Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-19 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/19/2011 06:42 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 On 07/18/2011 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixonmdixon.6569@   wrote:
 Haven't you guys ever heard of AC?
 Didn't you read the last two paragaphs?

 And BTW, there are many poor/elderly people who can't
 afford AC. Some can't even afford *fans*; local
 governments often have programs to distribute free fans
 to those who don't own one.
 The mid-west normally has heat waves during the summer.  Mike was
 kidding.  Probably most homes there do have some form of AC.
 FWIW:

 Persistent high temperatures were particularly dangerous
 to residents not accustomed to the combination of heat
 and humidityAir-conditioning may be the rule in
 southern states, but many homes in the northern Plains
 and Midwest do not have it.

 http://news.yahoo.com/heat-wave-bakes-central-united-states-150949129.html

 http://tinyurl.com/3ummr5c

And about every summer I read of heat waves in the midwest.  Are you 
sure the author knows what they are talking about? Like I said they may 
not have AC (usually a reference to refrigerated air conditioning).   I 
grew up in eastern Washington which is part of the great desert.  
Summer could get hot.  As a kid we had a swamp cooler which is water 
cooled air conditioner.  Those are still sold too.  So they may have 
that or fans.

And nobody in the Fairfield area on FFL disputed my claim.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
Heat index is 110 here at the moment, and climbing.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/18/2011 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixonmdixon.6569@...  wrote:
 Haven't you guys ever heard of AC?
 Didn't you read the last two paragaphs?

 And BTW, there are many poor/elderly people who can't
 afford AC. Some can't even afford *fans*; local
 governments often have programs to distribute free fans
 to those who don't own one.


The mid-west normally has heat waves during the summer.  Mike was 
kidding.  Probably most homes there do have some form of AC.

OTOH, the Jet Stream has shifted further north and they may be getting 
the weather we usually get in the Bay Area.  Right now it's in the 70s 
here and will probably top out in the mid-80s today.  For me that is not 
even enough to turn on ceiling fans.  So far this summer I have run my 
AC only about 3 times.  The house is prepped for central air but it 
would have cost me $5000 due to a needed electrical upgrade to have it 
installed.  So I passed.  And a new roof helped.

The previous owner spared no money on improvements and if it was hot 
enough to have central air she would have.  The day of the open house I 
asked her about that and she told me there just weren't that many hot 
days to justify it.  Currently I'm running probably a 26 year old GE 
through the wall in the living room.  I wanted to replace it with a new 
Fedders with a remote.  For the computer room I got a Soleus portable 
which keeps the room cool on hot days.

I live inland from the Bay and San Francisco folks are usually rejoicing 
when we have heat waves because that's mean shirt sleeve weather there 
while we inland folks are sweltering.  Sometimes we want to reach into 
the radio and strangle the weather reporter who is so gleeful about the 
heat because they are in SF. :-D





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:58 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.


Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?

The macro/micro trend distinction. 

Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
climatologists.  



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

2011-07-18 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning

 

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Excessive Heat Warning
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Heat index is 115 now, but of course global warming is a hoax.
 
 
 Does that mean big snowstorms this Winter will disprove it?
 
 The macro/micro trend distinction. 
 
 Nope. They'll further prove it. The ones last winter did, according to
 climatologists.

I thought their point was that it could be consistent with the theory in
response to idiots on Fox news who claimed it proved the opposite. But these
small trends in weather are not the proof on either end. 

The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is
what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and
climate is how the atmosphere behaves over relatively long periods of
time. (taken from some sciency looking site.)

I realize that I may be preaching to the choir here, and you may know much
more about the science supporting climate change than I do. But I believe
this distinction is important because weather variations don't prove or
disprove of climate change. 

I read an article a while back stating that climatologists are agreeing more
and more that all the weird weather we've been having is indeed linked to
global warming. Here's a good link:
http://energy.nationaljournal.com/2011/07/extreme-weather-and-climate-ch.php