Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  I believe Kessler says her behavior changes due to the people she's around.
 

 Well, of course he'd say that. He has to come up with *some* reason for the 
discrepancies between what people who work closely with her say and what the 
former Secret Service say.
 

 Cameras on and around the public or her peers and she's sweet as pie.
 

 Oh, really? You just got done saying she's incapable of being likeable.
 

 Put her among *peons* who she can fire or have disciplined and she's a bitch. 
A power hungry, frustrated bitch. I don't mean to offend female dogs.
 

 You don't think she can fire or discipline her campaign staff?
 

 You're getting terribly tangled up in all the various ugly smears you're 
trying to keep going that conflict with one another.
 

 I have to laugh at your gullibility! What policy and what legislation? Does 
she have any major piece of legislation that she is responsible for?

 

 I referred to "senators who worked closely with her on policy and 
legislation." I made no claims about her responsibility for major pieces of 
legislation.
 

 But here's her legislative record:
 

 https://www.congress.gov/member/hillary-clinton/C001041 
https://www.congress.gov/member/hillary-clinton/C001041
 

 Opsie...
 
As she said, she wanted to be a workhorse, not a show horse.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   I have to laugh at the quality of the judgment and critical thinking ability 
of those who would put more trust in a former low-ranking Secret Service agent 
who's been denounced by his colleagues as not having been any closer to Hillary 
than seeing her walk past in the White House hallway (and is making a mint out 
of claiming otherwise), than in the Republican (and Democratic) senators who 
worked closely with her on policy and legislation.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 















 















 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Another double standard. Donald is a prick to everyone he meets, unless he 
thinks he is getting more than he puts into it. He talks about shooting Hillary 
and punching protesters in the face, and generally sounds like an arrogant, 
entitled asshole. He also will smile to your face, while stealing your goods 
and services. A two faced clown and hypocrite. Or he gets played big time, by 
someone like Putin.

Let's leave the kids at home this election, especially Trump. You accuse 
Clinton of this and that, all BS, and she is an adult to boot. Trump is a 
bully, a chump, and a man-child. Why you see his intellectual insecurity, and 
shitty manners as an improvement over Clinton, I'll never know.
 

 This is the question of the Century for me: how any living soul can not see 
Trump for what he really is and how he is deemed more 'trustworthy' than 
Clinton is beyond my comprehension. Hillary could be Jack the Ripper or Bernard 
Madoff and still be more trustworthy than Trump.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  I believe Kessler says her behavior changes due to the people she's around. 
Cameras on and around the public or her peers and she's sweet as pie. Put her 
among *peons* who she can fire or have disciplined and she's a bitch. A power 
hungry, frustrated bitch. I don't mean to offend female dogs.
 
 I have to laugh at your gullibility! What policy and what legislation? Does 
she have any major piece of legislation that she is responsible for?


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   I have to laugh at the quality of the judgment and critical thinking ability 
of those who would put more trust in a former low-ranking Secret Service agent 
who's been denounced by his colleagues as not having been any closer to Hillary 
than seeing her walk past in the White House hallway (and is making a mint out 
of claiming otherwise), than in the Republican (and Democratic) senators who 
worked closely with her on policy and legislation.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 















 















 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has experience and she is really smart.
 
Has selective memory as well. Comes in handy when you don't want to purger 
yourself.

 

 Your spelling of "purger" was inadvertently brilliant.
 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 

 Funny, that. I don't think "likable" relates to anything. While I despise 
Trump it is not his personality that is of importance. Hillary is neither 
likable or unlikable. She is simply the most qualified and someone who has 
served the country for decades. She also, for some unknown reason, wants the 
job. I think she is amazingly strong and that is one small factor for why I 
will vote for her.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Another double standard. Donald is a prick to everyone he meets, unless he 
thinks he is getting more than he puts into it. He talks about shooting Hillary 
and punching protesters in the face, and generally sounds like an arrogant, 
entitled asshole. He also will smile to your face, while stealing your goods 
and services. A two faced clown and hypocrite. Or he gets played big time, by 
someone like Putin.

Let's leave the kids at home this election, especially Trump. You accuse 
Clinton of this and that, all BS, and she is an adult to boot. Trump is a 
bully, a chump, and a man-child. Why you see his intellectual insecurity, and 
shitty manners as an improvement over Clinton, I'll never know.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  I believe Kessler says her behavior changes due to the people she's around. 
Cameras on and around the public or her peers and she's sweet as pie. Put her 
among *peons* who she can fire or have disciplined and she's a bitch. A power 
hungry, frustrated bitch. I don't mean to offend female dogs.
 
 I have to laugh at your gullibility! What policy and what legislation? Does 
she have any major piece of legislation that she is responsible for?


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   I have to laugh at the quality of the judgment and critical thinking ability 
of those who would put more trust in a former low-ranking Secret Service agent 
who's been denounced by his colleagues as not having been any closer to Hillary 
than seeing her walk past in the White House hallway (and is making a mint out 
of claiming otherwise), than in the Republican (and Democratic) senators who 
worked closely with her on policy and legislation.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 















 















 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 I believe Kessler says her behavior changes due to the people she's around. 
Cameras on and around the public or her peers and she's sweet as pie. Put her 
among *peons* who she can fire or have disciplined and she's a bitch. A power 
hungry, frustrated bitch. I don't mean to offend female dogs.
I have to laugh at your gullibility! What policy and what legislation? Does she 
have any major piece of legislation that she is responsible for?

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
   
    I have to laugh at the quality of the judgment and critical thinking 
ability of those who would put more trust in a former low-ranking Secret 
Service agent who's been denounced by his colleagues as not having been any 
closer to Hillary than seeing her walk past in the White House hallway (and is 
making a mint out of claiming otherwise), than in the Republican (and 
Democratic) senators who worked closely with her on policy and legislation.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 
that’s if she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence 
and experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why 
anyone would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.
Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.
Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
And Byrne doesn't need job security, since he is a *former* agent. But 
according to the high-ranking former agents (who don't need job security 
either) who have denounced him, he wasn't in a position to see what he reported 
in the book; his rank wasn't high enough. From the Politico article:
Of course Byrne doesn't need job security, he's retired! But being called on by 
other SS agents to *debunk* him would be job security for them.Byrn was 
frequently stationed out side and down the hall from the Oval office, as well 
as in front of the Oval Office. I think he was in a much better place to 
observe than you are.The Arkansas state troopers? You have to be kidding. Those 
stories have been debunked. The troopers were paid by right-wingers to make up 
and pass on gossipy tales about the Clintons.You've got proof?
  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
   
    Corrupt because Byrne, at least, said things that weren't true:
Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book 
|  
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 |   Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-al...  Former 
agents blasted writer Gary Byrne for having "underlying motives."|  
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|  View on www.politico.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
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The closest contact that Byrne could have had, according to Gilhooly and 
others, is seeing the president or the first lady pass in the hallway — far 
from the intimate access he would have needed to catch Bill Clinton in the act 
or see Hillary Clinton fly into the cursing rages he now writes have convinced 
him that she doesn’t have the “integrity and temperament” to be president.

Oh, and the Clintons have never had anybody "bumped off."
No, declaring victory doesn't make me victorious. What makes me victorious is 
exposing the parrot vomit right-wingers enjoy spewing for what it is.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in 
public,Hillary smiles and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the 
cameras are gone, her angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become 
evident". He added: "Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma 
Gandhi." He said she is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, 
never said *thank you* .He goes on and on.BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the 
Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. It was a few high ranking members 
that denied his book, much of which he got was  from other agents.I would think 
telling all on the Clintons would not be good for job security. Might be 
difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent though. Repudiating those that 
do *tell all* would be job security.Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make 
you victorious.
  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop infection? 
The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Corrupt because Byrne, at least, said things that weren't true: 

 Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 
 
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 
 Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-al... 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 Former agents blasted writer Gary Byrne for having "underlying motives."


 
 View on www.politico.com 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 The Arkansas state troopers? You have to be kidding. Those stories have been 
debunked. The troopers were paid by right-wingers to make up and pass on 
gossipy tales about the Clintons.
 

 And Byrne doesn't need job security, since he is a *former* agent. But 
according to the high-ranking former agents (who don't need job security 
either) who have denounced him, he wasn't in a position to see what he reported 
in the book; his rank wasn't high enough. From the Politico article:
 

 The closest contact that Byrne could have had, according to Gilhooly and 
others, is seeing the president or the first lady pass in the hallway — far 
from the intimate access he would have needed to catch Bill Clinton in the act 
or see Hillary Clinton fly into the cursing rages he now writes have convinced 
him that she doesn’t have the “integrity and temperament” to be president.

 

 Oh, and the Clintons have never had anybody "bumped off."
 

 No, declaring victory doesn't make me victorious. What makes me victorious is 
exposing the parrot vomit right-wingers enjoy spewing for what it is.
 

 This is what I find so interesting (read disgusted) is how so many simply read 
one thing and they jump wholeheartedly on the bandwagon repeating the 
falsehoods everywhere they go. It's like what I see on FB all the time - 
someone posts a link to an article and they're all enraged and indignant and 
you get 20 people jumping on the outrage wagon and then I come along and debunk 
it by simply looking into it a little further and -voila! I either get blocked 
or they acknowledge their lazy-ass approach to believing everything they read. 
 

 I tend to find Trump supporters are more likely to fall into the above 
category as you watch them, open-mouthed and believing, as their great 'leader' 
yells lie after lie from his pulpit. Here is a funny clip, although most likely 
parody:
 The Daily Show - Videos | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos 
 
 https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos 
 
 The Daily Show - Videos | Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos The Daily Show. 5,883,757 likes · 
2,463,497 talking about this · 5,026 were here. Weeknights at 11/10c and on the 
Comedy Central App Get free ...
 
 
 
 View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 


 

 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/05/the_daily_show_finally_reveals_the_truth_about_those_insane_correspondent_interviews/
 
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/05/the_daily_show_finally_reveals_the_truth_about_those_insane_correspondent_interviews/

 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
 
 No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.
 From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in public,Hillary smiles 
and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the cameras are gone, her 
angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become evident". He added: 
"Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi." He said she 
is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, never said *thank you* 
.He goes on and on.
 BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. 
It was a few high ranking members that denied his book, much of which he got 
was  from other agents.I would think telling all on the Clintons would not be 
good for job security. Might be difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent 
though. Repudiating those that do *tell all* would be job security.
 Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make you victorious.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   
 

 You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
 

 You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop 
infection? The regurgitated materia

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have to laugh at the quality of the judgment and critical thinking ability of 
those who would put more trust in a former low-ranking Secret Service agent 
who's been denounced by his colleagues as not having been any closer to Hillary 
than seeing her walk past in the White House hallway (and is making a mint out 
of claiming otherwise), than in the Republican (and Democratic) senators who 
worked closely with her on policy and legislation. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 















 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
 She has experience and she is really smart.
Has selective memory as well. Comes in handy when you don't want to purger 
yourself.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
Funny, that. I don't think "likable" relates to anything. While I despise Trump 
it is not his personality that is of importance. Hillary is neither likable or 
unlikable. She is simply the most qualified and someone who has served the 
country for decades. She also, for some unknown reason, wants the job. I think 
she is amazingly strong and that is one small factor for why I will vote for 
her.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 
that’s if she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence 
and experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why 
anyone would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.
Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.
Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Corrupt because Byrne, at least, said things that weren't true: 

 Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 
 
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 
 
 Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-al... 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 Former agents blasted writer Gary Byrne for having "underlying motives."
 
 
 
 View on www.politico.com 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-bill-clinton-secret-service-224578
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 The Arkansas state troopers? You have to be kidding. Those stories have been 
debunked. The troopers were paid by right-wingers to make up and pass on 
gossipy tales about the Clintons.
 

 And Byrne doesn't need job security, since he is a *former* agent. But 
according to the high-ranking former agents (who don't need job security 
either) who have denounced him, he wasn't in a position to see what he reported 
in the book; his rank wasn't high enough. From the Politico article:
 

 The closest contact that Byrne could have had, according to Gilhooly and 
others, is seeing the president or the first lady pass in the hallway — far 
from the intimate access he would have needed to catch Bill Clinton in the act 
or see Hillary Clinton fly into the cursing rages he now writes have convinced 
him that she doesn’t have the “integrity and temperament” to be president.

 

 Oh, and the Clintons have never had anybody "bumped off."
 

 No, declaring victory doesn't make me victorious. What makes me victorious is 
exposing the parrot vomit right-wingers enjoy spewing for what it is.
 

 

 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
 
 No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.
 From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in public,Hillary smiles 
and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the cameras are gone, her 
angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become evident". He added: 
"Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi." He said she 
is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, never said *thank you* 
.He goes on and on.
 BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. 
It was a few high ranking members that denied his book, much of which he got 
was  from other agents.I would think telling all on the Clintons would not be 
good for job security. Might be difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent 
though. Repudiating those that do *tell all* would be job security.
 Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make you victorious.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   
 

 You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
 

 You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop 
infection? The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
 

 Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question,

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Kessler was the chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax, one of the most 
odious right-wing news sites, writing hit piece after hit piece about Hillary. 
Before that, he wrote hit pieces for Newsmax on Obama, including one that had a 
glaring error. Newsmax refused to make a straightforward correction, and 
Kessler tried to delete an account of the error and controversy from his 
Wikipedia bio. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Kessler?  Here's a review of this book.All kinds of errors...he sounds 
like an angry gossip make-up artist to me.  Based on your belief on her manners 
stated below, here is what he wrote on Al Gore in the book.  H 

 "About former Vice President Al Gore, he quotes a former agent named Jeff 
Crane, who says that he was "on the detail one Christmas when Gore was at home 
in Carthage. Neighbors offered us food on Christmas Day, but the Gores never 
even bothered to say 'Merry Christmas' or 'Thank you." Surely Crane said this. 
But Crane was never part of Gore's detail" 
 

 The weird inaccuracies in Ronald Kessler's new book on the Secret Service 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 
 
 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 
 The weird inaccuracies in Ronald Kessler's new book ... 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 Kessler should question the judgment of some of his own sources


 
 View on theweek.com 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
 
 No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.
 From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in public,Hillary smiles 
and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the cameras are gone, her 
angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become evident". He added: 
"Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi." He said she 
is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, never said *thank you* 
.He goes on and on.
 BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. 
It was a few high ranking members that denied his book, much of which he got 
was  from other agents.I would think telling all on the Clintons would not be 
good for job security. Might be difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent 
though. Repudiating those that do *tell all* would be job security.
 Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make you victorious.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   
 

 You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
 

 You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop 
infection? The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
 

 Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scr

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 

 Funny, that. I don't think "likable" relates to anything. While I despise 
Trump it is not his personality that is of importance. Hillary is neither 
likable or unlikable. She is simply the most qualified and someone who has 
served the country for decades. She has experience and she is really smart. She 
also, for some unknown reason, wants the job. I think she is amazingly strong 
and that is one small factor for why I will vote for her.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Kessler?  Here's a review of this book.All kinds of errors...he sounds like 
an angry gossip make-up artist to me.  Based on your belief on her manners 
stated below, here is what he wrote on Al Gore in the book.  H 

 "About former Vice President Al Gore, he quotes a former agent named Jeff 
Crane, who says that he was "on the detail one Christmas when Gore was at home 
in Carthage. Neighbors offered us food on Christmas Day, but the Gores never 
even bothered to say 'Merry Christmas' or 'Thank you." Surely Crane said this. 
But Crane was never part of Gore's detail" 
 

 The weird inaccuracies in Ronald Kessler's new book on the Secret Service 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 
 
 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 
 
 The weird inaccuracies in Ronald Kessler's new book ... 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 Kessler should question the judgment of some of his own sources
 
 
 
 View on theweek.com 
http://theweek.com/articles/444781/weird-inaccuracies-ronald-kesslers-new-book-secret-service
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
 
 No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.
 From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in public,Hillary smiles 
and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the cameras are gone, her 
angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become evident". He added: 
"Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi." He said she 
is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, never said *thank you* 
.He goes on and on.
 BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. 
It was a few high ranking members that denied his book, much of which he got 
was  from other agents.I would think telling all on the Clintons would not be 
good for job security. Might be difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent 
though. Repudiating those that do *tell all* would be job security.
 Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make you victorious.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   
 

 You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
 

 You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop 
infection? The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
 

 Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are

Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates.
No, there are at least two books out there by former SS agents. Corrupt? Why, 
because they told all? Don't forget the State Troopers that were bodyguards in 
Arkansas.From Ronald Kesslers book First Family Details: "When in 
public,Hillary smiles and acts graciously." Kessler explains, "As soon as the 
cameras are gone, her angry personality, nastiness and imperiousness become 
evident". He added: "Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma 
Gandhi." He said she is rude to SS and others, cussed Secret Service drivers, 
never said *thank you* .He goes on and on.BTW, it wasn't the *rest* of the 
Secret Service that repudiated  Gary Byrne. It was a few high ranking members 
that denied his book, much of which he got was  from other agents.I would think 
telling all on the Clintons would not be good for job security. Might be 
difficult to bump -off a Srecret Service agent though. Repudiating those that 
do *tell all* would be job security.Sorry Judy, declaring victory doesn't make 
you victorious.
  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
   
    
You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop infection? 
The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 
that’s if she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence 
and experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why 
anyone would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.
Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.
Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Right, one corrupt former agent whom the rest of the service repudiates. 

 You are really not doing so well, Mike. Your attempted comebacks are getting 
weaker and weaker.
 

 You know how psittacines regurgitate their food when they get a crop 
infection? The regurgitated material is a disgusting slimy mass.
 

 Same with parroted slime from the right wing. It's truly repulsive and a 
symptom of serious illness.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 















 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yes, the Secret Service is especially fond of looking out for her!


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
   
    That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has 
worked with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny 
and charming and exceptionally likeable.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.


  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 
that’s if she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence 
and experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why 
anyone would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.
Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.
Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
That’s not quite how I remember it.  Sure Gore’s supposed stiffness was an 
issue, but there could have been all sorts of ways to dispense with that some 
of which he had already done.  For the debates Gore chose just about the worst 
thing he could do, looking like he was cozying up to Bush and agreeing with him 
more than disagreeing, which had the net effect of making Bush look “smart” or 
at least smarter than he was.  Here’s a couple of excerpts from Michael Moore’s 
book Stupid White Men that expresses it better than I can:

Privately, I think most people in the Nader  camp thought what I thought-that 
once Gore had a chance to wipe the floor with Bush in a debate, the election 
would be over. So we figured, let's get out millions of votes for Nader to show 
the next President--Al Gore-that there's a large number of Americans who don't 
want him pushing the Democratic Party further to the right. A strong vote for 
Nader might be a way to check Gore and his promise to do things like spend more 
on the military and less on jobs.

Yeah, we were real geniuses.

Then came the debates. Ralph was shut out of them, which left America with 
three ninety-minute shows in which Gore and Bush agreed with each other more 
than they disagreed. In the second debate, the two of them said they agreed 
with each other on thirty-seven different issues. It was stunning to watch.

Gore had blown it. He had failed to unmask Bush's ignorance and stupidity. He 
had failed to set himself apart and show the nation there was a real difference 
on the ballot. He had three chances to nuke that smirking son of a Bush, and he 
couldn't do it! Message to the country: If this is how he caves with Junior, 
what will happen when he gets in a room with the Russians? Or the Canadians!

I was shocked by the implications. It was starting to look as if Gore would 
lose. He was going to lose his home state. He was going to lose Clinton's home 
state. He couldn't convince the Democratic dean of the Senate, Robert Byrd of 
West Virginia, to endorse him until five days before the election (thus 
sacrificing West Virginia, a traditional Democratic stronghold, to Bush). Any 
one of these states would have given Gore all the electoral votes he would need 
to win the White House.
And the money shot: Then Al Gore failed to win the third and final debate with 
George W. Bush. Now where I come from, the smart guy wins in a debate; the dumb 
guy loses. It really is that simple. But not this time. I couldn't believe my 
eyes. It was clear that Al Gore was doing everything he could to lose the 
election.

That was exactly my feeling too:  it looked like he wanted to lose, and I 
couldn’t quite believe what I was seeing either.  It was almost like he was in 
some sort of trance. If Hillary attempts anything like that, I believe all is 
lost.  But hopefully she won’t.  Hopefully she’ll dispense with any and all 
doubts bout whatever by being the best Democratic candidate she can be, not by 
trying to do everything she can to lose.   We’ll find out soon.

Sal 




On Sep 21, 2016, at 10:07 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
 wrote :
(snip)

There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.


Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.

Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.







Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's only in public. Just about without exception, everyone who has worked 
with her (including Republicans) says she's warm and caring and funny and 
charming and exceptionally likeable. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 


 













Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well put. 

 It may also be a good idea to remind folks that there's no official winner or 
loser in these debates! (No, you didn't suggest that, but people often talk as 
if there were.) The MSM is pretty uniformly against Trump (Faux News aside), 
and I worry that they'll lean over backward after the debate to compensate for 
their bias and be "fair" to Trump. But they ain't fond of Hillary either, so 
goodness only knows how that'll work out.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 The Bush-Gore comparison is very apt. If you read the transcripts of those 
debates, it's obvious that Gore won. Bush didn't know anything. But people 
thought Bush "won" because he came across as a regular guy. Which of course is 
ridiculous. 

I won't watch the debate live. It's a bit like an upcoming soccer match in 
which you desperately want your team to win but fear they won't. It's better 
not to watch. Trump is extremely skilled at articulating what many ordinary 
people think regarding everything from terrorism to government corruption, 
whereas Hillary is highly skilled at using carefully nuanced political language 
that can sometimes sound opaque. I suspect that like Bush, Trump will lose the 
debate by any normal standards but perhaps a sizeable number of people will 
think he won it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.










Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, independent, experienced, strong minded women are often seen as "bitches" 
by many men and even a few women. It is a double standard, perpetuated by a 
bunch of momma's boys, who call themselves 'principled' and 'tough' when 
demonstrating the same values. Time to change that tune, and let's all grow up. 
Hillary in November! What is so likable about the golf caddy for President? I 
find him exceptionally offensive and ignorant.Dumb as a post too.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.







 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread feste37
The Bush-Gore comparison is very apt. If you read the transcripts of those 
debates, it's obvious that Gore won. Bush didn't know anything. But people 
thought Bush "won" because he came across as a regular guy. Which of course is 
ridiculous. 

I won't watch the debate live. It's a bit like an upcoming soccer match in 
which you desperately want your team to win but fear they won't. It's better 
not to watch. Trump is extremely skilled at articulating what many ordinary 
people think regarding everything from terrorism to government corruption, 
whereas Hillary is highly skilled at using carefully nuanced political language 
that can sometimes sound opaque. I suspect that like Bush, Trump will lose the 
debate by any normal standards but perhaps a sizeable number of people will 
think he won it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.








Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
She has to look *likeable*, which she is not. That's like asking nurse Ratchet 
to look and act likeable.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <salsunshineiniowa@...> wrote :
(snip)There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and 
that’s if she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence 
and experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why 
anyone would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.
Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image.
Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.
 

 At this point I think all the debates are striving to do is capture the 
approval and votes of all of those independents and/or former Bernie supporters 
who are leaning towards Jill or Gary. The Hillary supporters are going to stay 
Hillary supporters and Trump supporters are going to keep enabling a sociopath 
no matter what happens at the debates. It would take some sort of miracle for 
Trump's base to abandon him. It will be very interesting to see what happens 
and how the polls are effected after the debate based on performance. That 
should give us a hint as to how important the debates are and how many 
undecideds there actually are/were out there pre-debate.








Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 (snip)
 There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.

Gore wasn't so much trying to make Bush look smarter. Gore had been brutally 
mocked for being too wonkish and was portrayed as stiff and boring, and he was 
attempting to counter that image. 

 

 Hillary actually has a similar problem. She needs to come across as human and 
charming as well as intelligent and experienced. Not fair, but that's the way 
it is.






Re: [FairfieldLife] It's Looking Good

2016-09-21 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Sep 21, 2016, at 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:


I don't know about the rest of you but I am very nervous to watch the first 
debate.

(Raising hand)  I also feel that no matter how prepared Hillary is (and she 
will be beautifully prepared), the media will find a way to let him “win.”  The 
bar is set so low, that if he even barely tries to answer the questions, he’ll 
look “presidential.”  If he doesn’t try, they’ll present him as some fun-loving 
oaf you would want to have a beer with.  Heads, Trump wins; tails, Hillary 
loses.

 While I am confident Hillary will be prepared and battle ready I know how hard 
it is to try and compete with a total and utterly annoying troll in the name of 
common sense and real dialogue. 

Robert Reich had an excellent idea:  after she’s finished laying out some 
policy proposal, turn to Trump and ask what his ideas are.  That would be at 
least one way to expose how utterly bankrupt (npi) his “ideas” are. Chances are 
pretty good he’ll go off on some ludicrous tangent that has nothing to do with 
anything.  While that may not sway his most hard-core supporters, there’s still 
plenty of swing voters out there.

I can only hope that the moderator will do his job and that Trump will simply 
come off looking like the oafish and clueless boor he is. I still may have to 
watch it after the fact, once I know Hillary has wiped the floor with him (God 
willing), but I may be able to tune it in at different moments live (for short 
spurts) out of sheer curiosity. Like watching a horror show through your 
splayed fingers. But on a bright note:
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There’s really only one way Hillary could lose this debate IMO, and that’s if 
she pulls a Gore and tried to play down her own massive intelligence and 
experience in an attempt  to make Trump look smarter than he is.   Why anyone 
would do that is of course the big question, which I’m sure still leaves 
psychologists scratching their heads about Gore and his first debate to this 
day.