a similar experience of being close to > Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about him or check out his > pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar vibration to Guru Dev. Both > are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva energy. Peter said it > better than I can. Then you won't have to long for a fantasy anymore. **END** And/Or, you could do puja to Guru Dev. Marek To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't > it have > been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I > think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be even > greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the > citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow. > actually if you want to feel a similar experience of being close to Guru Dev, look up Ramana Maharishi and read about him or check out his pic. Easy to find via Google. Very similar vibration to Guru Dev. Both are pure unmoving edifices of radiant Shiva energy. Peter said it better than I can. Then you won't have to long for a fantasy anymore. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY answers questions about Guru Dev
Said very well. Thanks. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In Message 1935 of 2016 at > [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MMY answers questions about Guru Dev. > > [...] > > ...And I was never interested who was given what mantra. I was > > interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]... > > [...] > > ... Out of that fullness I started to teach. [MMY pauses, slight > > audience laughter] At least by practice people could rise and raise > > themselves up. > > Thank you, Paul, for posting this. I read it a couple of days ago and > have been turning it over in my mind. At first, I felt some > irritation, a kind of "I knew it", Maharishi is only > interested in > himself! But I continued to reflect and began to consider that there > was something more to this. > > All the interest, dedication, commitment to others is a good thing, > of course. But without interest, dedication, commitment to one's > own > spiritual development (fully humanizing oneself before setting out to > help others), which I hope is what Maharishi is saying, nothing > really useful is going to be achieved. The more I thought about this > and other things Maharishi said over the years, things he said to me > personally and to others around him, the more I have felt a release > from the rather too obvious nuttiness of the TMO and a now paranoid > dependent old man who no longer is or can ever again be my teacher. > > "I was interested in myself" and "Out of that > fullness" seems to me > to be the key teaching, the summation of what Maharishi was doing all > those years: setting an example (never quite a good one with respect > to the cultural milieu I knew, but the best example he could come up > with, nonetheless). *Find what is right for you, penetrate it as > deeply as you possibly can and then, once you have determined it is > going to benefit you and, according to my cultural milieu, allow you > to benefit others, "go for it"*. > > I abandoned Maharishi and his organized loonies a long time ago; but > never quite saw through the mirage I had set up for myself about him > until I pondered this lovely piece of very interesting insight > or > was it my own insight I was pondering. I don't know. > > Thank you, again, Paul. If you have other talks in which Maharishi > talks about his time with Guru Dev, could you post them, or post a > link to them? We all, I suppose, have the fantasy: wouldn't > it have > been great to have met Guru Dev, to have been his disciple. But I > think, with respect to the material you have posted, it would be even > greater to be a disciple of that inner guru, one's own citta, the > citta itself from which flows all that can ever flow. > > G To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
