Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Sal Sunshine]

On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:47 PM, frosty.mage wrote:


Whine all you want, but Hillary ran an inept campaign and lost. Why
should such utter incompetence be rewarded with the nomination? It's
not like she was entitled to it. Hell, her botched campaign is reason
enough why she *shouldn't* be President. If she can't even run a
political campaign, why should she be allowed to run the country? She
started out as the front runner and threw it all away. Too bad. Get
over it.


Amen.

Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of authfriend
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 7:34 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> My father was an alcoholic so I have a pretty good idea how
> drunk people act. And when Biden came to FF I chatted with
> him face to face for quite a while, then watched him speak
> to the group. So I'm somewhat familiar with his personality.
> In this video, I think he's just been campaigning all day
> and is playing the good 'ole boy. Who knows, he may also
> have had a beer with dinner. But I don't think he's drunk.
> Is he rumored to be a drinker? Ever had any trouble with it?

First time I've ever heard this suggested.

I agree, Rick, I don't think he's drunk. He's just
in ebullience mode.

I don't like this about him. I noticed it when I heard him speak, too. He
gets so caught up in the energy of speaking to a group that he loses his
naturalness. This used to happen to me too sometimes when I taught TM. Much
more effective to remain centered and be yourself.

> Obama let McCain make a jackass out of him
> for not picking Hillary as VP 
> 
> Did she want the job?

I doubt it, myself. Whether she would have accepted
even if she didn't want it is a different question.

I was sort of hoping he would choose her. She's certainly qualified for the
job and it really would have united the party to a great extent. Judy and
"raunchydog" - how would you have reacted if Obama had chosen Hillary and
she had accepted? How would you feel about things now?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> Again, I'm talking about the "optics," how it looks to
> voters.
>
> Hillary would have been a superb choice politically,
> making it more likely Obama would be elected. And
> she'd have done an excellent job as vice president,
> vastly better than Palin, maybe not as good as Biden,
> but maybe better.
>
> Personally, I think he didn't want a running mate
> who would overshadow him and who had her own power
> base. He doesn't like competition.
And Hillary is more of a Republican than Barack. :D

BTW, your presidential candidate is interviewed in this documentary:
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

raunchydog wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> 
>>> authfriend wrote:
>>>   
 Disagree. I think the combination of Obama in
 the White House, Pelosi and Reid in Congress,
 and Dean and Brazile running the party machinery
 is potentially deadly.

   
 
>>> Why and in what way?
>>>   
>> I'm also curious to see the answer to that.
>>
>> 
> Why Oh Why is Barky bad for the Country? 
>  
> 1. Marxist ties: http://tinyurl.com/6y7ppy & http://tinyurl.com/2ww3se
> 2. Obama's friends:
> William Ayers: http://tinyurl.com/5rgfek http://tinyurl.com/6g7ew3
> http://tinyurl.com/6bo6p6 video: http://tinyurl.com/56apwj 
> Tony Rezko: http://tinyurl.com/64vrxt
> Hamas: http://tinyurl.com/6lds2x
> 3. Zbigniew Brzezinski: http://tinyurl.com/6yqfju
> 4. Obama's Black Liberation ideology: http://tinyurl.com/6oaz25 &
> http://tinyurl.com/2q8gzm
> 5. Obama's smear tactics,"Throw the rock and hide the hand":
> http://tinyurl.com/5uxtmb
Hehe, mudslinging truly is the sport of election years, isn't it.  Don't 
1 and 3 council each other out?  Number 2 has been pretty much debunked 
here.

"Let he who is sinless cast stones."

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of raunchydog
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 6:53 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

 

Ahhh! A fellow traveler from the kool-aid free zone of FF Life. 
Thanks. Biden will fall down drunk before he steps down. 
http://tinyurl.com/57rcud. 

Don't include the period at the end of the tiny URL in the link. If you do,
it doesn't work.

My father was an alcoholic so I have a pretty good idea how drunk people
act. And when Biden came to FF I chatted with him face to face for quite a
while, then watched him speak to the group. So I'm somewhat familiar with
his personality. In this video, I think he's just been campaigning all day
and is playing the good 'ole boy. Who knows, he may also have had a beer
with dinner. But I don't think he's drunk. Is he rumored to be a drinker?
Ever had any trouble with it?

Obama let McCain make a jackass out of him
for not picking Hillary as VP 

Did she want the job?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> authfriend wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 So how is voting for McCain going to solve anything?
 
 
>>> raunchydog doesn't seem to have said she's going to
>>> vote for McCain. Like Sal, you're assuming if a person
>>> isn't going to vote for Obama, they *must* be going to
>>> vote for McCain, but that's obviously not the case.
>>>   
>>>   
>> No, you're wrong.  Look again.  I didn't say that raunchydog
>> was going to vote for McCain.  I simply asked how voting for
>> him was going to solve anything.  The question doesn't assume
>> at all that raunchydog is voting for McCain.
>> 
>
> Then it was a non sequitur.
>   
No, it wasn't.
>   
>>>   It will be
>>>   
 just more of the insane as we've had the last eight years.
 
 
>>> Question is, will it be just as insane with Obama,
>>> only a different *type* of insane? If the folks in
>>> the DNC who unethically wangled his nomination stay
>>> in power in the Democratic Party, what will that
>>> mean for the country?
>>>   
>> Come'on now, the worst that the DNC could do would pale compared
>> to the Republicans and the Bush Crime Family have done in the last
>> eight years.
>> 
>
> Disagree. I think the combination of Obama in
> the White House, Pelosi and Reid in Congress,
> and Dean and Brazile running the party machinery
> is potentially deadly.
>
>   
Why and in what way?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> raunchydog wrote:
>> 
> 
>   
>>> The blatant thuggery of the Democratic Party cheated Hillary
>>> out of the nomination and the Obot's reply is, "Get over it."
>>> LOL. Democrats, the party of fairness and inclusion, didn't
>>> allow a fair election, and many are blissfully unaware they will
>>> pay dearly on election day. The DNC and Obama are to blame for
>>> lack of party unity, not Hillary. Newsflash for Obamabots: Obama
>>> let McCain make a jackass out of him for not picking Hillary as
>>> VP and set the stage for McCain show that he respects women more
>>> than Democrats. Bite it.
>>>   
>> So how is voting for McCain going to solve anything?
>> 
>
> raunchydog doesn't seem to have said she's going to
> vote for McCain. Like Sal, you're assuming if a person
> isn't going to vote for Obama, they *must* be going to
> vote for McCain, but that's obviously not the case.
>   
No, you're wrong.  Look again.  I didn't say that raunchydog was going 
to vote for McCain.  I simply asked how voting for him was going to 
solve anything.  The question doesn't assume at all that raunchydog is 
voting for McCain.
>   It will be
>   
>> just more of the insane as we've had the last eight years.
>> 
>
> Question is, will it be just as insane with Obama,
> only a different *type* of insane? If the folks in
> the DNC who unethically wangled his nomination stay
> in power in the Democratic Party, what will that
> mean for the country?
Come'on now, the worst that the DNC could do would pale compared to the 
Republicans and the Bush Crime Family have done in the last eight 
years.  And you would just get more of the last eight years with McCain.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

raunchydog wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>   
 raunchydog wrote:
 
> Did you see this? "Barack Obama can't help it if he's a magna 
>   
>> cum
>> 
> laude Harvard grad and you're a Wal-Mart shopper who resurfaces
> driveways with your brother-in-law. Americans are so 
>   
>> narcissistic that
>> 
> our candidates have to be just like us. That's why George Bush 
>   
>> is
>> 
> president. And that's where the McCain camp gets its campaign
> strategy: Paint Obama as cocky and arrogant and wait for 
>   
>> America to 
>> 
> vote him off, like the black guy in every reality show. A black
> president? Half of Pennsylvania isn't ready for black 
>   
>> quarterbacks.
>> 
> Forget Obama, they think Will Smith needs to be taken down a 
>   
>> peg.
>> 
> http://tinyurl.com/6h75l6";
>
> My Response:  Bill Clinton was smart AND the first "black" 
>   
>> president.
>> 
> He had an easy way of relating to common folk and never looked 
>   
>> down on
>> 
> them. For this the Clintons were considered "hillbilly white 
>   
>> trash" by
>> 
> the elite of Washington. Bill Maher's monologue insults the
> intelligence of voters who have low paying jobs and calls them 
>   
>> racist
>> 
> while his elite college educated audience, laughing 
>   
>> condescendingly,
>> 
> thinks he is hip and funny. As long as the elite left wing of 
>   
>> the
>> 
> Democratic party dismisses swing voters as dumbass racists 
>   
>> clinging to
>> 
> guns and religion, they help seal Obama's fate to lose the 
>   
>> election. 
>> 
> McCain doesn't have to paint Obama as cocky and arrogant.  He 
>   
>> can do
>> 
> that himself along with the likes of Bill Maher, an in the tank 
>   
>> media
>> 
> and his army of paid sexist blogger boyz who royally pissed me 
>   
>> off
>> 
> trashing Hillary at every opportunity. Excuse me for not 
>   
>> believing
>> 
> Obama is The One. I'm just a dumbass voter who wants respect 
>   
>> before
>> 
> you can get my vote. Chime in and let the fur fly.
>   
 It's the Republicans who think you're dumb.  Otherwise why would 
 
>> the
>> 
>>> put 
>>>   
 up candidates that the dumbasses would identify with?  You'll 
 
>> vote for 
>> 
 them and they'll steal your money as they have done the last eight
 
>>> years.
>>>   
 If you were in school and needed some help with your math 
 
>> assignments 
>> 
 would you ask someone who is a C student or someone who is an A 
 student?  If you were looking for a good lawyer would you choose 
 
>> one
>> 
>>> who 
>>>   
 barely passed the law exam or someone who not only passed the law 
 
>> exam 
>> 
 but also teaches law courses at a college?  Would you choose a 
 
>> doctor 
>> 
 who barely made it through medical school only with influential 
 
>> help 
>> 
 from his dad who was also a doctor and an alumni contributor to 
 
>> the 
>> 
 college or someone who flew through medical school with flying 
 
>> colors 
>> 
 and was noted for their research?

 So if you were choosing a world leader who  is going to meet with 
 
>> other 
>> 
 world leaders would you choose someone who barely understands 
 
>> global 
>> 
 issues and can't think on their feet or someone who not only
 
>>> understands 
>>>   
 those issues but also is able to make clear decisions and 
 
>> communicate 
>> 
 them well with other intelligent world leaders?

 If you want the US to become a third world country then choose 
 
>> the kind 
>> 
 of leader who will trash it into one.  I, for one, don't want 
 
>> that, 
>> 
 however it may be too late.

 And also ask yourself are you better off than you were eight 
 
>> years ago?
>> 
>>> Am I better off? How Reaganesque of you. No just pissed off at the
>>> hubris of the elite left wing of the Democratic party who will doom
>>> Obama's campaign just as the Stevensonians, 
>>>   
>> http://tinyurl.com/6437pk
>> 
>>> McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry torpedoed any chance of
>>> Democratic rule. What a bunch of losers. Bill 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher Disrespects Voters

[Bhairitu]

raunchydog wrote:
> Am I better off? How Reaganesque of you. No just pissed off at the
> hubris of the elite left wing of the Democratic party who will doom
> Obama's campaign just as the Stevensonians, http://tinyurl.com/6437pk
> McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry torpedoed any chance of
> Democratic rule. What a bunch of losers. Bill Clinton knew how to
> relate to the common folk, the swing voters, the independents all of
> whom Obama needs to win an election and he hasn't lifted one finger
> except the middle one to court them. The Democrats have shot
> themselves in the foot once again. Obama should be ahead in the polls
> by 15 points and by now but a moose hunting, gun toting GIRL has him
> quaking in his shoes. Head for the Hills, Barky! Oh yeah, that's right
> he IS heading for the Hills...Hillary that is. If Obama wanted Hillary
> to carry his sorry ass over the finish line, why didn't all the
> blogger boys glorify her candidacy instead of that whining wimp they
> want in the White House?  Now that everyone thinks it a good idea for
> Hillary to fight his battles, are they admitting Hillary was the
> better candidate? After all the vile sexist crap the blogs dumped on
> her at DKos Hillary should just give them all the middle finger salute
> like Obama did to her. Besides, Biden, if he's not too loaded, should
> be doing Obama's dirty work on Palin, VP to VP, not Hillary.
Better yet, the Dems could have totally ignored the Reps show and 
continued on as if it didn't happen rather than get wrapped around it.  
That really would have flummoxed the Reps.

However we'll see what happens in a week or two as the shine wears off 
the Rep's week.  I still think Obama will take the election the Reps 
didn't want to win it anyway and are just putting on a show.

Of course we have BushCo taking over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac today.  
So much for Reps being against big government and look for the bill for 
it in your mail.